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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by lastclaire4(f): 5:54pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Mimzyy: No. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chreze(m): 6:49pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
To add to the previous advice on baby things to carry. Everything was allowed except hot water in baby flask. I asked the woman why, but she didn’t give a proper reason. I was too tired to discuss n we didn’t have any hot water as I know it’s easy to get one from the airline, so I just let the matter go. Also, sometimes you might just wanna try carrying what you heart is telling you to, I don’t know if it’s the pandemic or man was just lucky, everything came in ooo. From palm oil to the other little things. POE was easy and smooth. Thanks guys for all the information here. It’s big enough to guide one. For those trying to use Monzo, I registered one and it went thru, if your issue is number, I advice you use your Nigerian number, they will send you the verification pin, later when you get your uk number you can change it. I ordered lebara sim too and will focus on other things. Thanks guys. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Jayvallia: 8:37pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Mamatukwas:Do you also ship from lagos to uk? |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Jayvallia: 8:45pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Chukwuka16: Do you have Twitter handle. seems you have plenty sense 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by erico2k2(m): 11:18pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Braket:yes ofcos they have to. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 11:21pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Hello.... I saw on here that Turkish airline is no longer accepting NHS covid test when departing from UK. Does anyone know about Qatar airline. If the NHS free test is accepted? |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by claremont(m): 11:39pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
TheGuyFromHR: Agreed. The people who say that brexit will make the UK treat a Nigerian passport holder exactly the same as a French passport holder in terms of jobs are in for a shocker. The majority of the EU workers in the UK are already 'settled' here, the UK is their home and they are not leaving their jobs for a Nigerian passport holder. I have attached photos of the Brexit draft agreement circulating on Twitter, make of it what you will. I cannot understand why an immigrant is happy that the UK is closing its borders to fellow immigrants, albeit from the EU. The way some people think sometimes fill me with despair, and these are the same people who will scream racism when a white person doesn't sit next to them on the train. 01/01/21 isn't far away, let's wait and see. 2 Likes
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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 12:22am On Dec 28, 2020 |
claremont: I think you are absolutely wrong on the bolded. The UK is NOT closing its borders to 'fellow immigrants'. If anything, the UK is OPENING its borders to Immigrants, IRRESPECTIVE if their colour, country of origin or Nationality. What fills you with despair is the way you INTERPRET what some people think. Are you sincerely telling me that you were happy with the previous arrangement where a Lithuanian National or a Latvian National (I have nothing against them), who have B- in a test will be chosen, instead of a Ghanain or an Indian or a Nigerian who has A* in that same test, simply because of their Nationality? My brother, I disagree with you in totality. 12 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 12:25am On Dec 28, 2020 |
claremont: Again, no one said they are leaving their jobs for a Nigerian Passport holder. What I (for one is saying) is that going forward, I will be treated EQUALLY. On the racism matter: Racism =Inequality Employing people based on their Nationality only = Inequality 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 12:29am On Dec 28, 2020 |
claremont: The EU was created to give preference to member state over other nationalities so what wrong with Nigerians wanting to have the same preference with a fellow Immigrant. EU immigrant and Nigerian immigrants, all na migrant . Time will tell if UK will strive now that it's out of the EU. I believe they would continue to strive and do well independently...... forget about stats or polls . Those are not always accurate And if that creates a more level playing field for my people then why not..... 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 12:33am On Dec 28, 2020 |
LagosismyHome: Bolded = Crux of the matter 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 12:37am On Dec 28, 2020 |
RalphJean: I know right .... it's ok for other EU to have access but not ok for Nigerians .... abeg o. We have enough skill set and manpower to flourish if given the opportunity...... As Buhari is sleeping, bad governance has taken over then we move . Maybe when Nigeria gets it right then we move back... lol 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 12:44am On Dec 28, 2020 |
LagosismyHome: ...At the moment, a UK employer who wants to sponsor someone for a Tier 2 (General) visa – the main type – usually has to carry out a resident labour market test (RLMT). This involves advertising the job in a special way for 28 days to see if there are any suitable settled workers available to fill the vacancy. Roughly speaking, a settled worker is a British or European Economic Area national, or someone who has indefinite leave to remain in the UK. If any suitable settled workers apply (who meet the minimum requirements of the job) then you have to offer the job to them, rather than the non-EEA national you want to sponsor, even if the person you want to sponsor is the better candidate. Biko, see the bolded. How a Nigerian would actually think that that is fair is beyond me. Unless it's a Nigerian that has not had the (mis)fortune of having an employer look them in the eye and said: "Well, based on the interviews, you performed well. Your practical skills are exactly what we needed. However, there is this guy from xyz country, that we will have to hire (instead of you) because he is from xyz while you are from F**king Nigeria". 7 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 2:28am On Dec 28, 2020 |
LagosismyHome: It's now no longer about the airlines accepting NHS covid results....... 2 requirements for airline passengers now into Nigeria - : - Negative PCR test (privately tested) FTF...... - Payment through Nigerian's online portal(certificate of payment required prior), for a test to be conducted in Nigeria........ |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 2:37am On Dec 28, 2020 |
rigvod: If 3 is bad in your area smarty will be too. Smarty rides on 3 network. Try EE or Vodafone monthly contract with a mifi |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Inkredible(m): 5:00am On Dec 28, 2020 |
500 pages deep and lots of knowledge shared. Kudos to everyone. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Adurami040517: 6:18am On Dec 28, 2020 |
Thanks for this information @justwise. I just checked them out and I am definitely going for the network justwise: |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 7:53am On Dec 28, 2020 |
LagosismyHome: Don't hold your breath on that sis, EU citizens will always get preferential treatment over Nigerians/Africans. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 8:01am On Dec 28, 2020 |
justwise: I believe if we are good and honest at what we do then time will help us change the narrative of preference....... but if we come and focus on negative things such as how to cheat the system, and many other nonsense then hey........ The ball is in our hand. Sadly there still some many bad eggs among the good eggs due to years of wrong orientation in naija. Even little thing such as student visa , I read some things our people do with agents and just smh, a lot lie when there even no reason for that 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 8:07am On Dec 28, 2020 |
Lexusgs430: Thanks .... abeg help me understand my understanding . What number one . It must be privately tested? .....what FTF |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 8:18am On Dec 28, 2020 |
LagosismyHome: A negative PCR test must be produced by all passengers, or the airlines would be charged $3500.00 per passenger (so you expect the airlines to be very strict)........ FTF - Fit To Fly........ The production of the negative PCR test + payment of covid test in Nigeria (qr code certificated). Means you have satisfied the FTF prerequisite...... NB: NHS test is no longer an acceptable document to fly....... |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Tinkybabe(f): 8:18am On Dec 28, 2020 |
I'm amazed at how people think the UK leaving the EU would be beneficial. The most important point of focus should be the economy which would be negatively impacted. The UK as we all know is a service country, not an exporting one. The strength of the UK over the years have come from investors which was heavily impacted by the free trade deal in the EU. We have all experienced a taste of this negative impact immediately after the referendum. The £££ has still not recovered (not even close) in 4 years following the result of the referendum and let's face it, this is not going to get better in the nearest future. Don't even get me started on the effect of all these on wages, taxes, NI and inflation. Why did we all relocate to the UK? for the opportunities, the economy etc. Would the UK still be an attractive spot for immigrants when there are no juice to extract? Though I'm for equal opportunities for everyone, the opportunities would only abound when there's something the country has to offer. Well, time will tell. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 8:24am On Dec 28, 2020 |
justwise: This statement is CATEGORICALLY untrue. There is ABSOLUTELY no evidence to back it up. The Only 'evidence' is that it was happening by virtue of the UK being a member of the EU. I can prove that I had previously been denied a job (which I was more than qualified for) because I hold a Nigerian Passport. What no one can prove is that EU citizens will ALWAYS get preferential treatment post-Brexit. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 8:57am On Dec 28, 2020 |
justwise: See reasoning If you really believe that, then you’re certainly suffering from inferiority complex of the first degree. Do you also believe that EU citizens are and will always be better than you, simply because of your ethnic background? Abeg, take your self-defeatening outlook outta here! 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 8:58am On Dec 28, 2020 |
RalphJean: Bless you! 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chukwuka16: 9:53am On Dec 28, 2020 |
With regards to the benefits of the UK leaving the EU, there is only one side that matters – the business side. I’m both an employee and a business person and I can say with all confidence that EMPLOYEES DON’T MATTER. Labour unfortunately has never been more readily available and cheaper. When the UK brought up the new PBS of immigration for immigrants, they introduced 2 new things that should signal to any person what is going to be the norm. First, they removed the resident labour market test (RLMT) and secondly, they reduced the salary threshold (remember this was what sent many immigrants home after 2015 when it was jacked up to 30K and employers couldn’t afford it). The new PBS system has signified that cheap labour will be the norm from next year. Imagine a PhD holder on £23K on Tier 2 from next year (people go suffer gan). Imagine how businesses will skew job titles just to fit with SoC titles so that they can offer very low and ridiculous salaries. Also remember that talent is now in excess supply and employers with Tier 2/5 sponsor licences can hire anyone from anywhere without justifying WHY. The UK by design has a unique place in history and has worked hard to establish major institutions that anyone would want to be affiliated with. More so, they colonised a lot of countries and by default will enjoy patronage from them (inferiority complex). Their yearly spending on overseas aid (ODA) of ~£10 billion for 2021 is still a significant war chest. Unfortunately, the EU cannot experiment with low wages like the UK and that was why state aid was a major divergent point during discussions on the deal. There is fear within the EU that the UK will deploy and indirectly subsidise its businesses to get unfair advantages over their competitors within the EU – think US/Boeing and EU/Airbus wahala. Unfortunately, employees will suffer more from this deal. The idea of skills (professionalisation) and job security has just been lost. When your lawmakers can freeze pay for public servants and still receive salary increment without shame, you begin to get the picture of how relevant employees are. Remember all the Thursday clapping for NHS workers and what it has resulted in monetarily – nothing for them. If your income is Employer – HMRC – Employee route, well, prepare to experience an increase in PIT to pay back the loans and government spending on BUSINESSES. This life seriously is not balance. Also for the contractors, IR35 is just smiling at you very broadly. Welcome to the new UK. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 10:27am On Dec 28, 2020 |
Chukwuka16: You just may have inadvertently made a case for a benefit of Brexit for non-EU immigrants. All you mentioned above only lend credence to the thinking that EU citizens will leave the UK for other EU countries (27 of them), when the UK becomes unattractive to them, due to the reasons you stated in your post. They are spoilt with choice (27 other countries, some better than the UK), why would they stay in a country where you’ve boldly claimed EMPLOYEES DON’T MATTER? That was exactly what I alluded to in my earlier posts, and would open doors for other non-EU immigrants (Nigerians inclusive) who wouldn’t mind the ridiculous wages on offer, just to get a foot through the door and work their way up. For the umpteenth time, I believe Brexit will open doors of opportunities to immigrants from outside the EU. However, the overall health of the UK economy is another matter entirely, and only time would tell if Brexit is a blessing or a curse. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by TrumpsWall: 10:52am On Dec 28, 2020 |
You were denied simply because they didn't want you. Based on my experience, companies can go through the length of hiring anyone they feel is most suited for a role despite RLMT. How can you even tell you were more than qualified than the other candidates when you never saw their resume? RalphJean: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Chukwuka16: 10:55am On Dec 28, 2020 |
icon8: Three years ago, heck, infact early this year, I would have agreed with you that indeed the UK leaving the EU was going to be beneficial to employees and non-EU citizens. Today I know better. When the UK resided within the EU, they needed to maintain a minimum standard of workers’ right and we had the European Court of Arbitration to arbitrate on issues relating to workers’ rights etc. That was a way through which workers in the UK could leverage equivalence among EU member states as an argument for improved wages. You saw a lot of such comparisons across UBI, wages, hours worked, job precarity etc. EU member states provided a basis for comparison. In fact, BoJo used to compare deaths in the UK with Italy, France and Spain and only stopped when the UK started blazing the trail. With the introduction of the PBS, what we have is exploitation. We had it prior to Jan 1, 2021, but it’s going to be more pronounced going forward. Economics tells us that when supply exceeds demand, price will fall. That is what is going to happen from Jan 1, 2021. It isn’t just about uniform access but quality of wages. Getting a job isn’t going to be the crux of the matter but remuneration and job security. There will be a lot of precarious jobs and different kinds of contracts to ensure that employers can extract maximum utility from them. The existing and about to be extinguished system of job recruitment made it a lot easier for job holders here in the UK to move around (despite the travails a Tier 2 visa causes). You’ve got to look at this holistically to see the overall big picture. This is a return to pure capitalism in its entirety. With the EU, we had a mix of capitalism and socialism. With this, we are back to an economic system that favours only the employers. Think of how much has been spent by the government and on whom – businesses. What have employees gotten aside furlough (reduced wages in some instances)? Businesses have gotten BBLS, CBILS, CLBILS, Future Funds, Grants, Contracts, etc. I’m only concerned that years from now, folks don’t look back regretting what they thought was going to be a golden opportunity which only ended up causing them a lifetime of regrets/frustrations. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 10:57am On Dec 28, 2020 |
claremont: Preach brother. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by TheGuyFromHR: 11:06am On Dec 28, 2020 |
icon8: EU migrants have always been spoilt for choice, yet they voted massively for the UK with their feet. A lot of what brought EU citizens to the UK (eastern Europeans aside) was more intangibles such as learning English, the global language, thus giving they (and their children) a route into competing in the world economy, and living in major cities like London, which is arguably the most favourable place in Europe to be if you've got aspirations to boost your employment prospects overall. EU citizens could and can get a better deal in terms of wages, living conditions and social security in either Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Belgium or the Netherlands, just to name a few. Yet the UK despite its low benefits, comparatively lower wages and precarious but flexible employment market and social protections, was still number 2 just behind Germany for the number of active EU migrants it hosted ("active" excludes the mainly retirees who flock to places like Spain, Italy, parts of France for better weather, second homes, etc.). These people are not going away soon. Having come, despite everything, few of them are going back. They've gotten either settled or pre-settled status and they're going to remain here, for the very reasons that brought them here in the first place. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 11:12am On Dec 28, 2020 |
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uks-points-based-immigration-system-policy-statement/the-uks-points-based-immigration-system-policy-statement This may be useful to someone on the timeline (or their network back home). |
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