Racoon:

I have all Max Siollun three books and cherish them a lot because they gave clear succinct dirty histroy of all these past military leaders Nigerians are venerating today as gods especially the role the sitting president played in the July 28-29 1966 northern counter-coup killings @ Ikeja Barracks.I have a copy of the "76" movie.I even watch clips yster night.

Sir, do you have e-copies? Please, can I get them from you if you do have them?

francotunsco:
...and this thread later became an intelligent discourse!
I am very proud of Nairaland this morning. Fellows are making intelligent reference to a book read and a movie!
2021 gbosa for everyone.

Exactly
No insult or ethnic bashing

nku5:


Thanks for the objectivity sir. I appreciate it

The pleasure is all mine, my brother.

Thanks for the correction man.

That was a human factor and I think the memory is not that easy to keep intact since then up til date.

Jeffyblaq:

Well said... But will correct yuh here..

Buhari and idiagbon regime lasted from 1983-1985 as a result from a coup led by IBB.. Itz not 6 months as you said..

IBB Ruled for 8 years.. 85 - 93 b4 handing a transition power to Earnest Shonekan in 1993. After the annulment of the presidential election arguably won by MKO Abiola.

Copy dat!

Alpha100:
I have both of Max Siollun's books if anyone is interested.

Please, I need it!
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Murtala Mohammed was the target of the Fulani/ Kanuri flank and Sokoto caliphate. He was considered an unbiased umpire in then coming 1979 elections and a stumbling block to Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri rigging plans against Awolowo and Awo's monumental public policy campaigns and civil resistance routes and stamina which Obasanjo stifle.... USA has a hand in the coup too with plan to thwart M/Mohammed for not honouring IV to Washington. The coup had 3 plots wt OBJ in one... And OBJ was to be played out at last...until Akinrinade Alani& Alabi-Isama thwarted it... And more.

Murtala Mohammed was the target of the Fulani/ Kanuri flank and Sokoto caliphate. He was considered an unbiased umpire in then coming 1979 elections and a stumbling block to Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri rigging plans against Awolowo and. Awo's monumental public policy campaigns and civil resistance routes and stamina which Obasanjo stifle.... USA has a hand in the coup too with plan to thwart M/Mohammed for not honouring IV to Washington. The coup had 3 plots wt OBJ in one... And OBJ was to be played out at last...until Akinrinade Alani& Alabi-Isama thwarted it... And more.

It’s so interesting reading how our friends from the east are blaming everybody other than theirs. To start with, was the first coup necessary? There was absolutely no justification for the first coup. The way and manner Ifeajuna and his co-plotters went about the coup in a very bloody and clannish manner made it more despicable. The January 15, 1966 coup ruined the camaraderie in the military and ruined the fragile unity among our political elites till today. Every event that happened thereafter was a chain reaction to the bloody Ifeajuna coup.

Let’s even assume Ifeajuna and co were young and blinded by ambition, what came over an old conservative soldier like Ironsi that he had to force the senate to handover power to him? Was that the only option available to him at that point? Dipcharima had already been selected has acting prime minister, all he needed was the support of the military to help stabilize the government and the country but no, Ironsi with the backing of the Igbo senate president forcefully took over power. Sadly, he wasn’t knowledgeable enough to manage a diverse country like Nigeria. He became overwhelmed and started listening to only Igbo advisers. The pogrom and the July counter coup was the result of his poor leadership.


TY Danjuma faced the same dilemma that Ironsi faced but he appreciated the situation better and handled it differently. If Danjuma had taken over the government after the Dimka coup like Ironsi did after Ifeajuna’s coup, he would have ended up like Ironsi. He was smart enough to support Obasanjo who was the next in line. He even refused to accept the position of CGS and instead promoted Yar’adua who was very junior to him to the position. That is how to navigate the murky waters of Nigeria’s military and ethnic politics.

The world did not start today. A lot has happened in the past, even before we came. So don't assume he's just telling stories.

Karemarealty288:
Obj and story telling ....

You are equally correct sir. He made sure that they executed dimka and all the people involved in upstaging muritala Mohammed.

The bitter truth is that obasanjo is the most strategic and intelligent military officer during that time for him to have unslaught several underground coup moves.

He is one of those people that is very good in uniting this country. Even tinubu too has that quality of uniting people together apart from his corrupt lifestyle if you notice him very well even dough all might be for a selfish ambition but atleast we can still see it.
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You are correct about Obasanjo.
Many Nigerians dont know the key roles Obasanjo had played in unifying the Country at the brink of collapse.
He was brought in the save the Nation from eminent Military bloodbath and Collapse of the country following the Murtala Mohammed death. He was also brought in to douse the tension following tension and compensate the South after Abiola death and Sani Abacha saga.
Hate him or Like him, but i think Obasanjo is one of the most brilliant military strategist in Nigeria. He knows the Military more than any Retired Military Officer living.
If not for his strategic Military insights, Obasanjo wouldnt have survived as Head of State following the Murtala Mohammed coup. There were known coupists who had vowed that the coups and the bloodbaths will continue. Obasanjo would likely not have survived his First tenure as President as there were some elements in the Military who did not agree that power should go to the south as at then.
Both Obasanjo survived both.
When he became Head of State, he first of all executed all the Coup plotters of the Murtala coup. It was the very first time coup plotters were executed in Nigeria. It served as a deterent to many that were planning coups. Obasanjo also quickly dismantled the Military structured and retired some officers, and posted many other officers out of their domain were they had become too powerful. These neutralised many officers who had become too powerful and able to incite others.
As Civilian President, Obasanjo survived his tenure because of how he quickly deployed same strategy he used to survived as Head of state. Obasanjo as Civilian President dismantled Mililtary hierachy and retired many senior officers. One of the most strategic decision he took then was to re-distribute Military Armoury to the South. During Abacha tenure as Head of State, Abacha had relocated most of the Military Armoury to the North ( Kaduna and Kano) and the South was almost without effective armoury. Obasanjo quickly redistribute these Armory back to the south and brought about a balance in the distribution. These weakened perceived opposition in the Military.[/quote]

owobokiri:
Somebody help me; Why is Dimkas coup not defined by Dimkas ethnicity? I mean it was stated clearly that the main reason that led Dimka to unleash that coup was to get rid of core northerners that upstaged Gowon, a fellow middle belter! This led to the killings of Murtala Mohammed and Ibrahim Taiwo, including the attempted elimination of officers that helped Murtalas ascedence to power, most of them northerners! Gowons name was so glaringly written all over the coup that the federal government sought for his repatriation to Nigeria for trial.

He will later be left in the UK to rot while Ojukwu whom he fought against during the war, was pardoned to come back to Nigeria! My questions are; who and who here even know Dimkas ethnic group? Why was the ethnic/regional/sectional motivations behind Dimkas military interjection always downplayed by the media, the government and even the military while Nzeogwus military uprising is conveniently used as an excuse to propel an unending devilish policy of containment against the good people of the former eastern Nigeria!?

Your prejudice will not allow you to seek the truth!
Were T Y Danjuma and Joe Garba working for the " core north" as you call it?
Or was Bissala from the middle belt and who told you Murtala was a core northerner?

kraftysprouts:


Where can i see it?

You can search and read these books online on : https://books.google.com.ng/books

Racoon:

I have all Max Siollun three books and cherish them a lot because they gave clear succinct dirty histroy of all these past military leaders Nigerians are venerating today as gods especially the role the sitting president played in the July 28-29 1966 northern counter-coup killings @ Ikeja Barracks.I have a copy of the "76" movie.I even watch clips yster night.

Interesting, care to share PDF copy of Max Siollun books you have with me?

thatigboman:
so was the person Ramsey Noah acted as?

Oh no, Obasanjo was 2nd in command to the head of state as at that time. He was already a general by then. The person Ramsey acted as was an captain

Brooklynsouth:
can yiu prove this , is there evidence or just street talks

Not street talks, it is recorded in various investigative writings of what happened then. And I also had the opportunity of meeting an active participant in the whole thing who gave me his account (particularly the barracks teasing parts)

humilitypays:
stop fabricating lies to suit your hatred and narrative. What nonsense lies are you talking about.


Igbos were also mocking Northerners in 1943 northern massacre of Igbos.


Igbos were also mocking Northerners in 2011 election saga where Buhari lost to Goodluck and Igbo, Yoruba and Southerners in the North got massacred out of their hatred for Igbos too.

Don't worry, it will get to you, we will give reasons why you were killed in cold blood, continue spreading lies told by enemies of innocent people killed in cold blood, continue okay

What I wrote is true. As a matter of fact it is still happening now. I don't hate any tribe

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ibietela2:


OBJ and Nzeogwu were friends o but he cast him aside

then, you should asked why Lt. Col. Fajuyi was killed alongside with Gen. Ironsi in ibadan

Alpha100:
I have both of Max Siollun's books if anyone is interested.

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sirabbey:
Interesting, care to share PDF copy of Max Siollun books you have with me?

Sorry sir-I only have hard copies.PDF copies are available on Amazons, Ebay.

BafanaBafana:

You might be right to an extent. But you should know how the typical Igbo man likes to insult other tribes.
After the coup, igbos printed posters depicting how Nzeogwu was standing over Ahmadu Bello, they released a song titled machine gun talking about how automatic rifles were used to finish off northerners, Igbo traders made jest of their Hausa colleagues in the markets in the north, wives of soldiers made it an issue in the barracks, and then it was a practice of Igbo soldiers to duck behind their desks demonstrating to northern soldiers "na so una premier hide for inside him wife when dem go to kill am.
All these plus what Ironsi was doing or not doing up there led to the unfortunate killings

I am an Igbo man and i dont go about insulting people based on tribe
wen i see an idiot i address the person directly without care of his/her tribe bcus i am sensible enough to know that people are what they are and its got nothing to do with tribe
all those stuffs you outlined there are just hearsay

judge people by their characters and substances stereotyping is a very messed up ideology

BafanaBafana:

Not street talks, it is recorded in various investigative writings of what happened then. And I also had the opportunity of meeting an active participant in the whole thing who gave me his account (particularly the barracks teasing parts)

continue with your tales of deciet , an investigative writings by who ? Someday the truth will be out and the tables turned

BafanaBafana:

You might be right to an extent. But you should know how the typical Igbo man likes to insult other tribes.
After the coup, igbos printed posters depicting how Nzeogwu was standing over Ahmadu Bello, they released a song titled machine gun talking about how automatic rifles were used to finish off northerners, Igbo traders made jest of their Hausa colleagues in the markets in the north, wives of soldiers made it an issue in the barracks, and then it was a practice of Igbo soldiers to duck behind their desks demonstrating to northern soldiers "na so una premier hide for inside him wife when dem go to kill am.
All these plus what Ironsi was doing or not doing up there led to the unfortunate killings

I am an Igbo man and i dont go about insulting people based on tribe
wen i see an idiot i address the person directly without care of his/her tribe bcus i am sensible enough to know that people are what they are and its got nothing to do with tribe
all those stuffs you outlined there are just hearsay

judge people by their characters and substances stereotyping is a very messed up ideology
the igbos were hand picked bcus there was already bad blood between them and the north then my grand dad was born before the Union of Nigeria started
and was of the opinion that Lord Lugard did a poor job in evaluating how well we can manage and cope with each other before joining people of diff culture together
Our problem will start to reduce immensely if we all hold unto this mindset

Before we are Igbo,Hausa or Yoruba We are all humans humanity first before anything else

kettykin:
As usual, very gullible Nigerians will believe this.
How can a phone call on 13th Friday cause a deputy head of state to go late to work over child naming. What do these take the rest of Nigerians for

Did you read the article?

Alpha100:
I have both of Max Siollun's books if anyone is interested.

I'm sir

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Alpha100:
I have both of Max Siollun's books if anyone is interested.

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