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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 3:03pm On Dec 28, 2020
eph12:

Lol you actually think Ole will give these guys playing time? In which competition?
The fixture schedule is crazy so I am sure they will get first team playing time this season. Maybe not all of them though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 3:11pm On Dec 28, 2020
Leyqute:


Greenwood would’ve had that RW on lockdown by now if he hasn’t foked up. Mata has been chopping bench since. Lingard nko?

I think there’s something Martial has been offering that no one else in the team can. He kinda links up the midfield wirh attack. He’s playing like a 10 these days. Had a flurry of assists. It’s weird.
Ole has successfully frozen most of the serial underperformers out of the team. That is one very good thing he has done that is deliberately ignored by most people.

Greenwood is a kid so I am not going to blame him too much. I just hope he picks form again and starts firing on all cylinders. I know he will surely come good.

Martial’s hold up/link up play is the best amongst our young forwards. Only Cavani has better holdup play and movement than him and Cavani cannot start every match.

Honestly the only fault I see in Martial now is his finishing. Once he finds his scoring boots, he will be appreciated more.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:33pm On Dec 28, 2020
CapitalCee:



He played in copa Libertodores and for the National team against teams like Argentina and Uruguay. I dont rhink Copa Libertodores is back water, there best teams there can actually reach the later stages of the champions league here

How many games has he played for the national team? There is not enough tape on the guy to get excited IMO. If other people want to get excited it's their right. I will see him when he gets here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:38pm On Dec 28, 2020
CapitalCee:


Shaw is actually better than what we all thought he is. The guy is a competent LB only few LBs are his upgrade.

Shaw is lazy as phuck and has no inner drive. That is the problem with him and not lack of talent.

Defensively he is our most complete defender but whenever he has no competition his level drops so that he plays just well enough to keep his shirt.

Offensively he has the ability to cross the ball as evidenced by his taking decent corner kicks recently. However he prefers to do the easier thing which is passing the ball to his teammate instead of taking the full back on and whipping in a dangerous cross.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 3:44pm On Dec 28, 2020
afrodoc2:


Shaw is lazy as phuck and has no inner drive. That is the problem with him and not lack of talent.

Defensively he is our most complete defender but whenever he has no competition his level drops so that he plays just well enough to keep his shirt.

Offensively he has the ability to cross the ball as evidenced by his taking decent corner kicks recently. However he prefers to do the easier thing which is passing the ball to his teammate instead of taking the full back on and whipping in a dangerous cross.

All these things Shaw has been doing recently, playing like a proper full back since Telles arrived, I want to also agree that he's always had that attribute, because you just don't magically wake up with them overnight.

Maybe Man United have been doing themselves a great disservice all these years by not getting him a competition in that LB. Good thing Ole saw that and pushed for the signing of a worthy competition
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:47pm On Dec 28, 2020
SyIvalord:
Facundo Pellistri, Ethan Laird, Anthony Elanga, Shola Shoretire and Will Fish are all training with the first team. Is their time near?

This Shoretire sha. I still think they are rushing the boy too much. He is 16 and even though his recent growth spurt has saved him form Angel Gomes predicament he is still relatively small. They should keep him (and Mejbri) from the first team until next season.

Fish has been outperforming Mengi lately so i am not really surprised that they want him to train with the first team. I think he too needs to wait until next season though.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:51pm On Dec 28, 2020
timay:


All these things Shaw has been doing recently, playing like a proper full back since Telles arrived, I want to also agree that he's always had that attribute, because you just don't magically wake up with them overnight.

Maybe Man United have been doing themselves a great disservice all these years by not getting him a competition in that LB. Good thing Ole saw that and pushed for the signing of a worthy competition

Footballers are like the rest of us in that we all have different levels of drive. Eating right, sleeping right, putting in extra training. Things that are second nature to a player like CR7 may seem like unnecessary punishment for players like Shaw, Rooney, Cassano.

If we sell Telles tomorrow and don't get a good replacement Shaw's form will drop again to a level just adequate to keep his shirt. The fat boy has no shame.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:53pm On Dec 28, 2020
patrickmuf:
To play him where? We already have Shaw and Telles and I don't think he is quite as good as a CB

Also, I think he prefers to play in midfield rather than CB or LB...

Cc: Rumdeuter

Alaba has complained for many years that he doesn't want to play LB he wants to play in Midfield but for Austria where he plays midfield he is not very good there

He was disappointed that Kimmich who came into the team after him was given the midfield role

I like Alaba but not as a midfielder and his plays as an LCB is suspect defensively though very good in build up play and passes from the back

His LB position is now threatened by Davies
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:54pm On Dec 28, 2020
Botfuss:


I was thinking CB. But then,he would do well in that our midfield.

In place of who
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:58pm On Dec 28, 2020
raumdeuter:


Alaba has complained flor many years that he doesnt want to play LB he wants to play in Midfield but for Austria where he plays midfield he is not very good there

He was disappointed that Kimmich who came into the team after him was given the midfield role

I like Alaba but not as a midfielder and his plays as an LCB is suspect defensively though very good in build up play and passes from the back

His LB position is now threatened by Davies
Thank you. I don't like what I have seen from him in midfield and as a LCB, you're so right with what you wrote...That leaves him as a LB where I wouldn't want United spending money on again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 4:13pm On Dec 28, 2020
patrickmuf:
Thank you. I don't like what I have seen from him in midfield and as a LCB, you're so right with what you wrote...That leaves him as a LB where I wouldn't want United spending money on again.

Don't disturb yourself, Man utd is not signing him or anyone in the January transfer window. Mr Woodward don drop the hint about it before. Na defender they want to sign in the Summer.

Also to be fair, we have enough of CB in the team already and before anyone is brought in, some of those deadwoods like Rojo and Jones will be sold , which might not happen till next summer.
The club na business, and na the wage bill of those deadwoods that they will use in balancing their books when they make new signing.

Except we magically offload those two guys against all odds in the January TW, then January might be possible for signing new CB
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Botfuss: 4:21pm On Dec 28, 2020
raumdeuter:


In place of who

Lindelof? Fred?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Botfuss: 4:23pm On Dec 28, 2020
MRTA7:


I am suspicious about him. Bayern are not mugs. They wouldn't let him go at 28 if they dont see an issue. Also he's got very high mileage even at 28. Usually if its too good to be true it is. Something is not right. See Thiago's injury struggles.

You have a point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 4:31pm On Dec 28, 2020
Kelechi Ihenacho na dustbin... baba just dey miss chances
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:37pm On Dec 28, 2020
MRTA7:


I am suspicious about him. Bayern are not mugs. They wouldn't let him go at 28 if they dont see an issue. Also he's got very high mileage even at 28. Usually if its too good to be true it is. Something is not right. See Thiago's injury struggles.

Thiago was a known sicknote who played one very good season and everyone jumped on him
Alaba is a good guy, he doesnt get injured a lot though he has a lot of mileage, he has been playing regularly for almost a decade without any major injury.

His main problem was his agent who wanted more money and him not wanting to play LB

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:55pm On Dec 28, 2020
Leyqute:


If you impress and prove that you can be depended upon, he’ll ease you into the starting XI.
Who has proven himself this season more between Cavani and Martial? Not to talk about some youngsters. I trust Ole to try to protect them as much as he can. The only way they're staying in the team is if they deliver a very compelling first impression
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:57pm On Dec 28, 2020
SyIvalord:
The fixture schedule is crazy so I am sure they will get first team playing time this season. Maybe not all of them though.
There are many senior players that will play first before those youngsters get more than a handful of first team opportunities
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 5:59pm On Dec 28, 2020
eph12:

There are many senior players that will play first before those youngsters get more than a handful of first team opportunities

Exactly.

It's the same reason Ole dropped a better RB in Williams in the absence of Wan Bissaka just to be playing Fosu Mensah and Tuanzebe at RB ahead of Williams, just because of seniority.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 6:11pm On Dec 28, 2020
Must win tomorrow. Make dem no come house if dem no win o.
Make they just sleep for stadium

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by WingedBack(m): 6:20pm On Dec 28, 2020
I am tired of Anthony martial can we sell him.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:27pm On Dec 28, 2020
When I talked about Shaw then, I knew what I was saying.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:31pm On Dec 28, 2020
timay:


Exactly.

It's the same reason Ole dropped a better RB in Williams in the absence of Wan Bissaka just to be playing Fosu Mensah and Tuanzebe at RB ahead of Williams, just because of seniority.

Last season, even when Lingard and Perreira were dropping disaster class, Angel and Chong were never considered like that. Any youth player stepping up will have to make a very good first impression
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:52pm On Dec 28, 2020
eph12:

Who has proven himself this season more between Cavani and Martial? Not to talk about some youngsters. I trust Ole to try to protect them as much as he can. The only way they're staying in the team is if they deliver a very compelling first impression

Agreed. Cavani can’t be a starter because of his injuries. So, Martial. No kid has impressed enough to start at CF.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:53pm On Dec 28, 2020
timay:


Exactly.

It's the same reason Ole dropped a better RB in Williams in the absence of Wan Bissaka just to be playing Fosu Mensah and Tuanzebe at RB ahead of Williams, just because of seniority.


Brandon Williams didn’t play well in his last couple of appearances. It’s possible he’s dropped down the pecking order.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:55pm On Dec 28, 2020
eph12:

Last season, even when Lingard and Perreira were dropping disaster class, Angel and Chong were never considered like that. Any youth player stepping up will have to make a very good first impression

I don’t think those kids have the strength to play in the PL yet. Brandon Williams who did got the nod and was a starter. Then his game went to shit and he’s been frozen out again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 7:34pm On Dec 28, 2020
eph12:

There are many senior players that will play first before those youngsters get more than a handful of first team opportunities
That’s if those senior players show that they deserve to play. Some of those kids will play before someone like Rojo plays
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 7:46pm On Dec 28, 2020
SyIvalord:
Ole has successfully frozen most of the serial underperformers out of the team. That is one very good thing he has done that is deliberately ignored by most people.

Greenwood is a kid so I am not going to blame him too much. I just hope he picks form again and starts firing on all cylinders. I know he will surely come good.

Martial’s hold up/link up play is the best amongst our young forwards. Only Cavani has better holdup play and movement than him and Cavani cannot start every match.

Honestly the only fault I see in Martial now is his finishing. Once he finds his scoring boots, he will be appreciated more.
Are you serious? I disagree sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 7:51pm On Dec 28, 2020
timay:


Exactly.

It's the same reason Ole dropped a better RB in Williams in the absence of Wan Bissaka just to be playing Fosu Mensah and Tuanzebe at RB ahead of Williams, just because of seniority.

Do you see them in training almost daily like the coach? Why are you assuming that it is seniority that makes Ole play Tuanzebe at right back rather than Williams. What is that assumption based on?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 7:52pm On Dec 28, 2020
Leyqute:


I don’t think those kids have the strength to play in the PL yet. Brandon Williams who did got the nod and was a starter. Then his game went to shit and he’s been frozen out again.
Ole has ditch DNA, i think pressure has forced him to get small sense. I still prefer Brandon Williams on the right as AWB's deputy sha, Greenwood should sort himself out quick and return to his best. We have a very good squad of player to challenge for the title and even win it this season, the manager and players just need to believe in themselves.....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 7:52pm On Dec 28, 2020
melodyogonna:

Are you serious? I disagree sha
Disagree with what? That Cavani has better holdup play than Martial?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 8:04pm On Dec 28, 2020
SyIvalord:
Disagree with what? That Cavani has better holdup play than Martial?
Yup. Cavani is better than Martial in a lot of things but not that
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 8:08pm On Dec 28, 2020
Ighalo is best at hold up play.

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