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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 1:32pm On Dec 31, 2020
We all forget the Istanbul and lipzig collapse so soon grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:44pm On Dec 31, 2020
Patrickmufc I was banned by the anti spam bot yesterday so I couldn’t continue the discussion.

And Afrodoc is wrong when he said I am trying to prevent myself from being disappointed by Amaka.

I know this team and their coach. I know they are good (both of them) but they aren’t the finished product. Yet.

Like how OGS singlehandedly sent us out of the UCL. 2 games, 1 point required but he managed to lose both games by doing braggadocio. His approach for both games were wrong and although some players should’ve done better, the fault is majorly his.

The players sef get their own. Rashford , despite scoring goals here and there still makes an awful lot of bad decisions. Martial is ...Martial. Greenwood is misfiring and Cavani is not the young vibrant killer that we know. Even Fred sef get him many faults wirh his bebeto behavior. VDB get him own one-way football. And a should I talk about Magwaya and AWB? Dan James? OluwaPogba? grin Etc etc. Bruno is the only one I can absolve atm and he sef Dey always Dey hasty to pass the ball to someone running into a wall sometimes.

That Sevilla game, OGS didn’t do many things wrong. The attackers fvcked that one up.

I Dey always yab each player here when they fvck up on Matchdays. And I don’t spare OGS sef. He can be incompetent and annoying at times.

It seems most fans forget the bad times during the good times, and the good times during a bad patch. So they demand for more or that someone be sacked. Me sef don do am, not gonna lie.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:44pm On Dec 31, 2020
About the title race thingy. I’m not saying United can’t win it or can’t mount a challenge, I’m just saying that development is more important than that at the moment. We should focus more on finding more ways to score and winning matches (even when we are not playing well) without looking at other teams.

Our attackers need to be more clinical. There will be matches where we’ll get one or 2 chances and if Maetial and Rashford don’t score them, na draw soup be that.

I’m sure Rashford, in the Wolves game, was just waiting for that one more chance to hit the target. And he did it. Luckily for him it went in. Bruno probably knew this, that’s why he sent that pass to him without hesitation.

That’s an improvement from before.

Amaka himself and his subordinates need to chop sense. No stupid taktiks again. Better rotation and managing of the squad. Healthy competition and inspiration too.

Now, if this gives us the trophy that’s fine. If it doesn’t, it’s also fine. But at least next season we have to be among the contenders- even if Liverpool and City are strong and have a healthy squad . We’ll just need one or two additions to the team.

We have outperformed everybody this year apart from Liverpool, which is a good sign. But I’m not deceived or carried away. I know Amaka and I know his players. They can still disappoint. They are improving but disappointment still fit happen.

I just want an 80+ points season and a title challenge at least next season. Ole may be the person to make us be contenders but it’s unlikely he’ll be the one to make us serial champions. Waiting on that one sha.

The league was won with 90+ points in the last 2 seasons (doesn’t mean it will be won wirh 90 points this season). Liverpool, although they dropped points in the last few games, can still go on a long winning run. They did it last season and the season before that. They’ve done it before. It won’t be outrageous to say they can do it again. We cannot say that about our team and coach. We are inconsistent. We have to take it one game at a time.

This is not to say that we cannot win the league this season or at least be a contender. I’m just not that sold on this team and club at the moment. You can have a different opinion and that’s fine.

Plus it’s still freaking early. We’re potentially level on points with the league toppers after 17 games and all these talks don start.

Like Rashford and Ole said weeks ago, let’s see how we are later on and we’ll see where we stand.

But this shouldn’t stop you, capitalcee and others from dreaming. We seem to be on the way back to the top and it feels good. If we don’t get there this season we have to get there next season.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:45pm On Dec 31, 2020
Mrviktor:
We all forget the Istanbul and lipzig collapse so soon grin
Cup competition...Of course we will drop points at some point just as our rivals will also drop points...The key word is consistency over a stretch...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dammywapes(m): 1:48pm On Dec 31, 2020
U still dey live in the past? Tho am not in love with ole ball.
Mrviktor:
We all forget the Istanbul and lipzig collapse so soon grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:52pm On Dec 31, 2020
Leyqute:
Patrickmufc I was banned by the anti spam bot yesterday so I couldn’t continue the discussion.

And Afrodoc is wrong when he said I am trying to prevent myself from being disappointed by Amaka.

I know this team and their coach. I know they are good (both of them) but they aren’t the finished product. Yet.

Like how OGS singlehandedly sent us out of the UCL. 2 games, 1 point required but he managed to lose both games by doing braggadocio. His approach for both games were wrong and although some players should’ve done better, the fault is majorly his.

The players sef get their own. Rashford , despite scoring goals here and there still makes an awful lot of bad decisions. Martial is ...Martial. Greenwood is misfiring and Cavani is not the young vibrant killer that we know. Even Fred sef get him many faults wirh his bebeto behavior. VDB get him own one-way football. And a should I talk about Magwaya and AWB? Dan James? OluwaPogba? grin Etc etc. Bruno is the only one I can absolve atm and he sef Dey always Dey hasty to pass the ball to someone running into a wall sometimes.

That Sevilla game, OGS didn’t do many things wrong. The attackers fvcked that one up.

I Dey always yab each player here when they fvck up on Matchdays. And I don’t spare OGS sef. He can be incompetent and annoying at times.

It seems most fans forget the bad times during the good times, and the good times during a bad patch. So they demand for more or that someone be sacked. Me sef don do am, not gonna lie.

I thought as much...

I know we have our faults but our renewed believe has more to do with our struggling rivals. Since it's a general consensus that this team needs a trophy to kick on, I rather we take advantage of this window presented by the poor form of our rivals...

Hopefully Amad and Facundo comes through in January and we kick on...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:58pm On Dec 31, 2020
Mrviktor:
We all forget the Istanbul and lipzig collapse so soon grin

Yup. The Crystal Palace loss sef Dey there.

Cautious optimism is what I have. There has been an improvement from those games but I no dey carried away.

Teams experience problems during the course of a season - fatigue, injuries, lack of motivation , infighting, change in tactics, etc rhat can make them drop points. How those problems are managed determines if they will be their undoing.

Lampard started the season brightly. He’s having problems now. We had problems at the beginning of the season, we’re doing better now. Even Liverpool sef , have had problems during the course of the season.

80 points at least. Else, we never see anything.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:00pm On Dec 31, 2020
Leyqute:
About the title race thingy. I’m not saying United can’t win it or can’t mount a challenge, I’m just saying that development is more important than that at the moment. We should focus more on finding more ways to score and winning matches (even when we are not playing well) without looking at other teams.

Our attackers need to be more clinical. There will be matches where we’ll get one or 2 chances and if Maetial and Rashford don’t score them, na draw soup be that.

I’m sure Rashford, in the Wolves game, was just waiting for that one more chance to hit the target. And he did it. Luckily for him it went in. Bruno probably knew this, that’s why he sent that pass to him without hesitation.

That’s an improvement from before.

Amaka himself and his subordinates need to chop sense. No stupid taktiks again. Better rotation and managing of the squad. Healthy competition and inspiration too.

Now, if this gives us the trophy that’s fine. If it doesn’t, it’s also fine. But at least next season we have to be among the contenders- even if Liverpool and City are strong and have a healthy squad . We’ll just need one or two additions to the team.

We have outperformed everybody this year apart from Liverpool, which is a good sign. But I’m not deceived or carried away. I know Amaka and I know his players. They can still disappoint. They are improving but disappointment still fit happen.

I just want an 80+ points season and a title challenge at least next season. Ole may be the person to make us be contenders but it’s unlikely he’ll be the one to make us serial champions. Waiting on that one sha.

The league was won with 90+ points in the last 2 seasons (doesn’t mean it will be won wirh 90 points this season). Liverpool, although they dropped points in the last few games, can still go on a long winning run. They did it last season and the season before that. They’ve done it before. It won’t be outrageous to say they can do it again. We cannot say that about our team and coach. We are inconsistent. We have to take it one game at a time.

This is not to say that we cannot win the league this season or at least be a contender. I’m just not that sold on this team and club at the moment. You can have a different opinion and that’s fine.

Plus it’s still freaking early. We’re potentially level on points with the league toppers after 17 games and all these talks don start.

Like Rashford and Ole said weeks ago, let’s see how we are later on and we’ll see where we stand.

But this shouldn’t stop you, capitalcee and others from dreaming. We seem to be on the way back to the top and it feels good. If we don’t get there this season we have to get there next season.
You have spoken well...

I think we have a relatively large squad that can deal with fatigue and injuries better than most of our rivals if Ole gets it right...

I will like Ole to use some of these cup competition to try out a system excluding Bruno just so we are prepared in any case he picks up a knock.

In all, I hope we put up a good fight for the title and win at least one cup competition just to boost the overall confidence of the team...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:02pm On Dec 31, 2020
patrickmuf:
I thought as much...

I know we have our faults but our renewed believe has more to do with our struggling rivals. Since it's a general consensus that this team needs a trophy to kick on, I rather we take advantage of this window presented by the poor form of our rivals...

Hopefully Amad and Facundo comes through in January and we kick on...

Yup. We need additions. Especially on the RW.

Rashford seems to be the most efficient player there ar the moment. He can cross wirh his right and cut in and shoot with his left. Make Greenwood dey take notes.

I’m really hoping Greenwood grows and cements a place across the front three. His physicality and decision making needs work.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 2:05pm On Dec 31, 2020
@Leyqute


Abeg, you too much!

It's annoying to see a certain party here who wants the coach out saying that we must win the league and all and anyone one who try to let them see how that can be ridiculous is seen as a mediocre and whatnots.


What if we win the league this season and become shitt afterwards?

Remember when Liverpool lost UCL and EPL then won it the following seasons, this is thesame Liverpool currently topping the chart.


That's the kind of improvement I want in this squad.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:06pm On Dec 31, 2020
Happy New Year my people. We have already entered the new year and so far so good. May 2021 be better than 2020 for all of us.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 2:10pm On Dec 31, 2020
afrodoc2:
Happy New Year my people. We have already entered the new year and so far so good. May 2021 be better than 2020 for all of us.

In Nigeria, it's still 2020.

Happy new year all thesame.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:10pm On Dec 31, 2020
patrickmuf:
You have spoken well...

I think we have a relatively large squad that can deal with fatigue and injuries better than most of our rivals if Ole gets it right...

I will like Ole to use some of these cup competition to try out a system excluding Bruno just so we are prepared in any case he picks up a knock.

In all, I hope we put up a good fight for the title and win at least one cup competition just to boost the overall confidence of the team...

Exactly.

However, I’m not 100% sold on squad depth. We are way better than where we are last season though.

Cavani can get injured at any time. And Bruno is involved in almost all goals. If he’s out of the picture na problem be that for us. Can’t play Pogba as AM. Or Mata. Or even VDB.

We need others to step up more often.

VDB has played that Bruno position in cup games this season more than once and it wasn’t good. Bruno still had to come on and provide the goal.

Ole needs to still play some games without Bruno this season, like you rightly said. We shouldn’t build the team around one player. Everyone needs to step up.

And yeah. We need a trophy this season. May not be the league but other trophies dey. We beat City in the Carabao cup and we are one step closer.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:10pm On Dec 31, 2020
afrodoc2:
Happy New Year my people. We have already entered the new year and so far so good. May 2021 be better than 2020 for all of us.

Happy new year chief!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:10pm On Dec 31, 2020
afrodoc2:
Happy New Year my people. We have already entered the new year and so far so good. May 2021 be better than 2020 for all of us.

Happy new year o. Chai, we would be among the last to enter the new year, fuvk time zone!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:17pm On Dec 31, 2020
Karleb:
@Leyqute


Abeg, you too much!

It's annoying to see a certain party here who wants the coach out saying that we must win the league and all and anyone one who try to let them see how that can be ridiculous is seen as a mediocre and whatnots.


What if we win the league this season and become shitt afterwards?

Remember when Liverpool lost UCL and EPL then won it the following seasons, this is thesame Liverpool currently topping the chart.


That's the kind of improvement I want in this squad.

Boss. Sometimes I no Dey blame them. People want trophies and they are entitled to dream. But taking opinions at the extreme and fighting others who don’t share your dream no be am.

I want us to be serial challengers. Both in the league and in Europe. Will it be a bad thing if we win the league and UCL in the same season?

That freaking Liverpool almost did it 2 seasons ago. They for do am last season if not for Atletico Madrid. I dey pray make their team break down this season.

If by Feb or March we’re still in the running OGS needs to play some mind games or do something to throw a spanner in their works. And may City drop more points.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:17pm On Dec 31, 2020
afrodoc2:
Happy New Year my people. We have already entered the new year and so far so good. May 2021 be better than 2020 for all of us.

Àmen

Abeg keep my champagne cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:17pm On Dec 31, 2020
nitrogen:


Happy new year o. Chai, we would be among the last to enter the new year, fuvk time zone!

Thanks. Surviving 2020 is an achievement on its own. That year use people nostril to blow trumpet.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:19pm On Dec 31, 2020
Leyqute:


Happy new year chief!

Thanks bro. I don enter 2021 o. I dey wait for the rest of your to cross and enjoy its fresh air.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 2:20pm On Dec 31, 2020
I will never understand the authority in which some fans claim a coach used the wrong tactics/lineup for a particular game just because they lost. If they ask you to bring out your proposed lineup and tactics for tomorrow game you won't say anything sensible. Tommorow when line up come out you will see the coaching experts forming activity.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:21pm On Dec 31, 2020
Leyqute:


Exactly.

However, I’m not 100% sold on squad depth. We are way better than where we are last season though.

Cavani can get injured at any time. And Bruno is involved in almost all goals. If he’s out of the picture na problem be that for us. Can’t play Pogba as AM. Or Mata. Or even VDB.

We need others to step up more often.

VDB has played that Bruno position in cup games this season more than once and it wasn’t good. Bruno still had to come on and provide the goal.

Ole needs to still play some games without Bruno this season, like you rightly said. We shouldn’t build the team around one player. Everyone needs to step up.

And yeah. We need a trophy this season. May not be the league but other trophies dey. We beat City in the Carabao cup and we are one step closer.
Ole need to trust those on the bench...I also feel he needs to fashion out a formation different from 4-2-3-1 when Bruno isn't available as he seems to be the only one that can play that AMF role to perfection...Maybe, a 4-3-3 with VDB and Pogba tasked to play as box to box CMs with Matic at the base...

I am looking forward to the Caraboa cup where I hope to see a bit of Amad and Facundo...If any of them comes in and does well, it will be a big plus...

Also, I am optimistic that Martial and Greenwood will pick up soon and when that happens, it'll be a big plus for us...In all, it's not like we have been at our best all season yet we are still holding our own so, whilst we expect Liverpool and Man City to kick on at some point, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of us also playing better and winning games comfortably...

The records shows that Liverpool have been a point better than us since February, that like 11 months of good form...I am optimistic...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 2:21pm On Dec 31, 2020
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:33pm On Dec 31, 2020
nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd
Make sure you don't carry this into the new year.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 31, 2020
Social media is just too wonderful, you'll definitely see someone who will type and post wetin dey your mind and even express it better.
Leyqute oil dey your head. Cautious optimism ain't no mediocrity.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:39pm On Dec 31, 2020
patrickmuf:
Ole need to trust those on the bench...I also feel he needs to fashion out a formation different from 4-2-3-1 when Bruno isn't available as he seems to be the only one that can play that AMF role to perfection...Maybe, a 4-3-3 with VDB and Pogba tasked to play as box to box CMs with Matic at the base...

Agreed. Ole plays a 4-2-3-1 and a 3-5-2 majorly. He needs at least one more formation tweak. Months ago he tried the 4-4-2 diamond and quickly dropped it when kasala burst.

Pogba can play in a 4-3-3 midfield. We’ll just need the wingers and forwards to do more.

This is why I think Ole is not there. And his in-game management needs to be top notch. Always.



I am looking forward to the Caraboa cup where I hope to see a bit of Amad and Facundo...If any of them comes in and does well, it will be a big plus...

Also, I am optimistic that Martial and Greenwood will pick up soon and when that happens, it'll be a big plus for us...In all, it's not like we have been at our best all season yet we are still holding our own so, whilst we expect Liverpool and Man City to kick on at some point, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of us also playing better and winning games comfortably...

The records shows that Liverpool have been a point better than us since February, that like 11 months of good form...I am optimistic...

We are not bad bad. We’re getting better. Rashford is scoring goals despite having a not so good performance and Martial sef Dey provide assists.

If we replace the first half of last season with that of this season, we definitely won’t end with 66 points and we’d be closer to Liverpool when the season ended a few months ago.

I’m cautiously optimistic.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 2:44pm On Dec 31, 2020
afrodoc2:


I believe Ole is the main reason you and others don’t think we can challenge for the title this season.

We are 2nd on the table and over the course of 2020 we garnered more points than everybody apart from Liverpool, and yet you don’t think we are title contenders?

Unless you mean Liverpool are the only title contenders.

Ever since Bruno came in we have had a better league performance than Chelshit, Spurs, and even Man City. So if we can’t challenge for the title who can?

Our defence is a cause for concern but we have the kind squad depth that most other teams lack. Bailly, Telles, Pogba, VDB, Henderson, Cavani have essentially been bench players this season.

We have been lucky with injuries so far and even with injuries there is not much of a drop off between our 1st team players and the replacements in most positions.

I am not saying Amaka must win the title but to say that we can’t challenge for the title this season would be cowardly.
Na wa oh
Doc

All these talks sef

My AGENDA

our defense is what makes me think we may not be title challengers.

Ole won't be judged by winning the title if he eventually misses out during the title race.


Finish

Any other thing, no be me talk am.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:47pm On Dec 31, 2020
"What if we win the league this season and become shitt afterwards?"

grin grin grin

Nawa oo

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:49pm On Dec 31, 2020
handelex:
Social media is just too wonderful, you'll definitely see someone who will type and post wetin dey mind and even express it better.
Leyqute oil dey your head. Cautious optimism ain't no mediocrity.
Coconut oyel?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:53pm On Dec 31, 2020
afrodoc2:


Thanks. Surviving 2020 is an achievement on its own. That year use people nostril to blow trumpet.

Yes o, 2020 na cruise, I swear. There is a movie on Netflix ‘Death to 2020’. It reminds of the major events of the year 2020.

Hopefully, things get better in 2021.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 2:56pm On Dec 31, 2020
Expert17:
"What if we win the league this season and become shitt afterwards?"

grin grin grin

Nawa oo

You have any problem with that?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 3:10pm On Dec 31, 2020
Happy new year fams (Australian time)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:11pm On Dec 31, 2020
About time.

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