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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO11(f): 2:52am On Jan 01, 2021 |
samuk:You obviously read that comment with your eyes full of tears. This explains why you couldn’t see or understand a thing from it. Or are you just been deliberately fraudulent as always? 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 2:52am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Ideadoctor:Samu don suffer... 2 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 2:56am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:liars approving lies, who your lie help,we are great, and it is apparent. We are ancient, science confirmed it,we are unique the whole world say yes,if Benin say no,who are they?, just one irrelevant minor group,that has managed to gain popularity through international sex slavery. if you want me to feed you with more letters, quote me omode! 2 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 3:02am On Jan 01, 2021 |
samuk:This boy just they vex me,you want make I knock you out through phone, why you too dey dull and unlogical 2 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 3:05am On Jan 01, 2021 |
where are these boys?, I really want to feed them today, but thank God osanobua had called them to sleep, if not maybe they will celebrate the new year in mild depression 2 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO11(f): 3:57am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Can you direct me to your source where Oba Akenzua II approved or sanctioned the 1970s forgery ?? The only account which the Benin palace sanctions as “official” are those which Egharevba gathered from the court of Oba Akenzua II. These accounts are the ones known as the “official” traditions. These accounts are those which the Palace grants to historians as the “official”. As Bondarenko puts it, these accounts collected from Akenzua II’s court by Chief Egharevba are “the Benin “official” (i.e., traditionally recognized by Oba themselves and most widely spread among common Bini)”. Despite the announcement of the apocryphal version in the late 1970s, the Bini historian, Prince E. B. Eweka 1989: iv, 15, 16, 18 continues to recognize the “official royalist tradition” for the sake of academia. As I have demonstrated and as historians have noted, the recent apocryphal and deliberately unauthentic version continues to be in the public sphere for its purpose of shifting political goalposts. Pls what makes Cyril punch story official when not accepted by authority?You probably followed my comment from the back of your phone. Cyril Punch’s account has nothing to do with Oduduwa. Oral traditions vary in communities... The Yoruba Muslims believe Oduduwa came from Mecca, the Yoruba traditionalist believe he came from the sky.I’m quite certain that after you’ve relaxed your nerves, you would realize that I’m discussing historical accounts and not people’s personal or general religious beliefs. The only obviously valid historical account of Oduduwa’s roots is that which originate ab-initio from the Yorubas themselves. And that is the account which states definitively that Oduduwa is a Yoruba man who hailed from one of the hilly settlements surrounding the vast expanse of the Ife bowl — the Oke-Ora hill particularly. And to correct a falsehood which Saamu has sweated tirelessly but in vain to perpetuate, this traditional account was not first put into writing in the year 2010. Although I recognize that the year it was written would only be an issue IF there was an earlier contrary Yoruba-originated historical account to it. But there isn’t. However, the historical work I cited in that thread was published in 2010 but its author was clearly citing two independent historians from a work published in 1992. And I did provide the reference. Furthermore, Bondarenko cites Eluyemi 1990: 80 as well as Obayemi 1976: 210 for this same account where he specifically made reference to Eluyemi’s allusion to the archaeological exploration of Oke-Ora in an attempt to pinpoint the specific one of the seven hills around the Ife bowl which the traditions speak of. Even in Benin history, there are different accounts as to the death of Ewuare 1, the story of emotan, the story of Arhuan and this stories get altered as time goes onThe bolded part of your comment here is the specific principle which answers your agitation. In other words, the earliest account which originates locally is the closest to the untainted truth. What makes an oral history accepted is when it is accepted by most people of which the ife story is notUntil “acceptance by the lay people” = “truth”. Until then, you haven’t made any point here. I am not discussing what have been put before lay persons here. Instead, I am discussing the actual historical reality. So Cyril story is not valid especially as there was no known written work where he got his story from apart from the oral stories which can be twisted depending on who is saying itYour special pleading here is especially absurd for the following reasons. (1) The same question you’ve asked here about the written source for Punch’s documentation should (by your principle) be raised about such written source itself. This leads to an obviously absurd and meaningless rabbit hole of infinite regress of written sources. (2) One may ask the same meaningless question about the historicity of the following Bini rulers: Eweka 1, Ewedo, Oguola, Ewuare 1, Ezoti, Olua, Ozolua, Esigie, Orhogbua, Ehengbuda, and several others. There are no written sources from their respective times which specifically identifies them and confirms their existence. The first specifically identifiable documentation of their existence long after their respective reigns was thus from oral narration which says such & such was an Oba of Benin, son of such & such, did such & such, etc. Would you now be consistent with your amateurish contention and reject all these personages as having nothing to do with Benin history?? No, I guess. In fact, one may ask the same meaningless question about virtually all of Benin history recorded by the Europeans — from the Portuguese accounts downward. Having shown the meaninglessness of your contention here; what an historian considers instead are the following: (A) Mr Cyril Punch first collected a specific account about a certain Ekaladerhan from Benin. (B) Chief Egharevba who came to the historical scene some fifty (50) years after Punch, also independently collected the same account about Ekaladerhan from Benin. The conclusion here thus become apparent, and that is that: We observe an evidence of historicity (or at least no deliberate foul play) since essentially the same account was collected independently from different Benin generations of some fifty (50) years apart. And like you’ve rightly suggested, the foul plays would only begin in the later-day changes to the already documented account. And this is precisely what we see with the apocryphal account of the 1970s which blatantly contradicts the received traditions of Ekalderahan. Cc: Ideadoctor, babtoundey, Balogunodua, Obalufon sesan85, PORNeIlusHUBson 13 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Nobody: 4:05am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Some Bini miscreants from the backyard called Edo state are bringing their stupidity into this new year again. The easiest way for most minority monkeys to gain attention is for them to take jabs at yorubas by spreading falsehood and revisionist history but yet in the grand scheme of things they are greatly irrelevant and only represent the country in human trafficking and prostitution in Italy. Forget history, last time i checked one of the largest languages in Africa is Yoruba, Edo young one's can't even speak their language or go to their villages cus of fear of witchcraft. Even among Niger Delta states Edo is still a minority based on some metrics... it's a pity that our distant cousins have decided to go the part of a fool. An insult on the Yoruba is an insult to the oba of Benin, fools. 3 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Obalufon: 4:21am On Jan 01, 2021 |
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO11(f): 7:51am On Jan 01, 2021 |
nocomment9999:Summary For Quick Referencing (1) “Yoruba” Founded In 1808 ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759 (2) No Relationship Between Ife and Benin Prior To The 1800s ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/9#96323798 OR https://www.nairaland.com/6087424/benin-ife-myth-shouldnt-circulated#93803726 (3) Binis Militarily Invaded, Conquered, Settled in Lagos, and then Installed an Edo Prince as The First King ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6286709/ijebu-vs-jebusite/1#96593783 (4) Binis Own The Word “Oba” ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 (5) Benin Obtained TRIBUTES from OYo ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6291440/benin-remain-center-west-africa/1#96792413 (6) Benin Ruled Certain Eastern-Yoruba Kingdoms ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96519494 Cheers! 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 8:01am On Jan 01, 2021 |
As Bondarenko puts it, these accounts collected from Akenzua II’s court by Chief Egharevba are “the Benin “official” (i.e., traditionally recognized by Oba themselves and most widely spread among common Bini)”. Well Tao11 the next oba after him believed that the his grandfather was actually Ekaladerhan.. and it actually widely believed by the majority of Benin and that is now the new official account Make of it what u want... I don't have time for back and forth early this year.. Good morning |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 8:05am On Jan 01, 2021 |
I Sha know say I nor be omode ... So I go leave u make u think say u wise
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO11(f): 8:07am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Ekaladerhan is whose grandfather? Erediauwa’s grandfather ?? This must be the latest forgery — the 2020 forgery. Lol. Anyways, I’d presume that what you obviously tried to say here is that Omonoba Erediauwa (who succeeded Omonoba Akenzua II) came to believe an apocryphal “Ekaladerhan = Oduduwa (or Oranmiyan)” story. However, these stories are the very ones which have been traced by historians and have been found to be forgeries. I have also similarly proven and established this same fact on this thread [here]. In sum then, the official royalist tradition remains the actual historical reality regardless of the number of laypersons who have been coerced otherwise. Cc: Ideadoctor, Obalufon, Balogunodua, babtoundey, sesan85 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 8:40am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Ideadoctor:See this Yoruba miscreants Sha If we should talk abt modern weapons, which modern weapons does the entire Yoruba have? U think we are in the era of stick and cutlasses... ...okobo Or have u guys developed a world class cutlass that we don't know abt... The war will come and u guys will be shocked as to how y'all will be decimated quicker than expected... This clown is talking of imperial power... Ur Oyo Empire was decimated majorly by the Fulanis... They even took Ilorin from u guys deceiving ur people... As expected, I always knew u were dumb but every day, it rises more than expected.. Now if u've actually read abt the Biafran war, u'll know that this talk u are saying is trash... First of, Benin or lemme say Midwest was still under Nigeria... They were not an independent kingdom and they relied on the Nigerian army for help... So how do u expect the Midwest to defend themselves when they had no Standing army? Also, according to Victor Banjo memoirs, he said that they took over Midwest without firing a single Bullet. Another source say there was little or no resistance by the Nigerian army . Now to support this, Albert okonkwo set up Republic of Benin (which lasted for a day) to gain the support of the locals in the region ... But it clearly didn't work.. so now that I've explained this to u, can u tell me how the Biafran army ransacked Benin if u are not dumb? Its obvious that u are About to.break down in tears Sha... But before u cry completely... let me tell u that the Nigerian army that fought in ore was not made up of Yoruba only.. Otherwise Lagos would have been taken easily.. rather it was made up of Hausa, Fulani, Edo, ijaw, and a host of other tribes and not the false story u are trying to give us here Also Benjamin adekunle has been demystified a couple of times in the war.. in fact he got a lot of help from the local communities otherwise he would have lost a lot of men and be demoted to private... Benjamin that lost Owerri to the Biafrans... In fact it was major adaka boro that helped him with the success that u Yoruba lots ascribed to him... Other than that he was just a clueless colonel |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 8:43am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Balogunodua: Balogun my man, no update since yesterday... What happened? Are u guys on strike? 1 Like
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 8:47am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Let me enjoy my coronation as the new Oba of Benin... 1 Like |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 8:49am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Hahahaha... there is no more lies for Edo miscreants..to bring forth You are far below Omode... 2 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 8:52am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234: Kikikiki..... wailing won't save you from disgrace |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 8:54am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Balogunodua: Congrats bro... I've been Ooni of ife for the past 5 years and I must say that kingship is not easy... If u need any help, I can send my cultists on agege to come and assist u |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 8:57am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Balogunodua: Its obvious that u are very bored.... My regards to ur mental Health |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 8:57am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Kikikiki... Even your Oba would slap you for this... Go check on you brother...he might have been victim of cult war 1 Like |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 8:59am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Yeyeyeyeye... when lie finish Dem go de form principal... Kai! Edo peeps sha..... 1 Like |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 9:05am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Balogunodua: So u dinnor believe that I'm the Ooni of ife? Lol I'd soon send one of my chiefs to deal with u By the way check on ur grandfather grave...they might have mined his skull 1 Like
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 9:07am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Balogunodua: Just as clownery doesn't help ur cause
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 9:08am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Balogunodua:k Are u serious.. All this Yoruba miscreants sef
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 9:17am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Stale... Go check Ooooh your sister might have been trafficked to Italy for............................. |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by sesan85(m): 9:17am On Jan 01, 2021 |
PORNeIlusHUBson:Oga, those are the praise names of the Oba of Benin, your delusional protestations and denials notwithstanding. Once again, go to bed. 5 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 9:18am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Cry me a River... your Benin mushroom empire was squashed... |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Balogunodua(m): 9:22am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:No more lies to parade... |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO11(f): 9:31am On Jan 01, 2021 |
PORNeIlusHUBson:There is one more alternative you ‘mistakenly’ left out ? Could he have also gotten it from the Edo nation webpage below ?? Lol https://www.edo-nation.net/appell.htm Cc: sesan85, Idedoctor, balogunodua, Obalufon 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by sesan85(m): 9:37am On Jan 01, 2021 |
TAO11: It's really amusing and mind-boggling the lenght these clowns shamelessly embark on to manufacture spurious, ahistorical horseshit. They just woke up one day with some nonsensical Izoduwa, Imadoduwa, Idoduwa, yet none of the manufactured names were mentioned to the Europeans by their ancestors, but you have mentions of Oduduwa here and there in their REAL, non-revisionist oral traditions. Just look at their bold attempt to turn Oranmiyan into some asinine "Omonoyon." I remember when these buffoons used to argue that Eti-Osa was originally Etinosa, or that Apongbon was originally Agbongbon, until we told them the meaning of Eti-Osa in Yoruba and that Apongbon means "reddish beards" in Yoruba and was named after controversial British/Scottish consul/merchant in Lagos William McCoskry because of his reddish beards. If you take a peep into their various revisionist sites, you'll see them shamelessly claiming Ifa, Orunmila, Eshu, Shango, Olokun, Aiyelala, Ogun etc, and accusing the Yorubas of stealing these deities from them! I'm so tired of their nonsense hence I go uncouth on them. They don't deserve my civility. 3 Likes |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by PORNeIlusHUBson: 9:38am On Jan 01, 2021 |
sesan85: Just as the praise name of the Ooni of ife is Ovbi Ekaladerhan The Child of Ekaladerhan Eniti Benin se Oba The One Benin made king Omo Ogiso ti owa lati orun... The Child of the ogiso that came from the sky Hope u'll also agree with me... At least I've educated u and others will continue to use this post as reference to ur false claims of Oba praise... U can choke on ur ignorance for all I care Anytime u post this, I'll continue to refer u to this 1 Like |
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO11(f): 9:40am On Jan 01, 2021 |
sesan85:Benin people’s matter actually deserves some thirty minutes on “Nkan-Nbe”! 4 Likes 3 Shares |
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