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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by LordReed(m): 3:53pm On Jan 03, 2021
atheistandproud:


So you think say pastor no like better things abi?

That same man will drive out to his church in a low income residential neighborhood and use loud speakers to disturb people who are just trying to survive.

Lemme even give you more perspective. The church were he pastors is across the road from another Quiet Estate. Because of the crowd and vehicles which caused tarrifc issues on service days, the Quiet Estate put its foot down that no more parking on the road that goes by their fence. They even involved police in the matter. LMAO!
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 3:55pm On Jan 03, 2021
Nigerians are bloody hypocrites.

To further buttress my point....

https://www.nairaland.com/6343165/still-same-arewa-princess-woman

When she was Nigeria

After she left

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 3:57pm On Jan 03, 2021
LordReed:


Lemme even give you more perspective. The church were he pastors is across the road from another Quiet Estate. Because of the crowd and vehicles which caused traffic issues on service days, the Quiet Estate put its foot down that no more parking on the road that goes by their fence. They even involved police in the matter. LMAO!

Because you cannot pay that kind huge amount of money and not be able to enter and leave your place of residence.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jan 03, 2021
LordReed:
LMAO! I too live in Quiet Estate and have a pastor as a neighbour. Not a single pim. Bwahahahahaha!
Lols. It's a general observation.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Image123(m): 4:05pm On Jan 03, 2021
atheistandproud:
Nigerians love God. Muslims love God. Christians love God. They all love the Nigerian God. Unfortunately, the Nigerian God is loud. His presence in a neighborhood is a security risk. So the first thing Nigerians do when they acquire education, enlightenment, wealth and power is to lock him out of their neighborhood.

My friend lives in a well planned estate somewhere in Ogun state. There is only one way to enter and to exit, and it is manned by well trained security men. Every house within that estate is residential. There is no shop, no school, no mosque, no church. Not even house fellowship! Needless to say that the opportunity for loitering within that neighborhood is effectively zero. In the five years that my friend has lived there, not one petty theft has been reported.

The irony is obvious, isn't it? The residents of that quiet estate leave their quiet neighborhood to worship the loud Nigerian God in churches in another neighborhood just outside the gate of their estate. Here, the rest of humanity lives. Here, the one-church-per-street rule of the RCCG is alive and well. Here every third house is a church or a mosque. Here there is loitering, stealing and armed robbery on a regular basis. The presence of God is a security risk and a source of environmental pollution. The residents of Quiet Estate know this and they decided to lock God out. If they need to see God they visit him in the next neighborhood, shout at the top of their lungs and return to their quiet estate. Because they are powerful and smart enough to build their God's house in a neighborhood where the inhabitants are too powerless, too unenlightened and too poor to reject the noise and security risk.

If the inhabitants of Quiet Estate love their God that much, why don't they house him in their quiet and safe estate? That is your Nigerian religious hypocrisy, staring right in your face.

By Dr. Olayinka
2017

Oh come on, be reasonable not senseless. You yourself mentioned well planned. Mode and method of church service is not God. God does not live in physical church buildings but in people. A residential area is a residential area. It is still you that will complain if they bring church there. Real believers pray without ceasing and study and meditate on the Word everywhere. Jesus Christ Himself excused Himself instead of constituting nuisance to others privacy. This is commonsense and proper planning, not shutting God out.

Mark 1:35 And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 4:27pm On Jan 03, 2021
Image123:


Oh come on, be reasonable not senseless. You yourself mentioned well planned. Mode and method of church service is not God. God does not live in physical church buildings but in people. A residential area is a residential area. It is still you that will complain if they bring church there. Real believers pray without ceasing and study and meditate on the Word everywhere. Jesus Christ Himself excused Himself instead of constituting nuisance to others privacy. This is commonsense and proper planning, not shutting God out.

Mark 1:35 And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.

1. So the so-called "house of god" belongs to unplanned places abi? LMAO.

2. Going by your logic, then there's absolutely no need for churches since every individual can do his/her kini from the house.

3. The places where 90% of Nigerian churches are located is in residential areas. On people's streets, lanes and closes. So that defeats your argument.

4. Jesus didn't want to constitute a nuisance yet the churches which you have rose to their defense are doing the exact opposite.


The question still remains

Why do the affluent relegate houses of worship to residential areas of poorer people?

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by theFilmtric: 4:46pm On Jan 03, 2021
atheistandproud:


Now you're moving away from the argument to something personal. I won't take the bait.

Of course I was referring to the South.

At this point, you're out of points.

If I think the absence of religion, yeah totally.
Compare South Korea or Denmark to France for example. Which one is more peaceful?
Compare Japan to Southern USA or Nigeria. Which one is more peaceful?
Stop jumping all over the place.
The topic was about enlightened, educated and well to do Nigerians locking out god from their places of residence and moving him to be with the poor.

I have sufficiently proven this hypocrisy beyond reasonable doubt. Thank you.
I just saw this
I ain't getting personal
For your info France is more secular(less religious) than any European country
Its even in their constitution but still violent
Japan is more peaceful than the USA because of the USA's liberal gun laws
Even Nigeria is more peaceful than South USA
The hypocrisy I repeat
Is None of my business
I can't speak for Nigeria


theFilmtricsay
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Topmaike007(m): 4:55pm On Jan 03, 2021
Una wahala too much for here aswear...

But let's be logical something must create something before it exist..

There is a supreme being somewhere, he might be in one of the planet orbiting in space, and that planet might be heaven..

I hope I am making sense?

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by theFilmtric: 5:14pm On Jan 03, 2021
Topmaike007:
Una wahala too much for here aswear...

But let's be logical something must create something before it exist..

There is a supreme being somewhere, he might be in one of the planet orbiting in space, and that planet might be heaven..

I hope I am making sense?

for sure
There's a superior being somewhere


theFilmtricsay
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by zakkyzakes: 5:20pm On Jan 03, 2021
atheistandproud:


There is always a trick that only the magicians know.

There was one native doctor who was seriously beaten up when I was still growing up in Warri.

He had made odeshi (bulletproof) for some boys and had "tested it but some of them died especially during the Warri inter ethnic crisis.

The truth was he used blanks to test the charm that he made. His hapless clients didn't realize that the native doctor was firing blanks.

There's always a trick my guy, one day breeze go blow fowl nyansh open.
yeah some of em are tricksters anyway
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by zakkyzakes: 5:25pm On Jan 03, 2021
theFilmtric:

for sure
There's a superior being somewhere


theFilmtricsay
yeah there has to be something/someone keeping balance
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Image123(m): 9:38am On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


1. So the so-called "house of god" belongs to unplanned places abi? LMAO.

A well planned city has places that are industrial, some residential, some shopping area, and of course some for worship. This is what is obtainable in developed nations. If the place of worship is in residential areas, then there is sound proof. It is very simple if you will manage to think.

2. Going by your logic, then there's absolutely no need for churches since every individual can do his/her kini from the house.

God is not limited or restricted to places of worship, that was the point made. He lives in every believer, not locked out as you naively claim.

3. The places where 90% of Nigerian churches are located is in residential areas. On people's streets, lanes and closes. So that defeats your argument.

Nothing stops a place of worship(church) from being in a residential area if there is proper planning. Once things like noise, parking, security and co are not affected, then why not. But if they are affected, then a well planned society will position it differently. Same thing goes for schools, markets, parks, courts, offices etc.

4. Jesus didn't want to constitute a nuisance yet the churches which you have rose to their defense are doing the exact opposite.


The question still remains

Why do the affluent relegate houses of worship to residential areas of poorer people?

You have no real question. You probably need exposure.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 10:41am On Jan 04, 2021
Image123:


A well planned city has places that are industrial, some residential, some shopping area, and of course some for worship. This is what is obtainable in developed nations. If the place of worship is in residential areas, then there is sound proof. It is very simple if you will manage to think.



God is not limited or restricted to places of worship, that was the point made. He lives in every believer, not locked out as you naively claim.



Nothing stops a place of worship(church) from being in a residential area if there is proper planning. Once things like noise, parking, security and co are not affected, then why not. But if they are affected, then a well planned society will position it differently. Same thing goes for schools, markets, parks, courts, offices etc.



You have no real question. You probably need exposure.

You have managed to do everything but answer the question.

You have no real answer. Please shut up. Thank you.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by theFilmtric: 11:38am On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


The question still remains

Why do the affluent relegate houses of worship to residential areas of poorer people?
If you are talking about Nigeria and other underdeveloped countries
Because most of the “affluent” have nothing to do with God
Most of the rich in Nigeria are criminals(hidden)~that's an obvious fact


theFilmtricsay
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 11:48am On Jan 04, 2021
theFilmtric:

If you are talking about Nigeria and other underdeveloped countries
Because most of the “affluent” have nothing to do with God
Most of the rich in Nigeria are criminals(hidden)~that's an obvious fact


theFilmtricsay

Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!

That's the answer. Right there.

Religion is left for the less privileged in the society.

So what happens when the members of the underprivileged class makes it in life? Simple, they move into a quiet estate and lock god out.

I can bet my left balls that if 70% of Nigerians can afford to own a car and live in estates, more estates will be built and religion will slowly decline.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by theFilmtric: 12:01pm On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!

That's the answer. Right there.

Religion is left for the less privileged in the society.

So what happens when the members of the underprivileged class makes it life? Simple, they move into a quiet estate and lock god out.

I can bet my left balls that if 70% of Nigerians can afford to own a car and live in estates, more estates will be built and religion will slowly decline.
I don't think you read my previous post right
You really don't love your left testis
And what do you mean by estates
The idea of building estates only lives in underdeveloped countries like Nigeria
It is a very unrealistic stupid concept


theFilmtricsay
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 12:05pm On Jan 04, 2021
theFilmtric:

I don't think you read my previous post right
You really don't love your left testis
And what do you mean by estates
The idea of building estates only lives in underdeveloped countries like Nigeria
It is a very unrealistic stupid concept


theFilmtricsay

Lol grin grin grin

But Nigerians love estates.

The ones that cannot afford it live in mini estates or high gated compounds.

Anything to get away from the dregs of society and to reflect the new status quo.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by theFilmtric: 12:08pm On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


Lol grin grin grin

But Nigerians love estates.

The ones that cannot afford it live in mini estates or high gated compounds.

Anything to get away from the dregs of society and to reflect the new status quo.
Nigerians love things that make them look rich
Not things that make them rich
Almost everything in Nigeria is upside down


theFilmtricsay
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 12:08pm On Jan 04, 2021
theFilmtric:

this your statement no follow o
Is Qatar,Kuwait not religious?
Evangelistic groups are largest in the USA
The USA is very religious also(but not compellingly like the aforementioned
Aren't they comfortable?
Are Spain,Portugal,Italy not largely catholic?


theFilmtricsay
Even within the developed nations,their "bible belts" just happen to be the worst places. That seals the argument.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by theFilmtric: 12:29pm On Jan 04, 2021
BeLookingIDIOT:

Even within the developed nations,their "bible belts" just happen to be the worst places. That seals the argument.
don't just give me a “happen to”
Statement
I need examples,instances


theFilmtricsay
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Mhimi007(m): 1:01pm On Jan 04, 2021
zakkyzakes:
yeah but sir why did u have to turn an atheist m quiet curios
if he answers you trust me you are becoming an atheist too...then you'll realize that youve been living in decit all this while
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Mhimi007(m): 1:06pm On Jan 04, 2021
Image123:


A well planned city has places that are industrial, some residential, some shopping area, and of course some for worship. This is what is obtainable in developed nations. If the place of worship is in residential areas, then there is sound proof. It is very simple if you will manage to think.



God is not limited or restricted to places of worship, that was the point made. He lives in every believer, not locked out as you naively claim.



Nothing stops a place of worship(church) from being in a residential area if there is proper planning. Once things like noise, parking, security and co are not affected, then why not. But if they are affected, then a well planned society will position it differently. Same thing goes for schools, markets, parks, courts, offices etc.



You have no real question. You probably need exposure.
Deeper life for instance have the biggest auditorium in Lagos...well i was expecting it to be at Victoria Island or Even Eko atlantic but no its at Bariga...they have a tight security and with what I understand the building is sound proof and a massive car park.But my question is why wasn't it built on the Island

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 1:12pm On Jan 04, 2021
theFilmtric:

don't just give me a “happen to”
Statement
I need examples,instances


theFilmtricsay
This is a well known fact, I didn't invent the term "bible belts"
Religiousity generally,is inversely proportional to development.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by hoopernikao: 1:19pm On Jan 04, 2021
Mhimi007:
Deeper life for instance have the biggest auditorium in Lagos...well i was expecting it to be at Victoria Island or Even Eko atlantic but no its at Bariga...they have a tight security and with what I understand the building is sound proof and a massive car park.But my question is why wasn't it built on the Island

Why Was the Lagos state government secretariat built in Ikeja and not in island?

And if you don't know history, it's a fact that that deeper life center in Bariga you mentioned is likely older than the whole of Lekki and most of its islands. So, it shouldn't be tough for you to know why island has to come to Bariga to "see God" .
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 1:23pm On Jan 04, 2021
hoopernikao:


Why Was the Lagos state government secretariat built in Ikeja and not Victoria Island?

Government buildings belongs in the state capital.

Why is ASO Rock not built in Edo state?

Your logic is faulty.

A church is not a government building and has no such restrictions.

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by hoopernikao: 1:23pm On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


My brother we don't love god(s).

We need an escape from this harsh reality.

This is why only the poor are zealous with religion.

Nigeria is a country of 200 million people where only 20% have more than 500k in their bank accounts. In other words, a nation of poor people.

In rich countries, religion is dying because a lot of people are comfortable. Look at places like Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and Japan then look at Nigeria, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc.

Which is more religious and which is richer?

If this is your knowledge and all you know about loving or worshiping God, then there is a big gap in your learning of this. Sometimes, it's important we stay on a lane of our knowledge, to avoid misrepresenting others.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by atheistandproud(m): 1:29pm On Jan 04, 2021
hoopernikao:


If this is your knowledge and all you know about loving or worshiping God, then there is a big gap in your learning of this. Sometimes, it's important we stay on a lane of our knowledge, to avoid misrepresenting others.

This is my post, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute.

Uzo uzo.

See your lane, to the left there. Go there and stay there.

You brought up something, I addressed, you're skipping elsewhere.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by hoopernikao: 1:34pm On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


Government buildings belongs in the state capital.

Why is ASO Rock not built in Edo state?

Your logic is faulty.

A church is not a government building and has no such restrictions.

Okay. So why was Victoria Island not capital of Lagos, why Ikeja (that you assumed is for the less). Where was VI went the Lagos secretariat was built? You cant build a temple on a land that never existed. VI that you pride today will still be a mind idea in the brain of its developer when that church in the Bariga was started. It's always good to research full before making judgement

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Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by hoopernikao: 1:37pm On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


This is my post, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute.

Uzo uzo.

See your lane, to the left there. Go there and stay there.

You brought up something, I addressed, you're skipping elsewhere.

Do you detest being challenged or corrected when you rush into a decision?

Don't be. I only tell you to avoid seeing through your palm marks only. Stay on issues you know to avoid being seen as presenting wrong information.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by zakkyzakes: 2:21pm On Jan 04, 2021
Mhimi007:
if he answers you trust me you are becoming an atheist too...then you'll realize that youve been living in decit all this while
well i prayed this morning
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Image123(m): 4:54pm On Jan 04, 2021
Mhimi007:
Deeper life for instance have the biggest auditorium in Lagos...well i was expecting it to be at Victoria Island or Even Eko atlantic but no its at Bariga...they have a tight security and with what I understand the building is sound proof and a massive car park.But my question is why wasn't it built on the Island

Are there no churches on the Island? Are you aware that vice president Osinbajo was a Pastor in a RCCG church in a high brow area. As for Deeper Life, i think they have branches of the church in every part of the country. Plus their headquarters has always been Gbagada from the start.
Re: Dear God, we love you but we must lock you out. by Image123(m): 4:55pm On Jan 04, 2021
atheistandproud:


You have managed to do everything but answer the question.

You have no real answer. Please shut up. Thank you.

This one evidently ran out of ideas and resorted to folly.

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