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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 3:53pm On Jan 04, 2021
InvertedHammer:

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You should have done the POP first.

Or buy nylon and use masking tapes to cover the tiles as work progresses.

Finishing has always been the biggest challenge in construction in Nigeria. It is sad to hear Togolese and Ghanaians taking over plastering jobs in Nigeria because it seems they are more patient with their skills. That's what I heard...never used them.

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Yeah. During my I.T days, my boss usually employ them for plastering and tiling. They are uniquely skilled. Mind you, their charges ain't expensive either.
Our people here too should learn from them if need be. Learnings is everlasting.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 3:56pm On Jan 04, 2021
Carmal90:
Hello,

Pls I would like to ask what is the average block (9"wink that can do for a foundation of 3 bedroom flat?

The description of the building are below....

1 master bedroom ensuite.....
I bedroom ensuite...
I bedroom ( plain room)
1 kitchen and store
1 parlour and dining.
1 ante room
1 public toilet...

I am at croosroad, because the man is calling 1000 blocks of 9" for me and I presumed it shouldn't be up to that....
PS..the building will be structured on half plot of land..

Regards
The man has done his assignment dutifully. 1000 blocks ain't much for such foundation.
I did a similar quote for a family friend, I was almost torn apart.
Mind you. The 1000 blocks could be + or minus.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:01pm On Jan 04, 2021
earthrealm:


I dislike the high roof, and prefer contemporary roof, however this your choice of contemporary roof is too simple,.. i also dont like it.
Try using a better style of contemporary roof as in pics below.

I like contemporary roof cos of the following

1. More pleasing to the eye
2. You can install solar panels optimally and also solar water heater.

3. Easy to combine roof sitout
4. Cheaper than the common steep roof

I cannot but agree with you!

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 4:02pm On Jan 04, 2021
earthrealm:


I dislike the high roof, and prefer contemporary roof, however this your choice of contemporary roof is too simple,.. i also dont like it.
Try using a better style of contemporary roof as in pics below.

I like contemporary roof cos of the following

1. More pleasing to the eye
2. You can install solar panels optimally and also solar water heater.

3. Easy to combine roof sitout
4. Cheaper than the common steep roof
Well, I don't prefer this so called contemporary roofing styles, especially where there are parapet walls, our maintenance culture is so bitter in this country. Our climatic condition isn't very favourable for most building materials.
Besides, I hate to see the structures I design looking pale after few years.

For example, try visit Dugbe in Ibadan, there's a particular structure there that is looking so bad due to the introduction of parapet walls.

Note: parapet walls are walls that extent beyond the roofing sheet.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 4:07pm On Jan 04, 2021
n3xt:

I cannot but agree with you!
Maybe we should do some case studies on this topic and tender reports.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:26pm On Jan 04, 2021
uncleteeh:

Maybe we should do some case studies on this topic and tender reports.

I have a complete dossier on the comtemporary build showcased here. Everything from design to delivery.

https://www.kobocity.com/d/12-show-us-your-facade/3

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:45pm On Jan 04, 2021
uncleteeh:

Yeah. During my I.T days, my boss usually employ them for plastering and tiling. They are uniquely skilled. Mind you, their charges ain't expensive either.
Our people here too should learn from them if need be. Learnings is everlasting.
they're uniquely skilled and inexpensive but they waste materials like mad. I have been to many site they have worked on and it's not worth it at all.

At a time it was as if they were taking over plastering jobs in this town but not anymore. Not when cement is too expensive. These people will mix two bags of cement around 5:45pm and close work around 6:10pm and they will dump the cement in any available holes they can find. If you ask them, they will tell you if you are not rich, you won't be building a new house.

The economics isn't in their favor at all

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 4:45pm On Jan 04, 2021
Someone should please help me to review this job discussion, it's like my bàbà láti is ready to build his own duplex from this labor he is just calling. Engineers in the building. Please assist in going through. Just finished the German floor last year December.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Thenext: 4:57pm On Jan 04, 2021
I think this is somehow high. I did block work from German floor to decking level last 2 weeks and all what your baba lati listed cost me 450k which I was even thinking it was in the high side. Note: Total number of blocks(9 inch) was 5200.


BuildingProject:
Someone should please help me to review this job discussion, it's like my bàbà láti is ready to build his own duplex from this labor he is just calling. Engineers in the building. Please assist in going through. Just finished the German floor last year December.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:05pm On Jan 04, 2021
Thenext:
I think this is somehow high. I did block work from German floor to decking level last 2 weeks and all what your baba lati listed cost me 450k which I was even thinking it was in the high side. Note: Total number of blocks(9 inch) was 5200.



What’s the size of the building where you use 5200 blocks?

#justasking

I recently did foundation of 6 units of 2 bedroom semidetached bungalow and we only use 7,000 blocks for all.

We use 410 bags of cement for all the building.

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Note: we didn’t do raft foundation o

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:11pm On Jan 04, 2021
BuildingProject:
Someone should please help me to review this job discussion, it's like my bàbà láti is ready to build his own duplex from this labor he is just calling. Engineers in the building. Please assist in going through. Just finished the German floor last year December.

I guess baba lati just bought a very swampy land.

I’ll offer him 400k for all the works.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 5:18pm On Jan 04, 2021
Dijita:
Good morning all.
Anyone in the forum that can deliver wooden doors with good finishing the way Michlins deliver steel doors. My project is in a coastal area hence don't want to use steel because of rust. Please I don't want people showing jobs copied from internet as their own.
Thanks

I love this statement, Dijita. Michlins has now become a poster child of tenacity, sincerity, good works, iron and steel fabrication expert. It shows what resilience and self-belief could do. He was once bullied, his capacity doubted, even his mastery and efficient use of English as an artisan questioned. He didn't give up. He has shown utmost openness in the few works received via this forum. Well done Michllin. It is always good to allow your works to speak for you rather than your tongue.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 5:29pm On Jan 04, 2021
BuildingProject:
Someone should please help me to review this job discussion, it's like my bàbà láti is ready to build his own duplex from this labor he is just calling. Engineers in the building. Please assist in going through. Just finished the German floor last year December.

You make him parade himself as engr.
When real building professionals are available you running away from them bcs you thought there charges are much.

I have said it here that what most of this guys ( baba lati and co.) charged this days are enormous compared to what professionals will charge .
Just look at it, ALL these money for just from Germany floor to decking block settings and casting of columns and beams only.

Anyway like someone said 450k, a professional o for that cost.
Means baba lati want you to learn your lesson in hard way.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 5:30pm On Jan 04, 2021
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE HERE.

GOD'S GRACE TO EXCEL IN 2021.....

Whatever you do, keep it Positive
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:32pm On Jan 04, 2021
omanzo02:

Very relevant and easy tool!

Someone pm’d us to include a tool that can estimate the total sqm of a roof carcass.

We will definitely deliver this and many more important tools to our premium subscribers.

kobocity.com

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 5:33pm On Jan 04, 2021
Hello guys,

With the ever increasing price disparity between local and TMT iron rods, i have been wondering if paying premium for TMT rods makes any difference to concrete strength or structural integrity in general?

All things being equal, is it worth it?

What makes a concrete thick?

I am not one to fall for the psychological appeal. same way we all do Dangote cement by default but when push comes to shove we were all happy to take any brand in the market to get the job done.

If local rods will get the job done satisfactory, why pay 25-30% extra for TMT?

Again. all things being equal and standard work practices followed.

Yay or Nay?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 5:36pm On Jan 04, 2021
n3xt:


I cannot but agree with you!
Sweet.
Now imagine this stunning edifice with that horrifying steep roof with say 25 to 30ft king post.
Hideous would be an understatement..

Las las, it all boils down to taste, some like skinny women, some bonny flat chested, some medium, some thicc, some hippo like etc... All man to im taste

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 5:36pm On Jan 04, 2021
rotecch77:


You make him parade himself as engr.
When real building professionals are available you running away from them bcs you think there charges are much.

I have said it here that what most of this guys ( baba lati and co.) charged this days are enormous compared to what professionals will charge .
Just look at it, ALL these money for just from Germany floor to decking block settings and casting of columns and beams only.

Anyway like someone said 450k, a professional o for that cost.
Means baba lati want you to learn your lesson in hard way.


Like I have offended him during the festive period. Perhaps because I didn't buy him chicken. Can someone please suggest a good engineer to me to submit his own quotations or an engineer to supervise this project. Kindly contact me ASAP.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 5:37pm On Jan 04, 2021
Focusmind:


I love this statement, Dijita. Michlins has now become a poster child of tenacity, sincerity, good works, iron and steel fabrication expert. It shows what resilience and self-belief could do. He was once bullied, his capacity doubted, even his mastery and efficient use of English as an artisan questioned. He didn't give up. He has shown utmost openness in the few works received via this forum. Well done Michllin. It is always good to allow your works to speak for you rather than your tongue.

Agreed!

Everyone deserves a chance! I am glad michlins is doing well for himself.

One thing that brings people down faster than they rise up is compromising on their work quality... allowing their head to get bigger than their shoulders.

I hope michilins and everyone else keep calm and stay focused. The sky is the limit.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rulexi: 5:49pm On Jan 04, 2021
Every time I look back to this photo and the house building I feel uncomfortable it haunts me It’s as if they are saying to me, we are not a number not only cheap labor and cheap lives..I’m the first born,I can’t hold this anymore I feel so hurt anytime I look at my father’s property damaging everyday,I’m an orphan With no helper ,I struggle every of the day of my life to eat..I don’t feel happy Looking at my father’s property getting damage everyday..
I’ve been on nairaland for some couple years now..
Pls you can help me with any amount..
God bless everyone who’s willing to help
I will be really grateful,I have no help anywhere..
Pls
7015662017
FCMB
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:50pm On Jan 04, 2021
megacontrol:
Hello guys,

With the ever increasing price disparity between local and TMT iron rods, i have been wondering if paying premium for TMT rods makes any difference to concrete strength or structural integrity in general?

All things being equal, is it worth it?

What makes a concrete thick?

I am not one to fall for the psychological appeal. same way we all do Dangote cement by default but when push comes to shove we were all happy to take any brand in the market to get the job done.

If local rods will get the job done satisfactory, why pay 25-30% extra for TMT?

Again. all things being equal and standard work practices followed.

Yay or Nay?

I like the closing line. So far the steel you’re using meet BS8110 code specifications, you’re good!

Buy or get few samples, take it to the state materials testing laboratory to confirm if it meets approved standard.

Don’t fall for psychological appeal!

Over 1000+ iron rods from different brands used in 10 local government in Lagos state were tested in 2018 and 70% came out successful.
BS8110 code specificied of 460 N/mm2 and not the 410 N/nm2 that’s now a common practice.

Structural Engineers - over to you!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 5:51pm On Jan 04, 2021
BuildingProject:


Like I have offended him during the festive period. Perhaps because I didn't buy him chicken. Can someone please suggest a good engineer to me to submit his own quotations or an engineer to supervise this project. Kindly contact me ASAP.

The only help I can render for you in my own side is to give you my worker for agree fee btw you and him without my supervision as builder/engr.

I believed btw 350-450k they will get it done for you.
But my fear for them is that some of All these BABA are fetish.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:07pm On Jan 04, 2021
earthrealm:

Sweet.
Now imagine this stunning edifice with that horrifying steep roof with say 25 to 30ft king post.
Hideous would be an understatement..

Las las, it all boils down to taste, some like skinny women, some bonny flat chested, some medium, some thicc, some hippo like etc... All man to im taste

Word!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Thenext: 6:14pm On Jan 04, 2021
4 bedrooms duplex with 3 bedrooms semi detached. The building size is around 330sqm.

n3xt:


What’s the size of the building where you use 5200 blocks?

#justasking

I recently did foundation of 6 units of 2 bedroom semidetached bungalow and we only use 7,000 blocks for all.

We use 410 bags of cement for all the building.

______
Note: we didn’t do raft foundation o
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 6:23pm On Jan 04, 2021
I fear who no fear you oh!

I dove my hat for you, man. You know how to piece it all together to get the point home.

...but you had your hands full. It was an herculean task to get hold of you and get you to consult.

That is one thing i think some of you experienced hands should consider more and be open to. I understand the reluctance to take on jobs mid-way but y'all should be open to call-out consultancy services as SMEs, especially for client's oversight functions irrespective of whether there is a builder on the job or not.

But yeah,it is what it is. Gracias!

kobocity:


I had it included on my no. 10th build of this design (pic 1) which we first built in 2012.

My client in 2012 actually wanted something similar but we couldn’t push it through as I had to get on another project after delivering 2 carcass structure for him.

Unfortunately I don’t take construction pictures like before to show the build process but I can share the plans and need-to-knows - not here - on kobocity.com

_______

Megacontrol have something similar in one of his build too. I remembered he contacted me grin when he wanted to build the structure but...


_______

Pic 1: NextHome’s Detached Duplex Prototype designed in 2012 by brabus (3D model by Ihebrooke)

Pic 2: Construction picture of one of the model built in 2015

Pic 3: Building the penthouse in 2019 model

Pic 4: Pic from megacontrol’s project.


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 6:28pm On Jan 04, 2021
rotecch77:


The only help I can render for you in my own side is to give you my worker for agree fee btw you and him without my supervision as builder/engr.

I believed btw 350-450k they will get it done for you.
But my fear for them is that some of All these BABA are fetish.

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin
Rotecch won kill me with laff. Abeg, make your guys go do the job jo. This na money issue.

I have given jobs my blood brother could do to someone recommended by HajjiM. The charges were better with equal good jobs. I only compensated my brother with a 20k which is just a paltry of my savings.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:51pm On Jan 04, 2021
Focusmind:


I love this statement, Dijita. Michlins has now become a poster child of tenacity, sincerity, good works, iron and steel fabrication expert. It shows what resilience and self-belief could do. He was once bullied, his capacity doubted, even his mastery and efficient use of English as an artisan questioned. He didn't give up. He has shown utmost openness in the few works received via this forum. Well done Michllin. It is always good to allow your works to speak for you rather than your tongue.

I am owing Michlins jobs, I know I have welders but I can't wait to give him something big to do for us in a site soon. The guy has impressed me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Shegman22(m): 6:54pm On Jan 04, 2021
BuildingProject:


Like I have offended him during the festive period. Perhaps because I didn't buy him chicken. Can someone please suggest a good engineer to me to submit his own quotations or an engineer to supervise this project. Kindly contact me ASAP.
Am available.. Contact me on WhatsApp 08060891332
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Shegman22(m): 6:54pm On Jan 04, 2021
BuildingProject:


Like I have offended him during the festive period. Perhaps because I didn't buy him chicken. Can someone please suggest a good engineer to me to submit his own quotations or an engineer to supervise this project. Kindly contact me ASAP.
Am available.. Contact me on WhatsApp 08060891332
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ojeysky(m): 7:17pm On Jan 04, 2021
Enyinne:
No quantity is prohibited but for bulk buying using alibaba is cheaper as AliExpress is mainly resellers . For easy import, using a Nigerian agent in China is best that is if ur not buying up to 20ft or 40ft . So they ship it as groupage .
The manufacturing company will call them and state ur quantity and they will in return give u a shipping quote for ur consideration.
Pls make sure u know how to scan alibaba to avoid buying inferior goods .

Do you have a reliable one?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:27pm On Jan 04, 2021
folmus:


cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin
Rotecch won kill me with laff. Abeg, make your guys go do the job jo. This na money issue.

I have given jobs my blood brother could do to someone recommended by HajjiM. The charges were better with equal good jobs. I only compensated my brother with a 20k which is just a paltry of my savings.

Naa so, those people bad o, any way if the OP which to give them, then I will ask them to negotiate with him as I said.
God protection is the best.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:37pm On Jan 04, 2021
Thenext:
4 bedrooms duplex with 3 bedrooms semi detached. The building size is around 330sqm.


That’s humongous!

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