PatriotExact:
dat one no consign me

all I wan no na the time wey dat old puke will die. so that Nigeria can start building again.

Even the doctors in other fields are same,all the know is referral to other hospitals kilometers away.

Good one

Because they are Boring and are only Good at Boring holes...Na so one wey remove my tooth,carry pliers, puncher,screw driver and Small Hammer like say na motor engine him won work.

Broke nairalander's
How many of them can she'll out 130K to treat a tooth

Yep..!
Did extraction in NASS clinic located in NASS complex Abuja.
It's Govt Hospital but they have ALL the modern equipment you just enumerated with plenty Dentists on ground. Freshly fleshy ladies as Dentists to attend to me. In all....I paid NOTHING!!

But you must be connected o....to access the services.

Damian457:
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.

LUTH has better equipments. You need to explain what you mean by government hospital making it look like it's all government hospitals.

PDP paid you how much again?

Extraction is cheaper,2 to 5k will help you forget the pains.

Bbbwings:
Broke nairalander's
How many of them can she'll out 130K to treat a tooth

Bro. I am broke. Can you help me smile again?

Thanks

Damian457:
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.

patients deserve to know the treatment options available to them regardless. The fact that majority may not. be able to afford it or that they may not have access to the needed facilities does not justify your decision.

Till una comot all the 32......

I hope una sabi fit dentures...........

BoboNogoDie:
In Nigeria, we don't have doctors. What we have are either ignorant trial by error medical reps o hungry greedy veteran medical reps.

If you fall sick and you go to any so-called hospital in Nigeria, 90% of those reps will immediately place you on MALARIA and/or typhoid treatments without even conducting any tests. So many people people have been slowly killed and so many now have resistance for this malaria drugs.

The olodo ignorant dentists too will always result to extraction because that's the easiest approach.

Lazy People.

With all due respect, I think this is unjust.

You can't work beyond the facilities available to you.

The three factors OP mentioned aren't peculiar to tooth removal alone. Rather they affect all aspects of our healthcare.

How many Nigerians can afford the full test to to help doctors detect the true nature of the ailment.
Even if you can afford, facilities are scare. Test results take days or even weeks to get. I know someone who had to pay up to ten times more in a private hospital just because teaching hospitals had wasted up to three months of their life without any tangible result; you speak to a doctor today and the next appointment is next week. You need a test result before the next appointment and the test result takes two or three weeks to get ready.

When you're in an unfavourable condition, you work harder and get lesser output. And it's frustrating.

Well, I won't absolve them of all blame. The little crumbs our politicians give them for development end up in the pockets of the chief medical consultants/officers.

zedegit:


Bro. I am broke. Can you help me smile again?

Thanks

Just visit a dentist, he would put a smile on your face again........

My colleague in the office was having serious tooth pains and was on his way to hospital to remove the teeth, some one just suggested he should try native plant fast forward the guy went somewhere in nyanya abuja and the traditional medicine man just plug some leaves and ask him to chew it and gugle it in his mouth and throw it away, to my surprise three large worms came out from my guy mouth and the whole pains just disapear in less than two hour. The whole treatment cost him just 5 k meanwhile the hospital have billed him 15 k for tooth removal.

zedegit:


LUTH has better equipments. You need to explain what you mean by government hospital making it look like it's all government hospitals.

PDP paid you how much again?

Yeah because Luth is so much better, tell a kwaran to go to Lago's for treatment.

BoboNogoDie:
In Nigeria, we don't have doctors. What we have are either ignorant trial by error medical reps o hungry greedy veteran medical reps.

If you fall sick and you go to any so-called hospital in Nigeria, 90% of those reps will immediately place you on MALARIA and/or typhoid treatments without even conducting any tests. So many people people have been slowly killed and so many now have resistance for this malaria drugs.

The olodo ignorant dentists too will always result to extraction because that's the easiest approach.

Lazy People.

If after the detailed explanation by a professional, you still come on to type this. Then sorry to say, you're beyond redemption and that's putting it mildly

Asquare84:
My colleague in the office was having serious tooth pains and was on his way to hospital to remove the teeth, some one just suggested he should try native plant fast forward the guy went somewhere in nyanya abuja and the traditional medicine man just plug some leaves and ask him to chew it and gugle it in his mouth and throw it away, to my surprise three large worms came out from my guy mouth and the whole pains just disapear in less than two hour. The whole treatment cost him just 5 k meanwhile the hospital have billed him 15 k for tooth removal.

You always come back to us. This is an age old scam.

Both the government and Nigeria health practitioners are to be blamed here.

As far as I know, government has failed health wise.

And as far as I can tell, the Nigerian health practitioners don't do research or improvise and are over-reliant on government. I bet their tooth formula is still same as the one used in the 1950s. And it's all about money to most of them not passion or calling.

Tooth treatment shouldn't be rocket science as it is in Nigeria. I don't believe the costs are that much on other African or developing countries.

Sterope:
It is still irresponsible and unprofessional to suggest extraction. You owe your client that choice and your professionalism.

you obviously don't know what you're saying. A professional is supposed to suggest all options available and the patient will choose. In Nigeria, most of the patients opt for extraction outrightly even after been given the treatment options available. No Dentist will do an extraction without the INFORMED consent of the patient. Some of you just want to show yourselves whereas you're nothing.

lailo:
The Abokis are the reasons. Argue with ur keyboard



Modified
I first wrote Ab-okis but mod changed it to northerners. 20 years for that mod cos I no send u.

Inyamuri dodon doya with their trademark

GhostWisperer:
Both the government and Nigeria health practitioners are to be blame here.

As far as I know, government has failed health wise.

And as far as I can tell, the Nigerian health practitioners don't do research or improvise and are over-reliant on government. I bet their tooth formula is still same as the one used in the 1950s. And it's all about money to most of them not passion or calling.

Tooth treatment shouldn't be rocket science as it is in Nigeria. I don't believe the costs are that much on other African or developing countries.

lol.. Dental treatments are way more expensive in developed countries. You can Google it.

Nice piece sir

godstino:
lol.. Dental treatments are way more expensive in developed countries. You can Google it.

did you read "developed countries" anywhere in my post?

Why bring it up?

BoboNogoDie:
In Nigeria, we don't have doctors. What we have are either ignorant trial by error medical reps or hungry and greedy veteran medical reps.

If you fall sick and you go to any so-called hospital in Nigeria, 90% of those reps will immediately place you on MALARIA and/or typhoid treatments without even conducting any tests. So many people have been slowly killed and so many now have resistance for this malaria drugs.

The olodo ignorant dentists too will always result to extraction because that's the easiest approach.

Lazy People.

And what profession do you practise? Same way you criticise our healthcare professionals, can you point the same fingers at yourself and your profession.

Give these same doctors the opportunity, the environment, funding and equipments to excel as with their colleagues abroad and you see them perform.

The Nigerian doctors being praised in UK, US and Saudi just to mention a few, are they not products of our educational system?

That is not my experience and my family's experience of the Nigerian health care system.

From your article, there was no mention of offering that choice. What I see is how you assumed that because they can't afford one option, you offer the other one automatically.

You are part of the system. You can attack me all you like and delude yourself otherwise. It won't change my experience or others'. That was exactly what yesterday's thread showed.

godstino:
you obviously don't know what you're saying. A professional is supposed to suggest all options available and the patient will choose. In Nigeria, most of the patients opt for extraction outrightly even after been given the treatment options available. No Dentist will do an extraction without the INFORMED consent of the patient. Some of you just want to show yourselves whereas you're nothing.

GhostWisperer:
did you read "developed countries" anywhere in my post?

Why bring it up?

Tell us African countries you have been to and the cost of Dental treatment is way less than what you have here.

zedegit:


LUTH has better equipments. You need to explain what you mean by government hospital making it look like it's all government hospitals.

PDP paid you how much again?

You're ludicrous also your comment.
The OP was very right when he used government hospitals as example of poorly equipped facilities which they are. LUTH is a training center and does not qualify to be mentioned as a government hospital when decrying the ineptitude of governments. How many Lagos residents can afford the services in the LUTH or other teaching hospital in the country. He listed his defenses only for you to lump them together to defend your masters,typical of Stockholm's syndrome.

Sterope:
That is not my experience and my family's experience of the Nigerian health care system.

From your article, there was no mention of offering that choice. What I see is how you assumed that because they can't afford one option, you offer the other one automatically.

You are part of the system. You can attack me all you like and delude yourself otherwise. It won't change my experience or others'. That was exactly what yesterday's thread showed.

And you actually believe the Dentist would go straight to extraction without giving the other options to the patient? Anyways, if that's what you think, then it's okay.

What are you saying? Did you read my post? No Dentist will do a procedure without the INFORMED CONSENT of the patient.
Your Dentist must have suggested RCT as part of the treatment options but because you don’t have the money, you will always go for the cheaper option

Sterope:
That is not my experience and my family's experience of the Nigerian health care system.

From your article, there was no mention of offering that choice. What I see is how you assumed that because they can't afford one option, you offer the other one automatically.

You are part of the system. You can attack me all you like and delude yourself otherwise. It won't change my experience or others'. That was exactly what yesterday's thread showed.

Do you actually believe all Dentists are ethical?

godstino:
And you actually believe the Dentist would go straight to extraction without giving the other options to the patient? Anyways, if that's what you think, then it's okay.

godstino:
Tell us African countries you have been to and the cost of Dental treatment is way less than what you have here.

this one is just looking for clout and shifting the posts. No time on a Sunday bantering with a Nigerian dentist.

Afterall, Nigeria has one of the highest maternal mortality rates.

Deaths from snake bites

Malaria casualties

And one of the countries where doctors reject patients

Or ask for police report before treating gunshot victims.

Nah, they need internet validation more than they need reform and research.

Sterope:
Do you actually believe all Dentists are ethical?

No. But the Op yesterday erred when he said Nigeria Dentists suggest only extraction. That was a fallacy of hasty generalization.