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Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by COMPAQ(m): 2:13pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
humilitypays: The issue is how many people in Nigeria earn N1.2mln LEGITIMATELY? Probably not up to 100,000! Cos a Professor does not! I doubt Manager in even Zenith or GTB earns that much. I know an in law who is a DM in Zenith and she earns about N700k. I doubt anyone in civil service LEGITIMATELY earns that much - even Perm Sec. However, if one DOES earn that much, it is actually not bad by Nigerian standards and would be even better if earned outside of Lagos, Abuja and PH where housing in cheap and cost of living lower - such as Ibadan or Abeokuta or Enugu. That is very, very unlikely though, cos those types of locations have little to no industry that would pay that much. But going abroad goes beyond your salary and goes beyond today. It's also about tomorrow and your children. It's also about security (just one kidnap or robbery in Lagos traffic or encounter with herdsmen or bandits while travelling and your perspective may change), sanity (life in Nigeria just causes headache daily - from traffic to noise pollution to disorganized cities, to electricity) quality of life, quality education for kids (free, quality public schools and education that helps children to think and be creative, not the type here where you just cram and pass exams. Means your kids are more competitive for the future) and healthcare (just have a relatively serious illness in Nigeria, then your perspective may change) predictability (not just of salary or job, but also of political and infrastructural environment - knowing things will always work) The daily chaos of Nigeria just frustrates some people and they can't take it anymore. Many Nigerian's who grew up in Lagos, Aba, Onitsha etc think that level of disorganization is normal, so they never want anything better for themselves. if you were exposed to a sane life in the 70's and early 80's, the current Nigeria will tire you out. As people sometimes say, many Nigerian's don't know they are mad. It depends on what one considers a 'good' life and if you are willing to get it. If the madness of Oshodi and senseless traffic all over Lagos works for you....if the madness of Apapa for 10 years now is normal and acceptable to you as a way of life, then maybe you are the one with a problem of perception of what should be normal. 5 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Enifloxy(m): 2:15pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Princewill1: Your number 2, have you seen the business they open? The Lebanese e.t.c u mentioned. To start a small scale buisness in nigeria u need up to 2million naira. How will u save when your salary is 70k per month with transport on a high side, tin tomato 150 and a de rica of rice at 550. Pls I don't want to get upset. I can continue the analysis but..... 4 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by ModestGal(f): 2:18pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Kingstanding:Are you in Canada? |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by SIRTee15: 2:25pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
humilitypays: Significant number do the wife and children relocation thing while the main applicant remain in nigeria...esp oil company workers....that's what my FIL did. But the point remain people are leaving and has nothing to do with economic opportunities. It has more to do with future security... Let's be real...Nigeria's future prosperity is wrapped around international crude oil price. If that thing drops to less than 20 dollars per barrel....thats the official end of Nigeria. This country can't survive a significant drop in crude oil price...it will descend into anarchy, massive poverty, uncontrolled insecurity n possible civil war. And if u follow events in international media.. its only a matter of time crude oil goes the way of coal.... Some are ready to stay behind and take their chances...some are not. Not everyone is a risk taker. To each his own...No need castigating anybody. Thats my point. Personally, the only professional guys I'll advise to stay back in nigeria are the IT guys. If u are good and confident of your skills, live and work in nigeria but earn in dollars. That way, u are guaranteed of a stable income, spend less n can jump the ship anytime it's about to sink. 3 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by ModestGal(f): 2:25pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Enifloxy:Lol, he talks as if na for tree one go pluck money to start the business |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by SIRTee15: 2:36pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
planetx: U don't his full story...its possible he's on contract n there was no plan to renew. Its possible he secured another high paying job in Canada b4 leaving... I didn't bother to ask...I just wanted to know why he left despite a good job. I used him here to butress the point not everyone leaving are economic migrants. 2 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by nickvanilla(m): 2:38pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Focusmind: Some people feel that too many Nigerians moving into their location will end up spoiling the place. ![]() |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by IMASTEX: 2:43pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
humilitypays:Agreed. Though economic factor is the highest reasons for migration among Nigerians. Security is fast becoming another big reason, hence politicians & wealthy people keep their families abroad. If you earn 1 million in Nigeria, with just one adoption & ramsum paid, the person can remain in negative for long that is if he made it alive. Outside that, sustainability from whatever that is bringing in the cash is also at risk all the time. Even worse when it is an employee work, i.e. oil company staff, etc. We all know the level of sack. . . And the chances of ever getting such highly paid job again. If it is in business, that one is another new level of risk. With no government or system in place to come to rescue. Lastly, if the system favours you as an individual perhaps because of luck or few connection, what happens to the children, what will be their own fate? 3 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by COMPAQ(m): 2:45pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
SIRTee15: Very well analyzed. Common petrol and electricity subsidy removal and Nigerians want to cry to the roof due to poverty. Yet government cannot really afford it, but because of fear, they continue it and even borrow USD to balance the budget, But for a country that will have much lower USD revenues in the future, where will dollar to pay all the loans come from? Lower dollar revenues then means exchange rate will continue to worsen, especially as population skyrockets and we will have to import to continue catering to them and continue subsidizing as well. Most of these extra 50mln kids will not go to school worth calling a school, have poor education and then become sources of insecurity and the cycle continues endlessly because government cannot break it!! If that is not worth escaping Nigeria for, i don't know what is. Besides, that cycle has started already. It's what you are seeing in kidnapping, militancy, boko haram, herdsmen killing, cattle rustling, violent armed robbery, minor armed robbery etc and it will only get worse cos government has zero capacity to break the cycle. When touts in Mushin. oshodi, yaba etc are able to over power entire police stations with ease during EndSARS, then you should know that this country is on a time bomb 2 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
But the rich nigerians are they living in nigeria? Does dangote permanently live in nigeria? What of atiku? Or many of our Caleb's? Even davido when chioma was about giving birth he rushed her to the US to give birth Ppl will always travel no matter what be it for economical benefit or just for tourism What we should condemn is human trafficking and illegal immigration and not migration per se.if u want to travel then have a clear cut plan in what u want to do there before planning ur trip. 1 Like |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by humilitypays(m): 2:49pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
SIRTee15:In as much as I desperately and seriously wish for Nigeria's economy to be diversified beyond crude oil sales, saying that if crude oil sells below $20 per barrel will lead to economy doom in Nigeria is a very big FAT LIE and I will take my time to explain it to you. First, Nigeria's economy is never dependent on crude oil sales because the crude oil proceeds revolve around the pockets of few government officials and their looting gangs. Nigeria will budget 1 Trillion this year, 500billion for Lagos-Ibadan road, Kano-Kaduna rd, Abuja-Kaduna rd, Enugu-Portharcourt road, Onitsha-Enugu road, etc....and at the end of the year, none of these roads gets constructed at all......they end up spending less than a billion on these projects it was mapped out for. So when Nigeria budgets 1 Trillion Naira.....most times, less than 200billion is used to execute substandard projects in Nigeria, the rest of the money is looted and moved abroad by government officials to countries like UK, US, Germany, France, etc. What has been sustaining Nigeria's economy and Nigeria are: 1.) Nigerians and their hardworking nature - do you know how many Nigerians in Diaspora remitting hard currencies to the tune of billions back to Nigeria annually ![]() 2.) Nigerian drug traffickers and Yahoo Guys - yes we condemn them, we call them all sorts of names but these guys bring back huge FOREX back to the Nigerian economy, so much more than even your so called crude oil that gets looted by the elite politicians 3.) Nigerian Freelance Workers - it will shock you to know that these guys bring back huge FOREX to the Nigerian economy more than those yeye Agriculture corrupt Nigerian governments had been using to scam Nigerians since 1990 ![]() 4.) Sportsmen and women - these set of Nigerians no doubt contribue immensely in Nigeria's FOREX income, thereby keeping Nigeria running Crude oil is a big curse to Nigeria if you don't know. It is the major reason Boko Haram was created and the only reason Boko Haram have not been defeated after 11 years running. Let Nigeria's crude oil dry up and watch Boko Haram shield their sword and embrace peace as their political sponsors in the North and in the Nigerian Army will know that no more huge billions to siphon through Boko Haram insurgency. Fulani herdsmen from all parts of Africa and invading Nigeria and causing insecurity and tension in Nigeria all because of crude oil...... Crude oil is not what is running Nigeria's economy, our population and talent (both illegal and legal talents) are the reason Nigeria have not turned to Bangladesh and will never turn to such no matter what. 2 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by letskeeptalking: 2:52pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Princewill1: The two points above are contradictory. You claim Nigerians spend 8mil and above to relocate, this means they are not poor to begin with. Why then do you think they are relocating for economic reasons? 2 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Nobody: 2:53pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Misterdhee1: I know that, I'm arguing against people who say they're loaded but prefer abroad. |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by cococandy(f): 2:55pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
post=97939464:how would I know bro? 1 Like |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by humilitypays(m): 2:58pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
IMASTEX:Na only insecurity de fear me for Naija, nothing else ![]() ![]() If we can have good security of lives and properties in Nigeria, my brother I can boldly tell you that Nigeria is second paradise ![]() ![]() |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by ednut1(m): 2:58pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
planetx:he should wait till he is laid off ba. Chevron, shell and many oil companies have laid off many of their staff of recent. Let them japa 2 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 2:59pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
mayorlag:Hahha you are very funny so you reduce your prayers because tax is paying it. |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 3:01pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
VeeVeeMyLuv:Give me example of international certificate course abeg |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Kingstanding: 3:01pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
ModestGal:Yep |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 3:04pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Kokaine:So please just imagine a country where even a billionaire is not save what of a common man? Do you mean somebody should work hard and build investments and wait for bokoharma to come and destroy it? There is noting in this world compare to a peace of mind, I will rather relocate for my mental health and wellness happiness not to gather all this useless money that will be nothing at the end 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by bmdonthemix1: 3:05pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
tatatar:very very off |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 3:05pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Kingstanding:How much is the salary of a permanent sectary |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 3:07pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
bigtt76: |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 3:08pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
streetwise2015:Lol I noticed this last week I wear one fine clothes I saw someone staring at me 1 Like |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Hassanmaye(m): 3:17pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
No amount of rubbish Typed here can stop from relocating outside Nigeria, do you mean I should make money then bokoharma should come and kill me? Or I should rely on generator for the rest of my life? A country where to get a loan 200k even if you are working seems like a favour to you, just 200k o, and they know you will pay with your salary and interest on top but it's a favor Mtwwwww 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by inyanging: 3:21pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
We4all: Those countries u plan u envied & plan of spending ur life were not developed by some pole like u? Thank God most of my friends abroad knows very well that the owners the countries preferred/like African living I. their countries than those coming to beg for Crumb's And truly most of African ate unable to return the their countries BC of mean, but also BC of shame that those they left at home are far way better than them in all aspect . The world is a football field the moment u score u will be applauded no matter which position u are' |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by mayorlag: 3:25pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
Hassanmaye: ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Focusmind: 3:32pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
nickvanilla: Very correct. ![]() As a former student in UK, I avoided my countrymen in the library most times and hardly attended major Nigerian gatherings. Issues, in fighting and shouting matches usually happened there. 2 Likes |
Re: Canada Hype And Travel Rush: Here Are Things You Need To Know by Jethrosam(m): 3:34pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
True talk,nigeria,japa very soon.i would have if not 4 d spritual attack from,the inlaw side. ![]() |
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