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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:04pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
it not about famzing average player, is Elneny better than Gendouzi? Average players get level, i beg.

Well, you said MG best game is spurs? Haah, remember he was a regular under Emery that season wen we miss top4 by a point, guess spurs is the only team we played then?


Elneny will only thrive when the team play is conservative/denfensively setup i.e all 11 players defending e.g. City and Man Utd games. How did he fare when the team is proactive like against brighton,burnley? committing needless foul and turning ball over in dangerous area.

Let see how it goes.
Emery’s first season Guen wasn’t a regular in the best spell of that season. He was coming in from bench at best. Immediately the likes of Ramsey and co bagged injuries 2nd half of that season and Guen became a starter that was the beginning of the end for Emery go watch that season well.

There’s nothing spectacular about Guen at Arsenal at least. We can’t be complaining about average players and be propping Guen as a replacement. And don’t bring his age to the mix Saka , Smith and Martinelli are younger and pulling their weight.

I am sure if we put the likes of Saka and Martinelli on the market for a permanent transfer or a loan move, top Cubs will want to snap them up. For all the Guen hype he had to settle for a loan move to a bottom half club in Bundeliga.

Arsenal is not a player building organization, look at what we got despite all the patience with Walcott, the last time he faced us he scored with a grin on his face. He didn’t remember the patience we had, look at Giroud in the Europa final against us too, someone Wenger should have binned teytey. These players should contribute effectively or move on please. We can’t be building players at the detriment of results.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MSGAMBLE9: 1:28pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:

Emery’s first season Guen wasn’t a regular in the best spell of that season. He was coming in from bench at best. Immediately the likes of Ramsey and co bagged injuries 2nd half of that season and Guen became a starter that was the beginning of the end for Emery go watch that season well.

There’s nothing spectacular about Guen at Arsenal at least. We can’t be complaining about average players and be propping Guen as a replacement. And don’t bring his age to the mix Saka , Smith and Martinelli are younger and pulling their weight.

I am sure if we put the likes of Saka and Martinelli on the market for a permanent transfer or a loan move, top Cubs will want to snap them up. For all the Guen hype he had to settle for a loan move to a bottom half club in Bundeliga.

Arsenal is not a player building organization, look at what we got despite all the patience with Walcott, the last time he faced us he scored with a grin on his face. He didn’t remember the patience we had, look at Giroud in the Europa final against us too, someone Wenger should have binned teytey. These players should contribute effectively or move on please. We can’t be building players at the detriment of results.
On Ramsey issue, yes he was injured buh wen he came back toward feb. ending he was struggling for gametime that the issue was a reoccurring question for Emery's pre & post match conference and that is part the reason (couple with wage palava) the club felt he was replaceable. Yeah, MG was that good then.

It not about building players, MG is a "better average player" than Elneny. Big teams with bigger ambitions like Atlectico, Bayern, dortmund and PSG were credited with insterest buh covid and other position priortisation crippled their finance.


No sane manager would pick ME over MG.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:34pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
On Ramsey issue, yes he was injured buh wen he came back toward feb. ending he was struggling for gametime that the issue was a reoccurring question for Emery's pre & post match conference and that is part the reason (couple with wage palava) the club felt he was replaceable. Yeah, MG was that good then.

It not about building players, MG is a "better average player" than Elneny. Big teams with bigger ambitions like Atlectico, Bayern, dortmund and PSG were credited with insterest buh covid and other position priortisation crippled their finance.


No sane manager would pick ME over MG.
I won't buy your last line.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:41pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:

Emery’s first season Guen wasn’t a regular in the best spell of that season. He was coming in from bench at best. Immediately the likes of Ramsey and co bagged injuries 2nd half of that season and Guen became a starter that was the beginning of the end for Emery go watch that season well.

There’s nothing spectacular about Guen at Arsenal at least. We can’t be complaining about average players and be propping Guen as a replacement. And don’t bring his age to the mix Saka , Smith and Martinelli are younger and pulling their weight.

I am sure if we put the likes of Saka and Martinelli on the market for a permanent transfer or a loan move, top Cubs will want to snap them up. For all the Guen hype he had to settle for a loan move to a bottom half club in Bundeliga.

Arsenal is not a player building organization, look at what we got despite all the patience with Walcott, the last time he faced us he scored with a grin on his face. He didn’t remember the patience we had, look at Giroud in the Europa final against us too, someone Wenger should have binned teytey. These players should contribute effectively or move on please. We can’t be building players at the detriment of results.
Let's take it that Guen has been shitt all this while, but you can't deny that his game has improved this season with H. Berlin. Whether this translates to the PL is a different discussion.

Brother, sometimes you have to grade players according to their level. Expecting an average yo-man like Guen to grow up in the same life with Iniesta is just being overboard with your expectations. Please leave Walcott alone, he is no Christiano Ronaldo. If you want a CR type, bring your money, plenty money. That's how those who have him got him, not by expecting a Walcott to turn Christiano by force simply because you gave him one year contract extension.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
On Ramsey issue, yes he was injured buh wen he came back toward feb. ending he was struggling for gametime that the issue was a reoccurring question for Emery's pre & post match conference and that is part the reason (couple with wage palava) the club felt he was replaceable. Yeah, MG was that good then.

It not about building players, MG is a "better average player" than Elneny. Big teams with bigger ambitions like Atlectico, Bayern, dortmund and PSG were credited with insterest buh covid and other position priortisation crippled their finance.


No sane manager would pick ME over MG.
So COVID didn’t cripple Hertha’s finance but crippled the finance of Athletico, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, World Bank, NYSE, LSE and World Trade Centre Keep telling yourself what makes you sleep at night
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jan 14, 2021
Spy360:

Let's take it that Guen has been shitt all this while, but you can't deny that his game has improved this season with H. Berlin. Whether this translates to the PL is a different discussion.

Brother, sometimes you have to grade players according to their level. Expecting an average yo-man like Guen to grow up in the same life with Iniesta is just being overboard with your expectations. Please leave Walcott alone, he is no Christiano Ronaldo. If you want a CR type, bring your money, plenty money. That's how those who have him got him, not by expecting a Walcott to turn Christiano by force simply because you gave him one year contract extension.

Which means we are saying same thing, we can’t be giving the club the stick for being stingy, buying average players and also sticking with them and on the other hand we go ahead propping players like Guen who are equally average. The players are not playing for free and stop making it seem they are doing Arsenal a favour by getting on the pitch. It’s a symbiotic relationship bro.

We should be thinking of offloading players like Elneny and Xhaka for better players and not someone like Guen that’s my point. We need fresh air in that midfield.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:08pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:


Which means we are saying same thing, we can’t be giving the club the stick for being stingy, buying average players and also sticking with them and on the other hand we go ahead propping players like Guen who are equally average. The players are not playing for free and stop making it seem they are doing Arsenal a favour by getting on the pitch. It’s a symbiotic relationship bro.

We should be thinking of offloading players like Elneny and Xhaka for better players and not someone like Guen that’s my point. We need fresh air in that midfield.
I get your point.

Mine is that if our board is not ready to spend to get top players then we should make do with the Guen's of this world and love them like you love your ekuke dog. smiley

UNCONDITIONALLY grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jan 14, 2021
Spy360:

I get your point.

Mine is that if our board is not ready to spend to get top players then we should make do with the Guen's of this world and love them like you love your ekuke dog. smiley

UNCONDITIONALLY grin
Shey u know, if I choke and die of this laughter u triggered I will wait for u at Heaven’s gate.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MSGAMBLE9: 4:23pm On Jan 14, 2021
Spy360:

I won't buy your last line.
Opinion may differ, buh if you think the average players will just dissappear with the current club budget... From Fabregas to Ramsey to Ceballos or From Gilberto to Song to Xhaka is a reflection of their current standing. Use the best of your Lot.

If you think average player will just dissappear for marquee signing...


I will say keep dreaming.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:26pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
Opinion may differ, buh if you think the average players will just dissappear with the current club budget... From Fabregas to Ramsey to Ceballos or From Gilberto to Song to Xhaka is a reflection of their current standing. Use the best of your Lot.

If you think average player will just dissappear for marquee signing...


I will say keep dreaming.
Bros what you stated here is different from saying no 'sane' manager will choose Elneny ahead of Guen as you claim. Elneny right now is better than Guendouzi has ever been. Guen could turn out an Iniesta tomorrow but right now, he is less preferable than Elneny. #Fact
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:40pm On Jan 14, 2021
Team Arteta must use to beat Crystal Palace


Auba............. Laca.............. Saka
....................... ESR.......................
......... Xhaka...............Partey........
Tierney... Gabriel... Luiz... Bellerin
....................... Leno......................

Subs: Macey, Mari, Holding, Soares, AMN*, Ceballos, Elneny*, Willian, Nketiah, Balogun, Pepe*, Nelson

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MSGAMBLE9: 6:44pm On Jan 14, 2021
Spy360:

Bros what you stated here is different from saying no 'sane' manager will choose Elneny ahead of Guen as you claim. Elneny right now is better than Guendouzi has ever been. Guen could turn out an Iniesta tomorrow but right now, he is less preferable than Elneny. #Fact
that why i say opinion may differ...Elneny beign better than MG is "YOUR FACT" not mine and only time will tell. Remember he was dropped for disciplinary action not footballing reasons... Elneny?.

I could remember many Arsenal fans on twitter and FB saying Ceballos is an upgrade on Ramsey after his first 3 games (especially Burnley), i disagreed then despite him winning Man of the match consecutively then.


Let wait and see.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:12pm On Jan 14, 2021
Spy360:
Team Arteta must use to beat Crystal Palace


Auba............. Laca.............. Saka
....................... ESR.......................
......... Xhaka...............Partey........
Tierney... Gabriel... Luiz... Bellerin
....................... Leno......................

Subs: Macey, Mari, Holding, Soares, AMN*, Ceballos, Elneny*, Willian, Nketiah, Balogun, Pepe*, Nelson
I think partey will come from bench. (Elneny)

Also, I think it'll be Mari and Luiz Manning the Cb spots

Aside that, all other players are straight forward
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:18pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
that why i say opinion may differ...Elneny beign better than MG is "YOUR FACT" not mine and only time will tell. Remember he was dropped for disciplinary action not footballing reasons... Elneny?.

I could remember many Arsenal fans on twitter and FB saying Ceballos is an upgrade on Ramsey after his first 3 games (especially Burnley), i disagreed then despite him winning Man of the match consecutively then.


Let wait and see.

Chairman this Ur talk no follow.

Which one is " Elneny being better than Guendouzi is Ur fact not mine "?

Are u sure it's the matches of Arsenal FC of England u normally watch and not that of FC Arsenal Tula of Russia? Somebody just told u how most times Guendouzi runs around the field marking the player with the ball with his eyes and not his legs, always doing less in midfield while our midfield is being overrun and defenders being exposed unnecessarily on the pitch ; u are saying that is "his own fact". How?

Everyone acknowledges how Elneny has greatly improved from the FA cup final not until he had a bad game against Brighton. That is what all objective minds see on the pitch. Now saying "No sane manager will take that same Elneny ahead of Guendouzi " just dey somehow. I don't even know how to describe how it sounds sef
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MSGAMBLE9: 7:49pm On Jan 14, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Chairman this Ur talk no follow.

Which one is " Elneny being better than Guendouzi is Ur fact not mine "?

Are u sure it's the matches of Arsenal FC of England u normally watch and not that of FC Arsenal Tula of Russia? Somebody just told u how most times Guendouzi runs around the field marking the player with the ball with his eyes and not his legs, always doing less in midfield while our midfield is being overrun and defenders being exposed unnecessarily on the pitch ; u are saying that is "his own fact". How?

Everyone acknowledges how Elneny has greatly improved from the FA cup final not until he had a bad game against Brighton. That is what all objective minds see on the pitch. Now saying "No sane manager will take that same Elneny ahead of Guendouzi " just dey somehow. I don't even know how to describe how it sounds sef
That is why i say YOUR FACT not mine.

You talk about FA cup final where all the 11player were defending...how did he fare in any of the game where the team play proactive e.g. Burnley, Brighton even against Newcastle last weekend (where Amillron was barging him whenever Toons attack)...One bad game?


My own is Elneny can never be on MG level. Arteta chose his ego over the team by ostracizing and frozen-out some player e.g. Ozil, MG.


Let wait and see now. Time will tell whether it's Arsenal Tula.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:56pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
That is why i say YOUR FACT not mine.

You talk about FA cup final where all the 11player were defending...how did he fare in any of the game where the team play proactive e.g. Burnley, Brighton even against Newcastle last weekend (where Amillron was barging him whenever Toons attack)...One bad game?


My own is Elneny can never be on MG level. Arteta chose his ego over the team by ostracizing and frozen-out some player e.g. Ozil, MG.


Let wait and see now. Time will tell whether it's Arsenal Tula.
This guy na real Guen Stan.

Na your opinion bro, you done win grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:02pm On Jan 14, 2021
Holding Luiz starting??

Na wa oo
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jan 14, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Chairman this Ur talk no follow.

Which one is " Elneny being better than Guendouzi is Ur fact not mine "?

Are u sure it's the matches of Arsenal FC of England u normally watch and not that of FC Arsenal Tula of Russia? Somebody just told u how most times Guendouzi runs around the field marking the player with the ball with his eyes and not his legs, always doing less in midfield while our midfield is being overrun and defenders being exposed unnecessarily on the pitch ; u are saying that is "his own fact". How?

Everyone acknowledges how Elneny has greatly improved from the FA cup final not until he had a bad game against Brighton. That is what all objective minds see on the pitch. Now saying "No sane manager will take that same Elneny ahead of Guendouzi " just dey somehow. I don't even know how to describe how it sounds sef
You are arguing with someone that said Guen was the key to Emery’s 1 point away from top four in his first season. He went ahead to say “he was that good”

I stopped engaging him after that statement
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MSGAMBLE9: 8:06pm On Jan 14, 2021
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by MSGAMBLE9: 8:06pm On Jan 14, 2021
Jodera:
This guy na real Guen Stan.

Na your opinion bro, you done win grin
And i respek yours as well.



Time will tell (like in the case of Ramsey-Ceballos).


We see who the PROPHET is, my friend.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:07pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:

You are arguing with someone that said Guen was the key to Emery’s 1 point away from top four in his first season. He went ahead to say “he was that good”

I stopped engaging him after that statement
Lol... As if you know.

As I saw your points and saw his rebuttals for guen, I know this wan na strong guen fan. Like nothing you'll say will change his mind, I just left him to his guen
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:09pm On Jan 14, 2021
Jodera:
I think partey will come from bench. (Elneny)

Also, I think it'll be Mari and Luiz Manning the Cb spots

Aside that, all other players are straight forward
Mari has been very good and decent so far but Gabriel is the better player.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:09pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
And i respek yours as well.

Time will tell (like in the case of Ramsey-Ceballos).


We see who the PROPHET is!
Whether guen turns well or not wen he returns, I'm not debating it.

Like I said before, if he returns in improved form, I'll be very happy. What I'm just saying is that the guen that left arsenal for Hertha is not better than this present elneny. That has been most of our points
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:09pm On Jan 14, 2021
Spy360:

Mari has been very good and decent so far but Gabriel is the better player.
None started
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:11pm On Jan 14, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... As if you know.

As I saw your points and saw his rebuttals for guen, I know this wan na strong guen fan. Like nothing you'll say will change his mind, I just left him to his guen
Where did that moniker crawl out from? I don’t want to believe that’s Fkhalifa’s alternate
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:11pm On Jan 14, 2021
MSGAMBLE9:
That is why i say YOUR FACT not mine.

You talk about FA cup final where all the 11player were defending...how did he fare in any of the game where the team play proactive e.g. Burnley, Brighton even against Newcastle last weekend (where Amillron was barging him whenever Toons attack)...One bad game?


My own is Elneny can never be on MG level. Arteta chose his ego over the team by ostracizing and frozen-out some player e.g. Ozil, MG.


Let wait and see now. Time will tell whether it's Arsenal Tula.

While u are trying to push Ur agenda u forgot the Chelsea match just few weeks ago. Abi u no watch the match or Arteta was also playing defensive in that game too and Elneny did not hit the crossbar with a powerful shot in that same match ?That match alone has torn to shreds Ur talks about defensive nonsense.

Saying stuff like “Elneny can never be on Guendozi level” is just laughable grin

Why do I even think u are one of those guys we dragged during Good Ebening era trying to make a comeback by pointing out to what Guendouzi is doing in the slow paced Bundesliga ?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:13pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:

You are arguing with someone that said Guen was the key to Emery’s 1 point away from top four in his first season. He went ahead to say “he was that good”

I stopped engaging him after that statement

Now I just reason am , I think he’s one of those Good Ebening fan boys. He's trying to sell us one of Good Ebening's prized assets grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 8:14pm On Jan 14, 2021
Jodera:
This guy na real Guen Stan.

Na your opinion bro, you done win grin
He they disguise na Solomon grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:14pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:

Where did that moniker crawl out from? I don’t want to believe that’s Fkhalifa’s alternate
grin grin grin...
Sha, it's his opinion. Nobody is committing crime for having an opinion so let him just enjoy his guen better than elneny
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:15pm On Jan 14, 2021
sod09:

He they disguise na Solomon grin
lol... True!!

I've forgotten him sef.

It might be him oo
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 8:15pm On Jan 14, 2021
kokanepyramid:

Where did that moniker crawl out from? I don’t want to believe that’s Fkhalifa’s alternate
Be like na Solomon
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 8:16pm On Jan 14, 2021
Jerry curl way Mia khalifa use catch cruise grin cheesy grin

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