reyscrub:


Are you for real or something else needs to be put in place?

What an arrant nonsense from your gut

You sound really pissed? Take it easy, my friend.

forgiveness:


Which magical power? That's the account after Benin conquered Eko. Did you read the account before Benin came?

What are you talking about ?
Let me explain how history works:

History depends on eye-witness accounts.
Eye-witness accounts are recorded on paper by people who witnessed the period of time with their own eyes.
Whatever you claim, you must produse an eye-witness account for it.

I know you guys are teenagers and that nigeria has never been good at historical studies and nigeria is even worse now that history was banned from schools for more than a decade. But the level of delusion and stupidity is annoying. At least have some modesty and stop acting as if you know everything. The average nigerian is functionnally an illiterate in history. But the worse is that he believes he is a genius in history.

nocomment2:

Allafin of Oyo is a direct lineage of Oranmiyan, Sango from Nupe is a son of Oranmiyan, Oba of Benin is a lineage of Oranmiyan so how it is a fiction go to Nupe land, they will show you history place and site where Sango had wars, even in Ile ife , is just like saying Usman danfodio Never led a jihadist war and it was a fiction

nocomment2:


Please stop saying nonesense, in this paper it is very well explained that "ouyos" stands for "Jos" which we call ijaw today.
Also it's weird you didn't find it starnage that oyo people would be pirates, oyo are lnadlocked people who had no presence near the sea. ijaw are still pirates today.

The fact is you don't understand the text because you don't speak french and you also lack common sense.

From where did Ijaw invade Eko? I want to know their location as at then.

jneutron4000:
Allafin of Oyo is a direct lineage of Oranmiyan, Sango from Nupe is a son of Oranmiyan, Oba of Benin is a lineage of Oranmiyan so how it is a fiction go to Nupe land, they will use you history place and site where Sango had wars, is just like saying Usman danfodio Never led a jihadist war and it was a fiction

Reply:

jneutron4000:
Allafin of Oyo is a direct lineage of SUPERMAN, Sango from Nupe is a son of SUPERMAN, Oba of Benin is a lineage of SUPERMAN so how it is a fiction go to Nupe land, they will use you history place and site where Sango had wars, is just like saying Usman danfodio Never led a jihadist war and it was a fiction

jneutron4000:
Allafin of Oyo is a direct lineage of SPIDERMAN, Sango from Nupe is a son of SPIDERMAN, Oba of Benin is a lineage of SPIDERMAN so how it is a fiction go to Nupe land, they will use you history place and site where Sango had wars, is just like saying Usman danfodio Never led a jihadist war and it was a fiction

Also, sango is a fictional character, he also never existed.

jneutron4000:
Eweka dynasty started the Obaship though Oranmiyan stayed in Benin but he did not stay too long

Google the first Oba of Benin and the result will be Oranmiyam.

forgiveness:


From where did Ijaw invade Eko? I want to know their location as at then.

what the hell are you talking about ?

nocomment2:


oranmiyan is like fatherchristmass, he was made up in a story.
ife is a village and the story around ife was made up, the oni is just a priest of a village, the only link between ife and Benin empire would exist is ife was a village under Benin empire.

Why won't Oranmiyan be a made up story? Is it because doesnt favour your account of the story? Listen, without Oranmiyan(a Yoruba Oba) there will never have been Oba in Igodomigodo kingdom...na Ogiso chief go dey

forgiveness:


Google the first Oba of Benin and the result will be Oranmiyam.

the problem si that google doesn't know everything, you see google is not a magician, it can not do time travel nor can it answer questions on its own, rather google directs you to a text written by someone and in this case a fairytale written by a person who was cluelsess about this topic.

Unclekayfarms:

Why won't Oranmiyan be a made up story, without Oranmiyan(a Yoruba Oba) there will never have been Oba in Igodomigodo kingdom.

There was no igodomigodo.
The first time anybody was refferred to as Oba it was the Oba of Benin.
Yoruba chiefs started copying the name Oba while in the colonial era specifically in the 1930's when the ooni of ife copied it as a replacement for the word "sir".

Nigeriabiafra80:

Are you an addict to porn
Or you masturbate with this pix
What make you have this in your possession
As in
Is it hatred?
Or sexual arousal

Can that dry bonga fish woman with cherry boobs and bonny structure arouse you? I hate shameless old rag, I can't keep that for any other reason apart from pure hatred.

nocomment2:


the problem si that google doesn't know everything, you see google is not a magician, it can not do time travel nor can it answer questions on its own, rather google directs you to a text written by someone and in this case a fairytale written by a person who was cluelsess about this topic.

Didnt Oba of Benin said it in a broadcast that Oranmiyan is recognized as the first Oba of Benin? Go and watch his coronation video.

Go and read the Ogiemien story of Igodomigodo and finally Yoruba's account of Benin history.

nocomment2:

There was no igodomigodo.
The first time anybody was refferred to as Oba it was the Oba of Benin.
Yoruba chiefs started copying the name Oba while in the colonial era specifically in the 1930's when the ooni of ife copied it as a replacement for the word "sir".

There was Obatala linage in Ife long before Oduduwa. He was an Oba in Ife.

Shut the poor story they're feeding you by igodomigodo descendants.

The first person to mention Ile ibinu (Benin) was Oranmiyan

nocomment2:

There was no igodomigodo.
The first time anybody was refferred to as Oba it was the Oba of Benin.
Yoruba chiefs started copying the name Oba while in the colonial era specifically in the 1930's when the ooni of ife copied it as a replacement for the word "sir".

Funny u but the first person to ever be Oba of Benin was a Yoruba man

Unclekayfarms:

Didnt Oba of Benin said it in a broadcast that Oranmiyan is recognized as the first Oba of Benin? Go and watch his coronation video.

Go and read the Ogiemien story of Igodomigodo and finally Yoruba's account of Benin history.

1) history doesn't work like that, it is not about people's claims, it is about eye-witness accounts
2) The Oba of Benin said: "We believe oduduwa was the son of the king of Benin who got exiled and oranmiyan was his son who came back to rule".
3) the ogiamien are a bunch of scam artists who keep making unsubstantiated claimes, once again: it is about eye-witness accounts, not about mere claims.
4) the "yorubas" account of Benin history: you have got to be joking. Since when does Benin history belong to the yorubas ?
Should I go and ask sokoto about yoruba history ? This is just absurd. And once again, it is about eye-witness accounts, not about claims. though it is weird that you can't see that the yorubas are being predatorial in trying to rewrite an other man's history. Whatever metric you take, the history of Benin is not a yoruba belonging.

Edo miscreants on rampage again...


Cc TAO11

nocomment2:


Reply:





Also, sango is a fictional character, he also never existed.

I don hear, I no get time to argue.

Unclekayfarms:

There was Obatala linage in Ife long before Oduduwa. He was an Oba in Ife.

Shut the poor story they're feeding you by igodomigodo descendants.

The first person to mention Ile ibinu (Benin) was Oranmiyan

All your claims are fairytales with no proof to back them.
igodomigodo is fictional, oranmiyan is fictional, ile ibinu is fictional, obatala is fictional. You reason like a toddler.

Balogunodua:
Edo miscreants on rampage again...


Cc TAO11

Yeah telling the truth surely does make me a miscreant. You guys would rather have everybody being hooked on fake history which you keep trying to push on the gullible. I see the dog (you) has called for his moronic scam artistis master.

nocomment2:

There was no igodomigodo.
The first time anybody was refferred to as Oba it was the Oba of Benin.
Yoruba chiefs started copying the name Oba while in the colonial era specifically in the 1930's when the ooni of ife copied it as a replacement for the word "sir".

Edo miscreant aren't you ashamed of disgracing youself over and over again...after your lies have been bursted so many times on this forum you still kept on disgracing your ancestors....

IamWonderful:
Can that dry bonga fish woman with cherry boobs and bonny structure arouse you? I hate shameless old rag, I can't keep that for any other reason apart from pure hatred.

Why keeping his nude pix

nocomment2:


Yeah telling the truth surely does make me a miscreant. You guys would rather have everybody being hooked on fake history which you keep trying to push on the gullible. I see the dog (you) has called for his moronic master.

What truth is that

Balogunodua:


What truth is that

All that I have said.

nocomment2:


1) history doesn't work like that, it is not about people's claims, it is about eye-witness accounts
2) The Oba of Benin said: "We believe oduduwa was the son of the king of Benin who got exiled and oranmiyan was his son who came back to rule".
3) the ogiamien are a bunch of scam artists who keep making unsubstantiated claimes, once again: it is about eye-witness accounts, not about mere claims.
4) the "yorubas" account of Benin history: you have got to be joking. Since when does Benin history belong to the yorubas ?
Should I go and ask sokoto about yoruba history ? This is just absurd. And once again, it is about eye-sitness accounts, not about calims. though it is weird that you can't see that the yorubas are being predatorial in trying to rewrite an other man's history. whatever w*metric you take, the history of Benin is not a yoruba belonging.

Oranmiyan was never the son of Oduduwa. Oduduwa had only one son, he is Okanbi.

Oranmiyan was a warrior that won the war from Ife to Igodomigodo kingdom.

The original Benin people are Ife migrants that migrated to Benin, which Oranmiyan ruled over.

Benin used to be in Igodomigodo before Benin overshadowed the Igodomigodo.

Who are you to call Ogimien the family of the last Ogiso scam? If you remove Yoruba from Edo state, it will become Igodomigodo not Benin anymore. FACT

nocomment2:


All your claims are fairytales with no proof to back them.
igodomigodo is fictional, oranmiyan is fictional, ile ibinu is fictional, obatala is fictional. You reason like a toddler.

Oranmiyan & Eweka are enough prove why Oba of Benin are still in existence today Benin

nocomment2:


Yeah telling the truth surely does make me a miscreant. You guys would rather have everybody being hooked on fake history which you keep trying to push on the gullible. I see the dog (you) has called for his moronic scam artistis master.

The scam artist that disgraced your ancestors and made you deleted your account because of shame...you are a coward that is why you kept creating different account to spread your not sellable lies...

Christistruth00:


If it was Conquest Benin would own the Land at Isale Eko they don't the Awori Yoruba do

Oba of Lagos was King of the Lagos Slave and European Markets

He was a Babaloja

Benin didn't come to own, they came to have control over the water.

Christistruth00:


Isale Eko is the Area between Idumota Market to Obalende. Oba of Lagos influence doesn't reach beyond there and the Land the Markets are on belongs to the Aromire Awori Yoruba family

Rubbish there was only one paramount ruler in Lagos when the British invaded lagos in 1850
Was the oba of lagos, who controlled the entire lagos, because his influence was little or not felt in some areas doesn't mean he wasnt overlording those areas,


British cultural influence didnt spread to all part of Nigeria, because the influence wasnt wide spread to those areas or because the British didnt war some tribes in Nigeria for colonization, does not meam British wasnt over lording them



If you have to go deep in those people history you say benin influence didnt get to, you will see there is a silent influence not pronounced benin had on the people

Ctorch:
Lagos belongs to Benin - Obanikoro's grandson declares, reveals why its monarchs never wore crowns.


The grandson of the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos has spoken on the issue surrounding the ownership of the state

- Engineer Layiwola Ajayi-Bembe said Lagos truly belongs to the people of Benin

- According to the octogenarian, it was agreed at a meeting in 1903 that Obas in Lagos should not wear crowns.

An octogenarian and grandson of the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos, Engineer Layiwola Ajayi-Bembe, has given a deeper insight into the history of Lagos and its relationship with Benin.

Layiwola also said that Obas in Lagos were historically referred to as 'Elekos' and did not wear crowns.

Speaking with Legit.ng's correspondent, Adeoye Adewunmi, in an exclusive telephone interview, Layiwola, who is the chairman of County and City Bricks, disabused the minds of people who believe that Lagos is 'no man’s land'.

Ajayi-Bembe explained that the decision of the Obas in Lagos not to wear crowns was resolved at a royal meeting held in 1903.

He further explained that Lagos belongs to the Bini (Benin) and not the Yorubas as it is misconstrued, adding that there are still relics of Benin all over Isale Eko.

The chairman, whose mother was the first child of Gbajabiamila (of Olowogbowo fame), identified Idumota, Iduntafa, Idunmagbo and Idunganran as Bini names.

He said:

“Obas (in Lagos) - we don’t call them ‘obas’, we call them ‘eleko’ and they don’t wear crown.

“My grandfather was at a royal meeting in 1903 when there was a dispute of which traditional rulers should wear crowns.

“Ooni of Ife had to come all the way from Ife to Lagos upon the invitation of Governor (John Hawley) Glover.
“And the question they asked him (Ooni) was: ‘Who are the Obas that should wear crowns?’ He mentioned them – Lagos was not part of the list. We don’t wear crowns in Lagos.
“Lagos is Bini, not only because we came from Benin. There are signs and relics of Benin all over Isale Eko.


Enuowa is in Lagos; Idumota is a Bini name; Iduntafa is Bini name; Idunmagbo is Bini name; Iduganran is Bini name; tell me, what further proof do you want (that the Bini own Lagos)?”


https://www.legit.ng/1398022-lagos-belongs-benin-obanikoros-grandson-declares-reveals-monarchs-wore-crowns.html?fbclid=IwAR1BoQNVPVSmdYJQLkM0FEGTM79amLvBRU65gkyRX0pLtStG6RymygjZRHU

Benin own nothing in Lagos... I mean not an inch not even half cup of sand in Lagos... quote me anywhere.

Unclekayfarms:

Oranmiyan was never the son of Oduduwa. Oduduwa had only one son, he is Okanbi.

Oranmiyan, oduduwa and your new okanbi are invented, fictional, they never existed. they are myths.

Unclekayfarms:


Oranmiyan was a warrior that won the war from Ife to Igodomigodo kingdom.

igodomigodo was also invented, it never existed and once again oranmiyan never existed.

Unclekayfarms:

Benin used to be in Igodomigodo before Benin overshadowed the Igodomigodo.

Once again, there was never any igodomigodo

Unclekayfarms:

Who are you to call Ogimien the family of the last Ogiso scam?

There was never any ogiso, they are fictional, made up in a story, they never existed.

Unclekayfarms:

If you remove Yoruba from Edo state, it will become Igodomigodo not Benin anymore. FACT

Actually, the name w*Benin was mentionned as early as the 1400's and the name yoruba came long after in the 18th century and it was synonymous to oyo( oyo=yoruba). It is only much later around colonisation that the name yoruba was extended to a bunch of other tribes and in the colonial era the name "yoruba" brand was politically adopted by many other tribes in order to create a major triba.
There are different types of yorubas:
1) true yoruba: oyo
2) slave descendants (their ancestors were slaves in the american continent and were deported to africa after they gained they were granted freedom)
3) dahomians
4) jebu
5) brainwashed Edos

jneutron4000:
Oranmiyan did not administer as Oba in Benin, even when he founded the Oyo empire and he became the first Oba ( first Allafin of Oyo) he still left and went back to Ile Ife his final resting place.

Oranmiyan is listed as the first Oba of Benin and he administered Benin

It was his administration of Benin that made him give the name Benin (Ile Ibinu)because the Place was full of anger

nocomment2:


the problem si that google doesn't know everything, you see google is not a magician, it can not do time travel nor can it answer questions on its own, rather google directs you to a text written by someone and in this case a fairytale written by a person who was cluelsess about this topic.

I have read account upon accounts. Oranmiyam was the father of Eweka and Sango.