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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:53am On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


How did Christianity help us in anyway shape or form they could have brought technology without giving us religion
Let us all agree that your problem is the christianity part...
Blythe way your ancestors were backward..human sacrifice was order of the day..fact

No one is telling you what to believe but stop the pretence..an please christianity is not the only religion in Africa..Nigeria is half muslim , why not talk about that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:55am On Jan 16, 2021
IGpro1:
can't even understand where you are coming from or going. What do you mean by what goes on in Edo?
Have read that Edo is centre of what kazi kazi calls home science in Nigeria...I might be wrong though cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:59am On Jan 16, 2021
IGpro1:
I don't entertain native doctors..
Mr babalawo, African religion is demonic i.e worship of demons. Good day

Evidence for why it’s demonic please and remember Christianity originated from Greek oagansim meanwhile African spiritualities originated from ancient kemetic spirituality
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:01am On Jan 16, 2021
mtisTheQubit:

Let us all agree that your problem is the christianity part...
Blythe way your ancestors were backward..human sacrifice was order of the day..fact

No one is telling you what to believe but stop the pretence..an please christianity is not the only religion in Africa..Nigeria is half muslim , why not talk about that


I’m against both of them I mentioned it earlier both are bad. Human sacrifice was never the order of the day that was European propaganda sold to make it seem as if Africans were backward savages, we had cities and civilizations the fact that most Africans don’t understand this is sad. We had the ancient walled cities of kano. We had ile ife with the Yoruba compounds we had the great Benin city and great Benin palace with long straight paved roads, and oil fueled street lamps. We were not demonic nor backward.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:05am On Jan 16, 2021
IGpro1:
Africa is not down there anywhere, African history is just coming up, and it took America years to get to where they are today... If I trace your root to the 4 generations back, they were most probably tree and cave dwellers. Africa just came to light and with time, we will develope. However,slowly.
Yes we will develop an we are developing..it will also take time as y've suggested..the only problem is out corrupt leaders an our youth emulating unsustainable western values..
Blythe way tell your boy that africa religion was most part demon driven..there is no way to explain some of the practices.
Lastlymy ancestor I don't think they were cave men or tree huggers cheesy I think they were farmers or gathers an hunters cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:13am On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:



I’m against both of them I mentioned it earlier both are bad. Human sacrifice was never the order of the day that was European propaganda sold to make it seem as if Africans were backward savages, we had cities and civilizations the fact that most Africans don’t understand this is sad. We had the ancient walled cities of kano. We had ile ife with the Yoruba compounds we had the great Benin city and great Benin palace with long straight paved roads, and oil fueled street lamps. We were not demonic nor backward.
Ok that's all good but tell me about this.
Killing of twins
Human sacrifice
Cultism which is even being practiced toady .
Sorcery etc etc
Am not saying that the whites one time we're not barbarians but fact is that christianity opened their eyes..fact
Now for me I follow what benefits or builds my life an killing of children is not part of that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:16am On Jan 16, 2021
mtisTheQubit:

Yes we will develop an we are developing..it will also take time as y've suggested..the only problem is out corrupt leaders an our youth emulating unsustainable western values..
Blythe way tell your boy that africa religion was most part demon driven..there is no way to explain some of the practices.
Lastlymy ancestor I don't think they were cave men or tree huggers cheesy I think they were farmers or gathers an hunters cheesy

Some Africans were demonic not all. Ifa was never demonic maybe the one you practice is demonic but not mine. Also ifa contains African morals and proverbs all those Yoruba proverbs you hear are all from ifa, ifa is just a book with all knowledge the Yoruba have of the world.
It contains knowledge of the cosmos
Nature
Plants
Astronomy
Biology
Pharmacy
Religion

The Yoruba religion belief is that the world was started with a massive explosion create by Akamura ( celestial being) she then created another celestial beings to create the stars and the universes. Then she created our solar system and appointed iyaami aje as the mother of earth ( Mother Nature for them is iyaami aje) then iyaami aje created the orisha, olorun is god the orisha ths rules other the rest. Then olorun created 17 irunmole which are basically angels to create life on earth

There are 401 Orishas and this number is so much larger than the initial 17 because the belief is that earthly people can become orisha if they gain a higher understanding of the world and nature around themselves. Osun got a higher understanding of water, sango of fire and lightning it is believed that sango could control lightning making him able to strike down his enemies in battle.

Now tell me so far what is demonic about that. Angels, a god etc. Just your average religion in a different language


Odu ifa contains all knowledge the yorubas have
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:18am On Jan 16, 2021
mtisTheQubit:

Ok that's all good but tell me about this.
Killing of twins
Human sacrifice
Cultism which is even being practiced toady .
Sorcery etc etc
Am not saying that the whites one time we're not barbarians but fact is that christianity opened their eyes..fact
Now for me I follow what benefits or builds my life an killing of children is not part of that

None of those are part of African spirituality just becuase one person claims such doesn’t make it true ifa doesn’t contain any of the things you listed above, there are even Yoruba artefacts made of bronze and iron thst represent twins and royalty remember the yorubas have the highest number of yorubas per capita in the world. Cultism was created in the 1960s by wole Soyinka. Human sacrifice isn’t part of ifa or most west African relgiions for that matter it is a very recent development. So now I’ve debunked your claims. Christianity didn’t open up the eyes of anybody the scriptures and knowledge of the ancient Egyptians is what brought civilization to the people
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:23am On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


Some Africans were demonic not all. Ifa was never demonic maybe the one you practice is demonic but not mine. Also ifa contains African morals and proverbs all those Yoruba proverbs you hear are all from ifa, ifa is just a book with all knowledge the Yoruba have of the world.
It contains knowledge of the cosmos
Nature
Plants
Astronomy
Biology
Pharmacy
Religion

The Yoruba religion belief is that the world was started with a massive explosion create by Akamura ( celestial being) she then created another celestial beings to create the stars and the universes. Then she created our solar system and appointed iyaami aje as the mother of earth ( Mother Nature for them is iyaami aje) then iyaami aje created the orisha, olorun is god the orisha ths rules other the rest. Then olorun created 17 irunmole which are basically angels to create life on earth

There are 401 Orishas and this number is so much larger than the initial 17 because the belief is that earthly people can become orisha if they gain a higher understanding of the world and nature around themselves. Osun got a higher understanding of water, sango of fire and lightning it is believed that sango could control lightning making him able to strike down his enemies in battle.

Now tell me so far what is demonic about that. Angels, a god etc. Just your average religion in a different language


Odu ifa contains all knowledge the yorubas have
What you have posted there is not bad...its Just that some african practices were evil in nature .
Question, are you sure Yorubas were not partly hebrews cheesy have read stories ...
Tell me about your immigration if you are a yoruba
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:26am On Jan 16, 2021
mtisTheQubit:

What you have posted there is not bad...its Just that some african practices were evil in nature .
Question, are you sure Yorubas were not partly hebrews cheesy have read stories ...
Tell me about your immigration if you are a yoruba

We started in Egypt were not Hebrews. We originated from ancient Egypt but when the persians came in 525AD a lot of people including the forefathers of the Yoruba left Egypt but they weren’t able to keep most of the technology they had the only thing they could keep from Egypt was their religion and understanding of the human body and nature around it. I’m not saying some African practices weren’t evil in nature but to label them all evil in nature is just ignorant and wrong. Ifa for one isn’t demonic or evil in nature. Neither is the igbo religion even though I know nothing about it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:27am On Jan 16, 2021
Religion has been used as a tool in Africa to keep the people in mental slavery. The Bible is okay with slavery which is why black Christians don’t really complain about it. Christianity and Islam are both tools of mental slavery and bondage of us and until we understand this we will forever stay under in this world

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:32am On Jan 16, 2021
Austine1213:


Power of nighttime lights lol

That is during the westgate terrorists attack in 2013
What is your point
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:33am On Jan 16, 2021
Austine1213:


Posted every year since 2016

Lol

They were never there in 2016
You are getting desperate
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:36am On Jan 16, 2021
IGpro1:
grin grin grin mus-evil-ni. Bob wine was leading until m7 did his magic. grin grin grin had to clean my eyes to be sure they weren't deceiving me...

Museveni is counting bobi wine votes as his then his votes as bobi wine's
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:38am On Jan 16, 2021
Austine1213:


But those pics tall have posted more than 10 times, try something we haven't seen lol

I'm not saying you competing, post something we haven't seen


Ohhh do your worst, you do not know me lol

Just post South Africa pics nobody has stopped you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:43am On Jan 16, 2021
IGpro1:
grin grin grin
Uganda needs a Zimbabwe style of revolution.
If truly he controls the military and security to that extent, Ugandas case is worse than ZIM.

With more people like Bob, it might not take long to topple M7s government.


No it can't happen
Do you know Museveni son is a senior military figure so is Museveni brother
Museveni wife is a minister
His relatives hold high positions in government
Zimbabwe style revolution is difficult
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:45am On Jan 16, 2021
68816419:

What's the percentage of ownership by Black Kenyans?

100%
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:58am On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


Christianity didn’t create those infrastructures now did they. A lot of scientific discoveries were stalled by the Catholic Church in the past. I don’t wear western clothing. We had tarred roads before you guys came using bricks, we had tap water to all houses in Benin city and ile ife before you guys came.


Stop putting together Christianity and science they are two different things. These things weren’t discovered due to Christianity
We talking about Africa bro!! Who colonised the majority of Africa? Ahhh yes the protestant British..... And Africa did not have tarred roads before colonisation, neither was there sewage systems or any modern amenities for that matter.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:59am On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


Christianity didn’t create those infrastructures now did they. A lot of scientific discoveries were stalled by the Catholic Church in the past. I don't wear western clothing. We had tarred roads before you guys came using bricks, we had tap water to all houses in Benin city and ile ife before you guys came.


Stop putting together Christianity and science they are two different things. These things weren’t discovered due to Christianity
Son,what are you wearing? Can you post a pic of it?
Hahahah . Hahahaha
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:03pm On Jan 16, 2021
IGpro1:
I don't entertain native doctors..
Mr babalawo, African religion is demonic i.e worship of demons. Good day

Awo is sacred secret. So babalawo simply means father or career of sacred secrets because they have a very big understanding of the ifa oracle
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:04pm On Jan 16, 2021
Kazikazi:

Son,what are you wearing? Can you post a pic of it?
Hahahah . Hahahaha

Why would I post a pic of what I wear to prove a point to some random homeless guy. I don’t need to prove any thing I am wearing Ankara. Most times I wear sokoto ati buba but anyways
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:05pm On Jan 16, 2021
jln115:

We talking about Africa bro!! Who colonised the majority of Africa? Ahhh yes the protestant British..... And Africa did not have tarred roads before colonisation, neither was there sewage systems or any modern amenities for that matter.

You really sure about that, in ile ife and Benin the roads were laid with smooth bricks, stones or potsherds to make walking around the cities easy. There were water wells in each house in Benin city as well as in djenne and Songhai. Or have you not heard of the timbuktu library and how much knowledge they had, africa did have modern amenities whether you want to believe that or not is not my problem after all your a colonized yourself
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:06pm On Jan 16, 2021
jln115:

We talking about Africa bro!! Who colonised the majority of Africa? Ahhh yes the protestant British..... And Africa did not have tarred roads before colonisation, neither was there sewage systems or any modern amenities for that matter.

Also you didn’t answer my point Christianity didn’t bring development, Christianity and science are two different things. Science built those not Christianity a lot of scientists at the time were atheists
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


Also you didn’t answer my point Christianity didn’t bring development, Christianity and science are two different things. Science built those not Christianity a lot of scientists at the time were atheists
who brought the science? Aahh yes the Christian colonisers
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:17pm On Jan 16, 2021
tylann:

100%
grin grin in your dreams, ain't that British point in Mombasa?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:17pm On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


You really sure about that, in ile ife and Benin the roads were laid with smooth bricks, stones or potsherds to make walking around the cities easy. There were water wells in each house in Benin city as well as in djenne and Songhai. Or have you not heard of the timbuktu library and how much knowledge they had, africa did have modern amenities whether you want to believe that or not is not my problem after all your a colonized yourself
did africa have Internet? Did africa have flushing toilets? Did africa have TV? Cell phones? Modern medicine?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:26pm On Jan 16, 2021
jln115:
who brought the science? Aahh yes the Christian colonisers

They didn’t bring it for one and also the point is who discovered the science and no it wasn’t the Christians, prominent European scientists were challenged by the catholic and later the Protestant church all through history like Galileo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:27pm On Jan 16, 2021
jln115:
did africa have Internet? Did africa have flushing toilets? Did africa have TV? Cell phones? Modern medicine?

There was no tv, no toilets, no cell phones when they came to Africa. And also modern medicine isn’t needed if the herbs provide proper healthcare, we had herbs which were able to cure multiple disease you may think it false but I have treated malaria with traditional medicine and I have been cured on multiple occasions so don’t bring this modern medicine bs.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:28pm On Jan 16, 2021
So,e of you are really acting as if Africans had nothing before the rope as came, go and read his the Portuguese described Kongo empire and Benin empire as well as the empires along Senegal’s coastline. Then come back to me and tell me the same story.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:31pm On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


There was no tv, no toilets, no cell phones when they came to Africa. And also modern medicine isn’t needed if the herbs provide proper healthcare, we had herbs which were able to cure multiple disease you may think it false but I have treated malaria with traditional medicine and I have been cured on multiple occasions so don’t bring this modern medicine bs.

And on top of that most of the things your talking about wouldn’t be able to be made without Africa’s resources and minerals, which the people were aware of because they used them for multiple purposes. We knew how to make steel, bronze, copper, iron we were moulding gold into swords and artefacts, we had houses with steel supports go and look at the pictures from the Benin ou ti I’ve expedition when they’re sitting in the castle you can see they used steel and wood to build their houses then they used clay, mud and bricks to build the houses. They had massive houses, massive walls, fortifications, massive ditches. Etc.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


There was no tv, no toilets, no cell phones when they came to Africa. And also modern medicine isn’t needed if the herbs provide proper healthcare, we had herbs which were able to cure multiple disease you may think it false but I have treated malaria with traditional medicine and I have been cured on multiple occasions so don’t bring this modern medicine bs.
same herbs that were supposed to stop bullets grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:33pm On Jan 16, 2021
Abohboy:


They didn’t bring it for one and also the point is who discovered the science and no it wasn’t the Christians, prominent European scientists were challenged by the catholic and later the Protestant church all through history like Galileo
who brought it to Africa bru!! That was the question, not what scientist discovered it!!

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