AreaFada2:

When I was a kid my old folks called Lagos : Eko, Ekoname, Ekoame, Ekonunuame. We understood all to mean camp.

Camp, watercamp, camp by the waters, camp by the mouth of water, actually meaning vast water body/sea.
It was never in doubt that these were original Benin ways of calling Lagos.
Etrusen
Samuk
Davidnazee
SarahA
Gregyboy
Nocomment2
Etinosa123456
slawormiir

NextD18:
[s]I don't think so, I personally think Lagos state belongs to Tinubu and his household.

He's their god and has the power to decide what will happen and what won't happen.

People of South West should just create out a special new tribe for their god and personal savior Tinubu[/s].

gregyboy:



Why 70yrs after d war,

Ctorch:
Lagos belongs to Benin - Obanikoro's grandson declares, reveals why its monarchs never wore crowns.


The grandson of the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos has spoken on the issue surrounding the ownership of the state

- Engineer Layiwola Ajayi-Bembe said Lagos truly belongs to the people of Benin

- According to the octogenarian, it was agreed at a meeting in 1903 that Obas in Lagos should not wear crowns.

An octogenarian and grandson of the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos, Engineer Layiwola Ajayi-Bembe, has given a deeper insight into the history of Lagos and its relationship with Benin.

Layiwola also said that Obas in Lagos were historically referred to as 'Elekos' and did not wear crowns.

Speaking with Legit.ng's correspondent, Adeoye Adewunmi, in an exclusive telephone interview, Layiwola, who is the chairman of County and City Bricks, disabused the minds of people who believe that Lagos is 'no man’s land'.

Ajayi-Bembe explained that the decision of the Obas in Lagos not to wear crowns was resolved at a royal meeting held in 1903.

He further explained that Lagos belongs to the Bini (Benin) and not the Yorubas as it is misconstrued, adding that there are still relics of Benin all over Isale Eko.

The chairman, whose mother was the first child of Gbajabiamila (of Olowogbowo fame), identified Idumota, Iduntafa, Idunmagbo and Idunganran as Bini names.

He said:

“Obas (in Lagos) - we don’t call them ‘obas’, we call them ‘eleko’ and they don’t wear crown.

“My grandfather was at a royal meeting in 1903 when there was a dispute of which traditional rulers should wear crowns.

“Ooni of Ife had to come all the way from Ife to Lagos upon the invitation of Governor (John Hawley) Glover.
“And the question they asked him (Ooni) was: ‘Who are the Obas that should wear crowns?’ He mentioned them – Lagos was not part of the list. We don’t wear crowns in Lagos.
“Lagos is Bini, not only because we came from Benin. There are signs and relics of Benin all over Isale Eko.


Enuowa is in Lagos; Idumota is a Bini name; Iduntafa is Bini name; Idunmagbo is Bini name; Iduganran is Bini name; tell me, what further proof do you want (that the Bini own Lagos)?”


https://www.legit.ng/1398022-lagos-belongs-benin-obanikoros-grandson-declares-reveals-monarchs-wore-crowns.html?fbclid=IwAR1BoQNVPVSmdYJQLkM0FEGTM79amLvBRU65gkyRX0pLtStG6RymygjZRHU

Etrusen:

absolutely!!!!

Etinosa1234:


^{Forty miles from Benin lies a large town called Lago [Lagos], which also belongs to the King of Benin. It lies on an island and is a frontier town, surrounded by a strong fence. In it live none but soldiers and four military commanders, who behave in a very stately manner. Every day they come together in the king's house and make a sacrifice every morning. After the sacrifice, they hold court in the open air, in front of the king's house. Whoever has anything to complain about makes his complaint. They all fall on their knees when they present their case, and when one man is given a verdict in his favour, he thanks the authorities and the king. Also, two envoys always stand with the judge and listen to what is done. Every day these two send news off to the king, informing him of what the judges have done that day. They do this throughout the whole year. This is practiced not only in Lago, but also in other towns of the king, as well as in Benin itself. Many people come to the aforesaid town Lago, by water and by land, with their wares, which consist of beautiful cotton cloths woven in all kinds of colours and patterns." -}
Andreas ulsheimer's voyage of 1603-4, translation by Adam Jones in German Sources for West African History, 1599-1669 (1983), pp. 40-41

In this account the eyewitness states that the large town(Lagos) belongs to Benin and was surrounded by a fence...

Then he states that the people who inhabit the frontier town are soldiers and 4 commanders...(Military presence)
.
It can be said that this was the mode of rulership before ashipa was made king

TAO11:
Benin liars are back in town.

Ekoname, Koname Tsunami, etc. LMAO! LIARS!

———————

No, the book which you all are referring to says something different.

(1) It says the name “Eko” was coined by the Ijebus based on the Dutchs’ “Ichoo” — it didn’t say from Binis.

(2) The same book said the Binis called it KoRame based on the old Portuguese’s CuRamo.

(3) The book said nothing about where the Portuguese originally got CuRamo from.

(4) But it does make it clear that the Binis got KoRame from the Portuguese CuRamo.

(5) The book doesn’t say the Portuguese got CuRamo from the Binis. No, it’s the other way round.

——————————
Every Yoruba person know the the oriki of Lagos.

EkoaRomi sa legbe, legbe.

The source of the Portuguese’s “CuRamo” is apparent without any fraudulent replacement of ”N” and “R”.

You liars should stop tripping I’m still around.

In sum, both “Eko” is is an Ijebu PSM of Dutch “Ichoo” and Yoruba “Ereko”.

While the Portuguese’s ”Curomo” have its roots Lagos’ Yoruba oriki — “EkoaRomi”.


These are loanwords into the Benin lexicon, and not the other way round. Thieves!

#BinisAreThieves

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gregyboy:



Ooh i love this, keep soaring bro, u didnt come early this thread would ended longtime ago

TAO1.1 is no were to be found now

Etinosa1234:


I'm quite busy now... I might soon log out sef

gregyboy:
Am still finding the correlation

TAO11:
Go find it with your brother whose presents the facts.

gregyboy:


Am still finding the correlation

jneutron4000:
Aworis, Ijebus Own Lagos 100%. Am just saying that even the so called Benin kingdom, the first Oba of Benin which is Eweka, is a son of Oranmiyan from Ile Ife. Ile Ife Prince Oranmiyan lineage birth the so called Benin Empire and before Ashipa even stepped into Lagos, we already have the Dejo chiefs which are Elegushi, Aromire, Onitiwo, Olooto, Ijora etc, Edos knows Lagos is no their land, we just have some idiots in Yorubaland that spew trash at time just for stupid reasons . Lagos is surrounded by Ogun state within Nigeria and even by Yorubas in Benin Republic to the external border of Nigeria so how did the Benins passed Ijebus and Egbas to found Lagos? They are using names as references . Oshodi is not a Yoruba name but because a man from Tapa helped we the Yorubas to fight the British, Chief Oshodi Landuji was made Balogun by Oba Kosoko, Now there is nobody in Lagos state that do not know Oshodi even his generation are regarded in Lagos.

gregyboy:


Oh ok thanks am at ekosdin i think we should meet one of these days call me

Etinosa1234:


According to the French translation, it says that the Benin call it Korame....

Its not expected that the foreigner be able to write our word very well...

The korame doesn't have a meaning in Benin word and we don't Start words with the letter "k" and when pronouncing Ekorame, the "e" would be silent (Etrusen, hope I'm correct in this) esp if foreigners pronounce it. .

Now given the fact that Benin had more influence in Lagos(Eko)than ijebu, it's more logical that the Word Ekorame (camp of waters) given by the Benin was shortened by the Ijebus to eko... Thus Benin are the originator of the name Eko

Samuk, areafada2, BornRicch

gregyboy:


The ijebu have no word as Eko, we have ekosodin in Benin,

Ijebu has no word as eko who dash them

Etinosa1234:


They would soon say ekosodin is Yoruba land...

It's only a matter of time

Meekymannia:
After taking too much marihuana, chelsea and some other gins...why wouldnt you be saying jargons?! In that case, you should have called the edo people and your family members to come occupy lagos then. What is point of campaigning?! Rubbish

gregyboy:



All lands in lagos was controlled by benins as stated by the dutch man,


Benin cultural nfluence was little in some aress but her political influence covered every part

Etinosa1234:


Even the paper that Christistruth00 was carrying up and down to deceive people states that the Korame/Eco belongs to Benin clearly... Thanks to nocomment2 that translated it, I won't have known

Meekymannia:
Why are you just realizing that now?! Simply because lagos is now getting better by atmosphere...you re
all insane. You better stop taking whats not good for your health and brain.

gregyboy:


Lets pity them by leaving the thread we have done much damages already

Etinosa1234:
^{Forty miles from Benin lies a large town called Lago [Lagos], which also belongs to the King of Benin. It lies on an island and is a frontier town, surrounded by a strong fence. In it live none but soldiers and four military commanders, who behave in a very stately manner. Every day they come together in the king's house and make a sacrifice every morning. After the sacrifice, they hold court in the open air, in front of the king's house. Whoever has anything to complain about makes his complaint. They all fall on their knees when they present their case, and when one man is given a verdict in his favour, he thanks the authorities and the king. Also, two envoys always stand with the judge and listen to what is done. Every day these two send news off to the king, informing him of what the judges have done that day. They do this throughout the whole year. This is practiced not only in Lago, but also in other towns of the king, as well as in Benin itself. Many people come to the aforesaid town Lago, by water and by land, with their wares, which consist of beautiful cotton cloths woven in all kinds of colours and patterns." -}
Andreas ulsheimer's voyage of 1603-4, translation by Adam Jones in German Sources for West African History, 1599-1669 (1983), pp. 40-41

In this account the eyewitness states that the large town(Lagos) belongs to Benin and was surrounded by a fence...

Then he states that the people who inhabit the frontier town are soldiers and 4 commanders...(Military presence)
.
It can be said that this was the mode of rulership before ashipa was made king

TAO11:


(1) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants was confined to only one island.

In other words, these Bini immigrants settled NOT on all the islands in Lagos, neither did they settle on the mainland.


(2) Ulsheimer’s report (as cited above) states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants (which is on the island) was a frontier settlement.

In other words, this Bini settlement lies on the border of (at least) two other settlements on that island.

(3) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above names this settlement of the Bini immigrants as ”Lago”.

In other words, “Lago” was just one settlement (wherein the Bini immigrants lived) among others’ settlements on that island.

(4) Ulsheimer’s report shows that as at the year 1603 when he (Ulsheirmer) visited the island, he already met the Bini immigrants already living on the island — within a fairly large fenced settlement.

In other words, Ulsheimer was not an eyewitness to how the Bini immigrants first penetrated into Lagos from Benin.

In other words, he has no information (eyewitness or even otherwise) regarding whether the Binis penetrated into the island (from Benin) by warfare or whether they acquired the settlement from the native people by means of some peace negotiation.

(5) Regardless of how they originally acquired their settlement (by conquest or peaceful negotiation with natives) it was at the time of Ulsheimer’s visit the exclusive property of the Binis.

(6) The only writings which came to make the first statements on the manner of acquisition of their settlement are writings from the year 1878, 1914, 1929, and 1952.

(7) The 1878, 1914, and 1929 writings are known by historians as the Lagos account — and they all agree that the Binis acquired their settlement on the Island by means of a peaceful negotiation with the native owners, the Aworis. (See attached for an excerpt from the 1929 recollection of the Lagos account)

(8 ) It wasn’t until the year 1952 (decades after the Lagos account have been published by British colonial authorities) that a Benin Chief by the name J. U. Egharevba came up with his reactive account that the Binis acquired the Lagos settlement by warfare.

(9) It is clear who was narrating an account unconditionally, and who woke up decades later (without any prior writing or evidence) to react that it wasn’t so.

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Etinosa1234:
According to the French translation, it says that the Benin call it Korame •••

gregyboy:
Forty miles from Benin lies a large town called Lago [Lagos], which also belongs to the King of Benin. It lies on an island and is a frontier town, surrounded by a strong fence. In it live none but soldiers and four military commanders, who behave in a very stately manner. Every day they come together in the king's house and make a sacrifice every morning. After the sacrifice, they hold court in the open air, in front of the king's house. Whoever has anything to complain about makes his complaint. They all fall on their knees when they present their case, and when one man is given a verdict in his favour, he thanks the authorities and the king. Also, two envoys always stand with the judge and listen to what is done. Every day these two send news off to the king, informing him of what the judges have done that day. They do this throughout the whole year. This is practiced not only in Lago, but also in other towns of the king, as well as in Benin itself. Many people come to the aforesaid town Lago, by water and by land, with their wares, which consist of beautiful cotton cloths woven in all kinds of colours and patterns." -
Andreas ulsheimer's voyage of 1603-4, translation by Adam Jones in German Sources for West African History, 1599-1669 (1983), pp. 40-41

In this account the eyewitness states that the large town(Lagos) belongs to Benin and was surrounded by a fence...

Then he states that the people who inhabit the frontier town are soldiers and 4 commanders...(Military presence)
.
It can be said that this was the mode of rulership before ashipa was made king

Kwashiman:
This Bini people and their revisionisms sef, haba we no go rest for una? According to their warped prism of history everybody came from Benin including Jesus Christ himself, yet we don't even have a documented record of where they themselves came from. Our Oba this our Oba that, yet you guys appropriated the Oba title from your Yoruba masters, because una manage get small empire wey no even reach the size and influence of a kingdom we no go drink water keep cup again? Just visit their Benin social groups on Facebook and see all the historically distorting garbage they keep concocting and selling as facts, you will marvel at their delusions...no be only una get empire abeg, just respect yourselves and restrict your delusions to your minority one state in Edo... encroaching any further than your defined space will be looking for serious trouble.