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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:53am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:Let us all agree that your problem is the christianity part... Blythe way your ancestors were backward..human sacrifice was order of the day..fact No one is telling you what to believe but stop the pretence..an please christianity is not the only religion in Africa..Nigeria is half muslim , why not talk about that |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:55am On Jan 16, 2021 |
IGpro1:Have read that Edo is centre of what kazi kazi calls home science in Nigeria...I might be wrong though |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:59am On Jan 16, 2021 |
IGpro1: Evidence for why it’s demonic please and remember Christianity originated from Greek oagansim meanwhile African spiritualities originated from ancient kemetic spirituality |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:01am On Jan 16, 2021 |
mtisTheQubit: I’m against both of them I mentioned it earlier both are bad. Human sacrifice was never the order of the day that was European propaganda sold to make it seem as if Africans were backward savages, we had cities and civilizations the fact that most Africans don’t understand this is sad. We had the ancient walled cities of kano. We had ile ife with the Yoruba compounds we had the great Benin city and great Benin palace with long straight paved roads, and oil fueled street lamps. We were not demonic nor backward. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:05am On Jan 16, 2021 |
IGpro1:Yes we will develop an we are developing..it will also take time as y've suggested..the only problem is out corrupt leaders an our youth emulating unsustainable western values.. Blythe way tell your boy that africa religion was most part demon driven..there is no way to explain some of the practices. Lastlymy ancestor I don't think they were cave men or tree huggers I think they were farmers or gathers an hunters 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:13am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:Ok that's all good but tell me about this. Killing of twins Human sacrifice Cultism which is even being practiced toady . Sorcery etc etc Am not saying that the whites one time we're not barbarians but fact is that christianity opened their eyes..fact Now for me I follow what benefits or builds my life an killing of children is not part of that |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:16am On Jan 16, 2021 |
mtisTheQubit: Some Africans were demonic not all. Ifa was never demonic maybe the one you practice is demonic but not mine. Also ifa contains African morals and proverbs all those Yoruba proverbs you hear are all from ifa, ifa is just a book with all knowledge the Yoruba have of the world. It contains knowledge of the cosmos Nature Plants Astronomy Biology Pharmacy Religion The Yoruba religion belief is that the world was started with a massive explosion create by Akamura ( celestial being) she then created another celestial beings to create the stars and the universes. Then she created our solar system and appointed iyaami aje as the mother of earth ( Mother Nature for them is iyaami aje) then iyaami aje created the orisha, olorun is god the orisha ths rules other the rest. Then olorun created 17 irunmole which are basically angels to create life on earth There are 401 Orishas and this number is so much larger than the initial 17 because the belief is that earthly people can become orisha if they gain a higher understanding of the world and nature around themselves. Osun got a higher understanding of water, sango of fire and lightning it is believed that sango could control lightning making him able to strike down his enemies in battle. Now tell me so far what is demonic about that. Angels, a god etc. Just your average religion in a different language Odu ifa contains all knowledge the yorubas have |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:18am On Jan 16, 2021 |
mtisTheQubit: None of those are part of African spirituality just becuase one person claims such doesn’t make it true ifa doesn’t contain any of the things you listed above, there are even Yoruba artefacts made of bronze and iron thst represent twins and royalty remember the yorubas have the highest number of yorubas per capita in the world. Cultism was created in the 1960s by wole Soyinka. Human sacrifice isn’t part of ifa or most west African relgiions for that matter it is a very recent development. So now I’ve debunked your claims. Christianity didn’t open up the eyes of anybody the scriptures and knowledge of the ancient Egyptians is what brought civilization to the people |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:23am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:What you have posted there is not bad...its Just that some african practices were evil in nature . Question, are you sure Yorubas were not partly hebrews have read stories ... Tell me about your immigration if you are a yoruba |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:26am On Jan 16, 2021 |
mtisTheQubit: We started in Egypt were not Hebrews. We originated from ancient Egypt but when the persians came in 525AD a lot of people including the forefathers of the Yoruba left Egypt but they weren’t able to keep most of the technology they had the only thing they could keep from Egypt was their religion and understanding of the human body and nature around it. I’m not saying some African practices weren’t evil in nature but to label them all evil in nature is just ignorant and wrong. Ifa for one isn’t demonic or evil in nature. Neither is the igbo religion even though I know nothing about it. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:27am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Religion has been used as a tool in Africa to keep the people in mental slavery. The Bible is okay with slavery which is why black Christians don’t really complain about it. Christianity and Islam are both tools of mental slavery and bondage of us and until we understand this we will forever stay under in this world 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:32am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Austine1213: That is during the westgate terrorists attack in 2013 What is your point |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:33am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:36am On Jan 16, 2021 |
IGpro1: Museveni is counting bobi wine votes as his then his votes as bobi wine's |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:38am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Austine1213: Just post South Africa pics nobody has stopped you |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:43am On Jan 16, 2021 |
IGpro1: No it can't happen Do you know Museveni son is a senior military figure so is Museveni brother Museveni wife is a minister His relatives hold high positions in government Zimbabwe style revolution is difficult |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:45am On Jan 16, 2021 |
68816419: 100% |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:58am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:We talking about Africa bro!! Who colonised the majority of Africa? Ahhh yes the protestant British..... And Africa did not have tarred roads before colonisation, neither was there sewage systems or any modern amenities for that matter. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:59am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:Son,what are you wearing? Can you post a pic of it? Hahahah . Hahahaha |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:03pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
IGpro1: Awo is sacred secret. So babalawo simply means father or career of sacred secrets because they have a very big understanding of the ifa oracle |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:04pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Kazikazi: Why would I post a pic of what I wear to prove a point to some random homeless guy. I don’t need to prove any thing I am wearing Ankara. Most times I wear sokoto ati buba but anyways |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:05pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
jln115: You really sure about that, in ile ife and Benin the roads were laid with smooth bricks, stones or potsherds to make walking around the cities easy. There were water wells in each house in Benin city as well as in djenne and Songhai. Or have you not heard of the timbuktu library and how much knowledge they had, africa did have modern amenities whether you want to believe that or not is not my problem after all your a colonized yourself |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:06pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
jln115: Also you didn’t answer my point Christianity didn’t bring development, Christianity and science are two different things. Science built those not Christianity a lot of scientists at the time were atheists |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:who brought the science? Aahh yes the Christian colonisers |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:17pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
tylann:in your dreams, ain't that British point in Mombasa? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:17pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:did africa have Internet? Did africa have flushing toilets? Did africa have TV? Cell phones? Modern medicine? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:26pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
jln115: They didn’t bring it for one and also the point is who discovered the science and no it wasn’t the Christians, prominent European scientists were challenged by the catholic and later the Protestant church all through history like Galileo |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:27pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
jln115: There was no tv, no toilets, no cell phones when they came to Africa. And also modern medicine isn’t needed if the herbs provide proper healthcare, we had herbs which were able to cure multiple disease you may think it false but I have treated malaria with traditional medicine and I have been cured on multiple occasions so don’t bring this modern medicine bs. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:28pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
So,e of you are really acting as if Africans had nothing before the rope as came, go and read his the Portuguese described Kongo empire and Benin empire as well as the empires along Senegal’s coastline. Then come back to me and tell me the same story. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:31pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy: And on top of that most of the things your talking about wouldn’t be able to be made without Africa’s resources and minerals, which the people were aware of because they used them for multiple purposes. We knew how to make steel, bronze, copper, iron we were moulding gold into swords and artefacts, we had houses with steel supports go and look at the pictures from the Benin ou ti I’ve expedition when they’re sitting in the castle you can see they used steel and wood to build their houses then they used clay, mud and bricks to build the houses. They had massive houses, massive walls, fortifications, massive ditches. Etc. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:same herbs that were supposed to stop bullets |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:33pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Abohboy:who brought it to Africa bru!! That was the question, not what scientist discovered it!! |
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