jln115:
who brought it to Africa bru!! That was the question, not what scientist discovered it!!

Scientists did what don’t you understand when they came to Africa they came with scientists, archaeologists, explorers etc, who gave us this knowledge christian missionaries did their job which was to spread Christianity and “literacy” but ultimately they weren’t the ones to spread the knowledge, and what use is it if their knowledge is just evolved from thst discovered in ancient Egypt by Africans or learnt in the Timbuktu library by Africans.

Abohboy:


Scientists did what don’t you understand when they came to Africa they came with scientists, archaeologists, explorers etc, who gave us this knowledge christian missionaries did their job which was to spread Christianity and “literacy” but ultimately they weren’t the ones to spread the knowledge, and what use is it if their knowledge is just evolved from thst discovered in ancient Egypt by Africans or learnt in the Timbuktu library by Africans.

we not talking about Egyptians we talking about sub Sahara Africa.......also Who said a scientist can't be a Christian?

tylann:

Museveni is counting bobi wine votes as his then his votes as bobi wine's

What did you expect man .M7 just hand over power to that boy.. uganda iko na wenyewe

jln115:

We talking about Africa bro!! Who colonised the majority of Africa? Ahhh yes the protestant British..... And Africa did not have tarred roads before colonisation, neither was there sewage systems or any modern amenities for that matter.

Yeap those british protestants should ever have bought that crap to africa.. see how internet an other stuff are killing us

Abohboy:


You really sure about that, in ile ife and Benin the roads were laid with smooth bricks, stones or potsherds to make walking around the cities easy. There were water wells in each house in Benin city as well as in djenne and Songhai. Or have you not heard of the timbuktu library and how much knowledge they had, africa did have modern amenities whether you want to believe that or not is not my problem after all your a colonized yourself

Boss what was the living standards of those guys at that time..even with all that gold it was just nothing trust me..popping in the bush is not cool bro whatever way you look at it..what white man brought wasn't that bad..
Folks today live a better life than those kings ..fact

Abohboy:


Also you didn’t answer my point Christianity didn’t bring development, Christianity and science are two different things. Science built those not Christianity a lot of scientists at the time were atheists

Again bro I think your problem is the christian part...I believe if the white folks came with a different religion you would be arguing differently..

Abohboy:


Evidence for why it’s demonic please and remember Christianity originated from Greek oagansim meanwhile African spiritualities originated from ancient kemetic spirituality

Christianity it is not bad it is just some people misusing it

Abohboy:


Also you didn’t answer my point Christianity didn’t bring development, Christianity and science are two different things. Science built those not Christianity a lot of scientists at the time were atheists

Dude just come out an tell us your religion..an don't hide behind africa spiritual stuff..we know who congured benin

mtisTheQubit:

What did you expect man .M7 just hand over power to that boy.. uganda iko na wenyewe

Museveni owns Uganda he will do such a thing

tylann:

Christianity it is not bad it is just some people misusing it

Today people just hide behind christianity..even go to US, the kkk believe they reprent christianity..but that's all lies..
Tylann just tell me,would you wanna go an live in dark ages like a guy suggesting here.pop in open an kill few neighbor s for worship ..

tylann:

Museveni owns Uganda he will do such a thing

The guy looked weak the other day..I think he should just retire like mzee moi..life after presidenncy can be enjoyable..unless guys just wan revenger

mtisTheQubit:

Yeap those british protestants should ever have bought that crap to africa.. see how internet an other stuff are killing us

I agree one could definitely argue if Africa would have been better of without colonisation..... But then again Ethiopia is an example that it would probably be the same...

mtisTheQubit:

Boss what was the living standards of those guys at that time..even with all that gold it was just nothing trust me..popping in the bush is not cool bro whatever way you look at it..what white man brought wasn't that bad..
Folks today live a better life than those kings ..fact

Stop being silly and learn history, You think Africans were bush creatures? I can promise you we lived better, no thugs, no murders no corruption because we were virtuous people religion was brought to subdue us and with your thought process it clearly worked.
I've even seen the boer asking if there were paved roads in Africa before the white man came as early as 1500 the kingdom of benin had paved streets, as early as 1492 the kingdom of kongo had an ambassador to Portugal and an ambassador to the Vatican. As early as 900Ad Mombasa, kilwa, Mogadishu were already major trading hubs this is even before the Arab as earlyas 1800 before the comingofthewhiteman in buganda kingdom they were alreadyperformingc sectionson women beforethe whiteman even knew, As early 1800 the worlds largest hand dug lake was built in buganda this shows high engineering skills,I'm ashamed that an African can live this long without learning their own history

IGpro1:
you are a kid...and know nothing about the devilish African religion. African religion is demonic practices, like voodoo, whitcraft, and all devilish acts... killing of twins, burying dead kings with human Sacrafice, evil forests, albino hunting. Etc.. Christianity liberated Africa. And brought light.

OMG!! it's 2021 and someone actually believes this?

Abohboy:


Why would I post a pic of what I wear to prove a point to some random homeless guy. I don’t need to prove any thing I am wearing Ankara. Most times I wear sokoto ati buba but anyways

Your sokoto is made of cotton,the plant which were brought in your country by colonizers.Don't ever call those things ' African'.Even a sewing machine you use was made by foreigners. I don't wanna mention about needles and stuff,I know thy are all foreign made probably China.
But without knowing much,you wear your sokoto and call it African?

mtisTheQubit:

Today people just hide behind christianity..even go to US, the kkk believe they reprent christianity..but that's all lies..
Tylann just tell me,would you wanna go an live in dark ages like a guy suggesting here.pop in open an kill few neighbor s for worship ..

he is somehow right about his discussion but some African traditional practises are harmful and outrageous at the least
Things like fgm, killing twins , child marriages sorcery etc this are harmful practises
The whites misused Christianity to colonize African
Today so called African pastors and prophets are using Christianity to steal from fellow africans
Al shabaab and Boko Haram are using Islam to kill and enslave people

jln115:
I agree one could definitely argue if Africa would have been better of without colonisation..... But then again Ethiopia is an example that it would probably be the same...

Don't speak of things you don't know about, Ethiopia was ruled by emperors and as with all empires they seek to always expand in doing so they swallowed other tribes and other religions from their own e.g Islam. when Italians annexed part of their country all the people united to defeat them, this created a temporary feeling of statehood amongs all people which came to an end in 1974, as with all kingdoms e.g prussia once you incorporate conquered territory without assimilation into your area chances of collapse usually are high
So Ethiopia would not be the best example.

mtisTheQubit:

The guy looked weak the other day..I think he should just retire like mzee moi..life after presidenncy can be enjoyable..unless guys just wan revenger

He should have gone in peace like moi did
Although moi was a dictator he knew people don't like him and he retired voluntarily

kevomtaani:

Don't speak of things you don't know about, Ethiopia was ruled by emperors and as with all empires they seek to always expand in doing so they swallowed other tribes and other religions from their own e.g Islam. when Italians annexed part of their country all the people united to defeat them, this created a temporary feeling of statehood amongs all people which came to an end in 1974, as with all kingdoms e.g prussia once you incorporate conquered territory without assimilation into your area chances of collapse usually are high
So Ethiopia would not be the best example.

was Ethiopia ever colonised... Yes or No?

United States Trade Representative list of least-developed and developing countries

https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2020/february/ustr-updates-list-developing-and-least-developed-countries-under-us-cvd-law

Guess which country is not on the 2020 list and is not considered a developing country anymore
thus a developed country

kevomtaani:


Stop being silly and learn history, You think Africans were bush creatures? I can promise you we lived better, no thugs, no murders no corruption because we were virtuous people religion was brought to subdue us and with your thought process it clearly worked.
I've even seen the boer asking if there were paved roads in Africa before the white man came as early as 1500 the kingdom of benin had paved streets, as early as 1492 the kingdom of kongo had an ambassador to Portugal and an ambassador to the Vatican. As early as 900Ad Mombasa, kilwa, Mogadishu were already major trading hubs this is even before the Arab as earlyas 1800 before the comingofthewhiteman in buganda kingdom they were alreadyperformingc sectionson women beforethe whiteman even knew, As early 1800 the worlds largest hand dug lake was built in buganda this shows high engineering skills,I'm ashamed that an African can live this long without learning their own history

That's all good bro..but let's agree people got different tastes..some will say the love their netflix than cattle hunting..just saying

tylann:

he is somehow right about his discussion but some African traditional practises are harmful and outrageous at the least
Things like fgm, killing twins , child marriages sorcery etc this are harmful practises
The whites misused Christianity to colonize African
Today so called African pastors and prophets are using Christianity to steal from fellow africans
Al shabaab and Boko Haram are using Islam to kill and enslave people

Ths is what I believe Tylann, most societies have both good an bad stuff..best way is to copy the good...the african ritual killings were just evil but their way of life an the way they formed social bonds is something everyone would love.the white folks were wicked from the word go but they brought knowledge which us rised our living standards..
For me I just follow what benefits me

jln115:
was Ethiopia ever colonised... Yes or No?

You tell me, you are trying to justify all of Africa would have been like Ethiopia if it weren't colonized I'm not stupid I can see through you, despite me giving you a very good reason why Ethiopia should not be the yardstick

mtisTheQubit:

That's all good bro..but let's agree people got different tastes..some will say the love their netflix than cattle hunting..just saying

Again with the silly statements.. so anybody in the world who wasn't colonized by the Europeans doesn't have Netflix and is a cattle hunter?

tylann:

He should have gone in peace like moi did
Although moi was a dictator he knew people don't like him and he retired voluntarily

An see Moi retired an no one bothered him..even some say he was still ruing up to the end

jln115:
United States Trade Representative list of least-developed and developing countries

https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2020/february/ustr-updates-list-developing-and-least-developed-countries-under-us-cvd-law

Guess which country is not on the 2020 list and is not considered a developing country anymore
thus a developed country

So SA is the only developed country now

kevomtaani:


Again with the silly statements.. so anybody in the world who wasn't colonized by the Europeans doesn't have Netflix and is a cattle hunter?

Dude try to follow the logic here...western education brought opportunities for africans to make their life more bearable..

Unless you agree with boko haram who argue that western education is bad then try to follow what am saying..some african practices were good an others were bad..an that ok coz it applies in all societies..
But please don't preach to me ths perfect way of traditional african way of living coz it's crap..let's call a spade a spade ..

mtisTheQubit:

Dude try to follow the logic here...western education brought opportunities for africans to make their life more bearable..

Unless you agree with boko haram who argue that western education is bad then try to follow what am saying..some african practices were good an others were bad..an that ok coz it applies in all societies..
But please don't preach to me ths perfect way of traditional african way of living coz it's crap..let's call a spade a spade ..

boko haram was the traditional way of African education? what makes traditional African way of living crap? care to expound..do you know that the keita dynasty 1100AD had universities? and that people from as far as Greece used to come to study there so please my good sir kindly explain to me how traditional african way of living was "crap"

kevomtaani:


boko haram was the traditional way of African education? what makes traditional African way of living crap? care to expound..do you know that the keita dynasty 1100 ad had universities

Dude again stop with delusion of perfect african society..we know there were ritual killings an bad stuff happening..
An this universities what did they invent..just asking...

mtisTheQubit:

So SA is the only developed country now

SA, Seychelles and Algeria if I'm correct

kevomtaani:


You tell me, you are trying to justify all of Africa would have been like Ethiopia if it weren't colonized I'm not stupid I can see through you, despite me giving you a very good reason why Ethiopia should not be the yardstick

I never said all of Africa would be like Ethiopia if it wasn't colonised M0r0n, don't make up arguments to things I never said, I simply stated Ethiopia is the only yardstick we have.... Even if you don't want it to be.

All of Africa had tribes that conquered each other not unlike Ethiopia.... So don't come with that b.s as an excuse