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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Etinosa1234: 2:37pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11: Nor be by to talk long story... Go straight to the point Captain Horseley called it eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs I'm still wondering what's hard to understand in this simple text. The author made a simple comparison... He clearly says that the Curamo which is lagos can be recognised in older Portuguese reports..Just like Eko, not Eco was used to represent Ichoo in Dutch... In other words, he says that the word curamo is used in a similar way as Ichoo is used to represent Korame and eko respectively That's to say that on other Portuguese reports, the land called Korame is referred to as Curamo by the Portuguese while in Dutch reports, the word Eko is referred to as Ichoo by the Dutch For the last time, the author says that anywhere u see curamo in older Portuguese reports, it refers to the land Korame just as wherever u see the word Ichoo in Dutch reports , it refers to Eko... He doesn't specifically say who originated the name but rather mentions the name given by different parties I can't believe I had to interpret it like 4 times as if I'm chatting with a baby Moreover present eyewitness accounts that clearly says this That the Binis came to Lagos for the first time, and they took ownership of their space on the island after they had negotiated and discussed with the grasses, the stones and the lagoon, etc (going by the Lagos account).; or after that had engaged in warfare with the grasses, the stones, and the lagoon, etc Samuk areafada2, gregyboy Etrusen edeyoung 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Etinosa1234: 2:39pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Christistruth00:Nope ... It says that the Ijebu took over a narrow piece of land ... not the metropolis 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 2:48pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234: How come much of Metropolitan Lagos is in Ijebuland ? 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 2:52pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:You have said nothing different from the very things I already debunked. Yes, I see your agitated now. (1) You just admitted that the Portuguese “Curamo” is the OLDER. You also admitted that the the Benin “Korame” corresponds to the older term “Curamo”. Yet, you somehow still insta that the older one came from the newer one. Is everything okay?? (2) The same referent, place, location Eko is also referred to as Eco. And it is said to come from the Dutch “Ichoo”. I’m actually not surprised that you’re clutching at straws now. But I can imagine exactly how you feel now. (3) What is eyewitness account and what does it say? I’d like to see the eyewitness account that says Benin immigrants met no native in Lagos. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234: Actually our words had no spellings because we had no alphabet. the europeans gave spellings to our words by using their alphabets and trying to form words which their countryment would pronounce the same way we pronounce our words. The problem is that the europeans have several languages, so the way a portuguese would spell our word might be different from the way a french would spell it. It all comes from there. Curamo is how the portuguese spelled the name the Oba of Benin gave to Lagos and Korame is the way the french chose to spell it.
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Etinosa1234: 3:02pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11: What is this one saying? Are u drunk? Captain Horseley called it eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs I'm still wondering what's hard to understand in this simple text. The author made a simple comparison... He clearly says that the Curamo which is lagos can be recognised in older Portuguese reports..Just like Eko, not Eco was used to represent Ichoo in Dutch... In other words, he says that the word curamo is used in a similar way as Ichoo is used to represent Korame and eko respectively That's to say that on other Portuguese reports, the land called Korame is referred to as Curamo by the Portuguese while in Dutch reports, the word Eko is referred to as Ichoo by the Dutch For the last time, the author says that anywhere u see curamo in older Portuguese reports, it refers to the land Korame just as wherever u see the word Ichoo in Dutch reports , it refers to Eko... He doesn't specifically say who originated the name but rather mentions the name given by different parties I can't believe I had to interpret it like 4 times as if I'm chatting with a baby Ulsheimer account clearly says that Benin were in military control of the land when he mentioned abt soldiers and military generals in Lago and not traders Where is ur eyewitness account that Benin negotiated land with Awori? Infact from 1603 to late 17th century, there was no ruler in Lagos because of Benin direct military control over the land through the military So who was the other independent ruler in Lagos apart from The Oba of Benin? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Etinosa1234: 3:06pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Gbam!!! It was due to the inability of the French to be able to pronounce Ekorame which obviously had a silent "e".. The French called it Korame. The Portuguese called it curamo As simple as that text is, I wonder what's hard for that guy to understand She legitly expects a foreigner to be able to pronounce the word very well |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:07pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
The one thing you will always notice about the yoruba is incredible ungratefulness. When you teach them something, they will pretend they discovered it on their own. When they copy you, they will pretend you copied them. They are full of lies (their national reputaion) and they are backstabbers and copiers. I can't even count the number of times they have copied me, ofcourse no thank you, no recognition, they just pretend they came up with it. Below you will see where I was teaching the master of this lunatic tao that Ouyo means ijo and I was also proving him to be a liar peddling a fake translation of the french text which I earlier posted. 1 Like
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 3:07pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234: For the one thousandth time Oba of Lagos himself telling you with his own mouth at 5.45 Minutes "Benin are not the owners of Lagos' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsp9VLRFno Get over it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let Jesus Christ deliver you from addiction to lies 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:14pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:Actually, the french and the portuguese were not wrong. You have to realize they were in the process of writing down words from a language which had no alphabet, no written form. So they created written words which their people (speaking their language) would pronounce in a way which would imitate how we pronounced our words. And ofcourse the portuguese don't pronounce written words the same way the french do. So inevitably, the portuguese and the french would write different spellings. Also it seems different peoples in the region had different names for the cities and kingdoms, so the europeans were also writing down the names given to them by other locals... |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234:The yoruba like to turn things upside down, they live in an alternate reality in which their slave ancestors were actually james bond/oduduway dropping from the sky with a golden chain (actually their ancestor did come with a chain, but it was around his legs and by boat when their ancestors were being deported after they were freed from slavery). |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:21pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Etinosa1234: That tao is extremely retarde.d. I keep saying it and I am not a cursing person, I only state what I see. As you have noticed, this is not rocket science. But the retarde.d tao just can't comprehend. Google and copy-pasting couldn't explain this for him. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Balogunodua(m): 3:24pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Lolzzz... You went back to screenshot a page in the thread you were disgraced and chickened out like a coward deleting your account at the same time...Mr. French u go soon delete dis One... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 3:26pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
Ideadoctor: Madman |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:42pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Notice also that the document states clearly that the Oba of Lagos is always a person sent from Benin city to Lagos. So very clearly the Oba of Benin would chose a family memeber of his to go and rule Lagos. Does this sound familiar: Enogie... This explains why these titles are not hereditary. These were meant to be appointments offered by the Oba. Any "kingship" in the region which is not hereditary means the "kingdom" was under a superior king whose throne was hereditary. The system was bastardized by the british when they took over. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:50pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
AreaFada2: Everyone knows okoro as an Igbo name. Bini is too tiny to even have such influence let alone known name. To every Nigerian Okoro is an Igbo name..case closed. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi:Hmmm, reality is not your friend.
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 3:54pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi: Carry your attention out of here our okoro maybe spelt alike but not pronounced alikr Our okoro is pronounced =okor but spelt okoro Okor means an inherent head of a society or family or association |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:55pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Shut it. I don't waste my time on revisionist... Never again are we going to tolerate such. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by kingsavage: 3:58pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
This tao11 na something else ; 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
to everybody, i believe meleszenawi is a yoruba. I stumbled upon one of his comments which seemed to paint him as a yoruba fantic and igbo hater. I stand to be corrected, but I think he is one of those imposters claiming an other man's tribe. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
gregyboy: Why do you want me to leave, so as to continue your revisionist. You guys run the most despicable facebook group I have ever seen under the universe. Great Bini and others. A facebook group that discusses nothing except others . Why in a hurry to drive me out....You guys are really something else. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:02pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: You can say anything you want and believe whatever you want but one fact stands out that you guys aren't straightforward.. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:03pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi:i know you just want to repeat the word "revisionist" because i first said it, but you might want to learn the meaning of the word before stupidly repeating it. Eye-witness account is not revisionism. the people doing revisionism are you and your yoruba friends who never quote eye-witnesses. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi:Reality is once again not your friend, i quote eye-witnesses, you can't be anymore straightforward than that. You can't be any more truthful than that. You guys like to call something a lie if it doesn't suit your ego. To you these are just words, you say "lie" because you don't like it. I provide hard proof and go through the highest standards of proving which you and your "tribesmen" don't even go through, yet afterwards, you just say "liar". |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: How old are you to be an eye witness to such history? |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: You quote torn papers not evidence... Tao11 is doing the right thing...not you binis. No room for tolerance again...Never 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:08pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi:I quote eye-witnesses. I never said : "I am an eye-witness". Why are you people dumb ? 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:10pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Dumb is when your kingdom is tiny but you are claiming the whole world upto Ethiopia. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:12pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi:so according to you, the person who provides the document he quotes and provides snapshots of where he quotes and the exact page is a revisionist while the person who hides whatever document he quotes or make up some of his quotes is a truth teller. Reality is not you people's friend. the extreme delusion of tao is clear for all to see, you guys have decided to blind yourselves and worhip the scam artist tao. But just remeber, you are only creating your own version of berni madoff. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 4:14pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
MelesZenawi: Once again, your self serving opinion contradicts eye-witness accounts. 1 Like
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Ideadoctor(m): 4:18pm On Jan 16, 2021 |
let be logical,If Lagos indeed belongs to the Benin then why do Yoruba dominate Lagos today, was it that the Yoruba conquered the indigenous Edo settlers or Yoruba's were the indigenous settler,if Benin agree with the first thesis,then they should take heart,because lagos is gone for Good, Yoruba's won't open their eyes and watch you capture their big meat, but if Benin disagrees with the first thesis and support the second, then they are thieves that deserved to be hanged or shot,but if Benin does not agree with the first and second thesis, let them propose the third . |
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