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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 3:05pm On Jan 16, 2021
Spy360:

As good as this may sound to you, I will be cautious until the full story comes out. Ozil caused a problem for the club with his political stance. When he was put out of the team he could have sourced for other clubs and stay in the game rather than sitting down and do nothing to earn big wage. I blame Arsenal for not using him that time as it was a big waste, yet I believe they have their reasons. This deal could have happened during the summer. I am aware that Arsenal actually threatened to take legal action and force him to repay the money he earned while doing nothing if he doesn't agree to a termination (he initially wanted Arsenal and Fernebahce to share his wages for another two years). So he was forced to agree not that he's doing the club a favor.

The good thing is that this story has come to an end. A fair end.
The club will pay off part of his remaining contract while he goes to Fernabahce
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 3:08pm On Jan 16, 2021
kokanepyramid:


Did the contract termination include him not getting paid rest of his contract?

He was scheduled to earn 7M over the next 6 months but he is forgoing a portion of that so he can become a free agent and move to Turkey.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:18pm On Jan 16, 2021
kokanepyramid:


Did the contract termination include him not getting paid rest of his contract?
Yes
They came to mutual agreement, he will sign full contract with fenebache
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:20pm On Jan 16, 2021
kokanepyramid:

The club will pay off part of his remaining contract while he goes to Fernabahce
Wrong
Arsenal ain't willing to pay him off, they prefer he stays do nothing and earn, but they both agreed on termination now
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:51pm On Jan 16, 2021
sod09:

Wrong
Arsenal ain't willing to pay him off, they prefer he stays do nothing and earn, but they both agreed on termination now
This is false on all levels
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:00pm On Jan 16, 2021
Roland17:


He was scheduled to earn 7M over the next 6 months but he is forgoing a portion of that so he can become a free agent and move to Turkey.
That’s what I’m trying to tell Sod09, it’s a win win for both sides. The free agent would make Arsenal unable to sell him for a fee despite still having a contract, this puts him in a better wage negotiation with his next club. This was similar to what United did with Sanchez But the stingy board wanted to eat their cake and have it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:22pm On Jan 16, 2021
Roland17:


Contractually there was nothing Arsenal could have done as far as taking him to court. Ozil was not refusing to play na? He did not down tools! The last time I checked he was training every week with the team and participating in all team activities but the club through Arteta chose not to register him for any competition, so how was it his fault?

He had a contract that was binding between both parties and the issue of a real trade never came up until now. Ozil needed to make an important statement with the way he was treated because of his political stance. Did Arsenal offer him to any club and he refused? Arsenal negotiated the contract with him and now he is supposed to force a move away from Arsenal because he has been vilified by the owners and coaches? Come on man! We did Ozil wrong in my books! There is no justification for this. There is absolutely nothing wrong for him to choose to sit and enjoy the last 6 months of a 350K/ Week salary that was negotiated. He did not down tools.

Rather than being appreciated for his decision we have continued to vilify him even on this thread. The deal could have happened in the summer but which club presented any offer? How many clubs can afford his wage? Was he offered and refused? Here we are, he chose to terminate the contract, yet, he is still burdened with the responsibilities of the failures associated with the bad ending.

Arsenal is struggling mightily under Arteta on and off the field but we can not focus on football and make the right decisions knowing fully well that this team is lacking an AM. Instead with no plans to recruit a decent AM because of our financial situation, we freeze Ozil, take months, injuries and COVID to start playing ESR, splash money on Willian/ Renew contracts of players who have no business donning the crest and exhibiting a distasteful and despicable level of mediocrity is managing the locker room yet Ozil is still the main problem.

I will continue to Stan Ozil, this step he took shows he is a class act because he could have continued to sit and enjoy his money.
But the club could argue that his off the pitch behavior or attitude, actions and comments may have affected the club businesswise and led to potential loss of revenue. This is law and it's an asss.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jan 16, 2021
sod09:

Yes
They came to mutual agreement, he will sign full contract with fenebache
No, they are paying part of it while he goes for free, that’s the mutual agreement
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:33pm On Jan 16, 2021
kokanepyramid:

That’s what I’m trying to tell Sod09, it’s a win win for both sides. The free agent would make Arsenal unable to sell him for a fee despite still having a contract, this puts him in a better wage negotiation with his next club. This was similar to what United did with Sanchez But the stingy board wanted to eat their cake and have it.
That's what I am saying. Ozil had wanted Arsenal to agree the 7m be spread over 2years to convince him move to Turkey. But when Arsenal threatened legal action he was forced to agree to a termination. Roland17 makes it sound like Ozil proposed the termination but it was actually Arsenal board.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ozil and felt it was a waste not playing him (I don't give a damn about politics and religion) by the board, but when it comes to deciding who was right and wrong, the fault is from both sides.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jan 16, 2021
Spy360:

As good as this may sound to you, I will be cautious until the full story comes out. Ozil caused a problem for the club with his political stance. When he was put out of the team he could have sourced for other clubs and stay in the game rather than sitting down and do nothing to earn big wage. I blame Arsenal for not using him that time as it was a big waste, yet I believe they have their reasons. This deal could have happened during the summer. I am aware that Arsenal actually threatened to take legal action and force him to repay the money he earned while doing nothing if he doesn't agree to a termination (he initially wanted Arsenal and Fernebahce to share his wages for another two years). So he was forced to agree not that he's doing the club a favor.

The good thing is that this story has come to an end. A fair end.
In one post you said you’ll be cautious until full story comes out. In same post you said you are aware and was at the table where they threatened him with legal action as you provided no source to your imagination.

Lastly how would he want Arsenal and Fernabahce to share his wages for 2 years when his contract expires this summer. Did he go to the negotiation table with a gun?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:41pm On Jan 16, 2021
Spy360:

That's what I am saying. Ozil had wanted Arsenal to agree the 7m be spread over 2years to convince him move to Turkey. But when Arsenal threatened legal action he was forced to agree to a termination. Roland17 makes it sound like Ozil proposed the termination but it was actually Arsenal board.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ozil and felt it was a waste not playing him (I don't give a damn about politics and religion) by the board, but when it comes to deciding who was right and wrong, the fault is from both sides.
Don’t write this legal threat thing again without a source to back it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 6:03pm On Jan 16, 2021
Spy360:

That's what I am saying. Ozil had wanted Arsenal to agree the 7m be spread over 2years to convince him move to Turkey. But when Arsenal threatened legal action he was forced to agree to a termination. Roland17 makes it sound like Ozil proposed the termination but it was actually Arsenal board.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ozil and felt it was a waste not playing him (I don't give a damn about politics and religion) by the board, but when it comes to deciding who was right and wrong, the fault is from both sides.

Nwanne what are you talking? What legal action? I challenge you or anyone to provide any credible source that Ozil was threatened with a lawsuit. There are terms to the contract, show me the one Ozil broke.

You are basically insinuating Ozil was forced to accept this termination? That he did this under duress? Let me assure you that none of that happened. Infact that would be grounds for him to sue Arsenal sef.

Ozil is the reason this deal happened! If Ozil did not agree and there was no buyer to take the responsibility of the wage then there is absolutely nothing we could have done. We are lucky he chose to forgo portions of the 7M.

You are doing the same thing Arsenal did to Ozil, underestimate him and he needed to prove something which he did.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jan 16, 2021
Roland17:


Nwanne what are you talking? What legal action? I challenge you or anyone to provide any credible source that Ozil was threatened with a lawsuit. There are terms to the contract, show me the one Ozil broke.

You are basically insinuating Ozil was forced to accept this termination? That he did this under duress? Let me assure you that none of that happened. Infact that would be grounds for him to sue Arsenal sef.

Ozil is the reason this deal happened! If Ozil did not agree and there was no buyer to take the responsibility of the wage then there is absolutely nothing we could have done. We are lucky he chose to forgo portions of the 7M.

You are doing the same thing Arsenal did to Ozil, underestimate him and he needed to prove something which he did.
His source is his Amadioha shrine
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 12:45pm On Jan 17, 2021
There's something wrong with this club, we sold Martinez and got runnarson then we loaned out macey.
Now we looking for another keeper, these fvckers don't know how to pick priority, if macey wasn't good sell him off instead of accumulating deadwoods
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:51pm On Jan 17, 2021
sod09:
There's something wrong with this club, we sold Martinez and got runnarson then we loaned out macey.
Now we looking for another keeper, these fvckers don't know how to pick priority, if macey wasn't good sell him off instead of accumulating deadwoods

We didn't sell Martinez out of choice, he wasn't ready to continue being second choice and had to go. It's that simple. .....It is only normal to replace him ; whether Runnarson was a good choice or not is another story entirely.

I know u prefer Martinez in goal to Leno, but they are both great keepers and the club chose Leno.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 5:41pm On Jan 17, 2021
BlueRayDick:


We didn't sell Martinez out of choice, he wasn't ready to continue being second choice and had to go. It's that simple. .....It is only normal to replace him ; whether Runnarson was a good choice or not is another story entirely.

I know u prefer Martinez in goal to Leno, but they are both great keepers and the club chose Leno.
Why are they running after another keeper when they loan out macey
That's the issue I have
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 9:21am On Jan 18, 2021
sod09:

Why are they running after another keeper when they loan out macey
That's the issue I have
it's because macey is not good enough

I think him and runarrson are in the same WhatsApp group
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 9:45am On Jan 18, 2021
Roland17 , Good morning ó ... cheesy grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:13pm On Jan 18, 2021
Are we winning losing or playing a draw tonight.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 8:16pm On Jan 18, 2021
kokanepyramid:
Are we winning losing or playing a draw tonight.
Be like say them swear for Arteta to do mistake for line up
What's auba and either of luiz or holding doing when Gabriel they bench

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:18pm On Jan 18, 2021
Like play like play, Gabriel don go bench??

How??
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:19pm On Jan 18, 2021
Arteta's stubbornness will not make him follow my advice. Anyway this is the team he needs to beat Newcastle today...


Martinelli..... Lacazette....... Saka
................... Smith-Rowe .............
........... Xhaka........... Partey.........
Tierney... Gabriel... Luiz.... Bellerin
........................ Leno.......................

Subs: GK, Holding, AMN, Elneny*, Ceballos, Pepe, Willian*, Aubameyang*, Nketiah

*most likely /expected

Luiz brings more experience and stability than Holding and I think Holding needs a break too. Tierney just has to play and I hope he's okay.

Time to get Partey in the mix. Xhaka was brilliant in the last game, I think he deserves another run out before taking a needed rest.

Lacazette has been our best CF this season. His renewed form should earn him more starting spots invthe centre.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:23pm On Jan 18, 2021
It will be refreshing seeing Partey once again starting a match

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:28pm On Jan 18, 2021
sod09:

Be like say them swear for Arteta to do mistake for line up
What's auba and either of luiz or holding doing when Gabriel they bench
Do these epistles answer my question?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jan 18, 2021
Jodera:
Like play like play, Gabriel don go bench??

How??
Defence obviously wasn’t our major problem last season. Na ojukokoro make us buy Gabu, this takes away nothing from his quality though
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:34pm On Jan 18, 2021
kokanepyramid:

Defence obviously wasn’t our major problem last season. Na ojukokoro make us buy Gabu, this takes away nothing from his quality though
grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 8:37pm On Jan 18, 2021
kokanepyramid:

Do these epistles answer my question?
Thunder fire you
Ask Google na undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jan 18, 2021
Jodera:
grin grin
This was what I was trying to say that guys misquoted to meaning I’m scapegoating Gabriel. If we had added the money budgeted for AM say 50M to the money spent on Gabu. That would give us over 70K We would have gotten a prolific AM in the market with that and we would be fine.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 8:56pm On Jan 18, 2021
fredoooooo:
Roland17 , Good morning ó ... cheesy grin

Gerrrrrouuut angry

Adebayo is dead to me angry angry He died a decade ago. angry angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:01pm On Jan 18, 2021
kokanepyramid:

This was what I was trying to say that guys misquoted to meaning I’m scapegoating Gabriel. If we had added the money budgeted for AM say 50M to the money spent on Gabu. That would give us over 70K We would have gotten a prolific AM in the market with that and we would be fine.
Lol... At least, your stand is now visible and clear now
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 9:15pm On Jan 18, 2021
Yakubu Aubameyanga
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 9:35pm On Jan 18, 2021
Aubameyang Don mad finish

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