Mctominay burst my head today ooo!
Guy was solid, helped us breakthrough liverpool's press

hoopLA:

Maybe so.
But conversely we've consistently beaten the big boys and won the trophy.

So I'd say it's pretty much a marker of a championship winning side.

Funny thing is,we both can't make this argument till season's end.

Maybe in the days of SAF. But even him didn't always beat the top 4 teams home and away every year.

The team seems to be moving in a positive direction. The top 6 wins will come sooner or later.

KingAlabi:


Before the game would you stake a million for United to win/draw ?

If you're forward looking,I believe you should expect to win EVERY game irrespective of the opponent.

timay:


I could remember Ronaldo's own prior to 2008, opposition fans usually banter him too that he disappears in big games, so I'm not surprised

I am not cowed by those rubbish talk. Only novices and younger fans listen to those rubbish. They just do that to hold on to something, because they are just bitter.
Van Nistelrooy own was that he doesn't score outside the box and that he doesn't dribbling too many people to score.

Ronaldo own is that he doesn't score against big teams. Lol. Ronaldo?

They also did same for Rooney calling him all sorts of names,
They did it to Roy Keane and Cantona too, so its not new.
When Bruno score against their so called big teams now, they will shift the goal post to may be " he doesn't score headers" or " he only score with his right leg" or he need to score more in second half. Any thing to just hold on to.

KDB, KDB everytime, their match against Liverpool what did he do? He dropped a disasterclass and missed a penalty, he was there versus Liecester and they were hammered. Against Lyon last season nko. KDB has been in city npw for Five years and they lost to Monaco, Liverpool, Spurs, and Lyon in all those matches he was absolutely anonymous and awful. Bruno came to England newly and matched up against KDB and bossed him we won 2-0. dont let anybody emotionally blackmail you into buying that KDB argument. I wont swap Bruno with any player in EPL currently

Lana1:
Maybe in the days of SAF. But even him didn't always beat the top 4 teams home and away every year.

The team seems to be moving in a positive direction. The top 6 wins will come sooner or later.

Not disagreeing with you.

But beating your title rivals still remains one way of at least getting a psychological edge over them.

nitrogen:


They had midfielders at the back. We came out in the last ten minutes and created good chances.

If we had come out from the beginning, they would have gotten much clearer chances to score against us. We are not on the same energy level

Countering the narrative that Bruno disappears in big games;

Chelsea - 3 games, 1 goal, 1 assist - 1 POTM
Spurs - 2 games, 2 Goals - 1 POTM
Leicester - 2 games, 2 Goals, 1 assist - 2 POTM
Mancity - 3 games, 1 assist - 1 POTM
Everton - 3 games, 3 goals, 1 assist - 2 POTM

LpooL - Game - blanked
Arsenal - 1 Game - Blanked

PSG - 2 games, 1 Goal
Leipzig - 2 games, 2 assists, 1 goal

But people wey dey rep Ziyech and German Shepherds will tell you Bruno ghosts in big games

MaziAlaye:
Countering the narrative that Bruno disappears in big games;

Chelsea - 3 games, 1 goal, 1 assist - 1 POTM
Spurs - 2 games, 2 Goals - 1 POTM
Leicester - 2 games, 2 Goals, 1 assist - 2 POTM
Mancity - 3 games, 1 assist - 1 POTM
Everton - 3 games, 3 goals, 1 assist - 2 POTM

LpooL - Game - blanked
Arsenal - 1 Game - Blanked

PSG - 2 games, 1 Goal
Leipzig - 2 games, 2 assists, 1 goal

But people wey dey rep Ziyech and German Shepherds will tell you Bruno ghosts in big games

EOD.

CapitalCee:


A point at Anfield is a fantastic result. With little more luck we would have won. Look at the league table, that rubbish statistics of winning big teams is generated by rival fans to see what to hold on to. If you win the league, nobody cares who you win.

Thats a half-full perspective.

That means we cant really separate ourselves from everyone else who's gone to Anfield.
Which means we really can't point to something that makes us different.

I do not feel it's rubbish if you beat your nearest rivals.
Its called consistency, and thats what wins league titles.

nitrogen:


Last season, we held our own against the big boys, I think.

I am not saying that we should beAt all big clubs, this particular game was there for us. If City win their outstanding game, na safe journey o. Watch them beat everybody to win the league. Don’t forget that Pep is becoming a smarter manager, he’s tried to improve his team’s compactness.

Hopefully, he fumbles today sha.

If city win their outstanding game and win every match feom then on to win the league, i wont begrudge them that. Even Fergie cant even stop it. We mustn't win the league this season. I just want a title race which will conote progress.
By the summer will be looking at solving our weakness. By getting a reliable CDM, CB and CF and then see from there

hoopLA:

Not disagreeing with you.

But beating your title rivals still remains one way of at least getting a psychological edge over them.

Liverpool’s last 3 EPL games were sh1t. They lost to Sou, and played draws against Newcastle and Westbrom. But then, we should respect them.

Liverpool is shyte right now, any club in the EPL can take points off them.

KingAlabi:


I don't agree with this

Thank you

When we do proper digging, u'll realise Rashford na offside merchant.
This was just from today's game alone.

nitrogen:


They had midfielders at the back. We came out in the last ten minutes and created good chances.

It still boils down to what i said earlier and that is your front men and Bruno all were lazy,they didn't really take on liverpool back line despite getting the in positions to wreck havoc and also there were meaningless play from main man Bruno .

CapitalCee:


I am not cowed by those rubbish talk. Only novices and younger fans listen to those rubbish. They just do that to hold on to something, because they are just bitter.
Van Nistelrooy own was that he doesn't score outside the box and that he doesn't dribbling too many people to score.

Ronaldo own is that he doesn't score against big teams. Lol. Ronaldo?

They also did same for Rooney calling him all sorts of names,
They did it to Roy Keane and Cantona too, so its not new.
When Bruno score against their so called big teams now, they will shift the goal post to may be " he doesn't score headers" or " he only score with his right leg" or he need to score more in second half. Any thing to just hold on to.

KDB, KDB everytime, their match against Liverpool what did he do? He dropped a disasterclass and missed a penalty, he was there versus Liecester and they were hammered. Against Lyon last season nko. KDB has been in city npw for Five years and they lost to Monaco, Liverpool, Spurs, and Lyon in all those matches he was absolutely anonymous and awful. Bruno came to England newly and matched up against KDB and bossed him we won 2-0. dont let anybody emotionally blackmail you into buying that KDB argument. I wont swap Bruno with any player in EPL currently

You shouldn't be taking seriously one bit.

CapitalCee:


Honestly For me Pogba is better than Debryune

ChristineC:

that's the problem. it's easy to forget how far the team have come from our last 0-3 spanking at Anfield just two Decembers ago.

Gradually we will get there hopefully. Almost every top team seem to have more energy than us until the last 20 minutes or so

CapitalCee:


I am not cowed by those rubbish talk. Only novices and younger fans listen to those rubbish. They just do that to hold on to something, because they are just bitter.
Van Nistelrooy own was that he doesn't score outside the box and that he doesn't dribbling too many people to score.

Ronaldo own is that he doesn't score against big teams. Lol. Ronaldo?

They also did same for Rooney calling him all sorts of names,
They did it to Roy Keane and Cantona too, so its not new.
When Bruno score against their so called big teams now, they will shift the goal post to may be " he doesn't score headers" or " he only score with his right leg" or he need to score more in second half. Any thing to just hold on to.

KDB, KDB everytime, their match against Liverpool what did he do? He dropped a disasterclass and missed a penalty, he was there versus Liecester and they were hammered. Against Lyon last season nko. KDB has been in city npw for Five years and they lost to Monaco, Liverpool, Spurs, and Lyon in all those matches he was absolutely anonymous and awful. Bruno came to England newly and matched up against KDB and bossed him we won 2-0. dont let anybody emotionally blackmail you into buying that KDB argument. I wont swap Bruno with any player in EPL currently

Talking about penalties??
KDB Missed a penalty that would have taken City top of the table this season. Who would have thought penalties were so hard to take?

hoopLA:

Thats a half-full perspective.

That means we cant really separate ourselves from everyone else who's gone to Anfield.
Which means we really can't point to something that makes us different.

I do not feel it's rubbish if you beat your nearest rivals.
Its called consistency, and thats what wins league titles.

Its good to beat them, but now we didn't and its not an awful result, we can beat them at Old Trafford. Getting 4 points out of 6 from your nearest rival is a good result. The 2 seasons that City won the league they didn't beat Liverpool at Anfield. The reason we have not beaten any so xalled big teams is because of our early season form which is understandable

nitrogen:


Liverpool’s last 3 EPL games were sh1t. They lost to Sou, and played draws against Newcastle and Westbrom. But then, we should respect them.

Liverpool is shyte right now, any club in the EPL can take points off them.

But United habe beaten all three teams you listed up there.

Surely it's not too hard to ask a United squad on an upward curve to get a win over Liverpool struggling against mostly base opposition,is it?


You're actually making my argument for me.

If Liverpool is trash right now,United shouldve beaten them, according to your logic.

nitrogen:


I see your point. The momentum is good, and we should have won this to make a statement to other big teams that we are serious about winning the title.

We were toothless in the first half even though Liverpool’s defence was sh1t.

Why do you think liverpool defense was shit? When did that back 4 drop disaster class?

CapitalCee:


Its good to beat them, but now we didn't and its not an awful result, we can beat them at Old Trafford. Getting 4 points out of 6 from your nearest rival is a good result. The 2 seasons that City won the league they didn't beat Liverpool at Anfield. The reason we have not beaten any so xalled big teams is because of our early season form which is understandable

It's not an awful result.

It just sounds and seems to me like Ole was playing for the draw,with his tactics and selection.

An out of sorts Rashfird starts centrally,pushing Martial out wide,and Cavani on the bench.
Then the double pivot of McTominay & Fred.

hoopLA:

Not disagreeing with you.

But beating your title rivals still remains one way of at least getting a psychological edge over them.

We brushed City 3 times last season and they still knocked us out again in another SF this year. So much for psychological dominance.

As for me, i only care about seeing my team win games and the trophies that follow.


I like to leave all that bragging rights nonsense to the small clubs that care about winning "when it mattered most".

MaziAlaye:
Countering the narrative that Bruno disappears in big games;

Chelsea - 3 games, 1 goal, 1 assist - 1 POTM
Spurs - 2 games, 2 Goals - 1 POTM
Leicester - 2 games, 2 Goals, 1 assist - 2 POTM
Mancity - 3 games, 1 assist - 1 POTM
Everton - 3 games, 3 goals, 1 assist - 2 POTM

LpooL - Game - blanked
Arsenal - 1 Game - Blanked

PSG - 2 games, 1 Goal
Leipzig - 2 games, 2 assists, 1 goal

But people wey dey rep Ziyech and German Shepherds will tell you Bruno ghosts in big games

Mail delivered, take this LLLL

handelex:
Please he's just a P.E teacher.

As a Chelsea fan I dont mind a P.E teacher who will be ontop of the league log .

CapitalCee:


If city win their outstanding game and win every match feom then on to win the league, i wont begrudge them that. Even Fergie cant even stop it. We mustn't win the league this season. I just want a title race which will conote progress.
By the summer will be looking at solving our weakness. By getting a reliable CDM, CB and CF and then see from there

This should be our season, no one is sure about next season. Meanwhile, it was possible to not get points against top 4 teams and still the league, but these days, we have top 5/6, need to get some points off the big boys.

hoopLA:


Injured players out.

Dropping points in recent matches with patchy form of individuals.

Let's start there

Lol.

We talk like Anfield is some kind of fortress.

West Brom took points from them there 2 weeks ago.

You haven't answered my question when last did they loose a game at home in the league ?

Lana1:
We brushed City 3 times last season and they still knocked us out again in another SF this year. So much for psychological dominance.

As for me, i only care about seeing my team win games and the trophies that follow.

Fair enough.
But City was steadily doubling us while winning titles too.
Remember that.

I still maintain that the United side we see today lacks enough consistency to make it a real title contender.

sod09:

Yet we danced alanta at the theatre of dreams

Just to end up 11th, 13 points behind
Like the saying goes
You wey no know how sound take start, why you dey hurry to dance?

KingAlabi:


You haven't answered my question when last did they loose a game at home in the league ?

The question you should be asking is when they last won a game at Anfield.

hoopLA:

If you're forward looking,I believe you should expect to win EVERY game irrespective of the opponent.

With this United squad ??

Na wa sha

hoopLA:

Fair enough.
But City was steadily doubling us while winning titles too.
Remember that.

I still maintain that the United side we see today lacks enough consistency to make it a real title contender.

No arguments here.

Godx:

You shouldn't be taking seriously one bit.

Get out. Pogba just lacked discipline but talent wise KDB is not better than Pogba. In case you have forgotten. Pogba is 2 years younger than KDB and won 4 seria A title, won Europa league, Won Copa Italia and English league cup and also a World Cup all those times being a key player.

Let me even ask you . What the heck has KDB won as a player? And he is 30 years already. He has been at City for 5 years now surrounded by stupendous riches and quality training facilities and managers yet he won only 2 league titles, one of which he was injured the entire campaign. He has consistently been useless in Champions league losing to Teams like Monaco, Spurs, upcoming Liverpool and useless Lyon.

In the national team he has been useless, despite being surrounded by excellent playerz like Kompany, Alderwirield, Vertonghen, Hazard, Lukaku, Merten, Naingollan, Witsel and Courtois. What exactly has KDB done in the world of Football?