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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:28pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
jabolo: This ain’t new here na. As most people will say “Brabus must have seen it, used it or know about it...” I’ve used it on many occasion. Well we discussed this as one of the options in 2014/15 when some contemporary lovers are considering having large windows without the ugly naija burglar proofs. Other options explored/discussed includes 3M Security windows Film and some other indigenous solutions. Most of these solutions are very much around. Though not cheap. They’re not alien to us. 3 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:29pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
One4me:You're mixing things up. You register title at Land registry and not Survey plan. Survey plan is always registered at the office of the Surveyor General, which is not the same as Land registry. Survey Division is a ministry on its own, just as Justice, Education, Lands Bureau, Environment, Information, Physical Planning etc All these ministries can work in relation with one another, but are 100% independent Registering your survey plan doesn't authenticate ownership, but a prerequisite to having your title registered at the land registry. Taking a registered Survey plan to the land registry doesn't guarantee that the registrar of titles would register your deed of Assignment, as there are many hurdles to pass apart from survey plan. 10 people can have Survey plans drawn in their names on a single land. It's a deed of Assignment that gets registered at Land registry not Survey plan. The registrar of titles just need to sight the survey plan as an attachment to the deed, having cleared same with the office of the Surveyor General. At the Federal Land Registry, they don't even pay much attention to survey plan, as much as they do with the deed of Assignment itself. Once again, a Survey plan doesn't in any way certify you as the owner of any land. A wife can tell a land surveyor to draw a plan in her name, get it registered and the husband can also do same on the same land 6 months after. Hence, Survey plan is not a deed of Assignment, neither is it a Certificate of Occupancy to confirm land ownership. There are lots of articles on the internet by a lot of wannabes. Some are correct, some are misleading. It's best one listen to professionals that do these things almost every day of the month for proper guidance. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 11:20pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
erico2k2:I'm not a welder, saw it and decided to share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 11:22pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
jabolo:you call it lack of ambition. I spent five years with my boss and not for once did anyone request for this. The people who can do this type of work are old welders. There are alternatives to this |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 11:29pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
michlins:it's not like you'd have more than 1 of this in a building. It's just for emergency. I know emergency exits in public buildings that haven't been used for decades ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:41pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
davodyguy: Wahala dey o. So what is the purpose of a survey plan if it is irrelevant in claims of ownership? I have done survey of over 1 million Naira; what's the purpose of that? The survey plan attached is from omonilelawyer.com available online. I think he used to be one of the moderators of this forum if I'm not wrong. I say this for data protection and copyright reasons. Now look at the heading of the plan, what is the caption? Plan shewing........ belonging to.... In law what is the term: belonging to? If this is not part of claim of ownership, abeg wetin I pay over one million for? Deed of Assignment is practically useless without an accompanying survey plan spelling out the coordinates. Or does Deed of Assignment in itself includes the coordinates? When my over one million Naira was being collected, I was told by my team that the survey plan perfects the Deed of Assignment. So this people don play me wayo. No need to do survey then. No good news for land surveyors because (God forbid) na hungry dey blow be that. 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:21am On Jan 19, 2021 |
diordaves:@davodguy can you please elaborate on what you said a little more. I do believe they all work hand to hand, is it possible to get land information without having the survey of the location.Shouldn’t that be the first clearance to move forward to register the red copy and lodge a survey, or is there any other way to get the land registered without land information clearance?. This is another eye-opening situation to me. Another abracadabra, when we think we see it all. There are a lot we never see oooo |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 3:54am On Jan 19, 2021 |
n3xt:@michilin Oh so its even possible!!! And I was arguing that is too cheap to be real. Here are the two choices he is considering with little modifications |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:15am On Jan 19, 2021 |
ceelog:hmmmm. Well I don't know about others but I can't do any of this job for less than #35,000 as at this morning. Maybe last year, I might attempt to do the second one but only achievable if I decide to make them myself. But I don't know sha, he might have left over materials or something 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 6:34am On Jan 19, 2021 |
erico2k2: Just design |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 6:44am On Jan 19, 2021 |
kopell: I'll do a detailed explanation soon. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:10am On Jan 19, 2021 |
ceelog: When I’m in a situation like this, the condition for doing the job will be to do an exact sample of what mine will look like for the amount paid. 35k is even small in my view. All the small attachments in pic 1 will cost him a lot but if he’s the blacksmith or someone who just got off a federal govt project, it’s not impossible. But even at that, I will never pay less for something I’m sure it cost more elsewhere. At this point, an exact image of what he intends to produce at N28k will be fine. _______ May I ask how close are you and your friend? Nothing serious though but I’ve had an experience where a mother asked his son’s contractor to send his son what he’d like to see and give him low price so that he can send money home. Her reason was that he (the son) won’t do anything if she didn’t do it that way and the project has been ongoing for 8 years. ________ That was a great design by the way. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:41am On Jan 19, 2021 |
BiigTee: Thanks BiigTee and others. Work started yesterday. Materials procurement done. 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 7:48am On Jan 19, 2021 |
n3xt: Merci monsieur 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Moda1: 7:59am On Jan 19, 2021 |
Thanks for trying to reach out . I hv sorted it out davodyguy: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:12am On Jan 19, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:35am On Jan 19, 2021 |
diordaves:Survey Plan is very very relevant and one of the prerequisite in registering a title at the land Registry. But is the survey plan it self a title that you can own and feel comfortable as the real owner of the land? The Answer is Capital No You could have spent N5,000,000 on a survey plan and the land may not be yours at the end of the day diordaves:As regard the highlighted text, that is the normal 'language' by land surveyor to say 'belonging to' because you are the one that called the land surveyor and told him the land belongs to you. Hence, he will say what you told him and not necessarily because the land belongs to you. Mind you, the same plan you attached here, can have your name on it and it will still show 'belonging to' That's why I said 10 survey plans can be drawn on a single land in the name of 10 different people and it would still have 'belonging to' on each of them. diordaves:The highlighted text is false at least at the Federal Land Registry in Ikoyi. I registered 3 tiles all Deed of Assignment between Party A and Party B and I did not include a single Survey Plan. Fashola is the Minister of Works and Housing. Hence empowered by Law to sign all Deed of Assignment at the Federal level. Once he signs at the last page, that part is what would be attached to the Deed before the Registrar in Ikoyi would register the title for you. In Lagos and in Ogun State, they pay more attention to survey plan than they do in Oyo State and at the federal level. diordaves:The survey plan does not 'perfects the Deed of Assignment' but a prerequisite to having your deed of assignment registered. Here is how it works in Lagos and why a registered Survey plan is important 1. Upon 'acquiring' a land in Lagos, the first thing to do is to draw up a survey plan. 2. The survey plan shows the coordinates, size of land, location, details of the land surveyor and acclaimed owner. 3. The plan is what your Lawyer needs to prepare the deed of assignment that would be executed between you and the vendor NOTE Items 1,2,3 above still doesn't make you the owner cause the Vendor that sold to you may not be the legal owner of that land. 4. After item 3, give the survey plan to your land surveyor to get it registered via NIS and Office of the Surveyor General 5. After registering the plan, attach to the deed of Assignment and take it to the lands registry 6. Land Registry would not start any process without first sending the survey plan back to the Office of the Surveyor General to obtain Land Information and confirm that the land is properly positioned and not under Government acquisition. 7. If your Survey plan passes item 6, it would be sent back to lands to start the process of Registering the Deed of Assignment. 8. This is when the real work starts. Land Registry will now start to dig deep into the root of title. Who sold it to you? Is there a dispute somewhere? Has the previous owner mortgaged the property? What is the position of the court? What is the position of LASG on it? NOTE Item 8 is the reason I said your Survey Plan does not make you the legal/lawful owner of the land. Your survey may pass at the Office of the Surveyor General and still fail at the land Registry. If a Fraud is noticed at Lands Bureau, all the amount spent on acquiring the land or doing Survey has entered voice mail. The registrar of titles will never register that Deed of assignment for you. Hence, the registered survey plan is not more than a mere paper. Survey plan is very crucial in the process of registering your Deed of Assignment, but that plan on it's own does not make you the owner of the land. Take for instance, A man dies and willed his land to his 5 Children. The eldest (solely) among them decides to sell the land to you and you have a survey plan drawn. Of course you may pass at the office of the surveyor General and if possible pass at the Lands Bureau, obtain your consent or C of O. Just one thing will nullify your title and that is the day the other 4 children go to court that the land was sold to you without their consent, the court would set aside the transaction and issue an order that the Lagos State Governor revoke the C of O immediately and it would be done. If this happen, the survey plan becomes useless. What we always emphasize is root of title first. You can buy land from the richest man in Nigeria who claims he owns the land and then spend N1 billion to do survey plan and have it Registered. These process still doesn't make you the owner of the land. diordaves:Once you carefully read my post above, you would know better the order of preference/importance 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:40am On Jan 19, 2021 |
davodyguy: Wow! Please do I have your permission to share this on other reputable platforms. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 8:43am On Jan 19, 2021 |
jabolo: A lot of old houses in Ire akari estate have this type of burglary, especially for their large glass entry doors and it is still functioning. It is a far better choice for men anything. But getting an artisan that could do it well now seems difficult. You will be advised to go with the norm. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 8:43am On Jan 19, 2021 |
davodyguy: Nice breakdown. What should I look out for to verify if a land belongs to a real estate company? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:05am On Jan 19, 2021 |
somehow:Ask them for the title they have first. You can post here for assistance in verification |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:06am On Jan 19, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kobocity: 9:09am On Jan 19, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:35am On Jan 19, 2021 |
Not to ruin anyone's business but here's current prices of the attached materials #70,000 #63,000 #3,500. I'm currently where they're selling these materials to get what I need to do the job below and that's what I was told. Now how can he arrive at #25,000 per square meter 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:44am On Jan 19, 2021 |
michlins: The guy may not like profit like michlins ![]() ![]() Just joking... It’s possible the guy was given a job to do and the client changed his mind on the type of materials. Anything can make him sell cheaper. I currently have some aluminum materials for 12 units of 1.2 x 1.2 windows. I can afford to make the windows at any price because I bought those extra materials several months ago. That’s what I think is playing out here. The only thing is I’ll let you know the actual cost and the huge savings you’re getting using my service.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:04am On Jan 19, 2021 |
davodyguy: One has Approved Excision Another has Gazette |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:11am On Jan 19, 2021 |
somehow: Obtain copies of whatever they claim to have, take it/them to Alausa, verify In fact, you can even purchase Gazzette in Lagos State now to check if that area is mentioned in the records with LASG 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:26am On Jan 19, 2021 |
Jasobry:cos the Milano is more expensive |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Moda1: 10:56am On Jan 19, 2021 |
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