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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:21am On Jan 19, 2021
Moda1:
Hi . How many KvA can possibly power 3 fans , 4 bulbs , 1 LG inverter fridge and( 1 )55 inches Television.
Pls kindly suggest.

I knew a guy who can teach you how to DIY load calculation and equipment sizing. I never knew it was so easy!

https://www.kobocity.com/d/42-solar-energy-for-beginners/17

All you need to do is to just ask him all your questions.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 11:25am On Jan 19, 2021
erico2k2:

cos the Milano is more expensive

Price is driven by demand
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 11:27am On Jan 19, 2021
n3xt:


The guy may not like profit like michlins grin grin

Just joking...

It’s possible the guy was given a job to do and the client changed his mind on the type of materials. Anything can make him sell cheaper.

I currently have some aluminum materials for 12 units of 1.2 x 1.2 windows. I can afford to make the windows at any price because I bought those extra materials several months ago.

That’s what I think is playing out here.

The only thing is I’ll let you know the actual cost and the huge savings you’re getting using my service.

I'm interested,can you ship to the east?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 11:28am On Jan 19, 2021
Focusmind:


A lot of old houses in Ire akari estate have this type of burglary, especially for their large glass entry doors and it is still functioning.

It is a far better choice for men anything. But getting an artisan that could do it well now seems difficult. You will be advised to go with the norm.

Thanks. Also to Brabus. We have had these options and there is a ready market if only someone makes a go of it.

Price might not be an issue as well - you only need to retrofit one such window per room.

When/why did we lose this ability to make things we used to make before? I expect our artisans to be innovative and embracing the challenge of improving it, not giving up.

Why do we settle for the 'norm', when the consequences of 'going with the norm' is ... people getting burnt alive in their houses. Think about this for a minute.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:34am On Jan 19, 2021
Jasobry:


I'm interested,can you ship to the east?

Send your window/door or the size of the open-area when you want it installed and I'll work out the cost. The packaging is very small so shipping won't be an issue.

Na wa o. PM function no dey here

Send to 0...80...234.. 29122
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:37am On Jan 19, 2021
Jasobry:


Price is driven by demand
fair enough
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Moda1: 11:40am On Jan 19, 2021
This is helpful even though i don't know how to calculate this load . Any tip grin
n3xt:


I knew a guy who can teach you how to DIY load calculation and equipment sizing. I never knew it was so easy!

https://www.kobocity.com/d/42-solar-energy-for-beginners/17

All you need to do is to just ask him all your questions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:42am On Jan 19, 2021
Moda1:
This is helpful even though i don't know how to calculate this load . Any tip grin
Follow up that guy on kobocity.com. He's a wizard in that world. He will teach you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Moda1: 12:05pm On Jan 19, 2021
Thanks
n3xt:
Follow up that guy on kobocity.com. He's a wizard in that world. He will teach you.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 12:08pm On Jan 19, 2021
My 5metre by 5 pieces LED strip (rope) pop ceiling light ordered on 23/12/2020 via AliExpress just arrived and picked up at the post office, after paying ₦200 as clearing fee grin

Total for the 5 pieces is less than ₦5000. But in Nigeria, one would cost about ₦5000*5= ₦25,000

It pays to import cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 12:33pm On Jan 19, 2021
Hi Dav , pls how did u ship via post office ,do u hv post office address ?kindly direct as i know people ship via post office but i don't know how its done . Direct me pls

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hairbyuj(f): 12:37pm On Jan 19, 2021
hairbyuj:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 12:38pm On Jan 19, 2021
BiigTee:
One of the reasons is their service charge(infrastructure charge development charge) and all of that rubbish they don't tell u before u make payment.. In adron estate, u can't build and stop.. U must build from foundation to finishing at a stretch! I had already bought the land before i saw that nonsense rule! So i just abandoned the land and got another one. Just know if u buy land from adron at 2m..the other hidden charges will almost double ur 2m. Before u can lay a block on ur own land

sometimes back, while we were arguing omo onile iss - I said this here (thou then i choose not to mention names)...

I spoke to a friend who brought a land from one of those estate 10 years ago last week - he's still unable to access the land....

PERSONALLY - I dont advice anyone to buy into an estate / property plan THAT IS NOT BUILT..... if it's built, you can buy into it, if its not at the time of approaching you 100% - run.

100% means with water, roads, commercial buildings, residential all in place - just pay and move in....

GOODLUCK

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Twostep: 1:48pm On Jan 19, 2021
Good afternoon house. Please what’s the cost for approval from the Lagos state Building Safey commission ? For a land of say 50 by 50 from Alausa direct?

Anyone that can shed some light will be appreciated.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:52pm On Jan 19, 2021
Twostep:
Good afternoon house. Please what’s the cost for approval from the Lagos state Building Safey commission ? For a land of say 50 by 50 from Alausa direct?

Anyone that can shed some light will be appreciated.

Do you mean Lagos State Building Control Agency?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SavageResponse(m): 2:09pm On Jan 19, 2021
BrabusNG:


If he doesn’t know what to do his money, in order to turn it over and make more money, he’ll assume investing 200m in real estate is a waste of money.

If I have 200m, there are areas in Lekki that I’ll like to own a plot and flip within 2 years.

200m is nothing bro to what people are investing here. I knew plots of land that goes for billion of naira in VI, yet people are buying and recouping their investment.

For your information, banks will give you any amount to fund any project right now so it doesn’t mean most of these guys dole out their cash. Even Dangote is collecting loans to fund projects.


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I think this is kobokobo world so some projects will seem like impossible to many of us.
Come to skyscrapercity.com and see how architects are talking about million dollar projects funded by banks.

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So you’re of the opinion, anyone who buy a 200m land in Nigeria is a thief
Issokay!

There is no bank anywhere that will give you a loan of N1billion just to buy hold and sell property except you can shoe you have a steady flow of income!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Twostep: 2:12pm On Jan 19, 2021
No boss. Safety Commision. First time they came on site, they said the laborers not putting on safety boots and the likes was an offense and that it will cost about 200k to procure a sign post on site that we have been certified to work on site safety wise... not building control agency.

We’ve been wondering!



n3xt:


Do you mean Lagos State Building Control Agency?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by skigbu: 2:19pm On Jan 19, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:21pm On Jan 19, 2021
Twostep:
No boss. Safety Commision. First time they came on site, they said the laborers not putting on safety boots and the likes was an offense and that it will cost about 200k to procure a sign post on site that we have been certified to work on site safety wise... not building control agency.

We’ve been wondering!




Oh... grin grin

#ThisIsLagos
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:29pm On Jan 19, 2021
n3xt:


Wow! Please do I have your permission to share this on other reputable platforms.

If he give you his consent to do so, you most share that your reputation platform with us as well. This information worth .......... you attached amount to it, his giving it out for free. The little we no is from bad transaction experience.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 2:29pm On Jan 19, 2021
davodyguy:


Obtain copies of whatever they claim to have, take it/them to Alausa, verify

In fact, you can even purchase Gazzette in Lagos State now to check if that area is mentioned in the records with LASG

Actually their approved Excision file is valid, same with the gazette.


LSG needs to get online to make verification easier.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:35pm On Jan 19, 2021
kopell:
If he give you his consent to do so, you most share that your reputation platform with us as well. This information worth .......... you attached amount to it, his giving it out for free. The little we no is from bad transaction experience.

Sure, we’d try to get more information and get a link back to the original author.

I’d be sharing on NPC (Nigeria Property Centre) and kobocity.


________

Here’s a link to one of my post on NPC website about a decade ago. It’s one of the top articles till date.

I know a valuable piece of information when I see one. I think the information on survey and other title documents is a need-to-know information and it shouldn’t just be swept under the carpet.

@davodyguy baba, we are coming for you grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stevo30: 2:37pm On Jan 19, 2021
This is all shades of wrong. You pay tax on earned income in a juridiction. The best could have done is leavy. The governor Lagos do not pay income in fct and he should not be made to pay one of he has to build in Abuja but can pay levy and fees on the property. I guess they just see the clearance as a fee. So i have to dash Lagos state 750k-1.5m when i get to that stage. Gangster governance. Up till few years ago if you travel to some western countries you are refunded tax you paid on things you buy in the country on your way out at the airport.
davodyguy:


You pay tax to the government of the state where the property is located

If you're investing in Kano and you reside in Nnewi, you'll pay tax to Kano State Government, apart from the one you paid to Anambra State Government

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 2:45pm On Jan 19, 2021
Stevo30:
This is all shades of wrong. You pay tax on earned income in a juridiction. The best could have done is leavy. The governor Lagos do not pay income in fct and he should not be made to pay one of he has to build in Abuja but can pay levy and fees on the property. I guess they just see the clearance as a fee. So i have to dash Lagos state 750k-1.5m when i get to that stage. Gangster governance. Up till few years ago if you travel to some western countries you are refunded tax you paid on things you buy in the country on your way out at the airport.

I was only refunded Tax in Tokyo in 2015

Some other countries don't refund and they only refund VAT

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:55pm On Jan 19, 2021
davodyguy:
My 5metre by 5 pieces LED strip (rope) pop ceiling light ordered on 23/12/2020 via AliExpress just arrived and picked up at the post office, after paying ₦200 as clearing fee grin

Total for the 5 pieces is less than ₦5000. But in Nigeria, one would cost about ₦5000*5= ₦25,000

It pays to import cheesy
Do me a favor, I’ll send you email soon I need some information from you if you don’t mind.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by renderings: 3:07pm On Jan 19, 2021

The great advantage of 3D architectural Renderings and walk-through animations is being able to bring the client's vision as close as possible to reality. Once the plans for the building have been made, competent engineers and architects are able to visualize the spaces immediately in their minds.

A live model that simulates the actual building, is then created by using the visions from the engineer's mind, which is then shown to the client. The client then views the 3d model carefully and points out any changes he or she needs to be made and the result would be that the end result will be a physical manifestation of the client's initial vision, hence one can ensure that the business needs are perfectly met.

3d rendering is, therefore, a must do for engineers, architects, and designers as this ensures customer satisfaction as well as improving business-client relations.
Visit this site for more information about 3D renderings here:
https://www.virses.com/3d-architectural-renderings/what-are-architectural-renderings-and-how-are-they-created
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Laudbtc: 3:13pm On Jan 19, 2021
Engineers in the house, please which is more recommendable in filling of house?
Red sand or sharp white sand and also one which is cost effective because I live in delta state
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:49pm On Jan 19, 2021
renderings:

The great advantage of 3D architectural Renderings and walk-through animations is being able to bring the client's vision as close as possible to reality. Once the plans for the building have been made, competent engineers and architects are able to visualize the spaces immediately in their minds.

A live model that simulates the actual building, is then created by using the visions from the engineer's mind, which is then shown to the client. The client then views the 3d model carefully and points out any changes he or she needs to be made and the result would be that the end result will be a physical manifestation of the client's initial vision, hence one can ensure that the business needs are perfectly met.

3d rendering is, therefore, a must do for engineers, architects, and designers as this ensures customer satisfaction as well as improving business-client relations.
Visit this site for more information about 3D renderings here:
https://www.virses.com/3d-architectural-renderings/what-are-architectural-renderings-and-how-are-they-created

Are you from England?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 4:03pm On Jan 19, 2021
Stevo30:
This is all shades of wrong. You pay tax on earned income in a juridiction. The best could have done is leavy. The governor Lagos do not pay income in fct and he should not be made to pay one of he has to build in Abuja but can pay levy and fees on the property. I guess they just see the clearance as a fee . So i have to dash Lagos state 750k-1.5m when i get to that stage. Gangster governance. Up till few years ago if you travel to some western countries you are refunded tax you paid on things you buy in the country on your way out at the airport.

Regrettably Yes. In almost all the states I have dealt with or know people that have gone through this process.

The states don't care if you live and pay your taxes in state "A" , state " B" would want you to provide a tax clearance showing you have paid taxes in "B" before they will approve your plan.

Double taxation? Not their problem.

Gangster governance? Sounds like it but nah 9ja we dey.. what can an individual do? Sadly, nothing.. you make a small noise, your file will move at a tortoise or snail rate.

For you to do any business in 9ja , especially lands, erecting a build.. and the like, you have to be tough like 2 dollar steak.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 5:22pm On Jan 19, 2021
Found the original video - Ghanaians shaming us ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-FPX8ThKs

Anyone able to do this, I need at least 9. Please.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:53pm On Jan 19, 2021
davodyguy:

Survey Plan is very very relevant and one of the prerequisite in registering a title at the land Registry.

But is the survey plan it self a title that you can own and feel comfortable as the real owner of the land? The Answer is Capital No

You could have spent N5,000,000 on a survey plan and the land may not be yours at the end of the day



As regard the highlighted text, that is the normal 'language' by land surveyor to say 'belonging to' because you are the one that called the land surveyor and told him the land belongs to you. Hence, he will say what you told him and not necessarily because the land belongs to you.

Mind you, the same plan you attached here, can have your name on it and it will still show 'belonging to' That's why I said 10 survey plans can be drawn on a single land in the name of 10 different people and it would still have 'belonging to' on each of them.



The highlighted text is false at least at the Federal Land Registry in Ikoyi.

I registered 3 tiles all Deed of Assignment between Party A and Party B and I did not include a single Survey Plan. Fashola is the Minister of Works and Housing. Hence empowered by Law to sign all Deed of Assignment at the Federal level. Once he signs at the last page, that part is what would be attached to the Deed before the Registrar in Ikoyi would register the title for you.

In Lagos and in Ogun State, they pay more attention to survey plan than they do in Oyo State and at the federal level.



The survey plan does not 'perfects the Deed of Assignment' but a prerequisite to having your deed of assignment registered.
Here is how it works in Lagos and why a registered Survey plan is important

1. Upon 'acquiring' a land in Lagos, the first thing to do is to draw up a survey plan.
2. The survey plan shows the coordinates, size of land, location, details of the land surveyor and acclaimed owner.
3. The plan is what your Lawyer needs to prepare the deed of assignment that would be executed between you and the vendor
NOTE
Items 1,2,3 above still doesn't make you the owner cause the Vendor that sold to you may not be the legal owner of that land.
4. After item 3, give the survey plan to your land surveyor to get it registered via NIS and Office of the Surveyor General
5. After registering the plan, attach to the deed of Assignment and take it to the lands registry
6. Land Registry would not start any process without first sending the survey plan back to the Office of the Surveyor General to obtain Land Information and confirm that the land is properly positioned and not under Government acquisition.
7. If your Survey plan passes item 6, it would be sent back to lands to start the process of Registering the Deed of Assignment.
8. This is when the real work starts. Land Registry will now start to dig deep into the root of title. Who sold it to you? Is there a dispute somewhere? Has the previous owner mortgaged the property? What is the position of the court? What is the position of LASG on it?
NOTE
Item 8 is the reason I said your Survey Plan does not make you the legal/lawful owner of the land. Your survey may pass at the Office of the Surveyor General and still fail at the land Registry.

If a Fraud is noticed at Lands Bureau, all the amount spent on acquiring the land or doing Survey has entered voice mail. The registrar of titles will never register that Deed of assignment for you. Hence, the registered survey plan is not more than a mere paper.

Survey plan is very crucial in the process of registering your Deed of Assignment, but that plan on it's own does not make you the owner of the land.

Take for instance, A man dies and willed his land to his 5 Children. The eldest (solely) among them decides to sell the land to you and you have a survey plan drawn. Of course you may pass at the office of the surveyor General and if possible pass at the Lands Bureau, obtain your consent or C of O. Just one thing will nullify your title and that is the day the other 4 children go to court that the land was sold to you without their consent, the court would set aside the transaction and issue an order that the Lagos State Governor revoke the C of O immediately and it would be done.
If this happen, the survey plan becomes useless.

What we always emphasize is root of title first.
You can buy land from the richest man in Nigeria who claims he owns the land and then spend N1 billion to do survey plan and have it Registered. These process still doesn't make you the owner of the land.



Once you carefully read my post above, you would know better the order of preference/importance

The jigsaw puzzles are now in place. Very logical. All taken on board for future reference.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:37pm On Jan 19, 2021
jabolo:
Found the original video - Ghanaians shaming us ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-FPX8ThKs

Anyone able to do this, I need at least 9. Please.


It's a surprise how the Nigeria fabrication market passed on this one. It was such a common solution for sliding glass doors way back then. It is so so common in the UK maintenance free. They last for years. Even the underground train stations in London have them all over built from the Victorian era (1800s). Still functional.

UK ebay or China may be your friend.

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