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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:49pm On Jan 19, 2021
jabolo:
Found the original video - Ghanaians shaming us ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-FPX8ThKs

Anyone able to do this, I need at least 9. Please.


Na wa o! Let's talk.

What's the big deal in this bro? This is no big deal bro

_________

This was a solution by Trellidor SA. We've got so many of these installed in major malls and commercial shopping centers in Lagos. I shared these stuffs in 2015 including their Clearguard solution https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/39#39735792

Whenever we share stuffs like these, I always feel very bad because of the way people see us in this country. We look like ape right? grin grin grin

Ghana shaming us

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 6:59pm On Jan 19, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by stevemims(m): 7:02pm On Jan 19, 2021
What're the current prices for:

12mm
10mm

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:34pm On Jan 19, 2021
Hmmm

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:35pm On Jan 19, 2021
Trellidor Nigeria

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by stevemims(m): 7:45pm On Jan 19, 2021
What're the current prices for:

12mm
10mm

@next
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:02pm On Jan 19, 2021
stevemims:
What're the current prices for:

12mm
10mm

@next

Where's your location?

@mountmoriah @mastermovic are two verified suppliers of quality iron rods on kobocity.com
I'm sure they'll attend to this shortly.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 8:05pm On Jan 19, 2021
This one weak me o ... this seems like an afterthought.

twinskenny:
Hmmm
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 8:12pm On Jan 19, 2021
Your package will always be delivered through the post office that's closest to the delivery address you provided during the course of signing up on the AliExpress platform.

Enyinne:
Hi Dav , pls how did u ship via post office ,do u hv post office address ?kindly direct as i know people ship via post office but i don't know how its done . Direct me pls
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 8:21pm On Jan 19, 2021
n3xt:


Na wa o! Let's talk.

What's the big deal in this bro? This is no big deal bro

_________

This was a solution by Trellidor SA. We've got so many of these installed in major malls and commercial shopping centers in Lagos. I shared these stuffs in 2015 including their Clearguard solution https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/39#39735792

Whenever we share stuffs like these, I always feel very bad because of the way people see us in this country. We look like ape right? grin grin grin

Ghana shaming us

Trellidor - South African, right? So, I need to contact a dealer? It will be imported?

How do i get customized installations for my build?

In the Ghanaian clip, seems I can walk into that workshop and get everything ordered and installed. It's just a backyard artisan, doing his thing, not fazed by lubrication and rivets.

Thanks for your help but appreciate if you can point to a similar setup in Nigeria.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:25pm On Jan 19, 2021
jabolo:


Trellidor - South African, right? So, I need to contact a dealer? It will be imported?

How do i get customized installations for my build?

In the Ghanaian clip, seems I can walk into that workshop and get everything ordered and installed. It's just a backyard artisan, doing his thing, not fazed by lubrication and rivets.

Thanks for your help but appreciate if you can point to a similar setup in Nigeria.

Smiles. The Ghanaian said the solution was from South Africa and they adapted it.

If you want customization to suit your need, I’ll suggest you go to Owode Onirin, Lagos or Gate Iron Market in Ibadan. It’ll be built to your taste.

Just get in and show them what you want and it’ll be done on spot. grin grin


I can’t direct you to a particular shop because there are just too many offering same service.

_______

Edit:

The hungry fabricators at Gate Iron Market in Ibadan are requesting for measurements. They want to get it done ASAP.

I believe so much in Nigeria ��

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:34pm On Jan 19, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by stevemims(m): 8:46pm On Jan 19, 2021
Location is Ondo. Just wanna have an idea of what to expect these days. Thanks.
n3xt:


Where's your location?

@mountmoriah @mastermovic are two verified suppliers of quality iron rods on kobocity.com
I'm sure they'll attend to this shortly.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:01pm On Jan 19, 2021
stevemims:
Location is Ondo. Just wanna have an idea of what to expect these days. Thanks.

As at last confirmation (last week) TMT is 325k per tonne and local is 265k per tonne.

I’m sure Ondo should be around that range.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 9:18pm On Jan 19, 2021
Enyinne:
Hi Dav , pls how did u ship via post office ,do u hv post office address ?kindly direct as i know people ship via post office but i don't know how its done . Direct me pls
There is a space for postal code on Aliexpress shipping address. You must have gotten a valid postal code of the post office you want to use. Just input it. Aliexpress will automatically ship to the postal code. The code is of six digits.
For example: U.I pod office postal code is 200284.
The postal code is the only address that needs to be exact and correct.
Even if the other addresses ain't. Postal code should.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 9:32pm On Jan 19, 2021
Thanks for answering this . Pls do u know the postal code for Victoria island lagos
uncleteeh:

There is a space for postal code on Aliexpress shipping address. You must have gotten a valid postal code of the post office you want to use. Just input it. Aliexpress will automatically ship to the postal code. The code is of six digits.
For example: U.I pod office postal code is 200284.
The postal code is the only address that needs to be exact and correct.
Even if the other addresses ain't. Postal code should.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 9:35pm On Jan 19, 2021
Due to my lack of knowledge of using post office , I always ship my items to China address or Usa address but if i can discover how to use this post office , it will be to my benefit. So i can input my Nigeria address and any postal address of my choice.
Beframia:

Your package will always be delivered through the post office that's closest to the delivery address you provided during the course of signing up on the AliExpress platform.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 9:49pm On Jan 19, 2021
n3xt:


When I’m in a situation like this, the condition for doing the job will be to do an exact sample of what mine will look like for the amount paid.

35k is even small in my view. All the small attachments in pic 1 will cost him a lot but if he’s the blacksmith or someone who just got off a federal govt project, it’s not impossible. But even at that, I will never pay less for something I’m sure it cost more elsewhere.

At this point, an exact image of what he intends to produce at N28k will be fine.

_______

May I ask how close are you and your friend? Nothing serious though but I’ve had an experience where a mother asked his son’s contractor to send his son what he’d like to see and give him low price so that he can send money home.
Her reason was that he (the son) won’t do anything if she didn’t do it that way and the project has been ongoing for 8 years.

________

That was a great design by the way.

We are super close.
And we have been building at nearly same pace and share labourers and ideas.

He has engaged the welder. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the feedback
Cc @michilin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:52pm On Jan 19, 2021
ceelog:


We are super close.
And we have been building at nearly same pace and share labourers and ideas.

He has engaged the welder. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the feedback
Cc @michilin

That’s good one!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by stevemims(m): 9:54pm On Jan 19, 2021
Thanks!
n3xt:


As at last confirmation (last week) TMT is 325k per tonne and local is 265k per tonne.

I’m sure Ondo should be around that range.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 10:07pm On Jan 19, 2021
davodyguy:

Survey Plan is very very relevant and one of the prerequisite in registering a title at the land Registry.

But is the survey plan it self a title that you can own and feel comfortable as the real owner of the land? The Answer is Capital No

You could have spent N5,000,000 on a survey plan and the land may not be yours at the end of the day



As regard the highlighted text, that is the normal 'language' by land surveyor to say 'belonging to' because you are the one that called the land surveyor and told him the land belongs to you. Hence, he will say what you told him and not necessarily because the land belongs to you.

Mind you, the same plan you attached here, can have your name on it and it will still show 'belonging to' That's why I said 10 survey plans can be drawn on a single land in the name of 10 different people and it would still have 'belonging to' on each of them.



The highlighted text is false at least at the Federal Land Registry in Ikoyi.

I registered 3 tiles all Deed of Assignment between Party A and Party B and I did not include a single Survey Plan. Fashola is the Minister of Works and Housing. Hence empowered by Law to sign all Deed of Assignment at the Federal level. Once he signs at the last page, that part is what would be attached to the Deed before the Registrar in Ikoyi would register the title for you.

In Lagos and in Ogun State, they pay more attention to survey plan than they do in Oyo State and at the federal level.



The survey plan does not 'perfects the Deed of Assignment' but a prerequisite to having your deed of assignment registered.
Here is how it works in Lagos and why a registered Survey plan is important

1. Upon 'acquiring' a land in Lagos, the first thing to do is to draw up a survey plan.
2. The survey plan shows the coordinates, size of land, location, details of the land surveyor and acclaimed owner.
3. The plan is what your Lawyer needs to prepare the deed of assignment that would be executed between you and the vendor
NOTE
Items 1,2,3 above still doesn't make you the owner cause the Vendor that sold to you may not be the legal owner of that land.
4. After item 3, give the survey plan to your land surveyor to get it registered via NIS and Office of the Surveyor General
5. After registering the plan, attach to the deed of Assignment and take it to the lands registry
6. Land Registry would not start any process without first sending the survey plan back to the Office of the Surveyor General to obtain Land Information and confirm that the land is properly positioned and not under Government acquisition.
7. If your Survey plan passes item 6, it would be sent back to lands to start the process of Registering the Deed of Assignment.
8. This is when the real work starts. Land Registry will now start to dig deep into the root of title. Who sold it to you? Is there a dispute somewhere? Has the previous owner mortgaged the property? What is the position of the court? What is the position of LASG on it?
NOTE
Item 8 is the reason I said your Survey Plan does not make you the legal/lawful owner of the land. Your survey may pass at the Office of the Surveyor General and still fail at the land Registry.

If a Fraud is noticed at Lands Bureau, all the amount spent on acquiring the land or doing Survey has entered voice mail. The registrar of titles will never register that Deed of assignment for you. Hence, the registered survey plan is not more than a mere paper.

Survey plan is very crucial in the process of registering your Deed of Assignment, but that plan on it's own does not make you the owner of the land.

Take for instance, A man dies and willed his land to his 5 Children. The eldest (solely) among them decides to sell the land to you and you have a survey plan drawn. Of course you may pass at the office of the surveyor General and if possible pass at the Lands Bureau, obtain your consent or C of O. Just one thing will nullify your title and that is the day the other 4 children go to court that the land was sold to you without their consent, the court would set aside the transaction and issue an order that the Lagos State Governor revoke the C of O immediately and it would be done.
If this happen, the survey plan becomes useless.

What we always emphasize is root of title first.
You can buy land from the richest man in Nigeria who claims he owns the land and then spend N1 billion to do survey plan and have it Registered. These process still doesn't make you the owner of the land.



Once you carefully read my post above, you would know better the order of preference/importance

Thank you for doing justice to this, I totally agree with you sir, you deserve a bottle of wine sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 10:10pm On Jan 19, 2021
Enyinne:
Due to my lack of knowledge of using post office , I always ship my items to China address or Usa address but if i can discover how to use this post office , it will be to my benefit. So i can input my Nigeria address and any postal address of my choice.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:30pm On Jan 19, 2021
SurveyorGeo:


Thank you for doing justice to this, I totally agree with you sir, you deserve a bottle of wine sir.
Lol

But make sure it's non alcoholic.

I be man of God grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chikebrain: 10:49pm On Jan 19, 2021
Enyinne:
Due to my lack of knowledge of using post office , I always ship my items to China address or Usa address but if i can discover how to use this post office , it will be to my benefit. So i can input my Nigeria address and any postal address of my choice.

Please do not ship "important things" via post office.
Major issue is that it could get missing

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:51pm On Jan 19, 2021
Tomorrow, God willing, I'll do an expose on how you can get some of your items via Alibaba or AliExpress for members here who might want to try importing some items for home use.

Attached are some items I'm still expecting to be delivered next week.

Ceiling light. All ten pieces cost less than ₦4,000. In Nigeria, I thinking the price of these 10 items would be around ₦6,000 to ₦9,000

Then the second item is Video door bell. It cost less than ₦15,000. The cheapest one in Nigeria as advertised on Jiji/Jumia is about ₦22,000

With this, you can save some few thousands that you can use for other things

Don't call me stingy or Ijebu man.

Remember, our thread is for Kobo Kobo project owners. Hence, we've to support each other in saving some Kobo for other uses

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:53pm On Jan 19, 2021
twinskenny:
Hmmm
Wetin be this?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 1:22am On Jan 20, 2021
n3xt:


Exactly my point. I have a lot of clients that do 50m + plots but... it doesn’t just make any financial sense to me. Now, na hin money and he has the right to spend it anyhow he like.

Experience has shown us that most of these expensive properties ended up becoming ghost towns.

Let me give you an example of of how I’d recoup far more ROI in less than 5 years if I invest a quarter of that money elsewhere.

I’m currently investing in some virgin land that cost about 600k / plot in an area where land is currently sold at about N1.5m.
In the first phase, I’m working on about 6 acres which is about N22m.

All I intend to do is to is to clear the land, delineate it and sell in 2 years time for N3m.

The question now is “Will people buy?” Yes! The property is the only available plot in the location (with about 3,000 buildings) and it’s a waterfront property.

For now I’m still attracting investors in the project at N1m per plot.


_______

At the end of it all, what matters to me is ROI. Nothing more.
/
There is a time in a man's life when he has money sitting in accounts that he has no idea what to do with it. The man that builds N100m house is not doing it from money he saved over the years. The same goes for lands. I used to question people who buy Rolls Royce and drive it only on special days. A closer look tells that they are not bothered by other people's everyday financial worries. When you have steady flow of income from businesses, many houses and many automobiles, what else is there to entertain? It gets worse if the person has a huge ego. 10 bedroom houses en suite for a man with a wife and 2 kids? Oh well..

Personally, anything I am building in Nigeria must be from a loose change. I ain't about to stress myself unnecessarily. ROI is a dangerous terminology when investing in Nigeria these days.

/

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 1:46am On Jan 20, 2021
n3xt:

Edit:

The hungry fabricators at Gate Iron Market in Ibadan are requesting for measurements. They want to get it done ASAP.

I believe so much in Nigeria ��

This is a welcome development, if true but I'm not in those places. I might visit at the opportune time. I'm serious about this.

I'm thinking one of our resident artisans would run with the concept. Or window suppliers here could include in their stock.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:24am On Jan 20, 2021
michlins:
Not to ruin anyone's business but here's current prices of the attached materials

#70,000

#63,000

#3,500.

I'm currently where they're selling these materials to get what I need to do the job below and that's what I was told. Now how can he arrive at #25,000 per square meter
How many pieces of the Patten cost 70k, 63k, 3500k?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:43am On Jan 20, 2021
jabolo:


This is a welcome development, if true but I'm not in those places. I might visit at the opportune time. I'm serious about this.

I'm thinking one of our resident artisans would run with the concept. Or window suppliers here could include in their stock.

I’m doing one tomorrow. Those guys will not let me rest if I don’t do at least a sample.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:46am On Jan 20, 2021
InvertedHammer:

/
There is a time in a man's life when he has money sitting in accounts that he has no idea what to do with it. The man that builds N100m house is not doing it from money he saved over the years. The same goes for lands. I used to question people who buy Rolls Royce and drive it only on special days. A closer look tells that they are not bothered by other people's everyday financial worries. When you have steady flow of income from businesses, many houses and many automobiles, what else is there to entertain? It gets worse if the person has a huge ego. 10 bedroom houses en suite for a man with a wife and 2 kids? Oh well..

Personally, anything I am building in Nigeria must be from a loose change. I ain't about to stress myself unnecessarily. ROI is a dangerous terminology when investing in Nigeria these days.

/

Oracle have truly spoken.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 3:38am On Jan 20, 2021
n3xt:


Where's your location?

@mountmoriah @mastermovic are two verified suppliers of quality iron rods on kobocity.com
I'm sure they'll attend to this shortly.

ready to supply you anywhere in Nigeria, we accept payment on delivery

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