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Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by shadeyinka(m): 10:00pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You say it is mere INTERCESSION!? Intercession from hell fire? What does this mean? It means by default, Moslems are guilty of hell fire hence, in spite of all their religion hear on earth, they need Mohammed to PLEAD their case. If a person is NOT guilty,does he need intercession? AntiChristian:Unfortunately, early Islamic commentaries believes that ALL Moslems will ENTER Hell only that they would be REMOVED from it AFTER the intercession of Mohammed. Ibn Kathir’s Commentary Surah 19:71 Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished. Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, "EVERYONE SHALL ENTER IT." Also Sulaiman Ibn Murrah said THAT EVERYONE SHALL ENTER IT (hell). Then he placed his fingers near his ears and said, "I would have remained silent had I not heard the apostle of Allah -pbuh- say, ‘There shall not remain a righteous or sinful person but shall enter hell. To the believer the fire will be cool and pleasant as it was to Abraham to the point that hell will be noisy because the believers are cold. Then Allah will save those who have avoided (evil) and greatly torment the sinners in it.’" Also narrated by Hassan Ibn Arfa, narrated by Marwan Ibn Mu’awiya, narrated by Bahar Ibn Abu Marwan, narrated by Khalid Ibn Ma’dan who stated, "The people of paradise said after they entered paradise, ‘Didn’t our Lord promise that we will pass through hell?’ And they will be told, ‘You passed through it (hell) while it’s flames were calm.’ " Al-Jalalayn’s Commentary Surah 19:71 Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished. "Not one" means that there will be none. "Of you" means ALL PEOPLE. "But will pass through" means THE ENTRY INTO HELL. "A decree which must be accomplished" means it is a certainty and a judgment from which (Allah) will not relent from. Your early commentaries show that ALL you Moslems will enter the fire of Hell. I pity you! AntiChristian:Okay! The implication is that in Hell, both the polytheists AND the Moslems are on the Siraat bridge BUT Mohamed intercedes for the Moslems who are then removed and the polytheists left there on their knees. Meaning: ALL Moslems first enter Hell (on the bridge of siraat) but will be removed after the intercession of Mohammed. Abi, where is the bridge of siraat? Is it 1. leading to hell? 2. Over hell? Or 3. After hell? |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by Lashist(m): 10:21pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Lol...even you that used your hand to make ur moniker "antichristian" means you hate christians so much that you'd kill them just for your 72 virgins...you'll get ur virgins hopefully |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by AntiChristian: 7:47am On Jan 19, 2021 |
Lashist: Alhamdulillah! I have never killed and don't intend to anytime. Continue ranting! At least Antichristian get meaning. What's the meaning of your moniker? |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by Lashist(m): 8:01am On Jan 19, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Lol...it doesnt concern anything religion...maybe you have never killed but perhaps you are still harbouring such thoughts. You chose to be called antichristian which means have lots of dislike for people who are christians because of your 72 virgins...let's hope you get them soon |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by Maycash89(m): 7:48pm On Jan 20, 2021 |
AntiChristian:chat me up on my WhatsApp account 09065015289 I will tell you how I know this. |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by AntiChristian: 9:51am On Jan 22, 2021 |
Maycash89: All activities here ends here! |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by Maycash89(m): 10:38am On Jan 22, 2021 |
AntiChristian:The word of God is classified into 3 1) As a letter (Bible) 2) As a substance Word of the Spirit 2 Cor 3:6 3) As a personality (Jesus) I have the Word of God as a substance word of the spirit, which means it is a live me,that's what the apostles and men that work with God in the classified ages(Time) possess, which make them write down the scripture which you &I are reading today,it is a written truth;but I on the other hand is on a course to become a living truth. |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by VictorUSA(m): 1:52pm On Jan 22, 2021 |
InvertedHammer:Believe it or not,u're very stupid.How have CHRISTIANS cast aspersion on others and how have they condem others? be sane pls |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by VictorUSA(m): 1:54pm On Jan 22, 2021 |
JoeEeL:And u're becoming more dumb |
Re: Born Again: This Is The Only Way To Make Heaven by Kobojunkie: 7:02am On Jan 21, 2023 |
JesusSonOfGod:1. According to Jesus Christ, except a man be born-again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1- 8 - either through the Broad gate which leads to destruction(Hellfire) or the Narrow gate which leads to True Life(Heaven) at the end - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. What this means is that those who will have an end in Heaven(eternal reward) and those who will have their end in Hell(eternal damnation) are both born-again and hence have eternal life - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - meaning that clearly being born-again is not the way to guarantee an end in Heaven at all. Instead, Jesus Christ said it is those who through continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments — the Law and Truth of God — belong to Him - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 7 - 11-, and those of them who stand faithful until the end will be saved - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. 2. Recall that even the Pharisees studied scriptures hoping to find eternal life in them but failed and were destroyed in the end by God. No amount of studying and attending your so-called bible believing books will cause any man to make it into Heaven. And no, it is neither by starvation-diet fasting rituals and prayers. In the Kingdom of God, obedience is the key, and obedience to the details of the Gospels is what Jesus Christ insisted is the only way. |
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