I have been a Christian all my life, both catholic and Anglican. But recently I’ve been delving more deeply into the history of Nigeria and Africa as a whole, and what I keep on going back to is the speech done by one Lord Macaulay in Britain, who said that the only way to truly take over the Africans and Indians is by destroying their backbone which lies in their spirituality and mentally, he stole away our religions and made us feel inferior to theirs, how can we worship a deity that looks like our oppressors. That is why there are black peoples calling our religions demonic and wrong because they have been taught that everything British is good, and everything native is bad.

We as Africans need to go back to our ways, I started my journey yesterday I have been looking around in google, youtube, twitter etc. From what I’ve gathered, ifa is spread across more than 10 countries but just has a different name, there is ifa in Nigeria, Benin, Togo and even in central and South America whee it has different names like candomble, lucumi and vodun.

I don’t really understand how we worship the different Orishas, and how we go about acquiring everything we need, I would also like to learn how to get together with the spirits of my ancestors and how to receive ire from the Orishas. I have started this journey now and I have no plans on going back, everybody else in my family are chrisitians, but I feel the only way forward for us Africans is to go back to our roots and do what our forefathers did, our downfall was forgetting our past, but there is still time to grace it back and learn more from our elders, learn more of our past and learn of our ancestors

From everything I’ve read you cannot learn everything off of google, so I’m now on nairaland looking for someone who can guide me through this process on nairaland or twitter, or simply give me links to YouTube or google pages which can help me in my journey

Thank you

Pls pm me, let's grow together

Your article would have made a lot of sense to me without the highlighted!

Just say you want to appeal to adherents of none African religions, but as for Christians you're never one of us!

Abohboy:


I have been a Christian all my life both catholic and Anglican. But recently I’ve been delving more deeply into the history of Nigeria and Africa as a whole, and what I keep on going back to is the speech done by one Lord Macaulay in Britain, who said that the only way to truly take over the Africans and Indians is by destroying their backbone which lies in their spirituality and mentally, he stole away our religions and made us feel inferior to theirs, how can we worship a deity that looks like our oppressors. That is why there are black peoples calling our religions demonic and wrong because they have been taught that everything British is good, and everything native is bad.

We as Africans need to go back to our ways, I started my journey yesterday I have been looking around in google, youtube, twitter etc. From what I’ve gathered, ifa is spread across more than 10 countries but just has a different name, there is ifa in Nigeria, Benin, Togo and even in central and South America whee it has different names like candomble, lucumi and vodun.

I don’t really understand how we worship the different Orishas, and how we go about acquiring everything we need, I would also like to learn how to get together with the spirits of my ancestors and how to receive ire from the Orishas. I have started this journey now and I have no plans on going back, everybody else in my family are chrisitians, but I feel the only way forward for us Africans is to go back to our roots and do what our forefathers did, our downfall was forgetting our past, but there is still time to grace it back and learn more from our elders, learn more of our past and learn of our ancestors

From everything I’ve read you cannot learn everything off of google, so I’m now on nairaland looking for someone who can guide me through this process on nairaland or twitter, or simply give me links to YouTube or google pages which can help me in my journey

Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
Your article would have made a lot of sense to me without the highlighted!

Just say you want to appeal to adherents of none African religions, but as for Christians you're never one of us!

I know op ain't available now so I'll just speak to you a bit..f**k Christianity... F**k your stupid white jesus...and f**k whoever that is still practicing that abomination of a religion designed to enslave Africans...

So your Christianity is not a thing of pride dear, its a thing of shame...

The nairaland platform you are currently using was built by an atheist.. So run along and look for a Christian forum to paint your Christianity(slave) mentality..

MaxInDHouse:
Your article would have made a lot of sense to me without the highlighted!

Just say you want to appeal to adherents of none African religions, but as for Christians you're never one of us!

Paradise people.. You want to live forever in paradise but die you no wan die...una dey here dey drag palliative with other people..

Soulrebel2:


I know op ain't available now so I'll just speak to you a bit..f**k Christianity... F**k your stupid white jesus...and f**k whoever that is still practicing that abomination of a religion designed to enslave Africans...

So your Christianity is not a thing of pride dear, its a thing of shame...

The nairaland platform you are currently using was built by an atheist.. So run along and look for a Christian forum to paint your Christianity(slave) mentality..

Why are you crying more than the bereaved, I see tears all over your post. Did a Christian steal your wife?

Nuttella:
Why are you crying more than the bereaved, I see tears all over your post. Did a Christian steal your wife?

They can't dare naa bro... Ama slice the neega open..

I'm not worried about you guys oo..my worry is what you as parents or soon to be will teach your children..will u still force this abomination on them?..like force them to go to church and shit..because that is exactly what religion is..it was forced and still forced on us by people like you and your cohort that has been brainwashed obviously, the list goes on..its a cancer that eat into generation of people, its hereditary and that is exactly what it was designed to do..people of Israelite(I laugh in Swahili) oya go now make them give you visa make I see..shebi na this same people u go share heaven with?..they won't share their country with you and you expect them to share their fictional heaven with you?

And before you say any religious crap, not everyone have the mental power to reject the enslavers mentality.. A lot of Africans including you obviously are led by herd mentality, they can't think for themselves(so they just dey follow crowd)...so that is why we have the movement to educate young black children on their history.. Because I believe an adult that still chooses to be ignorant is his/her fault but our young kings and queens do most things because it was forced on them by their ignorant and brainwashed and white washed parents..

MaxInDHouse:
Your article would have made a lot of sense to me without the highlighted!

Just say you want to appeal to adherents of none African religions, but as for Christians you're never one of us!

Our paths cross again ! O yes, the OP does not understand Christianity. The yoke that we are praying to completely leave African continent is what he wants to put on.
'Thus saith the Lord, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God. Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols. Isaiah 45: 14 -16
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Exodus 34 :14

The first scripture I believe is the reason for slave trade, our fathers observed the oyinbos are compared the to their gods and concluded that oyinbo is superior. Hence, we have names like Fatoyinbo, Oguntoyinbo. etc. We not only practice wrong spirituality in Africa, the gods have made us wrong people on the globe. What has those idols benefited us but confusion and shame?
The OP does not understand what he wants to go into, the nonsense is deep rooted in a terrible covenant that will continue to hunt his generations.
I totally agree with you on this one, he is not a Christian.

Why the bitterness all over you?

Simply saying the OP is none of us doesn't mean i or anyone else meant to harm him, it's just a simple way of telling him i know how you feel about the current situation and condition of your people in Africa, but don't misconstrue issues if you want to practice the African religion you're free to do so. Don't claim you've been a lorry driver when you can't even ride a bicycle

As for the bolded, it shows how quickly you run to wrong conclusion about religions without deep thoughts. People don't need to die before entering Paradise because Paradise will be established here on earth not going to some imaginary place!

Soulrebel2:

Paradise people.. You want to live forever in paradise but die you no wan die...una dey here dey drag palliative with other people..

The Nairaland platform today gets more traffic on the religion section than any other, so that means even when the owner doesn't believe in God he still enjoy the company of those who do!
Let him shut down the religious section and see how much he'll be making without religionists on his forum!

As for slavery, it's your black brothers who were dealing with white slave traders that made slavery a money making venture. So don't blame that on any religion!

Your black ancestors who usually sell off their black brothers and sisters to slave traders never worshiped the white god, they were worshipers of their own black gods. Please let that sink into your empty skull!

So if we're now talking about the form of worship that appeals to each individual it has nothing to do with what people in ancient times does for a living, whites and blacks deal in slave trade.

And as for Jesus well he was a Jew who preached and taught people how to form a global family of peace loving worshipers and that global family is here today, there is no god whether white or black that has succeeded in bringing people from different races under one umbrella and taking away weapons out of their hands so that they now embrace one another like brothers and sisters except the God that sent Jesus of Nazareth to counsel people.

So you need Jesus to be wise and come out of the foolishness that racism brought upon you!

Soulrebel2:

I know op ain't available now so I'll just speak to you a bit..f**k Christianity... F**k your stupid white jesus...and f**k whoever that is still practicing that abomination of a religion designed to enslave Africans...
So your Christianity is not a thing of pride dear, its a thing of shame...
The nairaland platform you are currently using was built by an atheist.. So run along and look for a Christian forum to paint your Christianity(slave) mentality..

I can see you really feel like growing together in the spirit with others around you but it's a pity you're looking for PEACE where you can never find it!

All these religions that people left for the Bible and Qur'an has their roots thousands of years ago even before God called Abraham out from the East.

God's plan is to establish one form of worship that will prove to be the most beneficial to the adherents than all other forms of worship in the world {Isaiah 2:2-4} today where are all the gods that people worshiped before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob established the Israelites as a nation? Well all those gods has been completely silenced, they're now disguising as angels of light as they're gathering worshipers afresh in the name of Jesus! 2Corinthians 11:14

You will notice so many different religious settings where people are claiming Christians but if you carefully study them closely you will grasp that it's those spirits people worshiped in ancient times like
Osun, Obatala, Ògùn, Sango, and many others that your black brothers are worshipping today in the name of Christianity!
When worshipers put on white garments and goes about barefooted, when you see worshipers calling down fire and thunder on their enemies, when you see women dressed without jewelries, when you see worshipers always going to the rivers to birth, when you see them having different codes yet claiming they belong to one Jesus know today that it's those spirits they're trying to abandon that has taken them unaware!

So calm down and learn from true Christians what is happening in the spiritual realms!

Soulrebel2:

Pls pm me, let's grow together

Soulrebel2:



They can't dare naa bro... Ama slice the neega open..

I'm not worried about you guys oo..my worry is what you as parents or soon to be will teach your children..will u still force this abomination on them?..like force them to go to church and shit..because that is exactly what religion is..it was forced and still forced on us by people like you and your cohort that has been brainwashed obviously, the list goes on..its a cancer that eat into generation of people, its hereditary and that is exactly what it was designed to do..people of Israelite(I laugh in Swahili) oya go now make them give you visa make I see..shebi na this same people u go share heaven with?..they won't share their country with you and you expect them to share their fictional heaven with you?

And before you say any religious crap, not everyone have the mental power to reject the enslavers mentality.. A lot of Africans including you obviously are led by herd mentality, they can't think for themselves(so they just dey follow crowd)...so that is why we have the movement to educate young black children on their history.. Because I believe an adult that still chooses to be ignorant is his/her fault but our young kings and queens do most things because it was forced on them by their ignorant and brainwashed and white washed parents..

Practice your African tradition, let me practice my Christianity, no one is stopping you from being a herbalist or a traditionist, you can continue dinning with demons and water spirits, I want to dine with the King of kings and Lord of lords, no one forced me to know God on a personal level, I sought him myself and found out he actually exist, like I will always say its better I die than for me not to worship and serve God. Now that is the level of my trust and faith in him. You can continue crying us a river, your tears will full a drum. And yes my children will be Christians too. God will reveal his power to them and they will believe like I did, I don't serve a powerless God.

MaxInDHouse:
The Nairaland platform today gets more traffic on the religion section than any other, so that means even when the owner doesn't believe in God he still enjoy the company of those who do!
Let him shut down the religious section and see how much he'll be making without religionists on his forum!

As for slavery, it's your black brothers who were dealing with white slave traders that made slavery a money making venture. So don't blame that on any religion!

Your black ancestors who usually sell off their black brothers and sisters to slave traders never worshiped the white god, they were worshipers of their own black gods. Please let that sink into your empty skull!

So if we're now talking about the form of worship that appeals to each individual it has nothing to do with what people in ancient times does for a living, whites and blacks deal in slave trade.

And as for Jesus well he was a Jew who preached and taught people how to form a global family of peace loving worshipers and that global family is here today, there is no god whether white or black that has succeeded in bringing people from different races under one umbrella and taking away weapons out of their hands so that they now embrace one another like brothers and sisters except the God that sent Jesus of Nazareth to counsel people.

So you need Jesus to be wise and come out of the foolishness that racism brought upon you!

Lol, I don't need a fictional character to be saved...its like saying you believe in spider man or Batman or Zeus or Olympus.. Jesus of Nazareth?... Are you even serious?...hold up let me school you..there is nobody named Jesus in history or in the bible... Read the original Hebrew Bible before you come here to sample your ignorant and gullible mind....the name was yeshua(if he was even real) which means Joshua in English....so where did your Jesus of Nazareth come from?...pity..you said about black people selling slaves, when their Gods have been destroyed (that which Bond them together).. What else do you expect?..

I'm sorry for you people really.. I'm deeply sorry for y'all... You said our people was at fault by seeing the white people as their gods...so my question is this.. Who do you see as your god?..if not a white man with blue eyes and long hair?

Revelation 1:15. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace;(does this look like a white man with blue eyes to you?..)


Wake up oh yee brainwashed fellow,

MaxInDHouse:
I can see you really feel like growing together in the spirit with others around you but it's a pity you're looking for PEACE where you can never find it!

All these religions that people left for the Bible and Qur'an has their roots thousands of years ago even before God called Abraham out from the East.

God's plan is to establish one form of worship that will prove to be the most beneficial to the adherents than all other forms of worship in the world {Isaiah 2:2-4} today where are all the gods that people worshiped before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob established the Israelites as a nation? Well all those gods has been completely silenced, they're now disguising as angels of light as they're gathering worshipers afresh in the name of Jesus! 2Corinthians 11:14

You will notice so many different religious settings where people are claiming Christians but if you carefully study them closely you will grasp that it's those spirits people worshiped in ancient times like
Osun, Obatala, Ògùn, Sango, and many others that your black brothers are worshipping today in the name of Christianity!
When worshipers put on white garments and goes about barefooted, when you see worshipers calling down fire and thunder on their enemies, when you see women dressed without jewelries, when you see worshipers always going to the rivers to birth, when you see them having different codes yet claiming they belong to one Jesus know today that it's those spirits they're trying to abandon that has taken them unaware!

So calm down and learn from true Christians what is happening in the spiritual realms!

Hahahahahahah..I can't stop laughing.. Look at how you described other forms of Christianity, but you know refused to describe your practice?.. How do you know that your believe is d/f from theirs..


Is there any prove that your practice is genuine? (Except from 'god said' that your pastor keep telling you)

The chosen church will tell you that practice is genuine that other church is not genuine same with deeper life and other churches.. And everyone believes their practice is the genuine Christianity (I laugh in Swahili)....

Oh great Africa where have we gone wrong?..we were once kings and queens from the great kingdom of kemet and the great kingdom of Nubian....now look at us now..sucking the white man's dick..

I weep

MaxInDHouse:
Why the bitterness all over you?

Simply saying the OP is none of us doesn't mean i or anyone else meant to harm him, it's just a simple way of telling him i know how you feel about the current situation and condition of your people in Africa, but don't misconstrue issues if you want to practice the African religion you're free to do so. Don't claim you've been a lorry driver when you can't even ride a bicycle

As for the bolded, it shows how quickly you run to wrong conclusion about religions without deep thoughts. People don't need to die before entering Paradise because Paradise will be established here on earth not going to some imaginary place!

I'm a logical thinker my dear..I don't believe in fairy tales..bring proof other than 'he said and she said' and the unproven book called bible..

Bring a reasonable proof the support your claims.. I don't know everything.. I'm an open minded person..I try to learn whenever I can..I didn't jump into conclusion..I just stated the fact..and now you have said again that you don't need to die before going to heaven, that shows how confused people are...someone will sleep and wake up and tell his members that God said this and that..that god said that watching of TV is a sin, that god said that wearing of jewelry is a sin, and wearing of trousers is a sin... And the same person came back again and allowed his members to start using TV (is it that god now goes back on his word?)

I've realised that a lot of people practice Christianity because they want to feel among(which I once did) and have regretted every minute of it... Its called 'herd mentality'

I'm given you facts... Give me proven facts other than 'he said she said'

Soulrebel2:

Read the original Hebrew Bible

It's like you love making research to dig deeper for Wisdom. That makes you a sound student if not for any religion yet. But one thing you have to erase from your mind first is nepotism/racism.
No matter how smart you are those two can blur your insight completely.
The Hebrew Bible i know very well, for your information i am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, the world's number one global research team when it comes to religious issues.
So Jesus is a real historical figure, it takes more than just one witness to verify facts of matters that is if you're truly interested in ascertaining the real facts!

Who do you see as your god?

Of course i can see (with my eyes closed) a God who is able to gather people from different races throughout the earth under one umbrella to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.
You asked the OP to pm you so that you can both grow together, that really sounds wise because you can't do something good to benefit everyone around you alone.
But i've already found a global family of peace loving worshipers all growing together as one big family with the same line of thought.

In North America, South America, Asia, Africa, Europe and Australia i can boast of people living there either black or white with whom i share the same line of thought. And guess what? If i should travel to any of these continents today, my brothers and sisters are longing to welcome me HOME and embrace me with Joy all in the name of Jesus Christ from Nazareth!

So if you don't believe that he lives try and work out something benefitial like that using the name of any God you deem fit. Matthew 5:13-16
Let's see if there's any God on this planet that can achieve such apart from the God who sent Jesus to all mankind!

Just by using a simple logic!

THEORIES
PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS
BENEFITS

Whatever your religion teaches are just like theories found in the textbooks so there's no need being pigheaded over what your religion say if not put to practice. Therefore you need to know the practical application of what you were taught to believe as this will help you in getting busy with others who also believe in what you learned.
If after applying what you learned there is no benefits enjoyed by you and your fellow believers then know that everything has been trash from the onset!

That's the simple test to uncover falsehood!

Soulrebel2:

Is there any prove that your practice is genuine?

Whenever you say something, people will say 'why are you so bitter'...I am not and will never be...I'm just speaking my truth..u get offended when someone says something that contradict with your belief but Christian go around disturbing people on the street, on the bus and even in their various houses... That is called being a hypocrite

I studied psychology so I'm not surprised... Its the way our Brain fight off information that contradict to what we think its true..(whether what we believe is true or false)

I'm sure by the time you read my latest posts you will have a different outlook about true Christianity!

Soulrebel2:

I'm a logical thinker my dear..I don't believe in fairy tales..bring proof other than 'he said and she said' and the unproven book called bible..
Bring a reasonable proof the support your claims.. I don't know everything.. I'm an open minded person..I try to learn whenever I can..I didn't jump into conclusion..I just stated the fact..and now you have said again that you don't need to die before going to heaven, that shows how confused people are...someone will sleep and wake up and tell his members that God said this and that..that god said that watching of TV is a sin, that god said that wearing of jewelry is a sin, and wearing of trousers is a sin... And the same person came back again and allowed his members to start using TV (is it that god now goes back on his word?)
I've realised that a lot of people practice Christianity because they want to feel among(which I once did) and have regretted every minute of it... Its called 'herd mentality'
I'm given you facts... Give me proven facts other than 'he said she said'

MaxInDHouse:
Just by using a simple logic!

THEORIES
PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS
BENEFITS

Whatever your religion teaches are just like theories found in the textbooks so there's no need being pigheaded over what your religion say if not put to practice. Therefore you need to know the practical application of what you were taught to believe as this will help you in getting busy with others who also believe in what you learned.
If after applying what you learned there is no benefits enjoyed by you and your fellow believers then know that everything has been trash from the onset!

That's the simple test to uncover falsehood!

Nigerians really put religion in practice and where has that got us..capital of poverty in the world while our pastors are the richest... China and Europe train engineers and doctors and scientists and what do we train?..pastors!...shame!

My friend,

KNOWLEDGE is just the accumulation of useful information, of course everyone around you have one thing or another in their brains they call KNOWLEDGE.

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which brings lasting benefits for it's users.

So think of how what you know is benefitting you along with other adherents around you and globally. If you can't figure that out then it means you'll continue to be bitter inside while denying it before others!

Soulrebel2:

Whenever you say something, people will say 'why are you so bitter'...I am not and will never be...I'm just speaking my truth..u get offended when someone says something that contradict with your belief but Christian go around disturbing people on the street, on the bus and even in their various houses... That is called being a hypocrite

I studied psychology so I'm not surprised... Its the way our Brain fight off information that contradict to what we think its true..(whether what we believe is true or false)

So what are you saying now?
Are you saying religion is the problem of Africa?

My friend, it's the attitude of people around you that will affect you and others not what someone brought to you from a distant land.

Polygamy, uncontrolled birth and nepotism is the problem destroying the blacks not religion!

In 1959 before the independent, Great Britain has about 50 million people as their total population, that same year Nigeria was about the same figure. They maintained that figure by keeping their population growth in check but what about Nigeria? Today we are almost 300 million and you're here talking about religion.
What has religion got to do with that?
An average white man will live with his wife without a single child and when they're old they'll die leaving what they own for the government to use for the benefit of other citizens.
Your own black brother will marry up to five women just to be called a father of multitude and when he dies the children will start killing one another because that's what our people believes!

So tell me how does religion come in here?

Soulrebel2:

Nigerians really put religion in practice and where has that got us..capital of poverty in the world while our pastors are the richest... China and Europe train engineers and doctors and scientists and what do we train?..pastors!...shame!

MaxInDHouse:
My friend,

KNOWLEDGE is just the accumulation of useful information, of course everyone around you have one thing or another in their brains they call KNOWLEDGE.

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which brings lasting benefits for it's users.

So think of how what you know is benefitting you along with other adherents around you and globally. If you can't figure that out then it means you'll continue to be bitter inside while denying it before others!

There is nothing like wisdom without knowledge... U can't think if you don't know...information don't just fall from heaven(forget the drama your pastors are doing in the pulpit, god said this and that..he didn't say shit)..how can you claim to be wise when you only look at an issue from one perspective.. (Its called being closed-minded)..

MaxInDHouse:
My friend,

KNOWLEDGE is just the accumulation of useful information, of course everyone around you have one thing or another in their brains they call KNOWLEDGE.

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which brings lasting benefits for it's users.

So think of how what you know is benefitting you along with other adherents around you and globally. If you can't figure that out then it means you'll continue to be bitter inside while denying it before others!

This is the same thing I was saying.. That is all you have to say, that I'm bitter.. That's all..give me proof.. You'll say bible did this and that.. How come we were only 50million when the white man came?..or didn't we practice polygamy before?.. How come our numbers started rising drastically after colonization?..


Think!..stop being closed-minded

PS. I have been fighting and preaching about birth control for as long as I can remember..nobody said our ancestors were perfect.. They had their flaws.. Polygamy worked for them back them because they can get enough children to help with their enormous farmland, that was the reason for polygamy back then...this
is what happens when you mix the white mans religion with your tradition.. It brings confusion..there was nothing like AIDS or tuberculosis back then, the white man brought this diseases with them..and look at what is happening now..another disease... If not for technology they would have pinned the disease to Africa and blamed us for it..

Nepotism u say?...who made that possible?(your precious white men!)..

They know that the north and the east should have never been joined together but they also know that we'll be busy fighting over ourselves while they exploit our resources...

Same IFA your ancestors practiced and were overrun by Jesus inspires colonialists. Keep going back to your unproductive roots. What we need is to truly break free from that root and let Jesus take control only then will we progress.

So it's not about religion then it's foresight (Wisdom)

Soulrebel2:
Nepotism u say?...who made that possible?(your precious white men!)..

They know that the north and the east should have never been joined together but they also know that we'll be busy fighting over ourselves while they exploit our resources...

You're boiling too hot my friend so calm down a bit!

I said knowledge is the "accumulation of useful information" while Wisdom is the "practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefits"

So knowledge comes before wisdom but wisdom is put knowledge to it's best use!

Soulrebel2:

There is nothing like wisdom without knowledge... U can't think if you don't know...information don't just fall from heaven(forget the drama your pastors are doing in the pulpit, god said this and that..he didn't say shit)..how can you claim to be wise when you only look at an issue from one perspective.. (Its called being closed-minded)..

CodeTemplar:
Same IFA your ancestors practiced and were overrun by Jesus inspires colonialists. Keep going back to your unproductive roots. What we need is to truly break free from that root and let Jesus take control only then will we progress.

Really?..majority of Nigerians are Christian and my dear where is the progress?...Christians are one of the most poorest people in Nigeria while their leaders are one of richest..and your colleague there was talking about nepotism when it's clearly written all over Christianity (I laugh in Swahili)

Soulrebel2:



Really?..majority of Nigerians are Christian and my dear where is the progress?...Christians are one of the most poorest people in Nigeria while their leaders are one of richest..and your colleague there was talking about nepotism when it's clearly written all over Christianity (I laugh in Swahili)

So according to you, we are better off then than we are now right?

MaxInDHouse:
You're boiling too hot my friend so calm down a bit!

I said knowledge is the "accumulation of useful information" while Wisdom is the "practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefits"

So knowledge comes before wisdom but wisdom is put knowledge to it's best use!

OK..then put your wisdom to the test here...what benefits has Christianity done to the poor or the masses except draining them of their hard earned money and promising them of a mysterious miracle...so Christians are now money doublers?

U said something about giving birth unnecessary... Note that many people I have met and counselled on birth control all have the 'God would provide' mindset making them give birth unnecessary hoping that it is god that would train their children and that god of Isaac and Jacob will provide for them(in their own words not mine)