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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by meekmill(m): 1:22pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
nnadychuks: Including tiles? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:24pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
segzyfunmi: Ok. Pls share your building plan. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 1:27pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Happy Sunday. As regards the situation, I have said it times without number that it's advisable for clients, project sponsor or home owners to hire independent professional to assess the construction cost of their projects especially in a relatively high end construction. To have a contractor to submit his quotation for a project to a client, to be assessed, who has no knowledge of construction processes will not be fair to the clients at all. Even if the clients insist on buying all the materials as quoted and subsequently monitor the usage of such, there's still no way for the client to know the fair cost of required labour for such project. Hence, the client is still very likely to lose a good amount of money to labour cost. That's why professional Quantity Surveyors are trained to be an independent cost assessor of construction enterprises which ranges from building to roads, bridges to railway, and what have you. In your case, the best bet is to let us have the drawings and advise on the cost consequently. As regards 5% supervisory fee, it's subject to review. However, in a standard contract with reputable and registered construction firms, 15 to 35% or even higher (case in point: Julius Berger) is normally charged to the actual cost of construction for overheads and profit. segzyfunmi: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by seborrhic: 1:29pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
KolaShangOne:Sorry. Your explanation makes sense. It was d way it was originally conveyed that necessitated my response 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:33pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
bixton: Taking another look in regards to your response, I can now infer that the BOQ states the foundation cost is 3 million. So 5% of 3 million is 150k. I got this wrong then. But the focal elements of my take are in order: # BOQ should be prepared independently of the resident engineer/builder. #Circa 100k is a decent fee for the supervision. # It is advisable to get further quotes. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segzyfunmi: 1:37pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Chekitaut: Thanks. In that case, pls list your current price of 9" block, 50kg Dangote cement, 30tonnes granite, sharp sand etc |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 1:42pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Happy Sunday. I admire your proactive thinking. If the building has complete architectural drawings, then the roof design would have been included. In order to assess the cost you can post the first floor plan, roof plan, sections and elevations to check if the original roof design can be achievable with your budget of 1.8million. If the original roof design is not achievable with your budget, then it can be redesigned perhaps a lower Kingpost can be recommended among other options, to suit your budget. Let's start by having your building plans first. opy2com: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 1:58pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:06pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
diordaves: The word decent fee seems like something of modesty. ![]() ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segzyfunmi: 2:08pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
diordaves: Thanks for your input. The drawings are with my uncle at the moment. Is there no way I can get an approximate value for the labour cost? Pls read my first post for the description of the job to be done. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segzyfunmi: 2:10pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:18pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
QSFemi: Are you insinuating that the person may likely not be reputable so he is not entitled to a standard contract probably he does not own a registered company? Is it owning a company that makes one reputable or it's the reverse? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 2:24pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
bixton: You might be right. House was designed and carcass built by Harney. Brown stones were only added for staircase cast and upper floor lintel and pillars when granite finished. Parapet was granite chips. Laterite sandfill from dug well and suckaway Mix ratio if I remember was 1/3/5. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 2:27pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
somehow:You are absolutely right. It was emphasized during the architectural design stage. Harney guys removed all unnecessary spaces, I have only one balcony and mostly straight lines and not complex use of space. The building is approx 11m by 11m square. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 2:36pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
spyder880: Thanks Sir My eyes on that Orlu zone 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 2:52pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
n3xt:It's good, Unique and flexible. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 2:54pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
There's no place in my writing I insinuated that the person isn't reputable. A reputable contractor will have a registered firm with CAC, a physical office, verifiable tax remittances, experienced and qualified staff in their different professional calling, evidence of remittances of VAT among other many pre-qualification requirements. What we normally get on most projects posted here is having a project supervisor which could be an engineer, architect, builder, QS or what have you, that is hired by the client informally (informal because no contract was signed between the client and the project supervisor) to supervise the building. This doesn't mean that the project supervisor isn't competent. Get my point please. bixton: 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:11pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
ceelog: Okay, noted. Thanks for the update. 1 Like |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PrimeQuay: 4:02pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Happy Sunday, I totally agree with this point of view i.e engaging a QS who is independent of the project. However in my limited experience, bill of material and labor does vary from QS to QS. how does one eliminate inconsistencies. Ive also noticed that engineers might markup labor costs (especially) in order to increase the total, resulting to a higher figure if they are working on %. QSFemi: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cool318(m): 4:03pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Good evening able builders , suppliers and prospective clients. It's a great pleasure stepping into this learning arena. Pls my question is this: Is it cost effective for somebody outside the country (Asia) to be precise, to shop for home fittings like: WC's, lights and fittings ( both indoor & Outdoor), Television and home theater, AC's, curtains and fittings, kitchen cabinets, wrought irons for rails and fancy doors, solar street lights & CCTV etc. Please, experienced expert advice is needed in terms of the cost of Container and shipping charges. Is it cheaper over there as one is buying in bulk. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:08pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
segzyfunmi: Without the plan, the figures here are just ballpark figures but this will give you an insight into how this is done: #Digging the foundation of 3 bedrooms aim for 50k. (In Abeokuta, this might be tricky as the town can be rocky and difficult to dig but then again, because of the terrain you may not need a very deep foundation to get to stable soil). Blinding aim from 35k The setting of foundation block: I don't know how big is you flat, but let's guess 1300 blocks with a high foundation. To lay one block is N50. so 50x1300 = N65k Iron Bender to tie the basket and columns: aim from N35k Carpenter formwork aim from: 10k The casting of the Columns: For three bedrooms, depending on your design, your total columns should be around 16 columns. To cast one column aim from 1k per column. So 1x16 = N16,000 Foundation and back filling aim for: 15K Wetting of foundation (compacting) - 1k Casting of German floor aim from: 10k Total Labour: N237k These figures are highly debatable but hopefully, you should now have an idea on the direction of travel. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:48pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
cool318:davodguy dey import from there so why not take advantage of it since you're already there |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Amastermovic(m): 4:51pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
diordaves: BLINDING COST 35K y is casting of german floor now 10k pls guide me . 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:06pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Amastermovic: The way I see it is that blinding is more intricate and time consuming work than casting of german floor. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 5:09pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Hiring a QS for your project is one of the smartest decisions that will save you lots of money as a client, project sponsor or building owner. As regards different QS arriving at a significantly different project costs, some reasons can be attributed to that; 1) Inadequate drawings. Some projects especially that involve 2 or more floors might have only architectural drawings without even having structural drawings. M&E drawings are non existent in most cases. In this scenario, that means the Quantity Surveyors will have to make "reasonable assumptions" of the structural elements in the building based on experience and competence. 2) Difference in specifications. Lots of important specifications are always missing on even drawings. In an ideal setting, a QS is supposed to send a "query" to either the design Architect or Engineer as the case may be to get a clarification on such items. In a situation where the QS has no express access to the designers - Architect or Engineer, the QS has to make "reasonable assumptions". Making reasonable assumptions is a very important part of QS training. 3) Competence of the QS of course. 4) Estimating information and pricing details used by the QS. This include market price of materials, labour rate, preliminaries pricing, overheads pricing etc. 5) Arithmetic errors in the bill of quantities. Quantity Surveyors are humans and as such do make arithmetic errors in the bill of quantities. That's why during tendering such as open or competitive tendering for a project where a number of contractors bid for such, one of the things the consultant QS will do after opening of bids is to check for arithmetic errors in the submitted bids and make corrections. That's why whenever I receive quotations either from contractors, subcontractors or suppliers, the first I do is to check for arithmetic errors. 6) Method of procurement of the proposed building. There are many methods of procurement of projects with their pros and cons and that consequently have a considerable effect on the overall construction cost. 7) Nature of the project and the expected technical expertise required. You don't expect a project that require the expertise of Cappa D Alberto or Julius Berger to have the same contract sum for one that will be done by Femi and Son Construction Company even for the same type of project. ![]() Let me just stop here. There are still tons of other factors. PrimeQuay: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kolnel: 5:19pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
hey house, please I need ideas of car port, costs et al. project in Ibadan thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PrimeQuay: 5:39pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
Well said. I'm sure many on this forum including myself will benefit from your insights. For most of us here, projects undertaken will not require the likes of JB & Cappa (I may be wrong) so we will gladly work with Femi & sons. The keyword I keyed into here is "Competence of the QS" Keep up the good work sir! QSFemi: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by westliverenterp: 5:40pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
What is the cost of floor and wall tiles now |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segzyfunmi: 5:45pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
diordaves: Thanks and God bless you. For once, someone here understood my question. This breakdown in stages was what I asked for. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 5:54pm On Jan 24, 2021 |
kolnel:starts at #200k here in Nnewi for 20ft The more expensive one that comes with damper rubber instead of nets starts at 500k 1 Like
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