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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:43pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:


The team that won Uefa cup final and beat Real Madrid in Super cup became rubbish to you few weeks later for the 98/99 season, right? Yet Man utd only led them with just 4 points at the end of the season. You are trying hard but failed woefully.

Prove that other teams were rubbish when United won in 99.



Conceding 27 goals and losing 2 matches, to win the league is not a record.



You can use it to measure the quality of a team in that season like you and Raumdeuter always pointed out.



Man city was the best team in Epl that season as other big teams were sleeping. But the best team EVER?. Not when some of us watched Giggs, Beckham, Andy Cole, Yorke attacking football that year.

Man city 100points team in the league faced a Liverpol that was CL finalist, they faced a Spurs that made the CL final next season, they faced Arsenal and Chelsea who made Europa finals a season later, they faced a Man Utd who won Europa cup a season before

Abeg who were the teams within the league that Chelsea of 2004 and Man Utd of 1999 faced? and what were their pedigree?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:44pm On Jan 24, 2021
Godx:

Nobody asked you for better/stronger. A4.0 used Manchester city Centurion league achievement to proclaim them the greatest side in premier league history. Nobody can argue against that when they have numerous league records to back it up. Instead of attacking that point you have been doing whataboutism asking about Villanova Barca, England team and France team.

I attacked the point by not using number which I have consistently been doing but the problem is with you lot that switch from numbers to other metrics depending on the agenda you want to pass across.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:47pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


That is his modus operadi. Just like he started comparing Ballack and Kdb to Mata, later Wijnaldum later Anderson later stanley Okoro, later Haruna Ilerika


That one na your problem .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:48pm On Jan 24, 2021
popizaino:
That one na your problem .

Ballack and Didier Zokora which one is better?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:49pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


Ballack and Didier Zokora which one is better?



Dayo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On Jan 24, 2021
popizaino:

Dayo

Who is better John Terry or Dayot Upamecano?

Ronald De Boer or Roland Ewere?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:51pm On Jan 24, 2021
So, in other words

Stats are not allowed to COMPARE and CONTRAST , in some case?

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:52pm On Jan 24, 2021
izzou:
So, in other words

Stats are not allowed to COMPARE and CONTRAST , in some case?

grin

If you are doing something good in football, there is a stat to measure it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:54pm On Jan 24, 2021
popizaino:
Dayo

What of between Godwin Okpara and Godwin Obaseki?

What of between Petr Cech and Peter Odili

Mohamed Salah and Mohamed Buhari
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:54pm On Jan 24, 2021
Skimpledawgg:

Oh mehn Doc, Bruno gats slow down abeg

smiley
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:55pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


If you are doing something good in football, there is a stat to measure it

Well, I have been seeing words like Better and Stronger instead of showing numbers or trophies (like you usually advice)

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:59pm On Jan 24, 2021
izzou:


Well, I have been seeing words like Better and Stronger instead of showing numbers or trophies (like you usually advice)


Better and stronger needs evidence of strenght. Bayern of 2020 is better than Chelsea by beating them black and blue 7-1 aggregates

Man City has 100points, highest number of wins, highest number of goals in EPL to show they are the best EPL side ever

What do other contenders for that spot have to show

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:01pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


Better and stronger needs evidence of strenght

Man City has 100points, highest number of wins, highest number of goals in EPL to show they are the best EPL side ever

What do other contenders for that spot have to show

I quite agree with you on this.

But someone talked about Wijnaldum >>>>> Ballack?

You didn't clear the air on this, sir grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:03pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


[s]Man city 100points team in the league faced a Liverpol that was CL finalist[/s], they faced a Spurs that made the CL final next season, [s]they faced Arsenal and Chelsea who made Europa finals a season later, they faced a Man Utd who won Europa cup a season before

Abeg who were the teams within the league that Chelsea of 2004 and Man Utd of 1999 faced? and what were their pedigree?[/s]


grin grin grin

The emboldened is ridiculous.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:04pm On Jan 24, 2021
izzou:
I quite agree with you on this.

But someone talked about Wijnaldum >>>>> Ballack?

You didn't clear the air on this, sir grin

Is it every foolish talk one will respond to?

I have asked for evidence of Petr Cech better than Peter Odili

Ballack took his mediocre teams to a major final by being the best player in that team

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:06pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:
grin grin grin
The emboldened is ridiculous.

But its not ridiculous to talk about a club winning the 3rd rated European trophy called winners cup a season earlier
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:08pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


But its not ridiculous to talk about a club winning the 3rd rated European trophy called winners cup a season earlier

You said they played a Spurs team that made UCL final next season. grin

So Aston Villa that beat Liverpool this season was strong last season because of that. grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:08pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


Is it every foolish talk one will respond to?

I have asked for evidence of Petr Cech better than Peter Odili

Ballack took his mediocre teams to a major final by being the best player in that team

But my Lord, if I may. May I, my Lord?

Wijnaldum has a Champions League medal and a Super cup medal while Ballack has none.

Does this count for something, sir?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:08pm On Jan 24, 2021
Timbros and Raumdeuter, should we start blaming VVD now or wait till 90 mins? grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On Jan 24, 2021
izzou:


But my Lord, if I may. May I, my Lord?

Wijnaldum has a Champions League medal and a Super cup medal while Ballack has none.

Does this count for something, sir?

Was Wijnaldum the best player on his team or is it possible that he profited from the hard work of others?
If Man Utd should win the league this season does than make Brandon Willians better than Cancelo?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:12pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:
Timbros and Rumdeuter, should we start blaming VVD now or wait till 90 mins? grin grin grin grin

We should wait until they concede 7 like they did with Van Dijk
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:13pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


We should wait until they concede 7 like they did with Van Dijk

Now Alisson the saviour is now leaking goals in every match like Wilfred Agbonivbare. grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:14pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:


Now Alisson the saviour is now leaking goals in every match like Wilfred Agbonivbare. grin grin grin

They keepers behind VVD leaked 7. Thank God VVD is not there today it could have been 15
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 7:17pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


Was Wijnaldum the best player on his team or is it possible that he profited from the hard work of others?
If Man Utd should win the league this season does than make Brandon Willians better than Cancelo?

What about Boathand grin

Cc Airmark

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:18pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


They keepers behind VVD leaked 7. Thank God VVD is not there today it could have been 15

I don't understand. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:19pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:


Now Alisson the saviour is now leaking goals in every match like Wilfred Agbonivbare. grin grin grin
2020/21 EPL season
Liverpool with VVD played 4 conceded 11 goals

Liverpool without VVD played 15 conceded 11

it took Liverpool 15 games to concede the same number of goals as they conceded in 4 games with VVD

Imgine if VVD was there? Liverpool for concede 90 this season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:20pm On Jan 24, 2021
Exonerate1:


What about Boathand grin

Cc Airmark

grin grin

Our resident Apari Raumdeuter is confused. See how he put Boathand in serious problem henceforth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:20pm On Jan 24, 2021
Exonerate1:


What about Boathand grin

Cc Airmark

Boatank was the best defender in the world cup winning team as evidenced by the final game. Same with the CL finals he played until he got injured
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:21pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:


I don't understand. grin

When VVD was in defence the team conceded 7
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:23pm On Jan 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


When VVD was in defence the team conceded 7

Blame Adrian, Gomez and other defenders.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:24pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:


Blame Gomez and others.

2020/21 EPL season
Liverpool with VVD played 4 conceded 11 goals

Liverpool without VVD played 15 conceded 11

it took Liverpool 15 games to concede the same number of goals as they conceded in 4 games with VVD

Imgine if VVD was there? Liverpool for concede 90 this season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:24pm On Jan 24, 2021
Exonerate1:


What about Boathand grin

Cc Airmark

See below

raumdeuter:



Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger. Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match
Jérôme Boateng was man of the match, Lionel Messi menaced the German defence and Philipp Lahm ran riot
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

for Germany there was Jérôme Boateng and Philipp Lahm – as they thwarted attack after attack
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10964539/World-Cup-2014-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-drives-Germany-to-victory-in-enthralling-final.html

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."
http://www.bbc.com.b.tldw.me/sport/football/28286068

This is how to boss a world cup final






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