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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Excallibur(m): 9:53pm On Jan 24, 2021
Beorn:



But but but... the mud dwellers told us he doesn't play well against the top 6. Mud na bad thing!! grin
which one be mud dwellers again grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:54pm On Jan 24, 2021
Leyqute:


No. That’s not what I mean. It’s porous because that midfield cannot shield the back four properly.

It can’t shield the back four completely because we’re accustomed to McFred, hence the feeling that one defensive midfielder isn’t enough.

With Bruno upfront, Pogba LCM and VDB RCM, the DM needs to be solid, have great ball control and reading of the game.

VDB’s sleek football will cause problems for a lot of teams in the EPL, especially the buses.

Maybe Kagawa should come do the full analysis again grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:54pm On Jan 24, 2021
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:56pm On Jan 24, 2021
GloryIsaac:


It can’t shield the back four completely because we’re accustomed to McFred, hence the feeling that one defensive midfielder isn’t enough.

With Bruno upfront, Pogba LCM and VDB RCM, the DM needs to be solid, have great ball control and reading of the game.

VDB’s sleek football will cause problems for a lot of teams in the EPL, especially the buses.

What about when we don’t have the ball? Or when we lose possession upfield and the opponent is rushing toward us with pace and pawa?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jan 24, 2021
Leyqute:
LMAO grin grin grin

grin grin grin

WTF?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 10:03pm On Jan 24, 2021
adebayo201:


Whoever is behind this your attitude towards Bruno needs to be begged. Sir, with all due respect, you're really "muddy".
Check my previous post here. Whenever Bruno does something exceptional I have always praised him. Why will I hate him?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:09pm On Jan 24, 2021
Leyqute:


What about when we don’t have the ball? Or when we lose possession upfield and the opponent is rushing toward us with pace and pawa?

That’s where the DM’s intelligence comes to play. Great positioning will cause problems for the opponent.
Also, I don’t expect VDB and Pogba to walk while the opponent hits us on a counter.

In most cases really, except someone does something unintelligent, the opponent will spend a lot of time focusing on not conceding, rather than scoring because of United’s firepower.

It’s just like TAA at Liverpool. He’s weak defensively but the overall coordination of the team, without injuries, makes it hard for opponents to exploit him despite knowing 100% that he’s the weakness in the defense.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 10:17pm On Jan 24, 2021
My guy no make I vex. Which kain nonsense you dey talk? cheesy.
Trevor012:

He is not even the best Midfielder in our team when Pogba is there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 10:21pm On Jan 24, 2021
Most importantly he doesn't create chances. I am talking about making that final pass. If you ask folks dem go tell you say he get high pass completion. He completed 98% of his passes blabla. Na that one we go chop?
KingAlabi:

For me, VDB can play pogba's role only that he doesn't have the range on his pass, I think that's why only plays he closer to the opponents post and not deep.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cyberrex(m): 10:36pm On Jan 24, 2021
benji93:
Most importantly he doesn't create chances. I am talking about making that final pass. If you ask folks dem go tell you say he get high pass completion. He completed 98% of his passes blabla. Na that one we go chop?

the day he refused to release the ball to a running rashford, was the day I knew be wasn't ready for EPL, he should put himself in position that will ensure he controls the game, not playing safe by passing to the nearest teammate because he wants to complete his passes

Although he's very good, but the kind of man utd tactics now requires him to be always ready to participate in a counter, I believe if it was vdb that had the ball for rashford's assist, he would have probably not attempt that cross field pass
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:10pm On Jan 24, 2021
Cyberrex:


the day he refused to release the ball to a running rashford, was the day I knew be wasn't ready for EPL, he should put himself in position that will ensure he controls the game, not playing safe by passing to the nearest teammate because he wants to complete his passes

Although he's very good, but the kind of man utd tactics now requires him to be always ready to participate in a counter, I believe if it was vdb that had the ball for rashford's assist, he would have probably not attempt that cross field pass
I will like to attribute it to his footballing perspective especially coming from Ajax...Those guys are taught to retain possession that's why he only attempts 5 yard passes. In dangerous positions, his one touch passing and movement can unsettle any defense...Check his one touch pass to release Shaw and his movement into the box where he should have shot after receiving a pass rather than attempt to find Cavani...

With more confidence and adaptation, I expect him to be more daring...Like Fred, let's be patient with him, in there lies a rough diamond...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:14pm On Jan 24, 2021
GloryIsaac:


That’s where the DM’s intelligence comes to play. Great positioning will cause problems for the opponent.
Also, I don’t expect VDB and Pogba to walk while the opponent hits us on a counter.

In most cases really, except someone does something unintelligent, the opponent will spend a lot of time focusing on not conceding, rather than scoring because of United’s firepower.

It’s just like TAA at Liverpool. He’s weak defensively but the overall coordination of the team, without injuries, makes it hard for opponents to exploit him despite knowing 100% that he’s the weakness in the defense.
Watch Liverpool from last season and in particular, watch Sheffield United vs Liverpool and you'll see that it's Henderson who is detailed to cover for him thus his defensive frailties is hardly noticed unless Hendo is out of the team...TAA is too slow for an attacking wing back. If Pep lays his hand on him, he'll be converted to a DM...Fabinho was once a RB at Monaco...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:17pm On Jan 24, 2021
- Nobody is praising Greenwood now for a goal and assist. Look at the way he scored even with Robertson shouting to put him off.
And people are forgetting he is just 19

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:18pm On Jan 24, 2021
Luke Shaw. Jezus Christ the guy just like a new signing. Cant believe he is just 25.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:19pm On Jan 24, 2021
Maguire and Lindelof will not kill person. Any day they didnt sent someone for BP medications after every match will heaven fall?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:26pm On Jan 24, 2021
eleshin:

Bros shey na old age àbí weytin?
Oh
I see

But it's quite uncalled for

But mehn the guy is just 19 Sha and he was born into this social media age, give me some break na undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cyberrex(m): 12:10am On Jan 25, 2021
patrickmuf:
I will like to attribute it to his footballing perspective especially coming from Ajax...Those guys are taught to retain possession that's why he only attempts 5 yard passes. In dangerous positions, his one touch passing and movement can unsettle any defense...Check his one touch pass to release Shaw and his movement into the box where he should have shot after receiving a pass rather than attempt to find Cavani...

With more confidence and adaptation, I expect him to be more daring...Like Fred, let's be patient with him, in there lies a rough diamond...
I was kinda mad with him for not shooting the ball, he should be learning from Bruno, when you get the opportunity shoot the bloody ball, he needs to stop being conservative and evolve, or else he might just not make the cut
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 12:16am On Jan 25, 2021
benji93:
Most importantly he doesn't create chances. I am talking about making that final pass. If you ask folks dem go tell you say he get high pass completion. He completed 98% of his passes blabla. Na that one we go chop?
Think he's better off playing central midfielder
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayromWrites: 12:17am On Jan 25, 2021
CapitalCee:
- Nobody is praising Greenwood now for a goal and assist. Look at the way he scored even with Robertson shouting to put him off.
And people are forgetting he is just 19

This thing dey low-key vex me

He is 19, not 16 or 17


it's not like he is a kid anymore, he did great yesterday but then he needs to step up this season, he set high standards for himself last season, e should work to build on that momentum


I've read some disturbing things about him(dunno if it's true though)

and the post after the game today,if he really made it(I don't think it was necessary)


The guy needs to come down to earth and fucking stay humble


19 is just a year away from 20


I know what I was doing at 19

The decisions I was making at that age...

Greenwood needs to do better, he has the ability, I just pray he has the will and discipline



GGMU
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:36am On Jan 25, 2021
hoopLA:

As much as they are im very concerned about our CB situation.
Lindelof gets easily bullied by opposing forwards and starts making mistakes and switches off at the vital moment.
Maguirre is just another case : no pace.

Those two were caught ball watching for Liverpool's opener and Maguirre played Cavani into a situation where he lost the ball for their equalizer.


Cavani was fully at fault for that goal. Maguire actually gave a very good pass breaking the lines of the press.

Cavani rather than taking a touch and turning or taking a touch and making an accurate pass decided to give make a hasty and faulty pass.

He actually turned a potential goal scoring opportunity for us into a goal for them. If you watch the goal again the pass to Cavani broke their press and our attackers were in open space against their defenders.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 2:08am On Jan 25, 2021
afrodoc2:


Cavani was fully at fault for that goal. Maguire actually gave a very good pass breaking the lines of the press.

Cavani rather than taking a touch and turning or taking a touch and making an accurate pass decided to give make a hasty and faulty pass.

He actually turned a potential goal scoring opportunity for us into a goal for them. If you watch the goal again the pass to Cavani broke their press and our attackers were in open space against their defenders.

I thought I was the only one that saw it. That Maguire pass was beautiful. and Cavani had time and space to make one touch that will help him make more accurate pass. But I guess he didn't scan his surrounding to see that he was free so he attempted a one time pass which wasn't accurate.
I won't blame Maguire or Cavani sha, because it just happened that Liverpool took that chance well. On another day, it won't result to any consequence
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 3:07am On Jan 25, 2021
afrodoc2:


Cavani was fully at fault for that goal. Maguire actually gave a very good pass breaking the lines of the press.

Cavani rather than taking a touch and turning or taking a touch and making an accurate pass decided to give make a hasty and faulty pass.

He actually turned a potential goal scoring opportunity for us into a goal for them. If you watch the goal again the pass to Cavani broke their press and our attackers were in open space against their defenders.
Maybe so.

But my point still stands about their immobility. They're too flat-footed.

They kept getting caught out by the square ball. I remember AWB coming in from his position and leaving his man wide open to nip another slide rule pass while those two just kept wandering. This was after they got caught out for the opener,though Shaw shouldve been more alert to the Salah run.

Even trying to pass out from the back is a general chore for them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:28am On Jan 25, 2021
hoopLA:

Maybe so.

But my point still stands about their immobility. They're too flat-footed.

They kept getting caught out by the square ball. I remember AWB coming in from his position and leaving his man wide open to nip another slide rule pass while those two just kept wandering. This was after they got caught out for the opener,though Shaw shouldve been more alert to the Salah run.

Even trying to pass out from the back is a general chore for them.


Oh we are on the same page about their lack of pace and the need for us to buy a fast CB. However in terms of that goal the pass from Maguire was a beautiful and well weighted pass. Cavani was just not calm enough to realize that was a potential 2 v2 for us against their defenders.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:43am On Jan 25, 2021
timay:


I thought I was the only one that saw it. That Maguire pass was beautiful. and Cavani had time and space to make one touch that will help him make more accurate pass. But I guess he didn't scan his surrounding to see that he was free so he attempted a one time pass which wasn't accurate.
I won't blame Maguire or Cavani sha, because it just happened that Liverpool took that chance well. On another day, it won't result to any consequence


Both Maguire and Lindelof are decent passers only that Maguire's brain seems to boot slowly while he decides who to pass the ball to.

I just thank Otem that he has reduced that nonsense he used to last season whereby he slowly walked the ball towards Shaw before passing to him in a cul-de-sac.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:04am On Jan 25, 2021
timay:


If you make it a job to slander Bruno, the person will keep taking Ls and dragged in the mud by Bruno with his performances. Even rivals have toned down on their penandez chants because the guy keeps handing them Ls everytime grin
He's literarily the wrong person to choose to troll at the moment grin
Lol sod09 and jodera refused to listen that day. Worse was said about Ronaldo back then. If not for the profligacy of our attackers and bad luck, Bruno should be having at least one assist every big match. He should have had 2 assists yesterday too. They will eat their words

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:19am On Jan 25, 2021
GloryIsaac:


It can’t shield the back four completely because we’re accustomed to McFred, hence the feeling that one defensive midfielder isn’t enough.

With Bruno upfront, Pogba LCM and VDB RCM, the DM needs to be solid, have great ball control and reading of the game.

VDB’s sleek football will cause problems for a lot of teams in the EPL, especially the buses.

Maybe Kagawa should come do the full analysis again grin
The whole team will have to do better with ball possession and closing down opponents. Introducing a dm that can do what you're saying won't automatically make us better in possession and more press resistant. We will have to switch away from counter football
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 5:17am On Jan 25, 2021
KingAlabi:


You see how e hang for air cheesy

God punish that bar.

That guy is good in the air..

It's been long we had anyone with head work like dat...

He hang like Ronaldo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 5:19am On Jan 25, 2021
afrodoc2:


Oh we are on the same page about their lack of pace and the need for us to buy a fast CB. However in terms of that goal the pass from Maguire was a beautiful and well weighted pass. Cavani was just not calm enough to realize that was a potential 2 v2 for us against their defenders.

I've rewatched the game

You're correct about the goal.

I retract that statement.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 5:22am On Jan 25, 2021
The way teles has improved our future captain luke Shaw ehhhhh..

The guy is all-round now.. He's now crossing unlike before where he runs strictly to the box..
Can't believe this is the person morinho nearly killed publicly and privately for being fat during pre season..


If only wan bissaka has someone like this.. His foward play is so weak...
Robertson had a very good afternoon against him..
. Arnold on the other hand saw shege with Shaw and rash..

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 5:30am On Jan 25, 2021
Our back line aren't vocal that's an issue tho..
D whole pitch gan.. Nobody like shout.
Degea is worse..
. He won't ever leave his goal mouth to come play sweeper keeper.. And he has a decent long ball oh nd pace... He no vocal too.. He for don be captain since..

Pogba own na to ginger boys when dem score us....

D rest are just so c silent..
I don't know if im the only one that notices it

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mediaresearcher: 5:33am On Jan 25, 2021
JayromWrites:


This thing dey low-key vex me

He is 19, not 16 or 17


it's not like he is a kid anymore, he did great yesterday but then he needs to step up this season, he set high standards for himself last season, e should work to build on that momentum


I've read some disturbing things about him(dunno if it's true though)

and the post after the game today,if he really made it(I don't think it was necessary)


The guy needs to come down to earth and fucking stay humble


19 is just a year away from 20


I know what I was doing at 19

The decisions I was making at that age...

Greenwood needs to do better, he has the ability, I just pray he has the will and discipline



GGMU

Pray tell, what are the disturbing things you've read about him. Share us links to read too if possible.

Also, what are the decisions you took at that age that led to a better life for you than Greenwoods?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 5:51am On Jan 25, 2021
Ole said in his post match interview that the benched players screamed to Rashford to switch and pass to Greenwood. He also said if there were fans in the stadium, Rashford wouldn’t have heard them.
I for say how Rashy get vision like that cheesy

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