Nairobi Eastland - this is where Nairobi lower middle class live in. Has more high or low rises than any Africa city outside Cairo in my view


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o

rvp20182:
I see you're looking for Ghanian support - that clearly shows you're struggling.

Gautrain, road upgrades - that is like 10yrs before the world cup. Joburg is pretty much a dead city - save for little activity in Sandton.

The picture of Joburg CBD has remain stagnant for like 20-30yrs now. DEAD CITY.

Nairobi has nearly overtaken joburg in terms of real estates - and many areas.

In next 10 months - I mean by 2022 - Nairobi will have caught up with road infrastructure almost.

What will remain is electric train - otherwise Nairobi has 30K passengers per day DMUS

when did I mention Ghana?

Johannesburg has a GDP larger than Kenya

New buildings are popping up all over Johannesburg bru

Kenya first has to catch Gauteng wrt Road infastructure.... Never mind Nairobi

The real estate market in Johannesburg alone is worth more than the entire Kenyan real estate market

You just compared Nairobi to Accra - that show you're desperate insane man.
Johannesburg GDP is not equal to Kenya.
Gauteng GDP at best was 130B - or so
And Joburg is about half of that - 50-70B
Nairobi GDP is about that - 45-50B - about 1/3-1/2 Kenya's GDP.

Next excuse.

Your dead city is not growing.

Nairobi is growing very very fast. When you're building one house - Nairobi is building almost 20.

jl115:
when did I mention Ghana?

Johannesburg has a GDP larger than Kenya

New buildings are popping up all over Johannesburg bru

Kenya first has to catch Gauteng wrt Road infastructure.... Never mind Nairobi

The real estate market in Johannesburg alone is worth more than the entire Kenyan real estate market

Shma2020:

Sorry kazi, our young brothers and sisters in high school and primary uses Scania busses.

Scania are normal busses in Kenya.

You don't have exposure what is so special with that picture!? This is a 21 century but your thinking is stone age.

vankelvin:


Are you not ashame of yourself?

These pictures clearly shows
Private school bus and even a University bus

lol quite the opposite
lenana and alliance schools shown there are actually quite famous some of the oldest public schools that have produce world renown professional's
they both have a fleet of busses
the other ones except the university are also public schools

vankelvin:


You see how the drone covered the entire Runda estate in 360degrees? East Legon is about 2 different constituencies with each constituency having more than 250,000 population.

--They have fully developed areas
--There are estates
--There are gated estates
--There are old communities and
Finally newly developing areas so you can't compare a single Ronda estate to East Legon.

Same way you could tour the entire Nairobi CBD, Upperhill, west land in less than 5 munites

The usual cries. Nairobi city as of 1960 is 696 km². That is old Nairobi boundaries defined in 1963- with about 20% occuppied by National animal park and forests. The rest is built up. Slums occupy 2% of the land mass - 5% of the built up area.

Nairobi Metro - is huge. It extends about 40-60kms radius from Nairobi center.

That is built up area - that is 10,000Kms square plus. If you include the non-built up - it's 32K.

That is very huge. And now has close to 10Million people. That is the size of Gauteng (10m people - 18K sq kms).

68816419:

Same way you could tour the entire Nairobi CBD, Upperhill, west land in less than 5 munites

You perform worst than South Africa - which has horrible education standards except for a few great universities.
That shows Ghana education is totally crap.

Just30:
Your country didn't even begin



Did you see the African countries that were worthy to be ranked?

They were the best from Africa

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Nyahururu Kenya.

Just30:
Nothing from India can even compete with China, let alone Europe

Indians at least have balls to try to be in competition, are dependent upon themselves for such things and even create world class products sometimes. What most African countries have achieved so far?

Naivasha

Castle Forest.

Kenya

rvp20182:
You just compared Nairobi to Accra - that show you're desperate insane man.
Johannesburg GDP is not equal to Kenya.
Gauteng GDP at best was 130B - or so
And Joburg is about half of that - 50-70B
Nairobi GDP is about that - 45-50B - about 1/3-1/2 Kenya's GDP.

Next excuse.

Your dead city is not growing.

Nairobi is growing very very fast. When you're building one house - Nairobi is building almost 20.

Gauteng GDP - $140 billion
Johannesburg GDP - $ 76 billion
Kenyan GDP - $ 95 Billion
Nairobi GDP - $ 20 Billion (according to the WB Nairobi only contributes 21% to Kenya's GDP)

rvp20182:
You perform worst than South Africa - which has horrible education standards except for a few great universities.
That shows Ghana education is totally crap.

Countries ranked by the UN's education index:

South Africa 76th
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Kenya : 136th

rvp20182:
You perform worst than South Africa - which has horrible education standards except for a few great universities.
That shows Ghana education is totally crap.

Adult Literacy rate:

South Africa: 95%
Kenya: 79%

Which UN education index and what are they ranking.
If we are talking performance in PISA like test - South Africa is well below Kenya.

jl115:

Countries ranked by the UN's education index:

South Africa 76th
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Kenya : 136th

WB used experimental metholodgy - night light data. Nairobi at minimum contribute 30% if not 50% of the country GDP.

jl115:

Gauteng GDP - $140 billion
Johannesburg GDP - $ 76 billion
Kenyan GDP - $ 95 Billion
Nairobi GDP - $ 20 Billion (according to the WB Nairobi only contributes 21% to Kenya's GDP)

Unesco does a good job in literacy - South Africa 87 v Kenya 81

jl115:

Adult Literacy rate:

South Africa: 95%
Kenya: 79%

Tata is already up there in trucks! The ignorant ghanain is still receiving hyundai donated mini-buses.

Goel:

Indians at least have balls to try to be in competition, are dependent upon themselves for such things and even create world class products sometimes. What most African countries have achieved so far?

rvp20182:
Which UN education index and what are they ranking.
If we are talking performance in PISA like test - South Africa is well below Kenya.

South Africa didn't participate in the PISA study...........so how can Kenya rank above?

rvp20182:
Unesco does a good job in literacy - South Africa 87 v Kenya 81

Ok so SA ranks higher on all literacy indexes

rvp20182:
WB used experimental metholodgy - night light data. Nairobi at minimum contribute 30% if not 50% of the country GDP.

Cool story bro!! but i'll take the WB figures above yours

jl115:
when did I mention Ghana?

Johannesburg has a GDP larger than Kenya

New buildings are popping up all over Johannesburg bru

Kenya first has to catch Gauteng wrt Road infastructure.... Never mind Nairobi

The real estate market in Johannesburg alone is worth more than the entire Kenyan real estate market

We already discussed this previously, Johannesburg's gdp ppp isn't useful a measure when compared to the nominal gdp of Nairobi.

Guateng's gdp is realistically at or around 90 to 150, billion dollars. Admittedly within range of Kenya's GDP.

Nairobi & Johannesburg unlike your previous assertions are within the same range on paper, there is no need for Nairobi to catch up.

Guateng>> Johannesburg or Nairobi, Johannesburg= Nairobi, get it? When it comes to infrastructure they're quite similar already. you had the total paved roads of Johannesburg at >9000km & according to this account bellow Nairobi is already at >7000 km of paved roads, there is a functional metro rail system that's currently getting upgraded in nairobi while you have your guatrain, joburg guys have the city deep dry port while Nairobi has a dry port, Brt system is on course in nairobi while it's present in joburg, add other amenities that are only accessible to one, Nairobi has a National Park, Nairobi is the most dynamic city in Africa.

The only way you're having a debate is on which is better, & we'll rationally get to

Joburg wealth> Nairobi wealth
Joburg gdp nominal= or slightly> Nairobi metro gdp nominal
Joburg gdp per capita nominal> Nairobi MgdpPc
Nairobi metro dry port complex> city deep
guatrain> Nairobi metrorail
Joburg roads> Nairobi roads
Joburg retail space = or slightly > Nairobi retail space
Joburg real-estate= or slightly > Nairobi estate
Nairobi recreational space> joburg recreational space
Education Joburg= or slightly> Nairobi
Security Nairobi> Joburg
Dynamic Nairobi> Joburg
Healthcare Nairobi> Joburg
Health facilities Joburg> Nairobi
QOL Joburg> Nairobi
Skyline Nairobi> Joburg imo
Skyscraper/high-rise Joburg> Nairobi
Nightlife Joburg= or slightly > Nairobi

They're not that distant from each other, just one might seem a lil more impressive for now.

Goel:

Indians at least have balls to try to be in competition, are dependent upon themselves for such things and even create world class products sometimes. What most African countries have achieved so far?

Don't bring Africa into this deal with Ghana.

jl115:

Gauteng GDP - $140 billion
Johannesburg GDP - $ 76 billion
Kenyan GDP - $ 95 Billion
Nairobi GDP - $ 20 Billion (according to the WB Nairobi only contributes 21% to Kenya's GDP)

Nairobi County.

Nairobi metro city is far larger & has a gdp that's around 40-50 billion $

rvp20182:
WB used experimental metholodgy - night light data. Nairobi at minimum contribute 30% if not 50% of the country GDP.

Yes jln115 wb quoted figure is on account for Nairobi County's gdp so it's definitely realistic.

Nairobi metro is around the figure you quoted previously.

jl115:
when did I mention Ghana?

Johannesburg has a GDP larger than Kenya

New buildings are popping up all over Johannesburg bru

Kenya first has to catch Gauteng wrt Road infastructure.... Never mind Nairobi

The real estate market in Johannesburg alone is worth more than the entire Kenyan real estate market

Joburg has a gdp over 100 billion dollars, are you sure

There are PISA like test done - SACMEQ - and Kenya has always beaten South Africa - only Mauritus was better.

jl115:
South Africa didn't participate in the PISA study...........so how can Kenya rank above?

The difference is now minimal. You just need to look at videos. Picture test. Nairobi is growing very fast.

High rises - Nairobi I believe will overtake Joburg very very soon if it hasn't already.

Roads.
By next year - with completion of Nairobi Expresseway - Valley Road/Upperhill expansion with interchanges - Western By-Pass - James Gichuru-Rironi - the expansion of Eastern and Northern by-passes- the road infrastructure will be a few notches below Joburg. From there - I can only think about expanding very few roads - Kiambu, Limuru, Kamiti,Kangundo, maybe ABC - through Lavington. Nairobi would be there in roads.

BRT - we are getting about 60Km of BRT next year

Light rail - we have decent old MGR line that is being modernized - if we get more DMUs - we would be about there.
Nairobi Railway City - and in the future - a proper light rail - will nail it.

Nairobi is fixing the water problem - at least huge part - with completion of Nairobi North Collector project. Sewage still is a problem.

Telecommunication - broadband - and likes - Nairobi has already overtaken Joburg.

Also if we get housing fixed - with social housing to replace slums and old estates - then Nairobi will be untouchable in Sub-Saharan Africa - South Africans will be come to see a modern city

As for Nairobi metro - there is huge infrastructure deficit there - it will be another 10-15yrs before Nairobi metro compete with Gauteng.

Kenyans have tried their best to build real estate - but paved roads are lacking, sewage system absent, water mostly boreholes, and there is no railway and mass transport - we need to invest heavily in Nairobi Metro - because those county gov cannot prioritize Nairobi metro over rural areas of the counties.

Justnotyou:


We already discussed this previously, Johannesburg's gdp ppp isn't useful a measure when compared to the nominal gdp of Nairobi.

Guateng's gdp is realistically at or around 90 to 150, billion dollars. Admittedly within range of Kenya's GDP.

Nairobi & Johannesburg unlike your previous assertions are within the same range on paper, there is no need for Nairobi to catch up.

Guateng>> Johannesburg or Nairobi, Johannesburg= Nairobi, get it? When it comes to infrastructure they're quite similar already. you had the total paved roads of Johannesburg at >9000km & according to this account bellow Nairobi is already at >7000 km of paved roads, there is a functional metro rail system that's currently getting upgraded in nairobi while you have your guatrain, joburg guys have the city deep dry port while Nairobi has a dry port, Brt system is on course in nairobi while it's present in joburg, add other amenities that are only accessible to one, Nairobi has a National Park, Nairobi is the most dynamic city in Africa.

The only way you're having a debate is on which is better, & we'll rationally get to

Joburg wealth> Nairobi wealth
Joburg gdp nominal= or slightly> Nairobi metro gdp nominal
Joburg gdp per capita nominal> Nairobi MgdpPc
Nairobi metro dry port complex> city deep
guatrain> Nairobi metrorail
Joburg roads> Nairobi roads
Joburg retail space = or slightly > Nairobi retail space
Joburg real-estate= or slightly > Nairobi estate
Nairobi recreational space> joburg recreational space
Education Joburg= or slightly> Nairobi
Security Nairobi> Joburg
Dynamic Nairobi> Joburg
Healthcare Nairobi> Joburg
Health facilities Joburg> Nairobi
QOL Joburg> Nairobi
Skyline Nairobi> Joburg imo
Skyscraper/high-rise Joburg> Nairobi
Nightlife Joburg= or slightly > Nairobi

They're not that distant from each other, just one might seem a lil more impressive for now.

Justnotyou:


Nairobi County.

Nairobi metro city is far larger & has a gdp that's around 40-50 billion $

Cool story bro