Annael:

You don't have exposure what is so special with that picture!? This is a 21 century but your thinking is stone age.

rvp20182:
The difference is now minimal. You just need to look at videos. Picture test. Nairobi is growing very fast.

High rises - Nairobi I believe will overtake Joburg very very soon if it hasn't already.

Roads.
By next year - with completion of Nairobi Expresseway - Valley Road/Upperhill expansion with interchanges - Western By-Pass - James Gichuru-Rironi - the expansion of Eastern and Northern by-passes- the road infrastructure will be a few notches below Joburg. From there - I can only think about expanding very few roads - Kiambu, Limuru, Kamiti,Kangundo, maybe ABC - through Lavington. Nairobi would be there in roads.

BRT - we are getting about 60Km of BRT next year

Light rail - we have decent old MGR line that is being modernized - if we get more DMUs - we would be about there.
Nairobi Railway City - and in the future - a proper light rail - will nail it.

Nairobi is fixing the water problem - at least huge part - with completion of Nairobi North Collector project. Sewage still is a problem.

Telecommunication - broadband - and likes - Nairobi has already overtaken Joburg.

Also if we get housing fixed - with social housing to replace slums and old estates - then Nairobi will be untouchable in Sub-Saharan Africa - South Africans will be come to see a modern city

As for Nairobi metro - there is huge infrastructure deficit there - it will be another 10-15yrs before Nairobi metro compete with Gauteng.

Kenyans have tried their best to build real estate - but paved roads are lacking, sewage system absent, water mostly boreholes, and there is no railway and mass transport - we need to invest heavily in Nairobi Metro - because those county gov cannot prioritize Nairobi metro over rural areas of the counties.

vankelvin:


I think I need to creat 2nd Vankelvin account cos I was banned last Sunday around 7pm that's why I couldn't comment throughout the daytime yesterday.

68816419:

I will have to agree with u on the bolded statement above , u r now reminiscing on what we have been saying all this while, your government should stop developing the already built up areas of the county, build infrastructures arround the so called Greater Nairobi and not places been built by the colonial Masters. Lagos , Kaduna, PH and Abuja are doing just this, Lagos is about building the largest bridge in Africa, tagged the "4th Mainland bridge, the bridge is been built around poor area of the state . New airport, sea ports, Industries and free trade zones, all these infrastructures are been built far away from Lagos city centers.

vankelvin:


Are you not ashame of yourself?

These pictures clearly shows
Private school bus and even a University bus

jl115:
Probably a bit longer than that

rvp20182:
Most modern cities have such apartments; TO AVOID WEST AFRICA URBAN SPRAWL OF low rises slums.
These apartments mean everyone in Nairobi is not so far from CBD and their place of work.
And we are just started. Nairobi need a million units of such high rise apartments.

rvp20182:
The difference is now minimal. You just need to look at videos. Picture test. Nairobi is growing very fast.

High rises - Nairobi I believe will overtake Joburg very very soon if it hasn't already.

Roads.
By next year - with completion of Nairobi Expresseway - Valley Road/Upperhill expansion with we - Western By-Pass - James Gichuru-Rironi - the expansion of Eastern and Northern by-passes- the road infrastructure will be a few notches below Joburg. From there - I can only think about expanding very few roads - Kiambu, Limuru, Kamiti,Kangundo, maybe ABC - through Lavington. Nairobi would be there in roads.

BRT - we are getting about 60Km of BRT next year

Light rail - we have decent old MGR line that is being modernized - if we get more DMUs - we would be about there.
Nairobi Railway City - and in the future - a proper light rail - will nail it.

Nairobi is fixing the water problem - at least huge part - with completion of Nairobi North Collector project. Sewage still is a problem.

Telecommunication - broadband - and likes - Nairobi has already overtaken Joburg.

Also if we get housing fixed - with social housing to replace slums and old estates - then Nairobi will be untouchable in Sub-Saharan Africa - South Africans will be come to see a modern city

As for Nairobi metro - there is huge infrastructure deficit there - it will be another 10-15yrs before Nairobi metro compete with Gauteng.

Kenyans have tried their best to build real estate - but paved roads are lacking, sewage system absent, water mostly boreholes, and there is no railway and mass transport - we need to invest heavily in Nairobi Metro - because those county gov cannot prioritize Nairobi metro over rural areas of the counties.

68816419:

I will have to agree with u on the bolded statement above , u r now reminiscing on what we have been saying all this while, your government should stop developing the already built up areas of the county, build infrastructures arround the so called Greater Nairobi and not places been built by the colonial Masters. Lagos , Kaduna, PH and Abuja are doing just this, Lagos is about building the largest bridge in Africa, tagged the "4th Mainland bridge, the bridge is been built around poor area of the state . New airport, sea ports, Industries and free trade zones, all these infrastructures are been built far away from Lagos city centers.

Kazikazi:
University of Dar es salaam libraries

Biggest university library in africa

AmenhotepZuid:
Inside AFRICA in 2021 other African BILLIONAIRES are closing the gap between them and 1 Dangote the FACE OF THE ZOO. SOON HES GOING TO BE A "HAS BEEN". WATCH THE SPACE!!!!!!! Dangote's SMALL CHICKEN CHANGE CROWN is in DANGER, SOUTH AFRICAN are gunning for that number 1 spot. WE RULE THE WORLD WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE AFRICA OURS!!!!!RULE AFRICA AS WELL!!!Why not?

gallivant:


Nigerians should be the last ones talking about infrastructure.

Just40:
sorry kid


You wont find such slum of pitiable buildings anywhere in West Africa.

In West Africa, when we decide to live in flats, it is classic flats and not such pitiable misery.


Your middle class live in such slums, it's no wonder that The poor lives in an even worse situation

rvp20182:
The difference is now minimal. You just need to look at videos. Picture test. Nairobi is growing very fast.

High rises - Nairobi I believe will overtake Joburg very very soon if it hasn't already.

Roads.
By next year - with completion of Nairobi Expresseway - Valley Road/Upperhill expansion with interchanges - Western By-Pass - James Gichuru-Rironi - the expansion of Eastern and Northern by-passes- the road infrastructure will be a few notches below Joburg. From there - I can only think about expanding very few roads - Kiambu, Limuru, Kamiti,Kangundo, maybe ABC - through Lavington. Nairobi would be there in roads.

BRT - we are getting about 60Km of BRT next year

Light rail - we have decent old MGR line that is being modernized - if we get more DMUs - we would be about there.
Nairobi Railway City - and in the future - a proper light rail - will nail it.

Nairobi is fixing the water problem - at least huge part - with completion of Nairobi North Collector project. Sewage still is a problem.

Telecommunication - broadband - and likes - Nairobi has already overtaken Joburg.

Also if we get housing fixed - with social housing to replace slums and old estates - then Nairobi will be untouchable in Sub-Saharan Africa - South Africans will be come to see a modern city

As for Nairobi metro - there is huge infrastructure deficit there - it will be another 10-15yrs before Nairobi metro compete with Gauteng.

Kenyans have tried their best to build real estate - but paved roads are lacking, sewage system absent, water mostly boreholes, and there is no railway and mass transport - we need to invest heavily in Nairobi Metro - because those county gov cannot prioritize Nairobi metro over rural areas of the counties.

rvp20182:
Most modern cities have such apartments; TO AVOID WEST AFRICA URBAN SPRAWL OF low rises slums.
These apartments mean everyone in Nairobi is not so far from CBD and their place of work.
And we are just started. Nairobi need a million units of such high rise apartments.

popizaino:


Your resilience is just commendable,inspite of those empty barrel trying to muddy the whole discussions by throwing cheap insults here and there,you still went all the way to be objective .

rvp20182:
Africa - building with 20 floors plus (don't look for anything in the midget country of Ghana)

Update 30 October 2020-Source (Emporis) -- if we include more than 20 high rises in Nairobi that are on under const/ site prep/approved - Nairobi moves 2nd to Cairo

1. Cairo ----------------------------119------Egypt
2. Durban incl. Umhlanga--------68------South Africa
3. Johannesburg incl. Sandton---67------South Africa
4. Luanda--------------------------59------Angola
5. Nairobi--------------------------51------Kenya
6.Dar es salaam-------------------38------Tanzania
7. Lagos incl. EAC-----------------34------Nigeria
7. Algiers-------------------------34------Algeria
8. Cape Town----------------------33------South Africa
9. Addis Ababa-------------------29------Ethiopia
10. Oran-----------------------------24------Algeria
10. Maputo------------------------24------Mozambique
11. Pretoria------------------------23------South Africa
12. Abidjan------------------------18------Cote d'Ivoire
13. Casablanca--------------------13------Morocco
14. Tripoli----------------------11------Libya
15. Kinshasa----------------------9-------D.R. Congo
16. Alexandria---------------------8-------Egypt
17. Mombasa--------------------7------Kenya
18.Harare-------------------------6------Zimbabwe
19. Khartoum----------------------5------Sudan
19. Kampala-----------------------5------Uganda
20.Antananarivo----------------------4--------Madagascar
20. Abuja--------------------------4------Nigeria
20.Brazzaville----------------------4------Congo
20.Dakar--------------------------------4-------Senegal
21.Yaoundé-----------------------3------Cameroon
21.Port Louis----------------------3-------Mauritius
21. Port Elizabeth-----------------3------South Africa
21.Conakry----------------------3--------Guinea
21.East London--------------3-------------South Africa
22.Soyo--------------------------2---------Angola
22. Windhoek---------------------2-------Namibia
22. Oyala----------------------------2-------Equatorial Guinea
22. Bloemfontein--------------------2------South Africa
22. Pietermaritzburg--------------------2------South Africa
22. Tunis--------------------2------Tunisia
23.Salé---------------------------------1-------Morocco
23.Lusaka------------------------------1--------Zambia
23.Rabbat--------------------------------1-------Morocco
23.Gizeh--------------------------------1-------Egypt
23.Gaborone-------------------------1------Botswana
23.Lome--------------------------------1-------Togo
23.Ibadan-------------------------------1-------Nigeria
23.Eldoret ---------------------------1--------Kenya
23.Bulawayo--------------------------------1-------Zimbabwe
23.Uyo ---------------------------1--------Nigeria
23.Accra---------------------------1--------Ghana
23.Kigali ---------------------------1--------Rwanda
23.Cabinda---------------------------1--------Angola
23.Constantine----------------------1--------Algeria
23.Zvishane-------------------------1----------Zimbabwe
23.Malindi----------------------------1-------------Kenya

popizaino:



Yes,you are right.

Even in Abidjan were the lower middle class live like youpogon is similar to what you have shown.Apartment are usually highrise,ranging from five to seven storey building to avoid urban sprawl.

rvp20182:
Your entire cities are iron-rusted shanties. The worse kind of urban sprawl.
If you need video evidence let me know.

mtisTheQubit:

pwapwapwapwa..malindi vs Accra

Question..why are you Kenyans wasting your energy trying to compare Accra with Nairobi or Mombasa or Kisumu ? Guys please just stop

Appisko:


Kenyans and their strange way of thinking

Lol skyscrapers now yard stick for development

rvp20182:
Please there is nothing Nigeria can teach us. Please deal with basic like Electricity. Before you go to other infrastructure. Please for god sake FiX electricity and shut up...and listen to your generator din.

Let South Africans patronize us.

What will a Nigeria, a Tanzanian and Ghanian REALLY TELL US??

gallivant:


Development is clearly not the tiny buildings in Accra. That's for sure.

Appisko:


An arzzzz licker dectected

gallivant:


Development is clearly not the tiny buildings in Accra. That's for sure.

popizaino:



Yes,you are right.

Even in Abidjan were the lower middle class live like youpogon is similar to what you have shown.Apartment are usually highrise,ranging from five to seven storey building to avoid urban sprawl.