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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:22am On Jan 28, 2021
Amoto94:

Tuchel vary his formations and is not known for sticking to one particular formation, he used 3 at the back while he was at PSG and Dortmund. If Kovacic and Jorginho stays fit they will fit perfectly against teams who will sit back, I wouldn't like Kante to pair with either of them in a two-man midfield it will be too sterile. Against teams who are likely to come at us a midfield 3 of Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante will be good for a start

I don't watch much Ligue 1, but from the UCL matches I watch PSG play, I don't think I've seen them play 3 at the back.

One thing I note from this first match is, TT is an attacking minded coach and I love that. He can easily play 4-2-4 when need be.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:25am On Jan 28, 2021
donjazet:


The sheer incompetence of this board is baffling.
They are just taking the fans for a ride.
They have continued to exhibit their failure of stratgem and long term planning and many times over the years, we suffer from a grossly imbalanced team and mishmash of incompatible players brought upon by the constant change of managers and we direct our ire towards the players and coaches instead of this incompetent board that is the root cause of all these.

Alas, I was one of the few people here against the hiring of lampard as a coach. I remember arguing with people here as to why we shouldn't have sacked sarri yet or hired a rookie because he is our legend. Just as I was against sacking Conte to hire sarri.

This board will deceive us into thinking they know what they are doing, and many at times, they just don't.

Why did we hire sarri when we already knew that he had never won a trophy in his career?? We were told we wanted him to teach us his pattern. Then why not give him ample time?
Why would we hire Frank lampard when we know he knows nothing about coaching yet? We were told we wanted someone much closer to us, someone who genuinely cared for the club, who was one of us, someone who will believe in our youth. Then why not stick with him till the end of the season at least and give him that benefit of doubt?

Now, no13 would come and also make his own list of players to fit his pattern and once again, we would be left with good players who are just incompatible or don't fit the manager's ideology. And we would turn on the manager and the players. And the cycle will continue going around.

SUCH A DYSFUNCTIONAL CLUB.
For the records though, Chelsea didn't sack Sarri. He left on his own. Juventus offered him a better deal and he took it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:36am On Jan 28, 2021
madrid5:
oga how did ziyech play better than havertz,wentin ziyech play for this game,no player came close to winning this game than havertz,which kind nonesense bias una get for this thread,of all people in this match na havertz una insult,not chillwell the worse player in the field or giroud who had chances to score,na wa for una oh.

You must be joking if what you saw was what was expected of a quality attacking midfielder. The only major thing Havertz did was that pass to Chilwell, other things i saw was passing the ball backwards, sideways and losing possessions on few occasions.

I will be surprised if he doesn't ride the bench for Mount in the next few matches. He should be loaned out as he is obviously not ready for epl yet.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawgg: 10:43am On Jan 28, 2021
KingAlabi:

grin grin
Apostle where Chelsea dey again abeg
Climbing up
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 11:04am On Jan 28, 2021
Skimpledawgg:

Climbing up
From 9th to 8th

Pretty encouraging, 6th is where you lots belong Sha. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 11:12am On Jan 28, 2021
timbros:


You used the right word: flexibility.

I wonder why Lampard all of a sudden became rigid. Last season, Arsenal away, we started with 433 and the match was very hard for us but once Lampard made changes and went for 343, we won the match.

I'm watching TT closely. Let's see what he has in stock for us.

One of the biggest criticism of TT is that he tweaks his formation far too much than necessary. Even as far as deploying 5 different formation in a single match. So no concern there as regards rigidity.

Infact the other day, I was reading a stat where it was said that the most a single player has ever played for him is 78% in a season - And this includes the likes of Neymar, Mbappe and all the superstars he's ever coached

One advantage he does have over Lampard is he tends to rely more on team play than personnel

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 11:16am On Jan 28, 2021
airmark:


You must be joking if what you saw was what was expected of a quality attacking midfielder. The only major thing Havertz did was that pass to Chilwell, other things i saw was passing the ball backwards, sideways and losing possessions on few occasions.

I will be surprised if he doesn't ride the bench for Mount in the next few matches. He should be loaned out as he is obviously not ready for epl yet.

Not gonna happen as they wont even be playing the same position under Tuchel.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:23am On Jan 28, 2021
User09:


Not gonna happen as they wont even be playing the same position under Tuchel.


Tuchel may tutor Mount on how to be effective behind the striker and will add goals to it as he can shoot better than Havertz. Havertz is easily shrugged off the ball and could be an easy target by our opponents. For now, he should be coming in when the tempo of matches have subsided.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 11:37am On Jan 28, 2021
airmark:


Tuchel may tutor Mount on how to be effective behind the striker and will add goals to it as he can shoot better than Havertz. Havertz is easily shrugged off the ball and could be an easy target by our opponents. For now, he should be coming in when the tempo of matches have subsided.


U are more likely see both on the pitch than see Kai being replaced by him

What remains to be seen is how Tuchel uses Mount - I think he's got attributes that can be well utilized
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:40am On Jan 28, 2021
nateevs:


The matter weak me sef. TT wants to sign new players already. But we sacked the last manager on the basis that what we have should be good enough.

Why we no sign players give the last one?

Journalists are lazy and assign every transfer target to the manager.

Like Greatihex said, the club signs players and a manager will be lucky to get one or two signings he really wants per season

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:42am On Jan 28, 2021
Greatihex:
For the records though, Chelsea didn't sack Sarri. He left on his own. Juventus offered him a better deal and he took it.

They were about to sack him so the point is moot

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:59am On Jan 28, 2021
Ibime:


They were about to sack him so the point is moot
Just like for every Chelsea manager, talks of sack is always in the media when things are not going very well, but with winning Europa and qualifying for ucl, you will have to do more convincing for me to believe that the board was considering to sack him.

Yes, he knew that Chelsea don't waste time to sack, and he was not convinced that he could win anything better than he already won, so he took a new and, in his own understanding, a more secured job. This is what I feel.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:17pm On Jan 28, 2021
airmark:


You must be joking if what you saw was what was expected of a quality attacking midfielder. The only major thing Havertz did was that pass to Chilwell, other things i saw was passing the ball backwards, sideways and losing possessions on few occasions.

I will be surprised if he doesn't ride the bench for Mount in the next few matches. He should be loaned out as he is obviously not ready for epl yet.
you nor really know ball abeg,na Better trash you dey talk,your second most dangerous player in last night game should be loaned out,abeg make una sell am give man City,I nor fit dey listen to this trash daily,everybody lost possessions , ziyech and azpicuelta lost possession more than havertz but una nor see am,abeg tell me how ziyech tey go pass havertz for this game,ziyech had more backward passes than havertz but una nor let us hear,Chelsea fans for this thread na back of telly una dey watch.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:18pm On Jan 28, 2021
airmark:


Tuchel may tutor Mount on how to be effective behind the striker and will add goals to it as he can shoot better than Havertz. Havertz is easily shrugged off the ball and could be an easy target by our opponents. For now, he should be coming in when the tempo of matches have subsided.

how can he shoot better than havertz?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 12:20pm On Jan 28, 2021
Ibime:


You want to bait me into comparing a new managers bounce to Lampards last horrible month. I pray Tuchel does well, but since you want to bring your agenda to my domot, let's be fair and compare like-for-like. Below is what I will compare Tuchels input to against the same Wolves. Go ahead and compare.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7lrefis1M



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=safyalndwJ8

If you're talking about fairness, it behoves on you to bring Lampard's first match as a manager to compare his.

And in those matches, you state clearly which of them a true philosophy of football can be found.

BTW, why omit the part requesting for your remark on Jorginho and Co?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 12:22pm On Jan 28, 2021
wkid:
#Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich was prepared to pay £62M for Kai Havertz because he could not stomach the thought of the talented midfielder going on to become a world star elsewhere.

[via @Matt_Law_DT]

Either way, the board would have still gotten him. Roman rates him highly and he's a big fan cool

Make we dey get sense for here abeg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 12:31pm On Jan 28, 2021
FBS:
New era. New manager.

1st half : Some painstaking, uber patient build up, you would think that they were playing in slow motion.

2nd half: Improved performance, we didn't just rely on cross and nod, we tried playing in between the lines, passed the ball faster and the hunger to win the ball back quickly was evident. Havertz could have won it.

Best player I think was CHO, his best game so far. He is just missing that final decisive pass to up his game but his work ethic has definitely improved.

Chiwell definitely struggled and good to see we had a manager who actually reads the game.
Ziyech didn't do much and was not surprised he got substituted.

Tuchel failed to win his first match (not happy about that at all) but surely everyone can see the improvement.
Looking forward to the next match.

An obvious improvement
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 12:34pm On Jan 28, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Well you know , If mount was well appreciated for just that alone, we won’t be having this discussion.

There is individual differences, so sense of judgment differs.

You're of the belief that Mount is superb for that running around quality and for that you're praising him. Why not maintain same for Havertz.

Leave others to stick to their own judgement.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:09pm On Jan 28, 2021
amodu:


An obvious improvement

Obvious improvement on the previous 8 games or improvement on our 17 game winning run?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TeflonBlixx: 1:16pm On Jan 28, 2021
If harvetz didn't cost so much, the criticism would have been less...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 1:55pm On Jan 28, 2021
hensben:
No difference between Havertz and Lucas Piazon to be honest. Kaka was just too effective and productive in his days.

If only Mount got Havert'z technicality we would have a perfect number 10.
so you know that havertz is technically gifted grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibunkun1(m): 2:15pm On Jan 28, 2021
TeflonBlixx:
If harvetz didn't cost so much, the criticism would have been less...

True

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:44pm On Jan 28, 2021
iamJ:
so you know that havertz is technically gifted grin
He is technical but doesn't have the tenacity just like lucas piason, too reluctant to put in work in his play.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:06pm On Jan 28, 2021
madrid5:
how can he shoot better than havertz?

See question. So you need to go and check shot power rating before you know?

I won't be surprised if you add that Havertz is more agile and aggressive than Mount too. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 3:12pm On Jan 28, 2021
amodu:


There is individual differences, so sense of judgment differs.

You're of the belief that Mount is superb for that running around quality and for that you're praising him. Why not maintain same for Havertz.

Leave others to stick to their own judgement.

What tha hell! grin

I’m not even a shepkite , just here for
the violence

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:12pm On Jan 28, 2021
"At Chelsea it is about results. The DNA is to win trophies and I am here to challenge for every trophy. This year is the Champions League and the FA Cup. The league is not realistic so we lose focus if we aim for that. People should be excited to watch our team."

- Tuchel

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 3:12pm On Jan 28, 2021
Havertz is faster than Vardy,it’s just hidden inside cheesy grin
Clowns everywhere, why tell me stuffs on paper when I can clearly see it on TV

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 3:14pm On Jan 28, 2021
airmark:


See question. So you need to go and check shot power rating before you know?

I won't be surprised if you add that Havertz is more agile and aggressive than Mount too. grin

Every thing about Havertz is hidden we no Dey see am for TV only for Nairaland pages cheesy....off the ball playmaker grin cheesy grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:42pm On Jan 28, 2021
Almajirihunter:


Every thing about Havertz is hidden we no Dey see am for TV only for Nairaland pages cheesy....off the ball playmaker grin cheesy grin

grin

I actually liked the boy before we signed him and i believe he would develop to become a great player. For now he is not ready mentally and physically for Epl.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 3:43pm On Jan 28, 2021
TeflonBlixx:
If harvetz didn't cost so much, the criticism would have been less...
criticizing havertz yesterday performance is just pure hatred for the guy,some people here nor just get sense

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