Blueelf:


You will not be the first or the last to say this. If he is killed, nothing will happen. Not supporting his assassination though. There are other means to render that troublemaker powerless.

BabaOwen:
No politician alive in the south east have more loyal followers than Nnamdi Kanu. The FG won't make such a disastrous move.

Blueelf:


I understand your point. The only thing we agree on is that he shouldn't be assassinated. But if he is killed, I repeat, nothing will happen.

You can't fight the government.

BabaOwen:
Boko haram is fighting the Nigerian government.

SamuelAnyawu:


Yeaaa we had series of prayer session. A military personnel in church said a massive operation is loading all over the NE that is why the Cameroonians are here. Funnily enough I barely saw Cameroon Guntrucks they mostly came with lots of APC's and MBT's.

We all prayed for Soldiers that will be committed in this final onslaught that there will no casualties.

Tho the CO warned against soldiers who go to operation with the intention of dealing with or shooting a colleague oh I was shocked to hear such things happen.

I was so motivated to enlist in this operation with the kind of motivational speech the CO gave

Let's go there

BabaOwen:
No politician alive in the south east have more loyal followers than Nnamdi Kanu. The FG won't make such a disastrous move.

GabrielYulaw:


And there lies the crux of the issue. So many here feel a compulsion to praise the NA for everything and anything, whereas a few others take the time to look at the overall scenario and question if much more cannot in fact be done more cheaply and better too so as to bring the war to a speedy conclusion.

Most here are the type to praise their governors for building a f***ing road. Others like Komekn demand more and are vilified for it. [b]We love mediocrity a lot and differing opinions are looked upon as being hateful and bad belle. [/b]That's the tragedy of Nigeria AFRICA .

softguy1:
So all these spiritual protection do work as been acted on the movie? So you guys are telling me that AK47 is not penetrating on those ESN boys.

Wow I must go collect my own from babalawo

Odunayaw:
As much as TYB did his share of the job. I believe he underperformed considering the length of time and backing his boss gave him.

I hope the new COAS fixes the core of the issues. And less of the drama this time, I take God beg them

kikuyu1:


Was having THIS VERY convo today lunchtime with a cousin in Wetlands. We agreed a Common CONTINENTAL socio cultural malaise , a secret contentment keeps us in our situation. For far too MANY of us WE ARE IN OUR COMFORT ZONE as dire as it may be
Our poverty and deprivation have become all too familiar even for those with the education and exposure to know better.

BabaOwen:
No politician alive in the south east have more loyal followers than Nnamdi Kanu. The FG won't make such a disastrous move.

LTGEN:

I agree with 50% of your views , it however has to be put in perspective , he was tasked to change a conventional army of 150K to 200K to COIN Unorthodox, at the same time fight an insurgency, deal with morale problems , create a Maintenance culture and then embed it where what existed before was an extremely wasteful one , get rid of incompetent junior to mid level officers. These are not excuses these problems that actually existed.
KEY example No.1
Before BURATAI there was not a single motorcycle for SF in the NA and yet the ENEMY was using it to great effect , he introduced it , was derided for it now it has been proved to be highly successful.
KEY example No.2
Before BURATAI there was not a single 4x4 SF "GO - KART " type vehicle that could be used for recce and chase , he introduced it.
KEY example No.3
He made sure to prioritize the patronage of ARA ,and EZUGWU These vehicles are not cheap, ( $800K) are difficult to make and take time to manufacture and work out their bugs/ defects.
My point is this : If Nigerians are going to criticize him for what he did not do , let us also look at what he did do ( the facts) not sentiment.

Blueelf:


I meant to say that you can't defeat the govt via war or conflict of arms

Odunayaw:
What is all this bro. What's all this defensive stance? Did you not read the first sentence of my post?

No go de feel like SAN untop TYB case o

LTGEN:

Please I think We are in agreement 50% of the time ...... that means I agree the ARMY UNDERPERFORMED 50% of the time . I also believe ( without changing your point of view ) What was in the cupboard in the NA when he got there , what was he tasked to do , how did he perform , and what value did he add or substract for his tenure.
Moment of disclosure : Before you reply I advocated that I am defending Buratai, I am not . I still believe despite everything he should of been relieved of command in early 2020 ,BECAUSE I believe he had done his best but did not have the inherent ability to END the BH war, some GENERALS know how to manage , but for A GENERAL to end this conflict it requires a different mindset ( regardless of how much equipment you are given or not.

LTGEN:
I would like to see anyone with his " Traditional Bullet proof vest" stand in front of a 50cal burst of a 12.7 mm DSHK.
Some Nigerians will hype other Nigerians till they are dead. War is not a Hollywood story , it is very obvious the people at Sahara reports or whatever they call themselves think it is.
Nnamdi Kalu is not relevant in the scheme of things that is as far as I will mention , You know who will keep on hyping him up .

BabaOwen:
A Nigerian professional footballer got in a war of words with a Military man over the right of way as the soldier drove on the wrong side of the road facing other cars.

The soldier identified simply as Nasiru slapped him over the right of way disagreement. Chikelu Ofoedu plays for Maccabi Tel Aviv striker. After getting slapped, the footballer approached the soldier in his car asking to be killed by the soldier who then came down wielding a cutlass.

An infuriated Nasiru confronts Chikelu with the cutlass but the footballer clamps his hands behind him but continued to question the soldier over the slap. The soldier repeatedly insults the footballer for daring to question him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilkk3W1ZPDk

If this guys do show this sort of gallantry against boko haram, we no go dey where we dey by now in this fight against insurgency.

This lawlessness by our security agency personnel is getting too much.

Fynline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cGCpP_SPuQ

Don't know the original source or who produced it, however it appears to me it is some sort of project. I am surprised the video has very little publicity. The navy used to be at forefront of publicity but with the past CNS the navy lost the initiative. Hoping for thr best with the new CNS.

ecomog1990:
Guys welldone to you all, its good you all spoke your mind.

I don't want to be biased with my views.

I wish to say these anyway:

CDS is administrative DHQ role in Nigerian constitution, although he is not ceremonial, he is operational, but he has no direct field command of fighting regiments, he coordinates top brass in joint tri-service matters. So I won't say much, of DHQ tri-service head, because the blame for each force is with it's force chief of staff.

For those wanting Irahbor or Adeosun for Army Chief, remember that President Buhari speaks, hears, understands, even dreams better in local Hausa language, he needs a native Hausa speaker for that very important role so he can have perfect communication and heart to heart trust & faith.


1. Outgoing CNS tried, he fought maritime piracy with available sea vessels and few air assets. He ensured much peace in Niger Delta in his term.

His request for long range & high endurance helicopters and MALE UAV squadrons were not fully funded by FG, he got only few platforms not the squadrons he wanted.

He demanded return of navy to green water military maritime combat force above brown water coast guard current navy status.

He diligently sat down, wrote, submitted, and publicly published in newspapers a complete navy modernization plan given to FGN including China made guided missile fast attack craft, guided missile multirole frigates, diesel attack submarines.

All his demands were refused by FG. He worked with the little he had.

He did well by improving local naval ship building industry and maintenance dockyard.


2. Outgoing CAS was fantastic for NAF, but also lucky he got billions of dollars from FGN for new aircraft, while navy chief was denied.

Presidency needed new air power to fight N.E. war and spreading insecurity nationwide.

Yet he deserves credit for his wise spending because another person could get same big funds and spend it foolishly.

He also did well increasing local production of some basic fleet needs by AFIT and ensured very good aircraft maintenance depot works for fleet platforms availability.


3. Outgoing COAS initially started well with the Army boosting troops fighting morale and operational discipline on the frontlines.

He did well with local manufacturing as in defunct NAVMC making armoured vehicles, especially Ezugwu MRAP and Presidency quickly took it over before Army can mess it up like Igirigi APC, by giving all to DICON ownership.

He made wrong claims that Ezugwu is 80% local input, when we import vehicle chassis, engine, transmission, battery, tyres, steel for body, glass, TV camera, PTZ night vision, DShk HMG and ammo. So what did he falsely announce as 80% local content? He exaggerated to make himself look like doing miracles.

As COAS he wrongly declared technical defeat of BHT that only retreated from Sambisa to other hide-outs including cross border.

He misjudged retreat for defeat due to lack of quality military thinking.

He was comfortable in 2015 with cold war era Army tanks for our struggling armoured corps soldiers crying tears from Metele to Baga begging him for modern AFV but he turned blind eyes to it until when calls came for his sack, he rushed to buy a few dozen VT4 & ST1 in 2019.

First awoof $200 million FG gave him to boost army when PMB became President was enough to join with capital budget allocation to acquire 100 new VT4 MBT in 2016 and revive the dying NA armoured corps to make sure ISWAP dies quickly and BHT never regroups to give us double trouble.

He failed to give Nigerian Army the desperately needed capability gap solution with a proper IFV fleet for mechanized regiments.

He failed to modernize NA, a few dozen VT4, ST1, SH5 in 2019 is not army modernization for a large army of 200 battalions.

He could not sit down diligently to draft a full equipment modernization plan corps-wide, a most important thing Nigerian Army needs since 1990.

He got billions of dollars like NAF and spent foolishly with halfway equipping of only infantry corps, he abandoned all other corps until the few VT4 SH5 ST1 procurement of just $150 million.

How he spent army's billions of dollars funds, nobody can explain.

He also failed to draw a complete training & doctrine modernization plan, he left TRADOC decayed with WW II outdated course material syllabus in army corps schools, something NA needs since 1960s. Reason NA remains poorly trained with half-illiterate NCO cadre, privates lack smart fieldcraft, officers get overrun in bases, generals get outflanked in battlefields.

He failed to build a Nigerian Army that is detterrent to enemies, even Chad remained the preferred saviour in West & Central Africa. He could not draw strategic plans for a wide gap like NAF CAS did with Chad. The COAS allowed Chad's Army remain close rival to Nigerian Army.

Many Nigerian communities in North East prefer to be protected by Chadian soldiers than our own family Nigerian troops. Shameful status he permitted.

He allowed ISWAP grow more powerful than BHT. He had no solution to illiterate ISWAP warfare with his Master of Philosophy Degree near PhD education.

He ran out of all ideas to end our painful 10 years suffering North East insurgency and was calling for Spiritual Warfare to end this war, he made his Bangladesh Army Institution training show as one of his main weaknesses. He retreated NA into Super Camps and lied to the whole nation that it was a new winning strategy to end the insurgency, when actually it means forever endless war.

He naturally lacks dynamic creative problem solving ability and ingenuity.

He may be better than those before him, he may be doing Police work with Army duties nationwide, but he was ready to keep doing push me I push you with Borno Insurgents for the next 30 years while war destroyed our local economy and national economy.

He failed to sit down, draft a comprehensive war plan to defeat Jihadi Insurgency, and a comprehensive defense plan for the weak NE & NW axis of Nigeria from Kebbi to Adamawa borderline to give Nigeria a strong bulwark against regular invasion by bandits, killer herdsmen, jihadi terrorists.

In 2016 Buratai announced the technical defeat of Boko Haram.

In 2021 Boko Haram announced the technical defeat of Buratai with his 'forced' resignation from Chief of Army Staff position by popular demand of frustrated Nigerians.

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ecomog1990:
Guys welldone to you all, its good you all spoke your mind.

I don't want to be biased with my views.

I wish to say these anyway:

CDS is administrative DHQ role in Nigerian constitution, although he is not ceremonial, he is operational, but he has no direct field command of fighting regiments, he coordinates top brass in joint tri-service matters. So I won't say much, of DHQ tri-service head, because the blame for each force is with it's force chief of staff.

For those wanting Irahbor or Adeosun for Army Chief, remember that President Buhari speaks, hears, understands, even dreams better in local Hausa language, he needs a native Hausa speaker for that very important role so he can have perfect communication and heart to heart trust & faith.


1. Outgoing CNS tried, he fought maritime piracy with available sea vessels and few air assets. He ensured much peace in Niger Delta in his term.

His request for long range & high endurance helicopters and MALE UAV squadrons were not fully funded by FG, he got only few platforms not the squadrons he wanted.

He demanded return of navy to green water military maritime combat force above brown water coast guard current navy status.

He diligently sat down, wrote, submitted, and publicly published in newspapers a complete navy modernization plan given to FGN including China made guided missile fast attack craft, guided missile multirole frigates, diesel attack submarines.

All his demands were refused by FG. He worked with the little he had.

He did well by improving local naval ship building industry and maintenance dockyard.


2. Outgoing CAS was fantastic for NAF, but also lucky he got billions of dollars from FGN for new aircraft, while navy chief was denied.

Presidency needed new air power to fight N.E. war and spreading insecurity nationwide.

Yet he deserves credit for his wise spending because another person could get same big funds and spend it foolishly.

He also did well increasing local production of some basic fleet needs by AFIT and ensured very good aircraft maintenance depot works for fleet platforms availability.


3. Outgoing COAS initially started well with the Army boosting troops fighting morale and operational discipline on the frontlines.

He did well with local manufacturing as in defunct NAVMC making armoured vehicles, especially Ezugwu MRAP and Presidency quickly took it over before Army can mess it up like Igirigi APC, by giving all to DICON ownership.

He made wrong claims that Ezugwu is 80% local input, when we import vehicle chassis, engine, transmission, battery, tyres, steel for body, glass, TV camera, PTZ night vision, DShk HMG and ammo. So what did he falsely announce as 80% local content? He exaggerated to make himself look like doing miracles.

As COAS he wrongly declared technical defeat of BHT that only retreated from Sambisa to other hide-outs including cross border.

He misjudged retreat for defeat due to lack of quality military thinking.

He was comfortable in 2015 with cold war era Army tanks for our struggling armoured corps soldiers crying tears from Metele to Baga begging him for modern AFV but he turned blind eyes to it until when calls came for his sack, he rushed to buy a few dozen VT4 & ST1 in 2019.

First awoof $200 million FG gave him to boost army when PMB became President was enough to join with capital budget allocation to acquire 100 new VT4 MBT in 2016 and revive the dying NA armoured corps to make sure ISWAP dies quickly and BHT never regroups to give us double trouble.

He failed to give Nigerian Army the desperately needed capability gap solution with a proper IFV fleet for mechanized regiments.

He failed to modernize NA, a few dozen VT4, ST1, SH5 in 2019 is not army modernization for a large army of 200 battalions.

He could not sit down diligently to draft a full equipment modernization plan corps-wide, a most important thing Nigerian Army needs since 1990.

He got billions of dollars like NAF and spent foolishly with halfway equipping of only infantry corps, he abandoned all other corps until the few VT4 SH5 ST1 procurement of just $150 million.

How he spent army's billions of dollars funds, nobody can explain.

He also failed to draw a complete training & doctrine modernization plan, he left TRADOC decayed with WW II outdated course material syllabus in army corps schools, something NA needs since 1960s. Reason NA remains poorly trained with half-illiterate NCO cadre, privates lack smart fieldcraft, officers get overrun in bases, generals get outflanked in battlefields.

He failed to build a Nigerian Army that is detterrent to enemies, even Chad remained the preferred saviour in West & Central Africa. He could not draw strategic plans for a wide gap like NAF CAS did with Chad. The COAS allowed Chad's Army remain close rival to Nigerian Army.

Many Nigerian communities in North East prefer to be protected by Chadian soldiers than our own family Nigerian troops. Shameful status he permitted.

He allowed ISWAP grow more powerful than BHT. He had no solution to illiterate ISWAP warfare with his Master of Philosophy Degree near PhD education.

He ran out of all ideas to end our painful 10 years suffering North East insurgency and was calling for Spiritual Warfare to end this war, he made his Bangladesh Army Institution training show as one of his main weaknesses. He retreated NA into Super Camps and lied to the whole nation that it was a new winning strategy to end the insurgency, when actually it means forever endless war.

He naturally lacks dynamic creative problem solving ability and ingenuity.

He may be better than those before him, he may be doing Police work with Army duties nationwide, but he was ready to keep doing push me I push you with Borno Insurgents for the next 30 years while war destroyed our local economy and national economy.

He failed to sit down, draft a comprehensive war plan to defeat Jihadi Insurgency, and a comprehensive defense plan for the weak NE & NW axis of Nigeria from Kebbi to Adamawa borderline to give Nigeria a strong bulwark against regular invasion by bandits, killer herdsmen, jihadi terrorists.

In 2016 Buratai announced the technical defeat of Boko Haram.

In 2021 Boko Haram announced the technical defeat of Buratai with his 'forced' resignation from Chief of Army Staff position by popular demand of frustrated Nigerians.

*************************************