Anioma161616:

Actually, you seems to not be very smart. As I said, I am not a time traveller, I can not tell you something which wasn't recorded by anybody.
Also, as I keep telling you, it is very possible that there was no such thing as Anioma people before the creation of Benin !
Also you don't seem to understand that I do not agree with your claim that Anioma people ever existed independently from Benin.
To me Anioma are exactly the same as Esan or Afemai or Urhobo...

You're not a time traveler, then STFU if you can't use your sawdust brains of yours to understand the basic concept of aboriginal languages of a people before any external influence(s). How stupid of you to allude there was nothing as Anioma (which is a political nomenclature)... so which people occupied the lands they currently do now? or did those Western Igbos just manifest out of nowhere to occupy those lands? Which people did the Europeans meet? I've met some intelligent Edo people but stop disgracing your entire tribe and lineage with your inherently embarrassing stupidity.

Anioma161616:


1) you are clearly wasting my time and rehearsing questions which i have already answered.
2) there is no such thing as igbo-varaiant, rather there are several different languages which you guys have found convenient to call igbo-variants.
3) "Irabor" is an Edo name (funny you ignored that), Oba is a japanese word (and also an edo word), but the oba of Benin is not japanese, or is he ... there are an infinite number of reasons why people of today were named the way they were named. I tend tp not take that as an argument because it doesn't prove anything.
4) you clearly have nothing to contribute, I believe you know that you are talking nonesense. i shall ignore you from now on.

Just the reply I expected, deflecting as usual into pointless drivels, can't even directly answer a simple question

PHijo:


It is understandable if you can't differentiate between Urhobo and Isoko. Lots of similarities between both.

My biggest problem is when people refuse to understand these differences yet they want to make decisions that would affect those people's lives.

It also shows they don't respect other people in Nigeria, if they did they will learn more about them.

I wonder why the major ethnic groups in Nigeria feel it is right to be ignorant!

The same way Yoruba and Igbo people have referred to every group in the North as Hausa.

You're Correct
I agree.

I'm very guilty of the last paragraph

Qelvin:


You're not a time traveler, then STFU if you can't use your sawdust brains of yours to understand the basic concept of aboriginal languages of a people before any external influence(s). How stupid of you to allude there was nothing as Anioma (which is a political nomenclature)... so which people occupied the lands they currently do now? or did those Western Igbos just manifest out of nowhere to occupy those lands? Which people did the Europeans meet? I've met some intelligent Edo people but stop disgracing your entire tribe and lineage with your inherently embarrassing stupidity.

1) I think anybody with half a brain would understand just by reading both our comments that you are the one whom is lacking in intelligence, so i will let your comments show this fact themselves, I do not need to accentuate it.
2) Not all lands which are now inhabitated have always been populated. Some of them were part of the forest before.
3) Some lands were inhabitated by an entirely diffrent people at a certain period of time, those people migrated and some other people came to occupy the land, your assumption that the land was always inhabitated and that the people currently on it are direct descendansts from the first humans to live on it is incredibly stupid at best.
4) I don't want to speculate, there are many possibilities for any given thing, that is why I don't pretend to be a time traveler. To the best of my knowledge, Anioma is an Edo people just like Esan, Afemai, Urhoba, Isoko, Ikwere...


Stop quoting me and asking the same questions.

Anioma161616:
@baaleoko

For your information, you do not speak on behalf of the Anioma people and you are most likely not an Anioma, I bet you are somewhere in Enugu where you actually belong.
Only Anioma traditional rulers (not even me, an actual Anioma) speak on behalf of the Anioma people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2HKeMQxtA

Also stop telling lies about the civil war, I know it is brainwashing season for you and your fellow ipob propagandists, but lies will only lead you to hell.

The fact Anioma are Edo is backed by Anioma traditional rulers speech, their traditional rulers dress code and by history as written down by those who witnessed it.

You are a clown
I waited to see the Benin connection but I only saw igbo looking people speaking igbo with red caps with igbo name of Issele ukwu with igbo title of their king.

You are confused because I didn't hear them speak Benin but igbo

bigfish3k:

You are a clown
I waited to see the Benin connection but I only saw igbo looking people speaking igbo with red caps with igbo name of Issele ukwu with igbo title of their king.

You are confused because I didn't hear them speak Benin but igbo

Your delusion is noted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZ9rJVIMh4

bigfish3k, do you claim that Uku belongs to the igbo ?

gidgiddy:


So what ethnic group do you tell people you are?

What ethnic group does the Ijaw and Edo people and even the people of Calabar belong to... Mtchewww

wildikeman:


What ethnic group does the Ijaw and Edo people and even the people of Calabar belong to... Mtchewww

Ijaw is an ethnic group, that's the ethnic group Ijaw people belong to.

Anioma161616:


1) I think anybody with half a brain would understand just by reading both our comments that you are the one whom is lacking in intelligence, so i will let your comments show this fact themselves, I do not need to accentuate it.
2) Not all lands which are now inhabitated have always been populated. Some of them were part of the forest before.
3) Some lands were inhabitated by an entirely diffrent people at a certain period of time, those people migrated and some other people came to occupy the land, your assumption that the land was always inhabitated and that the people currently on it are direct descendansts from the first humans to live on it is incredibly stupid at best.
4) I don't want to speculate, there are many possibilities for any given thing, that is why I don't pretend to be a time traveler. To the best of my knowledge, Anioma is an edo people just like esan, Afemai, Urhoba, Isoko, Ikwere...


Stop quoting me and asking the smae questions.

There's a reason why the only thing Edo history can cling to as its heritage are brainless theories, inane myths, cooked up falsehoods, and folklores/historical revisionisms devoid of common sense. There's also a reason why your people will remain stuck as a tiny one state dwelling minority with only an imaginary empire that will never happen. You have provided no existential and cognitive evidence that Igbos in Anioma are Edo besides the Edo influence they have due to years of interactions, intermarriage and of course inter-relations with their Edo neighbors... suffice to mention no single Anioma traditional leader even in all the videos you stupidly posted proved they said with their own mouths that they are Benin, paying homage to the Oba of Benin was simply because the Benin kingdom as I earlier stated had a sphere of dynasty that influenced parts of the Western Igbos, you're so insufferably daft that all you've done so far is spin and conjure useless postulations and wild theories that still can't explain why the large parts of Anioma speak Igbo, answer Igbo names, and claim to be proudly Igbos. You Benin minority delinquents are so useless that you now want to carry your revisionisms to lay claims to Lagos, but Yoruba people kukuma no dey even waste their time engaging you irritants... I blame Igbos who condescend themselves so low to engage you clowns. Edo state is a piecemeal of Yoruba, Igbo and most recently Ijaw conquest... that's why Ijaws are now rightfully laying claims to Gelegele cause you're not even indigenous to the landmass you presently occupy.

Anioma161616:

Your delusion is noted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZ9rJVIMh4

Paying homage to the Oba doesn't make them Igbos you Mo.ron! The Scots, Irish, Welsh still pay homage to the Queen of England, does that make them English? use your brains this fraudulent Edo man

Count me out from conversations with deluded people who set the bar of proof for your claim to be as high as: "if you can not even do time travel then you know nothing".
Yet they set the bar of proof for themselves very low.

Delusional igbo supremacists.

Anioma are Edo. Proven severally on this topic.
End of story, the delusional supremacists are free to continue denying reality. I have no time to follow them into madness.

Anioma161616:


Actually my talk was that only Anioma traditional rulers can speak on behalf of Anioma. The fact you do not agree exposes you as an outsider, not an Anioma.
Also Igbanke have traditional rulers, and the latter have never claimed they were being marginalised. So who are you to start spreading this rubbish ?

You Igbos just want to cause confusion amongst Edo people in order to claim parts of Benin Kingdom. Igbanke are not different from any other Edo. Just one family.

I have met several of them. I even have two co workers. I met some in NYSC. Their names are chioma, chukwuma, ngozi.
I spoke to all they told me that they wished they were in Delta State that they are marginalized in edo.
I will believe you that they are not marginalised when I see a chukwuma from igbanke become the governor /deputy governor in Edo state.
I don't even think they have produced a speaker

Anioma161616:
Count me out from conversations with deluded people who set the bar of proof for your claim to be as high as: "if you can not even do time travel then you know nothing".
Yet they set the bar of proof for themselves very low.

Delusional igbo supremacists.

Why not go meet the likes of Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and tell her she's not Igbo? you Edo minorities are so damn irritating, the napoleonic complexes you suffer from have sadly clogged your sense of reasoning. Igbo and Edo have absolutely nothing in common, go meet your Yoruba masters who taught you your language, civilization and culture and learn more about your history instead of grandstanding on some imaginary Igbo territory you will never get even in your wildest dreams!

bigfish3k:

I have met several of them. I even have two co workers. I met some in NYSC. Their names are chioma, chukwuma, ngozi.
I spoke to all they told me that they wished they were in Delta State that they are marginalized in edo.
I will believe you that they are not marginalised when I see a chukwuma from igbanke become the governor /deputy governor in Edo state.
I don't even think they have produced a speaker

So in your delusion:

1) you are the spokesperson for the Igbanke ?
2) You are the father of the igbanke ?
3) I believe any story you tell just because you tell it ?
4) I need to convince you of anything ?
5) every group which didn't produse the governor is marginialized.

For your infor Obaseki is Anioma by the way !

It is very clear you guys in the south-east just want to set the south-south on fire. You want to cause confusion and have brothers kill each other so that you can claim their land. Nobody is falling for your evil plans.

The level of fanatism of igbo and yoruba supremacists is incredibly high, these guys are more deluded and more fanatical than boko haram terrorists.
Facts and reality and logics have no place in any conversation with them.
@seun, your platform has become a breeding ground for fanatics who deny obvious relaity.

Agreed... They claim that they are not Igbos, we will not consider them....

UncannyGenius:
Agreed... They claim that they are not Igbos, we will not consider them....

Fine, we didn't ask you to "consider us", we are not igbos, stop talking about us !

Qelvin:


For the sake of clarity, common sense and simplification of facts... You still haven't told us how these so called Edos from Anioma answer Igbo names, speak a clear and undiluted Igbo variance but intelligible dialect of Igbo, dress like Igbos, practice the traditional Igbo 4 market days etc... is that the Igbo genes they "inherited" were far too superior to their original Edo genes that they suddenly woke up one morning and couldn't speak a word of Edo or bear Edo surnames? When I ask Edo delinquents this simple question, they revert to changing the topic or cooking up fallacies just to further exacerbate the crookedness of their bare faced lies.

I love the way you puncture his lies

Common logic has rubbished his arguments.
How can you migrate from Benin and leave your language, names, culture, food behind.
Aniomas even eat the same food as the igbos.
What that means is that the Benins dropped their inferior language, food, culture, names, looks for the superior igbo ones

jerosman2:
My name is Jerry Uchechukwu Oyem. Does that sound like Igbo name? Yes, but I hate being called Igbo. In fact I hate Igbo with passion. Am from Ndokwa east lg of Delta state. No so called Igbo be cos I hate yo be called that wants yo take Igbo slot. We don't need it. We are better than Igbo and Nigeria trust us than Igbo. Don't refer to us as Igbo be cos wr are not.

See earthworm forming snake.Lol

justosee:
I am from Delta and there are lot of igbo speaking group here who claim to be of a distinct tribe.

Bros this one Na big lie for majority of etchie people.

wink2015:
So there are Igbo people in Edo state.

Probably he is refering to IGBANKE !

The other day the Alafin was also refering to Yoruba in Edo state.

Maybe the Alafin was refering to Akoko Edo area, Sabogida Ora, which is one of the oldest local government area in Nigeria.

I know that there are a lot of yoruba cocoa migrant farmers in Akoko Edo area but I am shocked to hear the Alafin making yoruba claim to Edo state.

Ijaw people are also laying claim to Edo state coastal waters such as Gelegele ports and Ovia River area.

Other regions are just laying claim to territory in Nigeria just like the fulani

Even Ex-President Donald Trump was so greedy that he want to buy Greenland with its capital in Nuuk and add it to the United States but the Danish government refuse to sell their colony to America.

Humanity is very greedy.

I can tell you for sure that those Yorubas claiming Akoko-Edo as part of Yoruba land are ignoramuses.

When Push comes to shove every body know his Papa.

Even Ojukwu blew up the Niger Bridge when the War got hot

Ojukwu practically disowned his " brothers" who were on the other side of the Niger and those whom the Biafran Army was supposed to have evacuated to Safety first.

Ojukwu gave them the OYO ( on your own) treatment.

God have Mercy on us all.

So in your delusion:

1) you are the spokesperson for the Igbanke ?
2) You are the father of the igbanke ?
3) I believe any story you tell just because you tell it ?
4) I need to convince you of anything ?
5) every group which didn't produse the governor is marginialized.

For your infor Obaseki is Anioma by the way !

It is very clear you guys in the south-east just want to set the south-south on fire. You want to cause confusion and have brothers kill each other so that you can claim their land. Nobody is falling for your evil plans.

You asked a question and I answered you what igbanke people I met said and you are angry. and accusing me of instigating fight.
Of the truth you people are marginalizing the igbankes because of their igbo inclinations

Remember you were the first to say that the igbos want to marginalise them that was why I pointed out the igbanke case to you.

BTW, I am also igbo south south

Rugaria:


You are totally right my good brother..
South east as an acronym is the invention of fulani army officers. At independence, the only generally acceptable regional groupings were; the north, the West and the East... Following popular demands, after a referendum, the southern cameroons left the east to join their kins in Cameroon while Midwest left the west to establish a distinct political identity! There were muted agitation for the middle belt and some murmurings for the COR, but non materialized before the brutes in uniform took over and started slicing everything whimsically as they liked... So the borders of present day groupings are not borne out of either referendums or electoral decisions but basically were creations if some intellectually starved uniformed buffoons in power..

Unfortunatelyl, you forgot to mention that the first brute in uniform to take over thereby laying the foundation for his Fulani successors who disrupted the system was an Igbo man. Recall that Ironsi was first to tamper with the regional structure while the Hausafulanis were begging him to leave it intact?

jerosman2:
My name is Jerry Uchechukwu Oyem. Does that sound like Igbo name? Yes, but I hate being called Igbo. In fact I hate Igbo with passion. Am from Ndokwa east lg of Delta state. No so called Igbo be cos I hate yo be called that wants yo take Igbo slot. We don't need it. We are better than Igbo and Nigeria trust us than Igbo. Don't refer to us as Igbo be cos wr are not.

You shouldn't bare your private details on this forum just like that, not cause of today. Cheers.

bigfish3k:

I love the way you puncture his lies

Common logic has rubbished his arguments.
How can you migrate from Benin and leave your language, names, culture, food behind.
Aniomas even eat the same food as the igbos.
What that means is that the Benins dropped their inferior language, food, culture, names, looks for a superior igbo ones

That's because Edo history is replete with fantasy tales that defies the basic concept of cognitive thinking...I wonder how their irresponsible Oba and his predecessors were able to scam them to believe the rubbish tales they do so well to project. They still can't explain(without drifting into brainless tales) how a people they claim came from Benin and are Benin suddenly lost all possible traces of their Benin roots like language, names, culture, and value systems, is it that the Igbo genes/influence they inherited over a period of time was so strong that they got completely immersed and forgot every fundamental trace of their Benin attributes? for better use of clarity there are Igala people currently that are part of Enugu and Anambra states, despite the fact that they have been largely Igbonized... those Igala people still retain some aspects of their Igala heritage even in the way they speak and in the names they have. I've posited this simple question to all their overzealously dumb historians and they still can't come up with one useful explanation...because they know the truth... but choose to ignorantly grandstand cause they are ashamed to admit they were the grand usurpers of other people's historical legacies, everything about them from their names to their Oba were stolen from the Yorubas who later conquered them.

Mokason288:
He has a point if you ask me

I’m from Delta state, Asaba precisely

I speak Igbo , I have an Igbo name

But I never agree I’m Igbo

I will always tell you I’m Anioma and I speak Aniotha

We are not Igbo

MODIFIED ... Just as Hausa Fulani, is different from Fulani
A Fulani man will never allow Hausa man to rule over him or consider both of them equals

Igbos in Delta and the rest places see themselves as south South and never south East

I HOPE I MADE SENSE

Too much sense

AntiIgbo:


Too much sense

Of course you are brainless like him so he should make so much sense to you

Qelvin:

That's because Edo history is replete with fantasy tales that defies the basic concept of cognitive thinking...I wonder how their irresponsible Oba and his predecessors were able to scam them to believe the rubbish tales they do so well to project. They still can't explain(without drifting into brainless tales) how a people they claim came from Benin and are Benin suddenly lost all possible traces of their Benin roots like language, names, culture, and value systems, is it that the Igbo genes/influence they inherited over a period of time was so strong that they got completely immersed and forgot every fundamental trace of their Benin attributes? for better use of clarity there are Igala people currently that are part of Enugu and Anambra states, despite the fact that they have been largely Igbonized... those Igala people still retain some aspects of their Igala heritage even in the way they speak and in the names they have. I've posited this simple question to all their overzealously dumb historians and they still can't come up with one useful explanation...because they know the truth... but choose to ignorantly grandstand cause they are ashamed to admit they were the grand usurpers of other people's historical legacies, everything about them from their names to their Oba were stolen from the Yorubas who later conquered them.

Flatin0 are you with sense at all? No wonder your republic remains online

EdoDefence:


Flatin0 are you with sense at all? No wonder your republic remains online

This Yoruba wanna-be minority man sef wan follow flex At least we get republic, Edo is known for absolutely nothing of note besides cultism, international Libya/Italo ashawo premium connection, witchcraft, and forever been stuck in the fecal matter of Yoruba history as una kukuma no get any history