I will say one thing about Ole, he is consistent..

He talks the talk about the United way then plays defensive..

Consistent in using his bench poorly, consistent in staying with his system that doesn’t work..

Why would players want to play Ole football?

Leyqute:


Can you compare City’s defensive, attacking and midfield options with United’s based on experience and quality?

I will try to do a fair comparison...

We have a better substitute goalie...

In RB, Cancelo is better than Williams...

RCB, Bailly is better than Stones...

LCB, Ake is marginally ahead of Tuanzebe...

At LB, Telles is better than Zichenko...

In midfield, we have Matic, VDB and Mata which isn't inferior to Fernandinho, Bernado Silva and Foden...

In attack, they edge it with Torres, Mahrez and Gabriel Jesus whilst we have Greenwood, James and soon to join the team, Diallo...

We have the better keeper and defensive option, the midfield is a tie and they have a better attack...

In all, we are not far behind in terms of quality but Ole just doesn't have the ability to get us playing great football and winning...Worst off, he doesn't trust his bench players...

KingAlabi:

Ole should give Mason a run of game to improve his form, but not martial


Shiiit I read here is deafening

Martial has had shit load of run of games, yet no show. Greenwood is the best we've had at RW in the squad. Yet he's benching him. Make it make sense bro. The few games he's played, he's done well. Yet he's not being given games.
Martial on the other hand, is being giving a run of games with nothing to show for it, infact Rashford is even being sacrificed out of position just to accommodate that guy, still no show

People here talk shit about Shaw and Wan bissaka because if their offensive abilities. Meanwhile both of the created our two biggest chances of the game yesterday, which was wasted by Cavani. Una just silent about it

timay:
People here talk shit about Shaw and Wan bissaka because if their offensive abilities. Meanwhile both of the created our two biggest chances of the game yesterday, which was wasted by Cavani. Una just silent about it

You're naive.

Shaw nd wan basket are useless!! 2 useless full backs

100trillion:

You're naive.

Shaw nd wan basket are useless!! 2 useless full backs

Don't mind him....shaw nd basket are waste of money..

I'll pick James nd Chillwell every fvcking times.

Kna style of play dey help city , their coach also have a plan. Give utd squad to pep and in two years he will win you a trophy. Give ole the city squad and watch him lose as many semi finals and crashing out of ucl with first 9 points in the group.ole is just clueless he knows nothing. The earlier the better man utd fans stop expecting much from him.

patrickmuf:
In the absence of Aguero and Sterling's loss of form, others have stepped up to deliver the goods because Pep trust them... Yesterday, he had Sterling on the bench alongside Mahrez, Mendy, Stones etc but he only used one sub...

If Ole coached City, Sterling will keep starting over Foden...The fact is that Pep has a way of managing his players when your form dips, he takes you off the spotlight for you to rediscover your form to avoid the pressure that comes with playing and underperforming...

In all, we keep talking about Manchester City squad depth but we only talk because Pep puts them to good use. Ole will never start Zichenko when Mendy is fit, we see it here with Telles and Shaw...The fans have even started doubting Telles and elsewhere VDB meanwhile this are players who shoned in their previous clubs. If City had signed VDB, I'm sure we will have been castigating Woodward for not signing him. Every other player looks great out there until they join Manchester United and begin to look at best average. Only Bruno has come in and looked the par. Maybe, it has more to do with Manchester United and the coaching...

When martial lost form, ole dropped him for two games in a row after having patience for a while with him, and played greenwood, did he impress?, No he didn't, even James has had his run of games where he himself didn't impress, if greenwood has come on to impress do you think martial will be starting ?, I really don't see why you guys don't see ole is trying his very best to not put pressure on greenwood, his is just 19, but he can't treat martial same.

Our list of attackers

Rashford, martial, greenwood, cavani, James

I won't list mata because his a hybrid midfielder.

This 5 list are to be rotated around the front three

But city ;
Mahrez, Sterling,aguero,torres,Jesus, Silva,

Only youngerster there is torres

Not listing foden because he too is a hybrid midfielder

Now compare and contrast

dammywapes:
Kna style of play dey help city , their coach also have a plan. Give utd squad to pep and in two years he will win you a trophy. Give ole the city squad and watch him lose as many semi finals and crashing out of ucl with first 9 points in the group.ole is just clueless he knows nothing. The earlier the better man utd fans stop expecting much from him.

I don't agree at all.

Every coach has a set of players he uses


For the ole assumption same applies.

timay:


Martial has had shit load of run of games, yet no show. Greenwood is the best we've had at RW in the squad. Yet he's benching him. Make it make sense bro. The few games he's played, he's done well. Yet he's not being given games.
Martial on the other hand, is being giving a run of games with nothing to show for it, infact Rashford is even being sacrificed out of position just to accommodate that guy, still no show

Do you watch our games @bolded

And again how old is greenwood again?

Smellymouth:
I will say one thing about Ole, he is consistent..

He talks the talk about the United way then plays defensive..

Consistent in using his bench poorly, consistent in staying with his system that doesn’t work..

Why would players want to play Ole football?

When we were in a winning streak, you didn't say all this shiiiit oh.

Na wa Sha

patrickmuf:
I will try to do a fair comparison...

We have a better substitute goalie...

In RB, Cancelo is better than Williams...

RCB, Bailly is better than Stones...

LCB, Ake is marginally ahead of Tuanzebe...

At LB, Telles is better than Zichenko...

In midfield, we have Matic, VDB and Mata which isn't inferior to Fernandinho, Bernado Silva and Foden...

In attack, they edge it with Torres, Mahrez and Gabriel Jesus whilst we have Greenwood, James and soon to join the team, Diallo...

We have the better keeper and defensive option, the midfield is a tie and they have a better attack...

In all, we are not far behind in terms of quality but Ole just doesn't have the ability to get us playing great football and winning...Worst off, he doesn't trust his bench players...

Please do well to compare with their present form

Abi form no count again?

We really need to improve our home form

Just imagine where we will be on the league if our home form mirrors our away form.

We are currently 18 games undefeated away, best away team in the league this season

If we have a likewise home form

Mehnnnnnnnn!!!!!!

KingAlabi:


Please do well to compare with their present form

Abi form no count again?

When your MCM doesn't play them, how do you want them to be on form? You expect VDB to pick form whilst on the bench...

100trillion:

You're naive.

Shaw nd wan basket are useless!! 2 useless full backs

Mr Man, Utd could have easily won the game 3 nil. Shaw and Bissaka set chances for cavani who missed sitters that should have won the game..

Cavani and Rashford played against us.

KingAlabi:

When martial lost form, ole dropped him for two games in a row after having patience for a while with him, and played greenwood, did he impress?, No he didn't, even James has had his run of games where he himself didn't impress, if greenwood has come on to impress do you think martial will be starting ?, I really don't see why you guys don't see ole is trying his very best to not put pressure on greenwood, his is just 19, but he can't treat martial same.

Our list of attackers

Rashford, martial, greenwood, cavani, James

I won't list mata because his a hybrid midfielder.

This 5 list are to be rotated around the front three

But city ;
Mahrez, Sterling,aguero,torres,Jesus, Silva,

Only youngerster there is torres

Not listing foden because he too is a hybrid midfielder

Now compare and contrast

In one reply you are talking about present form but here you are listing Aguero who has hardly played this season.

Of the players you mentioned, how many of them have scored up to Rashford? Cavani?

KingAlabi:


When we were in a winning streak, you didn't say all this shiiiit oh.

Na wa Sha

With the amount of money he’s spent and the squad we’ve got he has no excuses, yet for some reason he’s immune from criticism.. are you kidding me? Bro, don't tell me I am saying shiit ever again.

Utd fans said Jose had to go because of his style of football, yet the same fans are happy to watch this man...

KingAlabi, if I decide to drop goals/assist for our forwards compared to City, you will run away...Our strikers have been better than theirs this season, their advantage over us is that they have a stable defense...

Maybe, it's you who is looking at names rather than present form...

Just checked the GF and GA stay and from what I see, we and City are tied on 37 goals for but the difference is that they have conceded 13 whilst we have conceded 27 having played one more game...That's a negative of 14 goals compared to City but no, you'll think Manchester City forwards are doing so well when in all honesty, our forwards have been better...

This is not me saying I'm impressed with our strikers but compared to City, we have the better forwards on current form...

patrickmuf:
Just checked the GF and GA stay and from what I see, we and City are tied on 37 goals for but the difference is that they have conceded 13 whilst we have conceded 27 having played one more game...That's a negative of 14 goals compared to City but no, you'll think Manchester City forwards are doing so well when in all honesty, our forwards have been better...

This is not me saying I'm impressed with our strikers but compared to City, we have the better forwards on current form...

And just imagine if our strikers have been scoring at least 50 percent of all the sitters and one on ones they've been missing

Football shaa.

handelex:
And just imagine if our strikers have been scoring at least 50 percent of all the sitters and one on ones they've been missing

Football shaa.

Our forwards need to improve but the main area of concern ATM is the defence, the coaches need to work towards solving our defensive issues if we must keep pace with City...

Smellymouth:


Mr Man, Utd could have easily won the game 3 nil. Shaw and Bissaka set chances for cavani who missed sitters that should have won the game..

Cavani and Rashford played against us.

We really should be beating Arsenal.

And in your head only forward scored all the goals for the both team . Na wa shaa. He said I checked GF

patrickmuf:
Just checked the GF and GA stay and from what I see, we and City are tied on 37 goals for but the difference is that they have conceded 13 whilst we have conceded 27 having played one more game...That's a negative of 14 goals compared to City but no, you'll think Manchester City forwards are doing so well when in all honesty, our forwards have been better...

This is not me saying I'm impressed with our strikers but compared to City, we have the better forwards on current form...

Well most of their strikers have been injured for most of the season. so despite united playing a game more we havent scored more goals.

patrickmuf:
KingAlabi, if I decide to drop goals/assist for our forwards compared to City, you will run away...Our strikers have been better than theirs this season, their advantage over us is that they have a stable defense...

Maybe, it's you who is looking at names rather than present form...

They definitely have a much better defence that one is certain.

patrickmuf:
Our forwards need to improve but the main area of concern ATM is the defence, the coaches need to work towards solving our defensive issues if we must keep pace with City...

Yah man, maybe one of the issues is the defence not having a commanding leader who barks at others and organizes them well. So many times they are all over the place and caught out of position.

MRTA7:


Well most of their strikers have been injured for most of the season. so despite united playing a game more we havent scored more goals.

Someone claimed Pep had more options to call from ranging from defence to attack hence City are doing better but I objected noting that we have players of similar capability or there about. I went further to say that City have had most of their key players plaque by injuries meaning we stand an even better chance than them but we don't have a manager with the tactical nous to get us playing to our potential...

To highlight that City doesn't have the better attack (form and not names), I proceeded to check the stats of attackers in the both teams and saw we come out tops...

The one area City tops us this season is in the defense and most of us have pointed it out for sometime now that our defense will cost us...

I know you haven't followed the debate...

handelex:
We really should be beating Arsenal.

Sure .. We never took our chances.

The Rashford I know would have blasted that ball whether it ends up in the net or not is another thing but then, I read somewhere before the game that the coaches were concerned that Rashford finishing was becomi g too one dimensional thus were working with him to vary his finishing maybe, just maybe he didn't want to shoot in a bid to do something different...

patrickmuf:
Someone claimed Pep had more options to call from ranging from defence to attack hence City are doing better but I objected noting that we have players of similar capability or there about. I went further to say that City have had most of their key players plaque by injuries meaning we stand an even better chance than them but we don't have a manager with the tactical nous to get us playing to our potential...

To highlight that City doesn't have the better attack (form and not names), I proceeded to check the stats of attackers in the both teams and saw we come out tops...

The one area City tops us this season is in the defense and most of us have pointed it out for sometime now that our defense will cost us...

I know you haven't followed the debate...

Fair enough, I didnt see where you factored in city's injuries. Defence definitely cost us a title challenge but its still our attack that has cost us individual matches. Ole wont take us to the next level and that is also because our squad doesnt have the right balance as well.

Our strikers aren’t good enough....
Chelsea - Rashford 1 on 1 missed.
Liverpool - Pogba, Bruno chances
Arsenal - Cavani...

We can’t take our chances in big games this season.

Smellymouth:
Our strikers aren’t good enough....
Chelsea - Rashford 1 on 1 missed.
Liverpool - Pogba, Bruno chances
Arsenal - Cavani...

We can’t take our chances in big games this season.

Chief, football is about creating a lot of chances and converting some. Liverpool and City’s front men are also wasteful, we have same number of goals scored with City even though they created more chances than us. Our conversion rate is higher than City’s.

City have missed 40 big chances (vs Utd’s 32) and hit woodwork 12 times (vs Utd’s 6).