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Events Of The Great Tribulation / Will Great Tribulation Take Place Before The Rapture? / The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation (2) (3) (4)
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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Nobody: 1:08pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
SonOfTheRisingS:Hebrews 4:12 says, “For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.” The sword referred here is consistent with the word of God, sell your garment to get it Ask yourself why a supposed word of God is said to be directly sharper to a physical weapon. God sees his word as a spiritual weapon while you see it as aka 47
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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 1:09pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
It is not even before or after but will happen during the great tribulation . |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by arantess: 1:10pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
DSC7:I'm surprised For all the messages he throws around on nairaland, he doesn't even have a grasp of endtime sequence of events...anyways I have passed my message, person wey blind that one na him own |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by arantess: 1:11pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Crunchyg3:In the middle of the week, yes That's why Jesus said if those days are not shortened, the elect will not make it |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Righteousness2(m): 1:13pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
oluplus: I Have by God's Grace put out that various times. This is a 2 Part Series of one of such! Most Important is for you to Prayerfully read your Bible and ask GOD for Understanding of His Word.. https://www.nairaland.com/5774034/church-go-through-tribulation-part https://www.nairaland.com/5775158/church-go-through-great-tribulation 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by cypressG: 1:28pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
It's quite unfortunate that teachings on the end times have been neglected for so long by church leaders. This has made a lot of believers to wallow in ignorance with regards to the sequence of events that make up the end times. From scriptures, it is quite evident that the Great Tribulation precedes the rapture of God's chosen ones, yet for lack of study of God's word and the great deception of false teachings, believers have been blinded to the truth. There are lots of scriptures that point to a post-tribulation rapture but I would refer readers here to just two passages. In Matthew 24, Jesus himself gave a sequential order of the unprecedented events that await this generation. In verses 29-31 of that same chapter, He then said that immediately after the tribulation of those days, then shall the Son of Man appear in the clouds and with a blast of the last trump, he will send his angels to gather his elects from the four corners of the earth. The second scripture is found in 2Thessalonians 2:1-3. In it, the apostle Paul explicitly answered the query of the Thessalonica believers who wanted to know what time the coming of Christ was and when believers would be gathered to be with him. Paul clearly stated that two events must happen first: 1. There would be a great apostasy or backsliding of believers 2. The man of sin (the antichrist) would be revealed who Christ would destroy at his coming. Kindly go through the above passages, together with Revelations 13 & 19 using contemporary translations and this whole timing of the rapture would be made clear. Believers would be on earth to experience the Great Tribulation. Jesus clearly stated that those that endure to the end shall be saved. One of the greatest fallacy of the pre- tribulation rapture is the teaching that believers who fail to make the rapture will pay with their blood. This teaching is never found in any passage of scripture. Rather Revelations 12:11 says the believers overcame the dragon by the blood of the lamb and by the words of their testimony and THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES EVEN UNTO DEATH. Please don't fall for the devil's deception by believing in a pre-tribulation rapture. Believers are about to face intense persecutions like it has never been seen before. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that if those days were not shortened, none would be saved. But because of the elects, the days would be shortened. Revelations 13 also admonished believers to be patient and endure persecution by imprisonment or death by the sword and never to receive the antichrist's mark. God bless. |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 1:30pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
arantess:Yea, you got it right with the shortened days but I didn't get what you meant by "in the middle of the week". Because it's not going to be a week thing |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 1:34pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Righteousness2:Please avoid those stuff he wrote on those threads, they are missleading. The Bible made it clear in different passages that great tribulation will start before rapture but this righteousness2 guy is mixing things up, thinking that great tribulation is all about God's wrath but there are two different sufferings during the great tribulation. During the great tributions, there will be two types of sufferings. 1. Believers Suffering: This is the suffering that the believers will suffer in those times from the hand of the Anti-christ , which will be cut short and the believer will be snatched to heaven (rapture) according to the book of Revelations 2. Unbelievers Suffering: This is the suffering that the unbelievers will suffer in those time from the hand of God known as (God's Wrath). People should know the difference and stop seeing the two as the same. And that's the key problem with all these confusion and fear that some believers have 3 Likes |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by iboboyswag(m): 1:44pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
cypressG: So the world would not end in 2030 again abi? |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Geesaintagape: 1:50pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Everyone wants to be raptured but no one wants to lead a holy life |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 1:50pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Ziel20:Oga, I will advise you to go and read the whole of revelation and know better, there is nothing like anybody using their blood to pay for their sin. The blood of Jesus is the only acceptable blood God accepts for the remission of Sin. No other blood is qualified. Forget what you saw in movies , books etc and study the Bible for yourself 1 Like |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 2:01pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
BrosTem:So will there be a second rapture that will happen for the Israelites that you are talking about after other Christians has been raptured before the tribulation ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by emmayoc: 2:02pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Righteousness2: My brother, no issues. Please I only want you to quote one scripture, I mean just one even from the book of Daniel u said to proof your claim. I have proven to you from scriptures. Proof yours. The Bible is our standard for judgement |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 2:03pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
staga:Exactly, that's what the Bible says. Don't mind any other opinion other than this |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by MacMkboy(m): 2:13pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
DSC7:Jesus knows when He's coming. That's why He's letting His people know through dreams, visions, revelations etc |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by MacMkboy(m): 2:14pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by MacMkboy(m): 2:29pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
isan: Many are called, but few are chosen. A lot have forsaken their calling, having loved the things of this world. Moreover, these are all signs of the last days. (Men shall be lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God) |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Crunchyg3: 2:35pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
oluplus:Please avoid those stuff he wrote on those threads, they are missleading. The Bible made it clear in different passages that great tribulation will start before rapture but this righteousness2 guy is mixing things up, thinking that great tribulation is all about God's wrath but there are two different sufferings during the great tribulation. During the great tributions, there will be two types of sufferings. 1. Believers Suffering: This is the suffering that the believers will suffer in those times from the hand of the Anti-christ , which will be cut short and the believer will be snatched to heaven (rapture) according to the book of Revelations 2. Unbelievers Suffering: This is the suffering that the unbelievers will suffer in those time from the hand of God known as (God's Wrath). People should know the difference and stop seeing the two as the same. And that's the key problem with all these confusion and fear that some believers have |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by sammysmiles(m): 2:35pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Righteousness2:Hello sir,,, I have some questions pertaining the christendom... May I ask? |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 2:37pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Nyanabo: Lol... Where did Revelations specify that?? John Darby teaching has eaten deep.... |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 2:41pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
engineerboat: Show us where in the Bible there is rapture saints and tribulation saints?? Or did Jesus, Daniel, John the Beloved, or even the angels lie?? See what the angels in Acts chapter 1 said about Jesus coming.... Acts 1:10-11 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. So has Jesus come already that we don't know, or will he come two times? |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 2:42pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Tladybukky: Stop watching movies... Read the Bible... Except movies are more important than what Jesus said? Read Revelation chapter 6-8... Please, and tell what you understand.. |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 2:44pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
engineerboat: Engineer....there is a difference between the persecution of the Antichrist, and the wrath of God. When the Antichrist comes, Christians will be around. The Antichrist comes with deception first, before tribulation When God begins to punish those on Earth, Christians won't be here.... Many would have been matyred, but would be resurrected at the rapture with those still alive... |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 2:51pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Crunchyg3: Yes righteousness2 is mixing a lot of things up, and it's painful to see considering his stance of ecumenical activities and revival, however I'm not entirely surprised, as he believed he would have been raptured if Trump was not president this year. Many Christians confuse the great persecution of the Antichrist with the wrath of God (the seven trumpets).... The rapture is to remove God's chosen ones on Earth, before the wrath of God falls on it. |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by DSC7: 3:01pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
MacMkboy: Gv the Biblical reference where Jesus said he knows when he is coming......... |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Rapture is a popular fake news. 1 Like |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by sonmvayina(m): 3:18pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
arantess: This cracks me up..
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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by bobestman(m): 3:27pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Christians think dey know it all but have never researched to know how all religion was set up cos the Messiah is not into any religion. Him and his disciples never attended any temple or church. They hide from house to house to do their fellowship for fear of the Jews and Romans. Everything they do was in secret unlike what the Romans gave you today. You think the it's by dreams and visions you see? Their are apparition responsible for all those things and the spirit behind them will be bound one day for you to see them all. The messages you preach in your churches are not the true message of the Messiah. The true one will be preached even in the tribulation to warn all before the destruction starts The Messenger must first return to his TEMPLE. The first people he will first purify are the sons of Levi, the Levites Malachi 3: 1-3 1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. The EVERLASTING message must be preached even in the tribulation to ALL who dwell on earth. It's the message of reconciliation and warning to ALL. It's not what your pastors are preaching in Church today. Everyone must listen to that message and believe or perish even in the tribulation and it will be preached by selected few by the power of the spirit. Revelation 14:6 6 And I saw another angel(A messenger or Witness)fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, There is also that of the FISHER and Hunters. The Fishers will go by the power of the spirit to fish out men from all corners of the earth while the HUNTERS after the message will hunt them. Our creator will first correct us before He deal with the disobedient ones among us. It's call the time of Correction cos many things we read even in the Bible our enemies corrupted a long time ago. We all are in error and the Messiah must correct and reproof us Many of you have not heard about Christ coming to his TEMPLE first, purification of the levites so they can offer a righteous offering and the preaching of the everlasting message but you want to fly to the sky. If you think the laws and commandments will be abolished in the kingdom, you are a thief cos Christ himself is the law and the giver of it. If you abolish it, you abolish him. Ppl have seen the sketch for the temple and it will soon be under construction. You guys won't see that but Rapture and Hell |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by ajensly1987(m): 3:28pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
The rapture (15) before the great tribulation (17)
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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 3:44pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
ajensly1987: Can you explain what events will happen at the great tribulation? |
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by ajensly1987(m): 3:51pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
[quote author=Righteousness2 post=98605662] [i]I Have by God's Grace put out that various times. This is a 2 Part Series of one of such! Most Important is for you to Prayerfully read your Bible and ask GOD for Understanding of His Word.. It is very clear in the 22 Bible doctrines. Number 15 is the rapture while 17 is the great tribulation
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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Maycash89(m): 4:01pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
zang:The dream you are having means the end of the age(Church as a program of grace),We are in the new age(Church as a program of truth)which is the clothation of the inwardman,because there's body that survive in the Kingdom of God, the same body which the Lord Jesus resurrect with,that's the body which the Apostle cried for(2 Cor 5:1-3)as far as this time is concern every man today is naked,meaning no man has received the building of God(Church of God)according to the Lord's prayer, the will of God must established here on earth,before the kingdom come,in creation man was a host of heaven,an extension of heaven on earth,but after the fall of man through Adam,man become a house to other demonic entities,but today every man must be built Hebrew 8:7-12 |
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