SonOfTheRisingS:
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

DSC7:



You are the one that have not taken time to understand the Bible.......

Jesus is coming very soon(Rature) but not now bro xcept if death does not permit you(us) to witness it.....There are still many events yet to be witnessed.....Read the book of matthew and Revelation to understand better......




Las Las Watch and Pray always for even Jesus or the Angels dont know when the hour will be Except God Almighty....

Crunchyg3:
It is not even before or after but will happen during the great tribulation .

oluplus:


Please can you give us scriptural references to back this up.

I have seen scriptures quoted here from those who believe in tribulation before rapture.
Funny enough, this was the same topic my pastor preached in church today, telling us that tribulation will happen first.

I have decided to do my own study in the next few days, but I'll like to see the scriptures you are standing on. It will help people like me.

Thank you

arantess:

In the middle of the week, yes
That's why Jesus said if those days are not shortened, the elect will not make it

Righteousness2:


I Have by God's Grace put out that various times.
This is a 2 Part Series of one of such!
Most Important is for you to Prayerfully read your Bible and ask GOD for Understanding of His Word..


https://www.nairaland.com/5774034/church-go-through-tribulation-part

https://www.nairaland.com/5775158/church-go-through-great-tribulation

cypressG:
It's quite unfortunate that teachings on the end times have been neglected for so long by church leaders. This has made a lot of believers to wallow in ignorance with regards to the sequence of events that make up the end times.
From scriptures, it is quite evident that the Great Tribulation precedes the rapture of God's chosen ones, yet for lack of study of God's word and the great deception of false teachings, believers have been blinded to the truth.
There are lots of scriptures that point to a post-tribulation rapture but I would refer readers here to just two passages.
In Matthew 24, Jesus himself gave a sequential order of the unprecedented events that await this generation. In verses 29-31 of that same chapter, He then said that immediately after the tribulation of those days, then shall the Son of Man appear in the clouds and with a blast of the last trump, he will send his angels to gather his elects from the four corners of the earth.
The second scripture is found in 2Thessalonians 2:1-3. In it, the apostle Paul explicitly answered the query of the Thessalonica believers who wanted to know what time the coming of Christ was and when believers would be gathered to be with him. Paul clearly stated that two events must happen first:
1. There would be a great apostasy or backsliding of believers
2. The man of sin (the antichrist) would be revealed who Christ would destroy at his coming.

Kindly go through the above passages, together with Revelations 13 & 19 using contemporary translations and this whole timing of the rapture would be made clear.

Believers would be on earth to experience the Great Tribulation. Jesus clearly stated that those that endure to the end shall be saved.

One of the greatest fallacy of the pre- tribulation rapture is the teaching that believers who fail to make the rapture will pay with their blood. This teaching is never found in any passage of scripture. Rather Revelations 12:11 says the believers overcame the dragon by the blood of the lamb and by the words of their testimony and THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES EVEN UNTO DEATH.

Please don't fall for the devil's deception by believing in a pre-tribulation rapture. Believers are about to face intense persecutions like it has never been seen before. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that if those days were not shortened, none would be saved. But because of the elects, the days would be shortened. Revelations 13 also admonished believers to be patient and endure persecution by imprisonment or death by the sword and never to receive the antichrist's mark.

God bless.

Ziel20:
On the rapture, I strongly believe its gonna be before the great tribulation.

Some people get confused though because the bible mentioned saints whose blood cried for justice.

Let me point something out. At the time of the rapture, there will be believers who did not ready themselves. Who will be left behind.

Now when the tribulation starts, people will be forced to receive a mark. Some of these believers who are left behind will strongly oppose that in such a way that many will pay for their redemption with their own blood.


They will rather die than take the mark. Taking the mark means that their is no more redemption for you but everlasting damnation.

BrosTem:
The elect of God will not go through The great Tribulation. It is the Jews that'll pass thru The great Tribulation becos it is a cleansing time for them; and that is also when the gospel of Jesus Christ will be preached to them.

Also note that just before the Antichrist will be manifested, the rapture will take place...the elect will not witness the last 3¹/² years of the Antichrist reign (which is also the period of the Great Tribulation).

The period of The Great Tribulation is between the Jews, the Antichrist and the People of the Antichrist.

Righteousness2:

Pray for Understanding!
Then Read the Passage you quoted to the last verse.
Also read the book of Daniel, Revelation, Jeremiah 30..

staga:
I used to think rapture would occur before the tribulation, but I am starting to have doubts about this. Most likely, the tribulation would meet us here and we would be taken in the midst of it.

DSC7:



You are the one that have not taken time to understand the Bible.......

Jesus is coming very soon(Rature) but not now bro xcept if death does not permit you(us) to witness it.....There are still many events yet to be witnessed.....Read the book of matthew and Revelation to understand better......




Las Las Watch and Pray always for even Jesus or the Angels dont know when the hour will be Except God Almighty....

Crunchyg3:

So will there be a second rapture that will happen for the Israelites that you are talking about after other Christians has been raptured before the tribulation

isan:
If rapture is not a scam why are Nigerian pastors buying properties and storing billions in bank and also threaten their members if they refuse to pay tithe? They don't know when rapture will come right? Are they not supposed to live like rapture will come tomorrow? Why gathered all the wealth when rapture will destroy everything anyway ? Or are they just threaten people with rapture just for money ?

oluplus:


Please can you give us scriptural references to back this up.

I have seen scriptures quoted here from those who believe in tribulation before rapture.
Funny enough, this was the same topic my pastor preached in church today, telling us that tribulation will happen first.

I have decided to do my own study in the next few days, but I'll like to see the scriptures you are standing on. It will help people like me.

Thank you

Righteousness2:


I Have by God's Grace put out that various times.
This is a 2 Part Series of one of such!
Most Important is for you to Prayerfully read your Bible and ask GOD for Understanding of His Word..


https://www.nairaland.com/5774034/church-go-through-tribulation-part

https://www.nairaland.com/5775158/church-go-through-great-tribulation

Nyanabo:
The book of Revelation explains in clear terms that the rapture will take place before the great tribulation.


If you fail to understand the book of revelations due to how it was encoded, There is a book titled the left behind series authored and co authored by Tim LaHAye and Jenkins B.

I have the complete series both on hard cover and PDF.

engineerboat:


Rapturr before great tribulation


In Gods calender the next programmr now is
1. The Rapture of the Saints
2. The Great Tribulation which is divided into 2 segment of 3 1/2 weeks (years)

We have rapture saints
There will be tribulation saints also

Tladybukky:
The great tribulations is after rapture has taken place. Read the book of revelation and also watch the mount Zion movie about the great tribulations..


Alot of mysteries will unfold after rapture has taken place.

engineerboat:


Read revelation 1 to the end.

You cannot compare the troubles, pains described in matthew 24 with what will happen during the great tribulation.

Is the seal upon the world

Read your bible very well please

Crunchyg3:

Please avoid those stuff he wrote on those threads, they are missleading. The Bible made it clear in different passages that great tribulation will start before rapture but this righteousness2 guy is mixing things up, thinking that great tribulation is all about God's wrath but there are two different sufferings during the great tribulation.
During the great tributions, there will be two types of sufferings.

1. Believers Suffering: This is the suffering that the believers will suffer in those times from the hand of the Anti-christ , which will be cut short and the believer will be snatched to heaven (rapture) according to the book of Revelations

2. Unbelievers Suffering: This is the suffering that the unbelievers will suffer in those time from the hand of God known as (God's Wrath). People should know the difference and stop seeing the two as the same. And that's the key problem with all these confusion and fear that some believers have

MacMkboy:

Jesus knows when He's coming. That's why He's letting His people know through dreams, visions, revelations etc

jesusjnr2020:
The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation?

This is a topic that appears to be generating a lot of hot debates among Christians presently. I don't think there's much doubt about the rapture taking place, because that's generally agreed upon by Christians to be a certainty. But the bone of contention was when exactly it would take place, if before or after the great tribulation.

I must admit though that this topic is one that I'm not well informed about, because It's not been an area of interest to me. Anyone of them was good enough for me because I was made by Jesus to be prepared at all times for all kinds of situation just as the apostles.

Luke 12:35-40 (KJV)

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Hence i'm not really concerned if the rapture takes place before or after the great tribulation, because I'm always ready as my loins are girded about and my light is always burning as the Master had instructed. And I believe that ought to be the same for every one of His followers.

However last year I got a rapture dream for the first time in my life. That was sometime in June. Since then I have had two more and one great tribulation dream. The most recent being the rapture dream I just had a few days ago.

It gave me the impression gave that the end was very near, hence people needed to be warned about this so that they can repent and be ready for the rapture.

So although such information may not be of much significance to me, there were yet those who need to aware of such. therefore being God's servant, i was meant to warn them about what was imminent, which explains the rapture dreams I've been receiving.

And that's what I've been doing since. Although repentance has always been a key part of my message, now it's become even more urgent because it seems there's not much time left going by the timing and frequency of the endtime dreams.

For more details on those rapture and great tribulation dreams, you can go to this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6386851/just-woke-up-third-rapture#98508258

I must also admit though, that because of the rapture and tribulation dreams I was now more informed about the rapture than I used to be beforehand, that I intended to share my view about it. However when I realized that i was still not informed enough to give a definite position on that subject, I had to suspend my initial plans, so as not to mislead others.

Therefore it's only when i'm ready for that, i would do so, although as things stand now, I'm more inclined to the position of tribulation before rapture, and that I believe is a safer position to be in the meantime, that may yet change along the way.

But for those who are completely sure of when the rapture would take place, this is an opportunity to convince those of us who aren't if the rapture would take place before or after the great tribulation.

As I said earlier though, regardless, the most important thing is for us to be ready at all times for all possible scenarios as Jesus instructed us to be.

God bless.

arantess:

In the middle of the week, yes
That's why Jesus said if those days are not shortened, the elect will not make it

ajensly1987:
The rapture (15) before the great tribulation (17)

zang:
Dear God at the last day, let me march in with the saints