IME1:
men and brethren...

Holy Spirit direct and counsel me and bring to my remembrance all that Jesus Christ has instructed, amen.

For who were neck deep in the world and immersed in secular music right from cradle and by the mercy and grace of God we are now born again, born anew, new creations,
It is easier to see things from the way of the world and the way of the world.

Everything is from God but not all things are of God.
God made angels, one of whom was Lucifer, he was gifted with music, as Michael is gifted with valour, but Lucifer fell. When he fell he dragged one third of the host with him. God gives without repenting (that is, once blessed with a talent, it's yours to do as you wish. It's for you to now use for evil or for God's glory, just like being blessed with children, money, wisdom, drawing or singing and others).

Lucifer became angry. Man was created, Lucifer became jealous and envious.
You that feeling you get when you were once on a high horse, toasted and celebrated with applause and adulation and another person rises and overtakes you? You feel forgotten and invisible?
Lucifer became the devil and made it his mission to destroy and counter all God was doing and going to do through His new creation- the world, man (covering both men, women and did children, all humanity)

Devil is never at par or a match for the power and authority and sovereignty of God. Devil cannot even stand God's arch angels and now we His new creation, who He has made more than conquerors. Devil wanted to use words to overpower Jesus during His temptation. He knew he couldn't fight Jesus. Devil was promising Jesus riches and glory that were already Jesus'. Devil knew was soon going to be Jesus' footstool and by extension ours for we who have received Jesus as Saviour and Christ have become co-heirs with Him.

The devil has been made our footstool. By the name of Jesus, that roaring lion can be chased away with his tail between his legs. If you don't believe, ask Daniel, Paul, Mary, Timothy, Abraham and even your friends who are now new creations. Once you know the power that is at work in you, the same power that raised Jesus from the grave, you will know that you can withstand the Devil.

The battle is finished at Calvary. All we face are daily and per second huddles and bumps on our pilgrim journey.
PLEASE READ OR WATCH PILGRIMS PROGRESS

The Devil whose time is so short wants to gather as many as he can deceive with words, actions, thoughts and situations into eternal separation from God and death. He doesn't care about Dolu, Musa, Cynthia, Ebi, Ifeanyi or Tewase. All he wants is numbers, vast numbers blindly walking the broad way to damnation, to his he'll which was originally only made for him and those one third angels who joined him.

Hell no. Never hell yeah.

Now Devil waters down many, in fact all of God's instructions and expectations.
He mocks, uses mirages, fake reports, high sounding words and teachings which are empty, shadows, semblance of the real deal, tainted holiness which denies the power of God, multiplicity of faiths and religion, hardships and all sorts to draw people from believing in Jesus.

For us in this times, the Devil uses the common ones-
'Who are you to judge'
'What makes you think you are the correct one'
'Where you there with Jesus over 2000 years ago? Have you been to heaven or hell'
'Religion is the opium of man'
'Christianity and the Bible are man-made and filled with contradictions'
'Even the people who brought Christianity have left it'
'Where has your faith taken you in this life'
'How are you better than...'
'Jesus said remove the log in your eye first' and all other ways they quote the Bible out of context and blaspheme the holiness of God like saying -
'David loved Jonathan even more than women, so God doesn't frown at same sex'
'Solomon had many wives and concubines and God made him the wisest man'
'Abraham was super rich so God makes money a sign of His presence in you'
'If pre- or extra-marital s.ex is bad why did God make sex'
'God created the weed and cocaine and all the substances people smoke and abuse, so it's ok'

Wow! Really?

Even music?

If you have not dealt with your old nature, the fallen Adamic nature of sin and taken up the new nature God gives in Jesus, you will not only battle with issues of secular music, silhouette challenge, drugs or alcohol, love for money, lust, unnatural urges, demonic passions, laziness, depression, disregard for life, violence and blasphemy of the Almighty God,
you will not have the Holy Spirit to direct you per time.
You will require human teachers, doctrines, dogmas and rulings on this and that for every big and little thing which your spirit and human nature and wisdom can not always answer or direct properly.

You need Jesus, I do and I have received Him.
We need the Holy Spirit, I too and I have received the Holy Spirit.
Hallelujah we are not left alone.
We are not candles in the wind, exposed to quenching or be blown here and there.
We know love for money gives root to all forms of evil.
We know music that doesn't edify us and glorify God is not for us.
We know suicide and murder are wrong.
We know s.ex is made for the man and his wife sipmpliciter.
We know we are not to abuse food, alcohol, drugs, sleep or humans and animals or God's Word.
We know the devil is a liar and he causes every evil by his temptations.
We know Jesus came to destroy the works of the Devil.
We know Jesus has accomplished our total work of salvation.
We know we are one by the blood of Jesus and love abides in us and removes hate, vulgarity and malice

Truth don't usually get likes, especially when it doesn't appeal to people's emotions

Ladies twerk like fire with miniskirt and tight fittings during thanksgiving service. There are selected churches which I can't mention where this is permitted. What the pastor preachers dissapear from my mind when I am in the midst of these seducers

sweetmelanin:
Yes. It is wrong...and many other things are terribly wrong with the Church of today.

Christians themselves have played a massive role in the watering down of the gospel. Always introducing secular things into the House Of God..
..have you seen any other religions do this?? .. take Muslims for example, these guys protect the honour of their belief with their life!! this why you can never disrespect Muslims and get away with it.

But Christians, we cast our net far and wide, thus introducing rubbish into the faith.. now we have all sorts of evil in the church, to the point that there are now openly homosexual pastors and ministers all under the our 'hyper grace', 'hyper love' practices.

What's next? We'll be having twerking competitions, buss it/ and sillouette challenge in church

Yes,you are right the Church of now has enter into the World, Worldliness is the order of the day,Church as a program of grace has ended,but today there's new program of God on earth,which is Church as a program of truth.

Jeremiah 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Kobojunkie:
Did you know that all knowledge whether Good or Evil, belongs to God?

Did you know that there is only one Spirt of Inspiration who inspires all creativity?

Did you know that even the secular songs some love to hate are also inspired?

Did you know that God gave man no command as regards what music he can sing or listen to or even how to take a shower, or grow his beard or even bath?

Do you know that when you bend your mind to obeying the rules of ordinary men you shackle yourself to their laws and their rules, not God's.

Which denomination do you belong to?

Amotolongbo:
What about this?

Papers milled in a secular milling factory used in producing the Bible.

Tablets and phones manufactured by the secular tech giants with secular softwares to drive the soft bible, hymns and gospel music players in them.

Chairs manufactured in a secular factory used in church.

Musical instruments which are manufactured by secular industry being used in church.

Clothing materials (suits, lace, Ankara etc) produced for secular world being worn to church.

There is no way you can totally alienate the secular world from the church. What should make the difference is the spiritual message and should be devoid of excesses and vulgarity.

which one is secular industry?
Is it bad too if your so called secular industries wear fabrics from church, trch gadgets from church, agric products n foods from church?
No dey confuse here.
The Koko is church is church. Sin, immorality is immorality

Amotolongbo has said it all, have got nothing else to say.

not bad.your intension towards it makes it bad

Kcee's "Cultural Praise comes to mind.

zoputa:
Many of us love to sing songs to God, but I want your contributions on if singing christian songs in Secular way is bad? What I mean is: for example if someone uses like high-life or rap or Fuji or reggae or ogene or afrobeat pattern of singing for christian songs. Again, is it bad to use zanku dance in praising God?

What style of singing is Christian?

ainas247:
If the song is to glory God song it.
Something you will find your self singing in the language you don’t even understands...
Is the heart towards the singing that matter.

God bless you My brother

Your first sentence sha

Amotolongbo:
What about this?

Papers milled in a secular milling factory used in producing the Bible.

Tablets and phones manufactured by the secular tech giants with secular softwares to drive the soft bible, hymns and gospel music players in them.

Chairs manufactured in a secular factory used in church.

Musical instruments which are manufactured by secular industry being used in church.

Clothing materials (suits, lace, Ankara etc) produced for secular world being worn to church.

There is no way you can totally alienate the secular world from the church. What should make the difference is the spiritual message and should be devoid of excesses and vulgarity.

Chai

God bless you for this

sweetmelanin:
Yes. It is wrong...and many other things are terribly wrong with the Church of today.

Christians themselves have played a massive role in the watering down of the gospel. Always introducing secular things into the House Of God..
..have you seen any other religions do this?? .. take Muslims for example, these guys protect the honour of their belief with their life!! this why you can never disrespect Muslims and get away with it.

But Christians, we cast our net far and wide, thus introducing rubbish into the faith.. now we have all sorts of evil in the church, to the point that there are now openly homosexual pastors and ministers all under the our 'hyper grace', 'hyper love' practices.

What's next? We'll be having twerking competitions, buss it/ and sillouette challenge in church

As break dance enter church Na so twerk go enter with time

PortableToDynam:


Your first sentence sha

Walahi, I just see am now...

AntiChristian:
Then you'll now ask if it's okay to dance "gbese" or "tesumole" in church?

Or is twerking accepted?

He no concern me o

zoputa:
Many of us love to sing songs to God, but I want your contributions on if singing christian songs in Secular way is bad? What I mean is: for example if someone uses like high-life or rap or Fuji or reggae or ogene or afrobeat pattern of singing for christian songs. Again, is it bad to use zanku dance in praising God?

Apart from the dance,

What is a worldly way of singing?

Cele church turned 'you raise me up' chrous to alujo and it was nice.

The Iyrics make a song, not the beat.

Iquote author=Made619 post=98601592] Bro don't be deceived please, inspiration doesn't come from one spirit because even the devil has access to your mind and your imaginative capacity. that's why the Bible said guard your heart (mind) with all diligence.

Even the devil inspires people just as the holy spirit inspires us believers.[/quote] I am afraid you are wrong. There is only one spirit of inspiration, and this is according to your Bible too.

Everything belongs to God means that all good and evil -yes, including all that folks such as you like to a portion to the one you call the devil, belongs to God.

Guard your heart does not mean that you should lie to yourself. Open your heart to the truth of God so He can teach you about Himself.

Everything you see, and can think of God is ultimately controlled by God Himself... Even the devil you all love to blame for it all is controled by God. Everything, whether you pretend it is of the world ot secular in nature -all of it belongs to and is controlled by God.

It is all God... But unless you come to that realisation, you will continue to pick at the meaningless things of life, as the world does, further sparkling yourselves to rules and traditions that are lies created by men to deceive their kind.

Kobojunkie:
Iquote author=Made619 post=98601592] Bro don't be deceived please, inspiration doesn't come from one spirit because even the devil has access to your mind and your imaginative capacity. that's why the Bible said guard your heart (mind) with all diligence.

Even the devil inspires people just as the holy spirit inspires us believers. I am afraid you are wrong. There is only one spirit of inspiration, and this is according to your Bible too.

Everything belongs to God means that all good and evil -yes, including all that folks such as you like to a portion to the one you call the devil, belongs to God.

Guard your heart does not mean that you should lie to yourself. Open your heart to the truth of God so He can teach you about Himself.

Everything you see, and can think of God is ultimately controlled by God Himself... Even the devil you all love to blame for it all is controled by God. Everything, whether you pretend it is of the world ot secular in nature -all of it belongs to and is controlled by God.

It is all God... But unless you come to that realisation, you will continue to pick at the meaningless things of life, as the world does, further sparkling yourselves to rules and traditions that are lies created by men to deceive their kind.

So all the erotic worldly music and films we see around was inspired by The spirit of God?.....smh ...

please suit urself
I rest my case on this

zoputa:
Many of us love to sing songs to God, but I want your contributions on if singing christian songs in Secular way is bad? What I mean is: for example if someone uses like high-life or rap or Fuji or reggae or ogene or afrobeat pattern of singing for christian songs. Again, is it bad to use zanku dance in praising God?

I think the question should be more like, "Is God Pleased with the Mixture of Holy and Profane Songs?"
It's really simple once a person analyzes the issue.
There is a great controversy between "good" and "evil".
There's no middle road.
A person either serves "God" all the way or "satan" all the way.
There is a certain type of worship (including music) that God will accept and be pleased with.
There is a certain type of worship that satan desires and is pleased with.
The type of music--rythmn, melodies, lyrics and beats has the power to usher in either holy angels of God OR evil angels of satan.
It's that serious...(will come back later with scripture references).
Light and darkness absolutely cannot mix.
Once a person is born again (a new creature in Christ), certain former things once loved yet not God approved, should not be brought into the new life.
When a Christian loves God sincerely, he/she will want His presence continually and not usher in circumstances that would cause Him to "turn His face"...

Amotolongbo:
What about this?

Papers milled in a secular milling factory used in producing the Bible.

Tablets and phones manufactured by the secular tech giants with secular softwares to drive the soft bible, hymns and gospel music players in them.

Chairs manufactured in a secular factory used in church.

Musical instruments which are manufactured by secular industry being used in church.

Clothing materials (suits, lace, Ankara etc) produced for secular world being worn to church.

There is no way you can totally alienate the secular world from the church. What should make the difference is the spiritual message and should be devoid of excesses and vulgarity.

was gonna say this

sweetmelanin:
Yes. It is wrong...and many other things are terribly wrong with the Church of today.

Christians themselves have played a massive role in the watering down of the gospel. Always introducing secular things into the House Of God..
..have you seen any other religions do this?? .. take Muslims for example, these guys protect the honour of their belief with their life!! this why you can never disrespect Muslims and get away with it.

But Christians, we cast our net far and wide, thus introducing rubbish into the faith.. now we have all sorts of evil in the church, to the point that there are now openly homosexual pastors and ministers all under the our 'hyper grace', 'hyper love' practices.

What's next? We'll be having twerking competitions, buss it/ and sillouette challenge in church

abeggi

Yes very wrong

Myer:

Which denomination do you belong to?

your denominations preach man-made doctrines and traditions which are lies, as explained by Jesus Christ Himself. I don't shackle myself to such lies.

Made619:
So all the erotic worldly music and films we see around was inspired by The spirit of God?.....smh ...

please suit urself
I rest my case on this

Yes, even Satan is a servant of God. Of course all of this comes as a shock to those of you who feed on the tits of ordinary men who you many of you have as gods over your own lives. But if you would only do as God commands, letting Him teach you of Himself, you will be amazed to learn that the God you think you worship is not the one true God at all but an image you have created of Him through stories told you by lying tongues out there in your world.


Jesus Christ came to give you the New Covenant and all He asks of you is that you obey only those rules/commandments He has given you, leave the rest to God. God, through His Spirit that lives in those who are born of His Spirit, controls all things..from the songs you listen to, to the food you eat, the kind of work you do for Him, activities, friends...etc.

Sadly, many of you have instead swallowed up the doctrines of men, lies meant to turn you away from the truth of God, and in so doing, you have shackled yourselves to laws and rules that have nothing to do with what God commanded of you. Worse is the more you remain shackled to these lies, the more you make void the power of God in your lives, rendering your worship of God meaningless, just as Jesus Christ said it would be.

The OP is worried about what song to listen to when God never gave any rules about the kind of songs to listen to. This is what you call worrying about/focusing on the meaningless things where God is concerned.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, even Satan is a servant of God. Of course all of this comes as a shock to those of you who feed on the tits of ordinary men who you many of you have as gods over your own lives. But if you would only do as God commands, letting Him teach you of Himself, you will be amazed to learn that the God you think you worship is not the one true God at all but an image you have created of Him through stories told you by lying tongues out there in your world.


Jesus Christ came to give you the New Covenant and all He asks of you is that you obey only those rules/commandments He has given you, leave the rest to God. God, through His Spirit that lives in those who are born of His Spirit, controls all things..from the songs you listen to, to the food you eat, the kind of work you do for Him, activities, friends...etc.

Sadly, many of you have instead swallowed up the doctrines of men, lies meant to turn you away from the truth of God, and in so doing, you have shackled yourselves to laws and rules that have nothing to do with what God commanded of you. Worse is the more you remain shackled to these lies, the more you make void the power of God in your lives, rendering your worship of God meaningless, just as Jesus Christ said it would be.

The OP is worried about what song to listen to when God never gave any rules about the kind of songs to listen to. This is what you call worrying about/focusing on the meaningless things where God is concerned.

k