#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud

Oleball continues to put a lot of pressure on our DMs and defenders. See evidences below:

Clearances: Utd have 356 clearances already this season, among the top 6 clubs, only Tottenham is higher at 414 (of course we know why). City is the lowest at 230, Liverpool - 260.

Tackles: United have 325 tackles already, others have less (City the best with 252 and Liverpool - 254, Tottenham - 310 )

Saves: United - 52, City - 33, Liverpool - 46, Tottenham - 64

Blocks: United - 70, City - 40, Liverpool - 25, Tottenham- 78

Interceptions: Utd - 230, City - 166, Liverpool - 183.

I intentionally included Tottenham so you can see how football styles and systems invite pressure on your defence and make your defenders very inefficient.

OGS needs a style that makes sense. Our attackers are top 3 in the league in terms of efficiency (City is not even in top 5), and our defenders and keeper continue to work hard, but still concede many goals. We are very good in every department (e.g. through balls from our midfielders are 18, City - 19, Liverpool - 20, I already posted chances created by select teams).

OGS is the problem!

patrickmuf:
Just checked the GF and GA stay and from what I see, we and City are tied on 37 goals for but the difference is that they have conceded 13 whilst we have conceded 27 having played one more game...That's a negative of 14 goals compared to City but no, you'll think Manchester City forwards are doing so well when in all honesty, our forwards have been better...

This is not me saying I'm impressed with our strikers but compared to City, we have the better forwards on current form...

That GF and GA is as a result of the defense, midfield and attack cohesion. That they have conceded much lesser goals is not as a result of their defenders doing much work than ours. The stats don't agree with that

nitrogen:
Oleball continues to put a lot of pressure on our DMs and defenders. See evidences below:

Clearances: Utd have 356 clearances already this season, among the top 6 clubs, only Tottenham is higher at 414 (of course we know why). City is the lowest at 230, Liverpool - 260.

Tackles: United have 325 tackles already, others have less (City the best with 252 and Liverpool - 254, Tottenham - 310 )

Saves: United - 52, City - 33, Liverpool - 46, Tottenham - 64

Blocks: United - 70, City - 40, Liverpool - 25, Tottenham- 78

Interceptions: Utd - 230, City - 166, Liverpool - 183.

I intentionally included Tottenham so you can see how football styles and systems invite pressure on your defence and make your defenders very inefficient.

OGS needs a style that makes sense. Out attackers are top 3 in the league in terms of efficiency (City is not even in top 5), and our defenders and keeper continue to work hard, but still concede many goals. We are very good in every department (e.g. through balls from our midfielders are 18, City - 19, Liverpool - 20, I already posted chances created by select teams).

OGS is the problem!

Thank you jare.

The system invites more pressure on the defenders and we turn around to castigate these same defenders comparing them with those that have to do lesser work

nitrogen:


Chief, football is about creating a lot of chances and converting some. Liverpool and City’s front men are also wasteful, we have same number of goals scored with City even though they created more chances than us. Our conversion rate is higher than City’s.

City have missed 40 big chances (vs Utd’s 32) and hit woodwork 12 times (vs Utd’s 6).

I agree with you on this bro.

eph12:

That GF and GA is as a result of the defense, midfield and attack cohesion. That they have conceded much lesser goals is not as a result of their defenders doing much work than ours. The stats don't agree with that

You can't dismiss the performance of their defenders just like that...No matter how coordinated a team is, the opposition will defended bridge their press and that's where the quality of their defense comes handy.

patrickmuf:
You can't dismiss the performance of their defenders just like that...No matter how coordinated a team is, the opposition will defended bridge their press and that's where the quality of their defense comes handy.

I'm not dismissing their performance. I'm saying we can't discuss stats when it comes to attackers and dismiss stats when talking about defenders

patrickmuf:
When your MCM doesn't play them, how do you want them to be on form? You expect VDB to pick form whilst on the bench...

I am talking about the form of the individual players on our FIRST TEAM

patrickmuf:
In one reply you are talking about present form but here you are listing Aguero who has hardly played this season.

Of the players you mentioned, how many of them have scored up to Rashford? Cavani?

My question on form wasn't even related to my reply you quoted

Which kin wahala be this

Smellymouth:



With the amount of money he’s spent and the squad we’ve got he has no excuses, yet for some reason he’s immune from criticism.. are you kidding me? Bro, don't tell me I am saying shiit ever again.

Utd fans said Jose had to go because of his style of football, yet the same fans are happy to watch this man...

You are still saying shiiiiit

I asked you why you didn't bring this energy when he was on a streak, you guys kept saying ole is criticized, WTF do you read through posts at all, or you read to just see what you want to see.

patrickmuf:
KingAlabi, if I decide to drop goals/assist for our forwards compared to City, you will run away...Our strikers have been better than theirs this season, their advantage over us is that they have a stable defense...

Maybe, it's you who is looking at names rather than present form...

Lemme help you drop that instead

Among the attackers I had listed for both teams

Man utd = 15goals
Mancity= 16goals

I don't see how the bolded is true

nitrogen:
Oleball continues to put a lot of pressure on our DMs and defenders. See evidences below:

Clearances: Utd have 356 clearances already this season, among the top 6 clubs, only Tottenham is higher at 414 (of course we know why). City is the lowest at 230, Liverpool - 260.

Tackles: United have 325 tackles already, others have less (City the best with 252 and Liverpool - 254, Tottenham - 310 )

Saves: United - 52, City - 33, Liverpool - 46, Tottenham - 64

Blocks: United - 70, City - 40, Liverpool - 25, Tottenham- 78

Interceptions: Utd - 230, City - 166, Liverpool - 183.

I intentionally included Tottenham so you can see how football styles and systems invite pressure on your defence and make your defenders very inefficient.

OGS needs a style that makes sense. Our attackers are top 3 in the league in terms of efficiency (City is not even in top 5), and our defenders and keeper continue to work hard, but still concede many goals. We are very good in every department (e.g. through balls from our midfielders are 18, City - 19, Liverpool - 20, I already posted chances created by select teams).

OGS is the problem!

Drop stats as you did in the others

Stop these assumptions

Just imagine

patrickmuf:
I will try to do a fair comparison...

We have a better substitute goalie...

In RB, Cancelo is better than Williams...

RCB, Bailly is better than Stones...

LCB, Ake is marginally ahead of Tuanzebe...

At LB, Telles is better than Zichenko...

In midfield, we have Matic, VDB and Mata which isn't inferior to Fernandinho, Bernado Silva and Foden...

In attack, they edge it with Torres, Mahrez and Gabriel Jesus whilst we have Greenwood, James and soon to join the team, Diallo...

We have the better keeper and defensive option, the midfield is a tie and they have a better attack...

In all, we are not far behind in terms of quality but Ole just doesn't have the ability to get us playing great football and winning...Worst off, he doesn't trust his bench players...

Telles is even better than the luke Shaw that’s benching him

KingAlabi:


Drop stats as you did in the others

Stop these assumptions

Lol, you sha like wahala. See below:

We are top 4 actually. But check City’s conversion ratio, then check Tottenham’s.

KingAlabi:

Lemme help you drop that instead

Among the attackers I had listed for both teams

Man utd = 15goals
Mancity= 16goals

I don't see how the bolded is true

Be judicious enough to drop their respective goal/assist record per attacker...I suspect you are trying to hide something...

KingAlabi:

I am talking about the form of the individual players on our FIRST TEAM

The only area City have proven to be better than us is in defense, there's stats to back this statement up...

#OleOUT

nitrogen:
Oleball continues to put a lot of pressure on our DMs and defenders. See evidences below:

Clearances: Utd have 356 clearances already this season, among the top 6 clubs, only Tottenham is higher at 414 (of course we know why). City is the lowest at 230, Liverpool - 260.

Tackles: United have 325 tackles already, others have less (City the best with 252 and Liverpool - 254, Tottenham - 310 )

Saves: United - 52, City - 33, Liverpool - 46, Tottenham - 64

Blocks: United - 70, City - 40, Liverpool - 25, Tottenham- 78

Interceptions: Utd - 230, City - 166, Liverpool - 183.

I intentionally included Tottenham so you can see how football styles and systems invite pressure on your defence and make your defenders very inefficient.

OGS needs a style that makes sense. Our attackers are top 3 in the league in terms of efficiency (City is not even in top 5), and our defenders and keeper continue to work hard, but still concede many goals. We are very good in every department (e.g. through balls from our midfielders are 18, City - 19, Liverpool - 20, I already posted chances created by select teams).

OGS is the problem!

Good read, Ole na shit manager no doubt.....

How many players does zidane change from the squad he inherited that won him many champions league? Give that squad to Ole he won’t win ordinary copa del rey.

KingAlabi:

I don't agree at all.

Every coach has a set of players he uses


For the ole assumption same applies.

nitrogen:


Lol, you sha like wahala. See below:

We are top 4 actually. But check City’s conversion ratio, then check Tottenham’s.

Now you have show the stats

Did you see you were wrong

Anyways Sha na just cruise

You know what’s up bro

TrebleChamp:
Good read, Ole na shit manager no doubt.....

patrickmuf:
Be judicious enough to drop their respective goal/assist record per attacker...I suspect you are trying to hide something...

Goals record
Aguero=0
Sterling=6
Jesus=3
Mahrez=5
Torres=2
Total=16



Rashford=7
Martial=2
Greenwood=1
Cavani=4
James=1
Total=15


No be everything be agenda

patrickmuf:
The only area City have proven to be better than us is in defense, there's stats to back this statement up...

We arent better than them attacking wise also

dammywapes:
How many players does zidane change from the squad he inherited that won him many champions league? Give that squad to Ole he won’t win ordinary copa del rey.

a squad with Ronaldo, Sergio Ramos, modric, benzema, Kroos, Marcelo


Which Kain wahala be this

Do you watch football at all?

KingAlabi:

Goals record
Aguero=0
Sterling=6
Jesus=3
Mahrez=5
Torres=2
Total=16



Rashford=7
Martial=2
Greenwood=1
Cavani=4
James=1
Total=15


No be everything be agenda

Go back to the post you quoted and you'd see I mentioned goals plus assist...You picked the one that favors your argument and discarded the assist Stat...lol

andrewbaba44:


Telles is even better than the luke Shaw that’s benching him

Kai!!!!
I have seen it all

So telles is better than shaw presently?

lol what are you saying are you telling me that squad can win the champions league themselves with out a coach? Even prime barca needs a coach. Same goes with bayern. Had it been kovac was not sacked they won’t have won the treble. How many players does the new bayern coach change that he use to win the treble?

KingAlabi:
a squad with Ronaldo, Sergio Ramos, modric, benzema, Kroos, Marcelo


Which Kain wahala be this

Do you watch football at all?

Mourinho never win champions league with this same squad baba

KingAlabi:
a squad with Ronaldo, Sergio Ramos, modric, benzema, Kroos, Marcelo


Which Kain wahala be this

Do you watch football at all?

KingAlabi:

We arent better than them attacking wise also

Excuses as usual, let's see the assist stat...

You Ole fans cling onto anything just absolve Ole of any blames...Even if we based the argument on goals alone, a difference of 1 goals proves nothing at this point.

The major difference between the both teams is in the defense where we have conceded 27 against 13 compared to City...

Nitrogen has painstakingly dropped an expanded stat but as usual, you just have to argue on...

patrickmuf:
Go back to the post you quoted and you'd see I mentioned goals plus assist...You picked the one that favors your argument and discarded the assist Stat...lol

Goals record plus assists
Aguero=0
Sterling=6G 4A
Jesus=3G 1A
Mahrez=5G 2A
Torres=2G 2A
Total=25


Rashford=7G 5A
Martial=2G 3A
Greenwood=1G 0A
Cavani=4G 2A
James=1G 0A
Total=25


So how have our strikers Been better?, Also take it into consideration they have a freaking game in hand.

So please explain your statement @ bolded

patrickmuf:
KingAlabi, if I decide to drop goals/assist for our forwards compared to City, you will run away...Our strikers have been better than theirs this season, their advantage over us is that they have a stable defense...

Maybe, it's you who is looking at names rather than present form...

dammywapes:
lol what are you saying are you telling me that squad can win the champions league themselves with out a coach? Even prime barca needs a coach. Same goes with bayern. Had it been kovac was not sacked they won’t have won the treble. How many players does the new bayern coach change that he use to win the treble?

Even if kovac was still bayern's coach they will win the bundesliga, I can't say the same of the champions league though.


Tell me what pirlo is currently doing at Juventus ?