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Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Nobody: 7:38pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
aribisala0: What a hopelessly stupid question. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Nobody: 7:38pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
aribisala0: Coming from an Afonjja?? I cant waste my time on dem. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by aribisala0(m): 7:39pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
Logan23: |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Nobody: 7:39pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
BlackAdam55:Are u agreeing that Igbos founded bonny n opobo but they didnt found okrika? |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
BlackAdam55: Nope...IGBOS founded bonny n opobo |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by ChizobaChukwu: 8:46pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
Let me conclude by saying that there is no such thing as different races. There is only one HUMAN-RACE ! Most of you Igbos don't know your ancestral heritage and a speaking like Onyinbo man mentality to divide and rule. We used to be independent kingdoms and communities (like families). I hail from Oraeze Nri which was a safe haven for slaves that accepted all tribes and the British could not penetrate us due to our mighty spiritual power at the time. You people are forgetting (or maybe don't know) that we had bronze and IRON AGE HUNDREDS OF YEARS before Onyinbo man learn to make him own. You people want to focus on the negativity. I don't deal with negative people but I agree with Chineye that honest dialogue needs to be open. Rather than remaining silent with your head in the clouds. These are the great things, I will be teaching my children. Umu-ada. Selam Alyekoum ✌�
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Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by BlackAdam55(m): 9:40pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
Logan23:No! |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by AdakaBoro8(m): 3:34pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Logan23:logan23 wey hin brain don die tey tey. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Sinistami(m): 4:11pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
pazienza: If a lot of saboteurs were actually from the Igbo hinterland then why do you people always pin the minorities as being the main saboteurs. The way I'm seeing you too also have a problem. You talked about some unruly Biafran soldiers attacking a man who refused to give up his goats. Now think of it, If those soldiers were Yoruba wouldn't that man think of Yorubas as scum? It's not Igbophobia it happens everywhere. I can even accuse you Igbos of having Hausa/fulani phobia |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Sinistami(m): 4:17pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
pazienza: Nothing like Igbophobia ...It's natural for Minorities to think that way when a majority filled army starts recking havoc in their communities. You make yourselves feel too special. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Sinistami(m): 4:22pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Logan23: How did Adaka Boro betray Biafra when he actually even carried arms even before the quest for Biafra was born. 1 Like |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Sinistami(m): 4:24pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Yujin: But you do agree that Igbos were the majority in the army right? |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 4:49pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Sinistami: No its not natural to be manufacturing lies against Ndiigbo. How exactly is asking civilian population to vacate a town that is about to be a theater of war between Biafran soldiers and Nigerian army wrecking havoc? You obviously were fed same Igbophobic lies by your parents. 4 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 4:57pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Sinistami: Because the saboteurs in minority areas have become elevated to heroes with narratives twisted to portray them as people who defended their land against Igbos who wanted to conquer and possess their lands. It took Igbo support for GEJ for Asari Dokubo to come out plain on how the saboteurs in Buguma after the town fell to FG forced his grandfather the then Amanyanabo to abdicate his throne, because the king was pro Biafra. 4 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by BlackAdam55(m): 2:39am On Feb 01, 2021 |
Logan23:You are a dullard aren't you? You need to focus on your education more! 1 Like |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Allen102: 3:08am On Feb 01, 2021 |
BlackAdam55:That logan23 is something else. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Sinistami(m): 3:20pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
pazienza: You don't get it. You don't understand the difference between a lie and what you feel is the truth but isn't. The Minorities felt that way because that was what it felt like. Most of them at that time were uneducated and really saw the whole Biafra thing as an Igbo war with the federal government. There's nobody sitting any where manufacturing lies. It's just a product of Minority being afraid of Majority. Stop making your self look too special. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by Sinistami(m): 3:40pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
pazienza: How many of the saboteurs were hailed as heroes because of being a sabo? Is it Isaac Boro? Isaac Boro isn't praised for being a saboteur. He's only praised for being the first Ijaw man to challenge the Federal and Eastern Govt , trying to liberate the Ijaws from Nigeria by creating a Niger Delta republic. After then he was captured by your Ojukwu who your people claim only quenched an uprising in the Niger Delta. The main reason Adaka Boro fought Biafra was because Ojukwu never gave him an apology and also added Ijaw land that Boro had fought for, to Biafra without consultation. His role in the civil war still leaves educated Ijaws splitted on wether he did wrong or good. As for Sarowiwa, I know people don't celeberate him for sabotaging the Biafra struggle but for purely different reasons. |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by ChinenyeN(m): 7:54pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
It’s amazing just how one-sided Igbo nationalists choose to be in their comprehension of things. When minorities say that they suffered during and within Biafra, Igbo nationalists will come and shout that everyone suffered. When minorities then express how this sort of gaslighting and outright dismissal makes them feel (and how it contributes to anti-Igbo sentiment), Igbo nationalists then act as though they cannot comprehend how their dismissive actions have contributed to minorities dislike of them. Yet, if we draw the same picture with the Igbo context, they will magically understand it. Igbo nationalists say they are suffering in Nigeria due to the stigma of the Biafran war and anti-Igbo sentiment. However, anyone who looks at Nigeria as a country will see that the entire country is in shambles and everyone is suffering. The SE is actually not that unique in its own suffering. We can then dismissively say to Igbo nationalists that everyone is suffering. At this point, Igbo nationalists will understand that they’ve been dismissed. They will understand that their growing anti-Nigeria sentiment is due to the dismissive actions on Nigeria’s part. This is obviously a one-sided sense of comprehension, and after a certain point, you just have to ask yourself if people just simply choose to be this way. “Do unto others as Nigeria has done unto me” only breeds a vicious, never ending cycle with no room for actual honest discourse. The acknowledgment of the trauma induced by way of Gowon’s propaganda and Ojukwu’s tactical errors is never addressed. The wound continues to fester and be exacerbated by ongoing insults being hurled left and right. Generation after generation consumes internet bandwidth simply arguing to the point of forgetting who the real targets of their discontent should be; FG. Are you people not tired by now? All of you? Seriously. It’s utter nonsense. 3 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by HarryDuce(m): 8:23pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
pazienza:Biafran soldiers --made of mostly Igbos might I add-- invaded and evacuated minority communities, FACT. Nobody is lying against you. Or do you support the actions of the soldiers? Why are you trying so hard to gloss over their attrocities? Is it because they were mostly Igbo? You're trying to save face anyway so It's your business and your business alone. The victimised "Biafrans leaders" who were 90% Igbos did not make provision for food or shelter. They just chased people off the place they've known for most of their lives because they feared the minorities were saboteurs or potential saboteurs -- a useless notion right from the onset. Thanks to the Nigerian army, a lot of those communities would've suffered starvation and would've been ghost towns by now. If you choose to wallow in ignorance because of your pride or victimhood, it's entirely your business. The minorities did not hold a secret meeting with each other to fabricate lies that they'll tell the world once the issue of Biafra is brought up. If you don't see the ridiculousness in this I'm afraid you can't see sense in anything except what you've been hardwired to believe. History is what your lies cannot change though. 1 Like |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 10:38pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Sinistami: Saro Wiwa , Adaka Boro , etc are all Saboteurs and they remain heroes to their own people. With narratives twisted as Mich as possible to present Ndiigbo as devils who tried to invade and conquer minorities and the above persons as defenders of their people realms. How exactly did Ojukwu add Minorities to Biafra without consultation? This is part of the lies I talk about. Adaka Boro was a nobody in this era in discuss, he held no political post and was hardly a force to be reckoned with in the region. The main players from Ijaw then like King of Buguma, Frank Opigo from Yenegoa who even suggested the name of Biafra were all carried along, heck the real political leadership in Ogoni then, the Kogbanis were carried along too. There were minorities all over Biafran government, from Akpan, to prof Bassey, to all the provincial administrators. I know failure is an orphan, so since Biafra lost the war, you minorities have done all you can to wash off your participation in Biafra and present yourselves as hostages that were being dragged along by Igbos and who were rescued by the FG, but nothing could have been farther from the Truth. 4 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 10:42pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Sinistami: This is the post civil war agenda the minorities pushed to get soft landing from the FG. During the pogrom in the North both minorities and Igbos were killed alike. Saying the minorities saw the Biafra war as Igbo vs FG is nothing but a lie. Not when you have minorities playing active role in Biafra from day one , starting from an Ijaw man, Frank Opigo who suggested the name Biafra for the new country. 4 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 11:02pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
HarryDuce Eastern region had Igbos as majority so yes, Biafra army rationally had more Igbo soldiers. If it had more minority soldiers, I bet the narratives would have been twisted to say that Igbos purposely recruited them to die. Evacuation of communities in battle fronts to minimize civilian population casualties was a constant practice done by Biafran army throughout Biafra during the war, it wasn't restricted to minority areas. It was meant yo keep the people safe. - FACT! Nobody is lying against you. Or do you support the actions of the soldiers? Why are you trying so hard to gloss over their attrocities? Is it because they were mostly Igbo? You're trying to save face anyway so It's your business and your business alone. What atrocities? Evacuating communities in war front to set ambush for FG soldiers is now atrocities? Adekunle black scorpion led FG soldierswho was shooting at anything that moves around PH are angels, Biafran soldiers trying to save the populace from such wicked act by relocating them to safer hinterland were the ones committing atrocities? Interesting! This is exactly why I will remain anti IPOB as far as they keep including you lots in Biafra maps. You lots are irredeemable! The victimised "Biafrans leaders" who were 90% Igbos did not make provision for food or shelter. They just chased people off the place they've known for most of their lives because they feared the minorities were saboteurs or potential saboteurs -- a useless notion right from the onset. Thanks to the Nigerian army, a lot of those communities would've suffered starvation and would've been ghost towns by now. The minorities were moved hinterland to save them from stray bullets during combats. No food or shelter was made available for the relocated minorities? Well it was same for everyone. It was emergency stuff. The Biafran government didn't provide shelter or food for my mother and her family when they were forced to relocate to safer hinterland as Onitsha and environment became theatre of war. Why do you think you case should be special? If you choose to wallow in ignorance because of your pride or victimhood, it's entirely your business. I don't know what you mean by victim hood. Igbos lost the war, but the real victims are you minorities, because you lost you lands and the resources were carted away to Abuja and Lagos. We in Igbo land still receive our own share by virtue of our superior population. But you are left with crude oil polluted water and lands. With oil running dry(Oloibiri has no single drop of oil anymore) and your lands in poverty and pollution, what will be your fate post crude oil? The minorities did not hold a secret meeting with each other to fabricate lies that they'll tell the world once the issue of Biafra is brought up. If you don't see the ridiculousness in this I'm afraid you can't see sense in anything except what you've been hardwired to believe. There is enough evidence that all you minorities do is cook up lies against Ndiigbo to make yourself feel good. You didn't start today. It was your lies against Ndiigbo that prompted the British to set up the Willink commission to look into your accusations against Ndiigbo. To their disappointment, all your lies against Ndiigbo were found to be false. I mean not even one was true! That's how bad you lots are. 3 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 11:05pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
BIAFRA’S PROVINCES & ADMINISTRATORS Above is Biafran Provinces and their administrators. It's obvious to see that Biafran government was never 90% Igbo as you were already lying. 1 Like |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 11:08pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Non-Igbo speaking Biafrans who were Top Officials during the war of genocide waged on Biafrans by Nigeria and British Government |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by pazienza(m): 11:34pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
ChinenyeN It’s amazing just how one-sided Igbo nationalists choose to be in their comprehension of things. When minorities say that they suffered during and within Biafra, Igbo nationalists will come and shout that everyone suffered. When minorities then express how this sort of gaslighting and outright dismissal makes them feel (and how it contributes to anti-Igbo sentiment), Igbo nationalists then act as though they cannot comprehend how their dismissive actions have contributed to minorities dislike of them You attempt at sounding woke is pathetic and presents you as not so intelligent. Didn't everyone suffer in Biafra? So why should we now be forced to carter for minorities suffering? Did the FG bullets or starvation policies spare Igbos? What exactly is wrong with you?
This again another senseless write up. What has situation in Biafra has to do with situation in Nigeria? Did the minorities lose their property as abandoned property post civil war? Did they experience the 20 pounds policy? The Igbo accept Nigeria is a useless country with no remedy, the rest of the country who are not even doing better than Igbos in Nigeria are surprisingly happy to continue with Nigeria, how is that Igbo fault and what is the link between that and this thread topic?
What exactly is the sense in the above? I have asked you to present proof that whatever happened in minorities areas in Biafra didn't happen in Igbo areas. The relocation of Civilians, the Saboteurs killing, etc. You have failed so far to do so, but rather prefer to be continue on path of emotional sanctimonious diatribes to appear unbiased while throwing Ndiigbo under the bus. Imagine if Ifeajuna was a minority and was killed in the manner the Biafran government killed him. Ndiigbo would not have heard the end of it till today from minorities 4 Likes |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by ChinenyeN(m): 12:20am On Feb 02, 2021 |
Pazienza, you really still don’t get it even after my first two posts in this thread. Between the development of ethnic nationalism in Nigeria, the anti-Igbo propaganda by Gowon, Ojukwu’s haste and finally the constant dismissal of minorities’ pain post-war, there is a damaging effect on how minorities view Igbo. Why do you not grasp this? This should be simple deductive reasoning. Anyone with a shred of emotional intelligence and empathy should be able to make this connection. Pazienza, please don’t push me into calling you an owhnoghowhno. We all know that everyone suffered, but who in the world will be in pain and will happily receive a dismissive message from others saying “I was in pain too”. Does that quell their hurt in any way? Igbo nationalists hate when their pain is dismissed just as much as Ijaw nationalists hate when their pain is dismissed. Instead of you to assess the fact that this is the result of Gowon (and later Nigeria) skillfully playing civilians with propaganda, you, as an Igbo nationalists, have ended up playing right into the hands of Gowon and Nigeria by continuing this ethnic tension. The same applies 100% to Ijaw nationalists as well. The war and everything else afterwards is the fallout of bad blood between Gowon and Ojukwu; men with too much power and pride, and every one of our communities (majority and minority) have paid a stupidly unnecessary price for it. No one is happy, and continued dismissal only makes people more hostile. That is the sole point of my statement. What. Do. You. Not. Get?!! How is it “woke” to want all of our communities to actually heal from all of this damage? Do you not hear how dumb you sound right now?! What sort of isi ọkpụkpụ nonsense is this? Our collective target should be FG and devaluing the power at the center, but me saying this makes me "woke". I swear on behalf of all our dead gods, you and other Igbo nationalists like you are infuriating. 1 Like |
Re: Bad Blood Between Igbos And Ijaws In The Nigerdelta. by AdakaBoro8(m): 8:14am On Feb 02, 2021 |
[quote author=pazienza post=98651107][/quote]yyet no ijaw person |
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