somehow:


Actually in touch with Segcymoore, contacted him last year even without seeing any of his comments on this thread.

I only saw his name and threads. saw his jobs too.

I am just confused on who to use between him and someone with an accusation on his head here.

Oga segcymoore, Spyder880, Aventure, Darenyx those guys get job done without too much noise...

16inchdick:
Abeg how many blocks would I used to fence 10hectare of land

Your moniker alone is scary.

Why will only you have 16 inches?

Na wa, who offend you?

nabiz:
do you mean 800sqm?

some area interlock
You will mold some interlock blocks
But driveway stamp
I was asking for N800 for sqm if I provide all materials for the stamp

MrOkenwa:

Sorry about this. Hopefully, the contractor will respond to the allegation as directed by the moderator.
Please reassure mama that all will be fine soonest. Cheers

Is he going to reassure mama that the rain water already in her house has not spoilt her belongings?

Or what kind of reassurance will he give her?

What would have prompt him not to have honour the contract within the shortest possible duration?

Is there actually any crime for someone to turn down an offer?


Some stories just no good to hear at all. We look up to people and before you know funny syoriesy start coming up which actually as supposed not to occur.

n3xt:


That's my company name na.
I mentioned it earlier.

Ok then, sorry about that

davodyguy:

Your moniker alone is scary.

Why will only you have 16 inches?

Na wa, who offend you?

I beg no let laughing � kill me oooo

kopell:
I beg no let laughing � kill me oooo

That guy must be one serious pervert

Nairaland must not be use as platform for for stealing , 419 and yahoo , yahoo
We all that have benefited from using this platform must ensure we protect each other
We Nigerian including me are all pure evil
Money is God
We Nigerians are people without values, moral and trust when it come to money
Nigerian is FINISH

We keep blame the government or Buhari
Buhari is not the governor
Buhari is not the chairman of the local govt
Buhari is not the clerk at the court house
Buhari is not the clerk at the electrical company

Nigerian are useless in regard to developing Nigeria--- we are me and me people
We will keep playing role in developing other countries

zuraking:
The mute (laywer) moderator we think never existed now pop out from nowhere cos of this particular case. If you can't moderate or have time to moderate, tell seun to put another person.

Whatever that prompt the moderator to come out now to speak is very very insignificant giving that there are even still other issues that have lingered that I felt should have been sorted out.


Whatever that which is happening behind the scenes especially those who have helped in addressing certain issues, your efforts are well applauded but I think you all have to up your game.

It's very very unprofessional for anyone to de-roof a living house with household items and leave it undone for more than 48 hours!¡!!!!!

No matter the circumstances the contractor might be passing through it's just plain wickedness on his part.

kopell:
Ok then, sorry about that

Baba, me ke. I should even be the one to say sorry sir.

bixton:



Whatever that prompt the moderator to come out now to speak is very very insignificant giving that there are even still other issues that have lingered that I felt should have been sorted out.


Whatever that which is happening behind the scenes especially those who have helped in addressing certain issues, your efforts are well applauded but I think you all have to up your game.

It's very very unprofessional for anyone to de-roof a living house with household items and leave it undone for more than 48 hours!¡!!!!!

No matter the circumstances the contractor might be passing through it's just plain wickedness on his part.

now imagine that this is more than 7months ago. There is no excuse at all. He needs to be taken to the slaughter. Nobody should ever deroof a house without the new roof waiting in the compound to be reroofed.

Missing words of wisdom from Egunmogaji and HajjiM

uncleteeh:

Pls don't do that sir. If it's possible, meet people in person b4 u give jobs out.
Nairaland has given me jobs and clients so much.
I have never met most clients until recently when some who reside in Ibadan always decide to meet me.
There are still trustworthy people out here.

This is true. I personally know someone who has given you jobs.

Where are the cement sellers? What's going on? Latest price.

folmus:
Where are the cement sellers? What's going on? Latest price.

3200 in my area Ogun state

Dijita:

The transaction going on on this forum per year is probably close to a billion and no security whatsoever. Men forget it

The transaction ongoing here worth a lot more. Between 2014 and 2015, NextHome transacted over N500m in business over here.

We can’t just keep talking about problems whenever issues arise, we need to work on systems to protect the contractors and the homeowners alike.

At moment, I’m building my business to a level where I don’t even need your cash to provide you anything you need.

We discussed doors. I can show you picture of the doors that’s currently ongoing in my yard. I don’t have to wait for your fund if I really mean business.

The same thing with the openable burglar proofs. I bought quite some quantity of 16mm square rods and pipes to produce different designs and samples and also meet any order whenever it comes.

Instead of reacting all the time issues arise, we should respond to these issues with a shift in our approach and strategies (the way we engage our artisans, contractors, building professionals and the way we conduct our businesses).

99% of the problem here is communication issues.

folmus:
Where are the cement sellers? What's going on? Latest price.

You’ll still get btw 2900 and 3000 in Sagamu

I'm trying to understand something here, if a client give a job to a contractor for X amount, and the contractor fails to deliver, and the client asks for refund, is it the exact amount paid that should be refunded bearing in mind inflation, eg if I pay 10m when cement was 2350 to complete a bungalow and the contractor fails, won't it be absurd for the contractor to refund me same 10m, when I can no longer complete the project with the said 10m due to inflation

AppDevt:



We contacted Skimanski based on Nairaland, we would had someone else outside but decided to patronize a fellow nairalander .
Out of 3.8M he charged us ,we paid him 3.7M.
If it was young people i woudnt feel so bad , but an elderly woman's house , imagine the trauma after removing roof and rain poured yesterday , everything Gone , she was drenched . Imagine the condition now .

omoh people get mind ooo ,3.7m for that matter. why send such amount to a person you've never met before. in this life trust nobody

vickzie:
I'm trying to understand something here, if a client give a job to a contractor for X amount, and the contractor fails to deliver, and the client asks for refund, is it the exact amount paid that should be refunded bearing in mind inflation, eg if I pay 10m when cement was 2350 to complete a bungalow and the contractor fails, won't it be absurd for the contractor to refund me same 10m, when I can no longer complete the project with the said 10m due to inflation

cc: davodyguy

BIGGIE121:



omoh people get mind ooo ,3.7m for that matter. why send such amount to a person you've never met before. in this life trust nobody

It's not "mind" but stealing
Call it other type of 419 or yahoo, yahoo

skimanski:
Chaii!! Pls ma, at least I have never defrauded anyone here ma. And never will. Please saying I defrauded you of 3.8m is incorrect and saying it like that means my name becomes labelled as such. And that becomes a problem for my business.

Please ma. I am sorry if there are delays in your project, but let’s say it the way it is. Please . This forum is where I grew up and got to where I am today. Please I haven’t and will never take any ones money. Definitely we have had challenges in projects. But never will we defraud anyone.

Hi Bro,

Whatever has happened has not come to destroy you but to teach you.

Please be strong and do everything you can to get the issues resolved ASAP and make your clients happy like you’ve always do.

@Appdevt I feel your plight and can only say sorry for all the inconveniences this might have caused you and your family (especially the old woman). The allegation came to me as a rude shock because skimanski has never been found wanting and his works are iconic.

I pray you can work this together and get the issues behind you.

n3xt:


Hi Bro,

Whatever has happened has not come to destroy you but to teach you.

Please be strong and do everything you can to get the issues resolved ASAP and make your clients happy like you’ve always do.

@Appdevt I feel your plight and can only say sorry for all the inconveniences this might have caused you and your family (especially the old woman). The allegation came to me as a rude shock because skimanski has never been found wanting and his works are iconic.

I pray you can work this together and get the issues behind you.

No Roofing job with people living in the house should be delay for 24 hours
That job should be done with a speed of light
unacceptable

lawyer:


Firstly for someone to say I have been here for 9 years and done nothing is very untrue. Property forum has the highest number of posters opening new threads everyday advertising their properties for sale and my job description is to monitor those who Spam threads and people who abuse the rules of the forum. My job does not entail sorting out personal feuds, identifying scam artists or calling out fraudsters. Nairaland is a forum. If you are scammed, you have to take recourse legally. There is no provision for a special court or better business bureau to handle fraudulent cases rather everyone is repeatedly warned to know who they are dealing with and the Caveat Emptor Rule is placed everywhere.

I am not the police. I am not a Judge. I am not an Arbitrator. I only can help out settling disputes peacefully if I am invited to come in. If no one calls out a fraudster here personally and tags me, how am I to know that someone has been duped? When they were arranging the business I was not there. When they were paid, I was not there. If they have done the job well, nobody would contact me. But when issues occur, all hell would be let loose that Lawyer is not doing his job. My job here once again is to ban, block out spammers and make sure a thread is flowing without rancour or insults. If people contact me personally to settle issues offline, then I would play my role as an arbiter of justice to settle it amicably if I choose to. If it turns out to be a legal issue then law personnel would come in.

I chose not to face the construction section because Alhaji Muftau was doing a great job here and I recommended him to Seun to make him a Moderator to monitor this thread while I faced the other threads that had trolls, spammers and trouble makers. On average, I check over 1000 posts a day on the property forum to make sure they don't violate the rules. How am I to know someone is defrauding another person when I wasn't told? It was until this case was reported to me that I knew there was an issue to sort out. I check this forum every day to do my job privately.

I chose not to comment or post anything for years because so many small boys and girls here became abusive and derailed so many intelligent posts and comments I was making and I had enough dealing with abusive people for no reason and kept to my self without commenting for years. If I choose to keep to myself, it's my prerogative. This issue between Skimanski and AppDevt would be resolved and that's the aim in settling a dispute. Any idiot who tries to infer that I am coming into this issue because I am Yoruba and the parties involved are Yoruba would be banned from this forum. He or she can carry their tribalistic attitude to the Tribal Forum not here. If you criticize me fairly, I would be the first to accept the criticism and promise to do better. If you think you can use that opportunity to insult me and cast aspertations on my character for no reason, I wont argue with you but ban you straight.

You started so well and ended up sounding like the people you are actually working hard to keep away from this forum. Threatening people with ban solves nothing, infact it encourages them to keep opening multiple accounts.

I would love to address a point you brought up. You recommended alhaji muftau to seun. In the last year or two alhaji muftau's contribution has dwindled or becomenon existent. There was a time he mentioned he was no longer a moderator. He is someone I have been following since 2012, the wealth of experience and stability he brings to property section is immesurable.

Sir if you can fix that relationship with seun and alhaji muftau, there might be no need for you to use a lot of your time to meddle in all this crisis.

Shebi I have sounded well shey?

Mr lawyer, if you want to ban me you can ban me now. I have made my point.

GoodFaith:

No Roofing job with people living in the house should be delay for 24 hours
That job should be done with a speed of light
unacceptable

Sir, recession and covid wreck a lot of havoc on so many projects last year (especially big contractors).

I was on the site of someone here on project inspection visit in the last quarter of 2020. I can remember his contractor came to request for variation on the roof project he was handling for him. It wasn’t a small amount as the project is very big.

The lockdown wrecked a lot of people who were sitting on monies but couldn’t get their orders fulfilled because most companies aren’t working in full capacity. No one want to tie down their monies in midst of uncertainties.

Between last December and this moment, the price of aluminum sheet has gone up by nothing less than N300 per m and most manufacturers who do 10 coils have scaled down to 7 coils and even lesser.

We (manufacturers, service providers, homeowners, tradespeople) are going through a lot at moment and it’s wise for any contractor to allow the owners to provide them all the materials needed for a project or otherwise get their hands burnt.

In December last year, I paid for a roof and when we were about to go and pick up in Lagos, we got information that price has increased and that they’ll refund our money to us. My closeness to system allowed us to get at old rate.
My roofer wanted to collect the money and I told him “Don’t ever try it. We will never get it cheaper elsewhere and if we do the money won’t be complete again. Let me speak with Leon.”

What I’m trying to pass across is at times some issues happen not because a contractor have evil intentions but because we operate in a chaotic business climate and no one seems to care.

_______

Aluminium profiles is another crazy materials to watch. As at today, any smart window contractor must first confirm the market price before he gives quotation to his client. If not... it might end in tears like my friend michlins always say.

rationalmind:


Money121

MrOkenwa:

Chief, I’m not in the mood to shalaye. Nobody in his right sense will do what skimanski did to that family. I’m even still wondering why it took them this far before dragging him on here.
I just hope and pray that the issue gets resolved asap.

Well in this forum there are so many things that happen behind the scene. What happens offline here exceeds that done online.

If I'm not mistaken I think the client complained here sometime around December 2020 or thereabout.........


My sympathy goes to the elderly woman of the house who is going through undue stress.

GoodFaith:


some area interlock
You will mold some interlock blocks
But driveway stamp
I was asking for N800 for sqm if I provide all materials for the stamp

I will send you a quote

n3xt:


Sir, recession and covid wreck a lot of havoc on so many projects last year (especially big contractors).

I was on the site of someone here on project inspection in the last quarter of 2020. I can remember his contractor came to request for variation on the roof project he was handling for him. It wasn’t a small amount as the project is very big.

The lockdown wrecked a lot of people who were sitting on monies but couldn’t get their orders fulfilled because most companies aren’t working in full capacity. No one want to tie down their monies in midst of uncertainties.

Between last December and this moment, the price of aluminum sheet has gone up by nothing less than N300 per m and most manufacturers who do 10 coils have scaled down to 7 coils and even lesser.

We (manufacturers, service providers, homeowners, tradespeople) are going through a lot at moment and it’s wise for any contractor to allow the owners to provide them all the materials needed for a project or otherwise get their hands burnt.

In December last year, I paid for a roof and when we were about to go and pick up in Lagos, we got information that price has increased and that they’ll refund our money to us. My closeness to system allowed us to get at old rate.
My roofer wanted to collect the money and I told him “Don’t ever try it. We will never get it cheaper elsewhere and if we do the money won’t be complete again. Let me speak with Leon.”

What I’m trying to pass across is at times some issues happen not because a contractor have evil intentions but because we operate in a chaotic business climate and no one seems to care.

_______

Aluminium profiles is another crazy materials to watch. As at today, any smart window contractor must first confirm the market price before he gives quotation to his client. If not... it might end in tears like my friend michlins always say.

Baba we understand all this things. The client mentioned about contacting the contractor around June/July.......can't say when actual cash payment was done but if this happened between July and October for cash transfers then the excuse of material price variation/availability should be something that must have been trashed.
Now I do not think any roofer removes an old sheet without proper confirmation that the replacement is on site or on the way to the site especially when you know very well that the owner of the structure sleeps in the house.
In this scenario you don't de-roof completely na. It's removed in bits and replaced accordingly.

atsechurch
Good evening everyonepls I need a quote for casement windows
4X5= 8
4X4= 20
2X2 1/2=16
2 1/2X 7 =1
With embedded burglary and net,reflective blue glass. Site is in jeddo, delta state.

atsechurch@yahoo.com
Thks