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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:16pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Between 2016 and 2018; Pep signed 22 players, Jose signed 10 They both arrived at the same time in 2016 summer City won the league title in 2014, United won it in 2013. City reached CL semifinal in 2016, United in 2011. It’s easy to know the club that has ambitions and the one that is snoring. patrickmuf: The difference Pep sold Nolito back to where he got it from under 9 months. He was not asked to develop him like United fans are asking their manager to develop Daniel James or Lindelof or Shaw. Pep signed Bravo, Bravo didn’t work. Pep got Ederson as a replacement immediately. City had Hart, Pep didn’t even wait to see what Hart had to offer before signing Bravo. This is what ambitious clubs do. Meanwhile, everyone knows James would never amount to anything but he’s still collecting wages at United. It takes United 5 years to move their redundant players on. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:21pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
What exactly is spending on players and spending to win the league? So, spending on Mkhitaryan, Ibra, Pogba is spending on players... Spending on Maguire, AWB, Bruno, VDB, Telles etc is spending on players... Pray tell, what does it mean to spend for the sake of winning? So if the aforementioned players win the league this season, we'll say we spend on players and later to win the league? Doesn't it sound funny? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:23pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:How much did we spend on Lukaku, Pogba, Maguire etc? With same amount, City will buy 6-7 players but no, they buy more players so we should blame the Glazers. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:24pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
This Llori’s save js a replica of the goal we conceded vs Sevilla. De Gea just Dey sleep for post. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:26pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Spending on players = spending for the sake of it - buying bargain basement players that aren’t up to standard. Spending to win the league = buying world class players that would easily fit into the other elite clubs in Europe. If that is too complex for you, let’s try this. How many current United players can start for United in the 07/08 team that won the champions league? patrickmuf: Lukaku - 2017 summer Pogba - 2016 summer Maguire - 2019 summer Meanwhile, Lukaku’s money bought Maguire. ![]() ![]() The richest club in Britain? ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:30pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:Mkhitaryan wasn't elite? Pogba? Bruno? Ibra? VDB? Or is your definition of elite only players that shine with us? OMG! At one point we signed the best players in the French Ligue 1, German Bundesliga and Serie A but no, we only sign average players...I just can't deal with this level of revisionism... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:32pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:Liverpool have won the UCL and EPL in just about the same time, pray tell, how much more have they spent? We keep talking about rebuilding like we are rebuilding the world trade center... 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:33pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:How many of the current man city players can start for united team of 2007/2008? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:34pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Interesting view from the fence I am not engaging today ![]()
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:35pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Liverpool actually spent money in the key areas where they needed replacements Alisson, Van Dijk, Mane, Salah, etc and majority of Klopp’s purchases are still with him. Unlike United who sell high valued players to quickly buy another one. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:36pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
KingAlabi:Hehehe If he replies again, I will end the argument with just one question...Watch out... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:37pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Jodera: The Man City of today are 200 times better than their squad in 2007/8. The Man Utd of today are 4000 times worse than their squad in 2007/8. That’s the point. City are getting better and better, United are getting worse. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:38pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:If you acknowledge the Glazers are the problem, why then do you want Ole sacked? If you argue that Ole should be sacked, doesn't it imply we have a squad good enough to win the league? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:40pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: I already addressed this but you are too far gone to pay attention. The owners are bad & Ole is terrible. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:41pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:So, what should we realistically expect of Ole considering the role the owners have played as you claim? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:41pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:How many of them when signed was "signed to win the league"? Robertson? Wijnaldum? Mane? Chamberlain? Shaqiri? Fabinho? Milner? Salah? Allison? Which would you call " winning the league players" before their arrival to Liverpool |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:42pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Jodera:His argument on signing players to win the leahue falls flat on its head... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:45pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Jodera: Nearly all of them - they were signed to address the weakness in the team. When Karius pòoped his pants in the Champions League final, Klopp quickly signed Alisson. United have not had a traditional winger since Nani left about 6 years ago. United can’t even sign a football director in the last 8 years and you wonder why the team is underperforming. The owners are shit, the structure is shit and they compounded the aroma of shit by signing one of the worst managers in history. A manager no other team in the top 6 would sign. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:46pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Zero trophies Top 4 position or thereabouts Different excuses every season. Ole will get sacked Another manager would come in Repeat the cycle |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:47pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:I will be here to checkmate you whenever you have a dig at Ole... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:48pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: You checkmate yourself. Jose has proven this squad can at least win a trophy or two even if they aren’t the biggest trophies. Van Gaal won a trophy with a shittier squad under the same owners. If Ole isn’t winning anything under the same owners with a better squad, it simply means Ole is a failure. Logic 101. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:50pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:You said your expectation of Ole is a top 4 finish and zero trophies and thus far, he hasn't failed to deliver, so how is he a shit manager? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:51pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:Considering how bad the Glazers have been, what is your expectation of Ole? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:52pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:The point I see is just the difference in managers. City moved from Hughes to Pep Man u moved from Saf to Solskjaer. Simple. Most of the guardiola buys aren't even regulars in his first 2-3 seasons, it's mostly Hughes and Mancini buys. And why they're not present now is because of old age. Else, they for still dey bench all Pep's buys join 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:53pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: He’s a shit manager because his predecessors achieved more with a shittier squad than Ole’s. Under 2 years, Van Gaal won FA cup Under 9 months, Jose won EFL cup & Europa After 2 years, Ole can’t get past a semifinal with a much better squad. And you have the nerve to ask how he’s a shit manager? 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:55pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable:In other words, with a world class manager, we can win the league... The question is; if we win the leahue with a world class manager and the same set of players, doesn't it mean the Glazers signed players to win the league? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:56pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Jodera: They were achieving before Pep. Pellegrini won a league title in his debut season and was a goal away from getting to Champions League final. Pep won nothing on his debut and he’s yet to play in a semifinal tie in Europe. Mancini won the league title Pellegrini won the league title. Pep winning it is tradition. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:57pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Lol, you want the Glazers to have spent additional 900m on top over 1 billion spent in the last 7-8 years on players? Why are you like this now? do you think that money grows on trees? Also, you said that they did not put money in the club, what about the debt they used to buy the club and the one for operating activities. Wait sef, you think people buy clubs so they can put money in it so fans can be happy, while they the owners will have negative returns? Geez! Many clubs are in huge debts because of transfers not even up to 30 percent of total revenues. Check Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Juventus. These clubs have more debt than Utd and they don’t even spend. Real Madrid have spent just 19 percent of total revenues in the last 8 years on transfers, this is significantly lower than Utd’s spend (relatively). There is no relationship here between not winning the league in 8 years and not spending, because we have spent more than enough. Meanwhile, Chelsea, Liverpool and LCFC have won the league in the last 10 years, have they spent more than man utd in the same time? Answer all my questions o! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 10:57pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Chief! You get energy o.... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:58pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: A world class manager can punch above his weight and win the league - of course, there’s a possibility of that. It doesn’t necessarily mean the Glazers have bought players capable of overpowering their rivals. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:59pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Nawa o, But you said we don’t have the players now, because the Glazers have not spent. Wait, how come we moved from a shittier team to a shitty team, and then a relatively okay team? Even though we have not spent. You are trying o! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:00pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
olabode89:I just tire for the argument...The dude was praised a little while ago and next he thinks he can just drop anything here and we'll take it for the holy grail... |
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