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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:00pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
His argument on signing players to win the leahue falls flat on its head...
As in... First time I'm hearing that.

A team that signed

Lukaku(had higher prospect than mane)
Shaw (had higher prospect than Robertson)
Pogba(had higher prospect than wijnaldum)
Sanchez (had higher prospect than salah)
Mkhi(had higher prospect than fabinho)

Only van dijk to Maguire will I even say Liverpool had higher prospect there.

That man u own didn't work out (due to poor or wrong managers) doesn't mean una no sign better players wey fit suppose carry league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:01pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hehehe If he replies again, I will end the argument with just one question...Watch out...
Na your follow oleouter na

Enjoy!! grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:02pm On Feb 04, 2021
KingAlabi:

Na your follow oleouter na

Enjoy!! grin

This one is a confused oleouter o....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:03pm On Feb 04, 2021
Illimitable:


A world class manager can punch above his weight and win the league - of course, there’s a possibility of that. It doesn’t necessarily mean the Glazers have bought players capable of overpowering their rivals.
Lol I wonder what you'd say of we signed Robertson from Relegated Hull, Wijnaldum from relegated Newcastle, Shaqiri from relegated Stoke, VVD and Mane from Southampton...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:05pm On Feb 04, 2021
Illimitable:


Nearly all of them - they were signed to address the weakness in the team.

When Karius pòoped his pants in the Champions League final, Klopp quickly signed Alisson.

United have not had a traditional winger since Nani left about 6 years ago.

United can’t even sign a football director in the last 8 years and you wonder why the team is underperforming.

The owners are shit, the structure is shit and they compounded the aroma of shit by signing one of the worst managers in history. A manager no other team in the top 6 would sign.

Oh... They were signed to address the weakness, but not to carry league shey?

Cos you can't tell me those same crop of players donning man u Jersey will carry the league(,with 95+ point) and champions league with either mourinho, van gaal or solskjaer as coach.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:07pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
In other words, with a world class manager, we can win the league...

The question is; if we win the leahue with a world class manager and the same set of players, doesn't it mean the Glazers signed players to win the league?
Patrick grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:08pm On Feb 04, 2021
nitrogen:


Lol, you want the Glazers to have spent additional 900m on top over 1 billion spent in the last 7-8 years on players? Why are you like this now? do you think that money grows on trees? Also, you said that they did not put money in the club, what about the debt they used to buy the club and the one for operating activities. Wait sef, you think people buy clubs so they can put money in it so fans can be happy, while they the owners will have negative returns? Geez!

Discuss Man City.

Their owners have put £1 billion into the club since 2008, the Glazers have removed double of that from United.

Remember Roman Abramovic too? Remember how he paid all Chelsea’s debt and put his money to good use by winning the league twice in a row?

Those are owners - unlike the parasites in your club.

nitrogen:

Many clubs are in huge debts because of transfers not even up to 30 percent of total revenues. Check Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Juventus. These clubs have more debt than Utd and they don’t even spend.

Of course, they don’t spend. Neymar and Countinho were free transfers for Barca. Florentino Perez kidnapped Bale and James Rodriguez without paying a penny.

nitrogen:

Real Madrid have spent just 19 percent of total revenues in the last 8 years on transfers, this is significantly lower than Utd’s spend (relatively).

There is no relationship here between not winning the league in 8 years and not spending, because we have spent more than enough.

Start from 2005(the year the Glazers bought United).

Stop posting fraudulent stats to suit your false narrative.

nitrogen:

Meanwhile, Chelsea, Liverpool and LCFC have won the league in the last 10 years, have they spent more than man utd in the same time?

Answer all my questions o!

Liverpool and Leicester are anomalies.

Liverpool gave Klopp 5 years to build and rebuild without any hint he could be sacked.

Klopp finished 8th, 4th, 4th, 2nd, 1st. Even Moyes would achieve this if given that much time to do it his way without the useless Woodward poking his nose.

Leicester were 500/1 to win the league in 2015/16.

Chelsea win titles because they don’t give excuses. There’s a reason they are the most successful team in England since 2005. They have hired 16 managers in that period.

Abramovic would have sacked Ole by now. He spends money and he demands instant success.

Roman is a hero!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:09pm On Feb 04, 2021
nitrogen:


This one is a confused oleouter o....

Na una camp

Tidy the matter quietly angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:09pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
Lol I wonder what you'd say of we signed Robertson from Relegated Hull, Wijnaldum from relegated Newcastle, Shaqiri from relegated Stoke, VVD and Mane from Southampton...
Abi...

Klopp signed those relegated stars, but according to him, they're signed to "address the weakness"

Surprising how people signed to address weakness come carry league and champions league in 2-3yrs
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:12pm On Feb 04, 2021
KingAlabi:

Patrick grin grin
He should be consistent, you can't blame Ole and at the same time blame the Glazers...If the Glazers have not signed players good enough to win the league, why blame Ole when he fails to win the leahue?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:13pm On Feb 04, 2021
Even jodera don join

Make una continue cool

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:15pm On Feb 04, 2021
Whether the Glazers have removed 10bn or more out of United, it doesn't count as long as they have invested just as much as every other team in that time frame...

And why is it about City? Why not Chelsea?

Why not Liverpool?

I think Leicester City spent 2bn to win the league...

It wouldn't be long before guys start taking you for a joke...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:15pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
He should be consistent, you can't blame Ole and at the same time blame the Glazers...If the Glazers have not signed players good enough to win the league, why blame Ole when he fails to win the leahue?
I no even get strength to read una lonng posts

My head dey bang from too much charts reading today


All in all
The guy dey confuse himself cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:17pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
He should be consistent, you can't blame Ole and at the same time blame the Glazers...If the Glazers have not signed players good enough to win the league, why blame Ole when he fails to win the leahue?
That’s my issue with him. There is no reason to sack Ole now, if the team is shi1t.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:17pm On Feb 04, 2021
KingAlabi:
Even jodera don join

Make una continue cool
Lol... This one strong na
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:18pm On Feb 04, 2021
Jodera:
As in... First time I'm hearing that.

A team that signed

Lukaku(had higher prospect than mane)
Shaw (had higher prospect than Robertson)
Pogba(had higher prospect than wijnaldum)
Sanchez (had higher prospect than salah)
Mkhi(had higher prospect than fabinho)

This whole list is embarrassing.

So Mane is a striker now?

Shaw has no prospect. He was 18 when United signed him from Southampton. He had injury and he’s been riding on the sympathy wave ever since.

Pogba is world class - United provided no support for him. They want him to play AM, CM, DM all on his own without water carriers for him.

Sanchez was 30 when United signed him. We might as well say Rio Ferdinand of today has a higher prospect than Van Dijk.

Jodera:

Only van dijk to Maguire will I even say Liverpool had higher prospect there.

Alisson is better than De Gea.

You have also conveniently forgotten that for many seasons, ex-wingers aged 33 were United’s fullbacks cos guess what, Woodward wouldn’t sign proper fullbacks to play there.

Nani left in 2014 and United haven’t signed an out and out right winger ever since. We are in 2021.

Of course, the Glazers have been fantastic. cheesy

Jodera:

That man u own didn't work out (due to poor or wrong managers) doesn't mean una no sign better players wey fit suppose carry league

It never worked because of bargain basement players in key positions.

Luke Shaw has 10 PL assists in 7 seasons(under 4 different managers) and it’s because of poor or wrong managers?

Are you auditioning for the role of a clown?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:19pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
He should be consistent, you can't blame Ole and at the same time blame the Glazers...If the Glazers have not signed players good enough to win the league, why blame Ole when he fails to win the leahue?

This is embarrassing.

So two things can’t be wrong at the same time. It has to be one or the other?

Father Lord, who are these people?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:21pm On Feb 04, 2021
nitrogen:

That’s my issue with him. There is no reason to sack Ole now, if the team is shi1t.
In one night, he has managed to trash the pts he raised when he debated Alabi...

I knew I'd box him when he kept dropping epistle forgetting that some of us are veterans here...

Baba said Ole could do with a top 4 finish in a bid to support his argument against the Glazers...

It therefore means Ole isn't a failure because he has achieved just that thus far...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:23pm On Feb 04, 2021
Illimitable:


This is embarrassing.

So two things can’t be wrong at the same time. It has to be one or the other?

Father Lord, who are these people?
You have taken two extreme positions such that there's no meeting point...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:23pm On Feb 04, 2021
Shaw had no prospect? grin

No support for Pogba grin grin.. Like dude do you know how many people have been brought in to unlock Pogba?

Make I dey watch as you dey type shit.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:25pm On Feb 04, 2021
In your argument against Ole, you refused to entertain other factors that might have affected his performance and tonight, just before ai brought Ole up, you argued as if it was all down to the Glazers and now, in a bid to find soft landing you want me to accept the both parties are at fault?

Go and apologize to Alabi and afterwards, Nitroge.n...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:26pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
You have taken two extreme positions such that there's no meeting point...


Even if the Glazers sign the right players, there’s no guarantee Ole would win with them.

However, the problem is already compounded with the fact that the Glazers don’t sign the right players.

You want to win the league with a left back that has 10 assists in 7 seasons when Trent of Liverpool had 13 assists in one season.

SMH!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:28pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
In your argument against Ole, you refused to entertain other factors that might have affected his performance and tonight, just before ai brought Ole up, you argued as if it was all down to the Glazers and now, in a bid to find soft landing you want me to accept the both parties are at fault?

Go and apologize to Alabi and afterwards, Nitroge.n...

It’s like you have wax in your ears.

With a defence unit of Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young, Jose won 3 trophies - under the same owners.

With a much improved defence unit of Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof and Shaw, Ole can’t even win a semifinal tie and you are opining Ole isn’t at fault?

Get a drug test done immediately, someone close to you is doping your water or food.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:30pm On Feb 04, 2021
Illimitable:


This whole list is embarrassing.

So Mane is a striker now?

Shaw has no prospect. He was 18 when United signed him from Southampton. He had injury and he’s been riding on the sympathy wave ever since.

Pogba is world class - United provided no support for him. They want him to play AM, CM, DM all on his own without water carriers for him.

Sanchez was 30 when United signed him. We might as well say Rio Ferdinand of today has a higher prospect than Van Dijk.



Alisson is better than De Gea.

You have also conveniently forgotten that for many seasons, ex-wingers aged 33 were United’s fullbacks cos guess what, Woodward wouldn’t sign proper fullbacks to play there.

Nani left in 2014 and United haven’t signed an out and out right winger ever since. We are in 2021.

Of course, the Glazers have been fantastic. cheesy



It never worked because of bargain basement players in key positions.

Luke Shaw has 10 PL assists in 7 seasons(under 4 different managers) and it’s because of poor or wrong managers?

Are you auditioning for the role of a clown?
In one argument you blame the Glazers (management) for refusing to hire a director of football and in another you blame them for refusing to sign a winger...

Abeg, who signs the players? And upon whose request?

Are you saying Ed decided to sign a RB, LB, CB, CF, AMF, CM but deliberately refused to sign a winger? How about meeting the managers demands?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:30pm On Feb 04, 2021
Illimitable:


This whole list is embarrassing.

So Mane is a striker now?

Shaw has no prospect. He was 18 when United signed him from Southampton. He had injury and he’s been riding on the sympathy wave ever since.

Pogba is world class - United provided no support for him. They want him to play AM, CM, DM all on his own without water carriers for him.

Sanchez was 30 when United signed him. We might as well say Rio Ferdinand of today has a higher prospect than Van Dijk.



Alisson is better than De Gea.

You have also conveniently forgotten that for many seasons, ex-wingers aged 33 were United’s fullbacks cos guess what, Woodward wouldn’t sign proper fullbacks to play there.

Nani left in 2014 and United haven’t signed an out and out right winger. We are in 2021.

Of course, the Glazers have been fantastic. cheesy



It never worked because of bargain basement players in key positions.

Luke Shaw has 10 PL assists in 7 seasons(under 4 different managers) and it’s because of poor or wrong managers?

Are you auditioning for the role of a clown?
For your info, I'm not comparing striker for striker. It's just forward line comparisons.

Sanchez was still a great pl star when man u signed him. It doesn't change the fact he was presumably a bargain buy then.

Luke shaw was promising when he was at Southampton. He was more promising than Robertson at same age. And Shaw was class before his injury. If you've forgotten, I've not.

Shaw was bought for the full back position. He got a serious injury that's why man u reverted back to 33yr olds. Dalot was also bought for the full back role.

Also, why will man u buy an out and out winger, wen Rashford and martial was Manning that role those years. Also, someone will think a certain DI MARIA and DEPAY wasn't signed post saf. Lol
Or are di Maria and depay not "league-winning players"? grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:33pm On Feb 04, 2021
Illimitable:


It’s like you have wax in your ears.

With a defence unit of Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young, Jose won 3 trophies - under the same owners.

With a much improved defence unit of Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof and Shaw, Ole can’t even win a semifinal tie and you are opining Ole isn’t at fault?

Get a drug test done immediately, someone close to you is doping your water or food.
You're one proud fellow who thinks he knows a lot yet so empty...

So the improved defense you are yapping that Ole has at his disposal was assembled by who? Orji Uzor Kalu?

You want Ole to win with the defense yet the Glazers haven't signed title winning players...

Who do you this kind thing?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:35pm On Feb 04, 2021
handelex:
Shaw had no prospect? grin

No support for Pogba grin grin.. Like dude do you know how many people have been brought in to unlock Pogba?

Make I dey watch as you dey type shit.
grin grin grin.

Na just agenda.

Time go come wen same hand will say Shaw had prospect
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:36pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
You're one proud fellow who thinks he knows a lot yet so empty...

So the improved defense you are yapping that Ole has at his disposal was assembled by who? Orji Uzor Kalu?

You want Ole to win with the defense yet the Glazers haven't signed title winning players...

Who do you this kind thing?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:36pm On Feb 04, 2021
Jodera:
grin grin grin.

Na just agenda.

Time go come wen same hand will say Shaw had prospect
He mentioned Shaw among the improved defense Ole has had to work with...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 11:37pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
How much did we spend on Lukaku, Pogba, Maguire etc? With same amount, City will buy 6-7 players but no, they buy more players so we should blame the Glazers.
This is exactly the point he is missing..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:38pm On Feb 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
He mentioned Shaw among the improved defense Ole has had to work with...
grin grin.

Na small small e dey start
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:38pm On Feb 04, 2021
After yapping that ole is the worse manager in the premiere league

Una still dey waste una time cheesy cheesy

Handelex shift well this fence don dey tight angry

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