BascoVanVeli:


they do it to us here in Uyo all the time and the pitch is one the best in Nigeria
Brother u just don't understand NPFL time wasting. Your high press is all they need to fall and act like they have been shot. Sometimes they fall without contact. They will roll so much that even u will start believing somebody kicked them.

My problem is that the refs stop play for all injuries and FIFA said it only must be stopped for head injuries. Time wasting is a major problem that the league must deal with.

andrewbaba44:


As if you have ever admit you are ever wrong

Pot calling kettle black

You are the king of wack football analysis

BascoVanVeli:


Why wouldn't dumb speak for dumber it is only right that u are saying this

Odunayaw:
Time wasting has greatly reduced especially this season. Speaking from the matches I've seen this season.
Bringing back what you said earlier, truly we must invest in coaches. We being individual clubs They're professional clubs for god sake, the NFF shouldn't have to be spoon feeding them.

I have not even mentioned Sadiq, Onuachu and the lad who the comment was about.

Subzero047:


It seems you are blind or something, I responded to somebody's particular post that sparked an argument you are bringing up other posts that added or removed from what he said to invalidate the argument or what?

If you want to extend to other leagues I can oblige you, but read this post carefully and know our line of arguments

BascoVanVeli:


Belgium Do batshuayi and benteke have better numbers than Simy and Moffi right now?

BascoVanVeli:


U might not have seen it but it definitely is still here.

I didn't say to invest in coaches maybe it was Thegoodjoe and he could elaborate on that. I personally want clubs to do their homework and hire the best coaches. The recycling needs to stop. They need to take who they hire more seriously.

TheSuperNerd:
Elyte89, the lists you asked for.

The Strikers/Centre forwards-Depth (Quality+Quantity) of Various Nations with players all based in Europe.

Note: Players not based in Europe not counted. Example: Algeria's No.1 striker is not even based in Europe.

1. France:

Mbappe (PSG)
Griezmann (Barca)
Giroud (Chelsea)
Martial (Man Utd)
Ben Yedder (Monaco)
Marcus Thuram (Gladbach)
Lacazette (Arsenal)
Alessane Plea (Gladbach)
M.Dembele (Atletico Madrid)
Valere Germain (Marseille)
Jean Philippe-Mateta (Palace)
Ludovic Ajorque (Strasbourg)
Odsonne Edouard (Celtic)
Neal Maupay (Brighton)
Adrien Hunou (Rennes)
Serhou Guirassy (Rennes)

2. Spain:

Morata (Juventus)
Moreno (Villarreal)
Alcacer (Villarreal)
Aspas (Celta Vigo)
Rodrigo (Leeds)
Inaki Williams (Bilbao)
Santi Mina (Celta Vigo)
Loren slowpoke (Real Betis)
Rafa Mir (Huesca)
Mariano Diaz (Real Madrid)
Borja Mayoral (Roma)
Lucas Perez (Alaves)
Abel Ruiz (Sporting Braga)

3. Portugal:

CR7 (Juventus)* We all know he plays striker for Portugal most/some times now.
Andre Silva (Frankfurt)
Joao Felix (Atletico Madrid)
Rafael Leao (AC Milan)
Paulinho (Sporting Lisbon)
Lucas Joao (Reading)
Diogo Jota (Liverpool)
Fabio Silva (Wolves)



4. Brazil:

Firmino (Liverpool)
Gabby J (ManCity)
Richarlison (Everton)* plays 9 sometimes.
Willian Jose (Wolves)
Carlos Vinicius (Spurs)
Matheus Cunha (Hertha Berlin)
Joelinton (Newcastle)
Wesley (Villa)
Joao Pedro (Watford)
Evanilson (Porto)
Danilo (FC Twente)


5. England:

Kane (Spurs)
Rashford (Man Utd)
DCL (Everton)
Ings (Southampton)
Bamford (Leeds)
Tammy (Chelsea)
Che Adams (Southampton)
Ollie Watkins (Villa)
Callum Wilson (Newcastle)
Michail Antonio (West Ham)

*Vardy (Retired) (Leicester)


6. Argentina:

Aguero (Man City)
Lautaro Martinez (Inter)
Mauro Icardi (PSG)
Giovanni Simeone (Cagliari)
Dario Benedetto (Marseille)
Lucas Alario (Leverkusen)
Ezequiel Ponce (Spartak Moscow)
Adolfo Gaich (Benevento)
Jonathan Calleri (Cagliari)



7. Nigeria:

Victor Osimhen (Napoli)
Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester)
Ebere Paul Onuachu (KRC Genk)
Sadiq Umar (Almeria)
Terem Moffi (Lorient)
Emmanuel Dennis (FC Koln)
Taiwo Awoniyi (FC Union Berlin)
Josh Maja (Fulham)
Simy Nwankwo (Crotone)
Cyriel Dessers (KRC Genk)
David Okereke (Club Brugge)
Ike Ugbo (Cercle Brugge)



8. Belgium:

Lukaku (Inter Milan)
Mertens (Napoli)
Origi (Liverpool)
Batshuayi (Palace)
Benteke (Palace)
Lois Openda (Vitesse)
Landry Dimata (Espanyol)
Aaron Iseka Leya (Metz)
Laurent Depoitre (Gent)
Renaud Emond (Nantes)



9. Italy:

Ciro Immobile (Lazio)
Andrea Belotti (Torino)
Moise Kean (PSG)
Andrea Petagna (Napoli)
Patrick Cutrone (Valencia)
Francesco Caputo (Sassuolo)
Andrea Pinamonti (Inter Milan)
Manolo Gabbiadini (Sampdoria)
Sebastiano Esposito (Venezia)
Pietro Pellegri (Monaco)


10. Netherlands:

Memphis Depay (Lyon)
Luuk De Jong (Sevilla)
Wout Weghorst (Wolfsburg)
Sam Lammers (Atalanta)
Bas Dost (Club Brugge)
Joshua Zirkzee (Parma)
Donyell Malen (PSV)
Myron Boadu (AZ Alkmaar)
Brian Brobbey (Ajax)


11. Colombia:

Duvan Zapata (Atalanta)
Luis Muriel (Atalanta)
Jhon Cordoba (Hertha Berlin)
Alfredo Morelos (Glasgow Rangers)
Cucho Fernandez (Getafe)
Luis Suarez (Granada)
Falcao (Galatasaray)
Bacca (Villarreal)


12. Germany:

Timo Werner (Chelsea)
Kevin Volland (Monaco)
Mergim Berisha (RB Salzburg)
Davie Selke (Werder Bremen)
Daniel Ginczek (Wolfsburg)
Yousouffa Moukoko (Dortmund)


13. Norway:

Haaland (Dortmund)
Sorloth (RB Leipzig)
Frederik Gulbrandsen (Basaksehir)
Ohi Omoijuanfo (Molde FK)
Jorgen Larsen (FC Groningen)
Torgeir Borven (Ankaragucu)


14. Senegal:

Habib Diallo (Strasbourg)
Boulaye Dia (Reims)
Mbaye Niang (Rennes)
Ibrahima Niane (Metz)
Abdallah Sima (Slavia Prague)
Youssouf Badji (Club Brugge)
Mbaye Diagne (West Brom)
Moussa Konate (Dijon)
Famara Diedhiou (Bristol City)
Cherif Ndiaye (Goztepe)

15. Serbia:

Mitrovic (Fulham)
Vlahovic (Fiorentina)
Luka Jovic (Frankfurt).


16. USA:

Josh Sargent (Wolfsburg)
Timothy Weah (Lille)
Sebastian Soto (Norwich)
Matthew Hoppe (Schalke 04)




Some others:

- Mexico: Raul Jimenez (Wolves)

- Algeria: Boundejah (Qatar based), Slimani (Lyon), Delort (Montpellier), Belfodil (Hoffenheim)

- Denmark: Poulsen (RB Leipzig), Braithwaite (Barca), Dolberg (Nice), Zohore (West Brom), Jonas Wind (FC Copenhagen).

- Sweden: Alexander Isak (Sociedad), Larsen (Spartak Moscow), *Zlatan (AC Milan)








In conclusion, Nigeria definitely makes the Top 10 for strikers-depth. We even have far more depth in quality and quantity than Germany of all nations!

TheSuperNerd:
The fact you keep skipping this line...



.... Tells me that you obviously suffer both blindness and amnesia. The original comment that birthed it all didn't limit the Strikers-depth talk to the top 5 leagues. But ofcos keep playing dumb.

I'm done with you Zero.

BascoVanVeli:


Main argument - We have strikers in 4 out of 5 of Europe's top list.
England: KC
Germany: Awoniyi & Denis
France: Moffi
Italy: Osimhen and Simi

Footnote - I have not even mentioned Sadiq, Onuachu and the lad who the comment was about.

andrewbaba44:


Nice job ,you forgot roger marti for Spain thou

So na loren moronn dem turn to slow pok***

TheGoodJoe:


My point is a total change of our philosophy. If those in charge of the league can invest in running training programs for coaches to have better output with respect to style of play.

You can play good possession football on poor pitches, so investing in these is also Paramount. This will encourage those who play good brands of football to succeed.

People should remember that the NFF and co. get money for these. It is not spoon feeding but doing their jobs.

We can move forward to raise players at home that will compete with overseas counterparts if we don't rebrand the local league in manner of play. This will build the kind of environment we need to nurture quality talents.

chrisooblog:
when Amaju first got elected as NFF president he spoke about ensuring our referees get trained when in hindsight the focus should have been on coaches. Coaching like you rightly noted is the bedrock of any successful national team but what's even our playing philosophy? have we researched our physic, environment, resources etc to give us a cutting edge and make us competitive at the international stage? why is that we suddenly stopped producing technical number 10s? is it because of the league that goes for directness and physicality that such has been coached out of our budding players? These are the kind of stuff our NFF leadership and technical committee need to be having a honest conversation about.

It's not enough to hire some random oyibo to come and coach our national team when the said oyibo doesn't match our playing philosophy but do we even know what is our philosophy? Once we get the answer to that important question then we will know how to train our coaches from junior to senior level along that path. even when we hire oyibo as a stop gap measure we will use philosophy as a basis for employing you and not just the person's CV.

TheSuperNerd:
Transfer News

Abduljaleel Ajagun joins South African PSL side, Cape Town City FC.

Somebody tell Forgiveness to come outside. His Number 1 pick for the AM role has found a club.

elyte89:



Jihday o fumble... Quantity o! Quality o! We no dey top 20 for world

Shey na moffi ,kc and co wey no go smell jersey for some national team countries in Europe and s.America ,u dey count join as strikers.

Anyway it's good to blow ones trumpet.

Karlovic:
Even with quantity, they still are still not in the top tier category.

maidaboi:
The reality is that Kelechi is an extreme confidence player and
inconsistent. It is not just his goal-scoring, but his touch and effort.
When he is confident, the touches are silky, he picks passes like a
#10, and closes down/fights to hold up the ball really well. The
problem is that, when he is off-form, it is not only that he misses some
chances, but his touch gets bouncy, he becomes static, and doesn't
work for the team. Maybe he just needs to go to a club where he more
valued as a starter and just gets to play through troubles. At Leicester,
the second his confidence leaves him, the boy is dropped to the bench
and the cycle repeats.

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maidaboi:
The reality is that Kelechi is an extreme confidence player and
inconsistent. It is not just his goal-scoring, but his touch and effort.
When he is confident, the touches are silky, he picks passes like a
#10, and closes down/fights to hold up the ball really well. The
problem is that, when he is off-form, it is not only that he misses some
chances, but his touch gets bouncy, he becomes static, and doesn't
work for the team. Maybe he just needs to go to a club where he more
valued as a starter and just gets to play through troubles. At Leicester,
the second his confidence leaves him, the boy is dropped to the bench
and the cycle repeats.

Copied

chrisooblog:
when Amaju first got elected as NFF president he spoke about ensuring our referees get trained when in hindsight the focus should have been on coaches. Coaching like you rightly noted is the bedrock of any successful national team but what's even our playing philosophy? have we researched our physic, environment, resources etc to give us a cutting edge and make us competitive at the international stage? why is that we suddenly stopped producing technical number 10s? is it because of the league that goes for directness and physicality that such has been coached out of our budding players? These are the kind of stuff our NFF leadership and technical committee need to be having a honest conversation about.

It's not enough to hire some random oyibo to come and coach our national team when the said oyibo doesn't match our playing philosophy but do we even know what is our philosophy? Once we get the answer to that important question then we will know how to train our coaches from junior to senior level along that path. even when we hire oyibo as a stop gap measure we will use philosophy as a basis for employing you and not just the person's CV.

edi287:

Or he's simply not as good as many of us think...

TheSuperNerd:
News about Africa's No.1 Goalie, Andre Onana. 1 year doping ban. But it was accidental. Really hope he can win the appeal and get back to the pitch much sooner. 1 year out of the game is a long long time.

TheGoodJoe:


Fortunately he is. Pellegrini knows genuine talent when he sees one. He spotted Nacho, gave him a chance and he flourished.

That is no mistake.

Nacho's problem hasn't do with the huge earnings at Leicester City.

Look at Angelino going on loan and flourishing at Leipzig. If he was on bench at City, you will say he is not good.

Nacho needs to go on loan to an offensive side that is ready to give him a run of games in the loan deal. Then he will perform.

Unfortunately, a move like that will require a pay cut and he is not ready to take it.

TheSuperNerd:
Transfer News

Abduljaleel Ajagun joins South African PSL side, Cape Town City FC.

Somebody tell Forgiveness to come outside. His Number 1 pick for the AM role has found a club.

TheSuperNerd:
Elyte89, the lists you asked for.

The Strikers/Centre forwards-Depth (Quality+Quantity) of Various Nations with players all based in Europe.

Note: Players not based in Europe not counted. Example: Algeria's No.1 striker is not even based in Europe.

1. France:

Mbappe (PSG)
Griezmann (Barca)
Giroud (Chelsea)
Martial (Man Utd)
Ben Yedder (Monaco)
Marcus Thuram (Gladbach)
Lacazette (Arsenal)
Alessane Plea (Gladbach)
M.Dembele (Atletico Madrid)
Valere Germain (Marseille)
Jean Philippe-Mateta (Palace)
Ludovic Ajorque (Strasbourg)
Odsonne Edouard (Celtic)
Neal Maupay (Brighton)
Adrien Hunou (Rennes)
Serhou Guirassy (Rennes)

2. Spain:

Morata (Juventus)
Moreno (Villarreal)
Alcacer (Villarreal)
Aspas (Celta Vigo)
Rodrigo (Leeds)
Inaki Williams (Bilbao)
Santi Mina (Celta Vigo)
Loren slowpoke (Real Betis)
Rafa Mir (Huesca)
Mariano Diaz (Real Madrid)
Borja Mayoral (Roma)
Lucas Perez (Alaves)
Abel Ruiz (Sporting Braga)

3. Portugal:

CR7 (Juventus)* We all know he plays striker for Portugal most/some times now.
Andre Silva (Frankfurt)
Joao Felix (Atletico Madrid)
Rafael Leao (AC Milan)
Paulinho (Sporting Lisbon)
Lucas Joao (Reading)
Diogo Jota (Liverpool)
Fabio Silva (Wolves)



4. Brazil:

Firmino (Liverpool)
Gabby J (ManCity)
Richarlison (Everton)* plays 9 sometimes.
Willian Jose (Wolves)
Carlos Vinicius (Spurs)
Matheus Cunha (Hertha Berlin)
Joelinton (Newcastle)
Wesley (Villa)
Joao Pedro (Watford)
Evanilson (Porto)
Danilo (FC Twente)


5. England:

Kane (Spurs)
Rashford (Man Utd)
DCL (Everton)
Ings (Southampton)
Bamford (Leeds)
Tammy (Chelsea)
Che Adams (Southampton)
Ollie Watkins (Villa)
Callum Wilson (Newcastle)
Michail Antonio (West Ham)

*Vardy (Retired) (Leicester)


6. Argentina:

Aguero (Man City)
Lautaro Martinez (Inter)
Mauro Icardi (PSG)
Giovanni Simeone (Cagliari)
Dario Benedetto (Marseille)
Lucas Alario (Leverkusen)
Ezequiel Ponce (Spartak Moscow)
Adolfo Gaich (Benevento)
Jonathan Calleri (Cagliari)



7. Nigeria:

Victor Osimhen (Napoli)
Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester)
Ebere Paul Onuachu (KRC Genk)
Sadiq Umar (Almeria)
Terem Moffi (Lorient)
Emmanuel Dennis (FC Koln)
Taiwo Awoniyi (FC Union Berlin)
Josh Maja (Fulham)
Simy Nwankwo (Crotone)
Cyriel Dessers (KRC Genk)
David Okereke (Club Brugge)
Ike Ugbo (Cercle Brugge)



8. Belgium:

Lukaku (Inter Milan)
Mertens (Napoli)
Origi (Liverpool)
Batshuayi (Palace)
Benteke (Palace)
Lois Openda (Vitesse)
Landry Dimata (Espanyol)
Aaron Iseka Leya (Metz)
Laurent Depoitre (Gent)
Renaud Emond (Nantes)



9. Italy:

Ciro Immobile (Lazio)
Andrea Belotti (Torino)
Moise Kean (PSG)
Andrea Petagna (Napoli)
Patrick Cutrone (Valencia)
Francesco Caputo (Sassuolo)
Andrea Pinamonti (Inter Milan)
Manolo Gabbiadini (Sampdoria)
Sebastiano Esposito (Venezia)
Pietro Pellegri (Monaco)


10. Netherlands:

Memphis Depay (Lyon)
Luuk De Jong (Sevilla)
Wout Weghorst (Wolfsburg)
Sam Lammers (Atalanta)
Bas Dost (Club Brugge)
Joshua Zirkzee (Parma)
Donyell Malen (PSV)
Myron Boadu (AZ Alkmaar)
Brian Brobbey (Ajax)


11. Colombia:

Duvan Zapata (Atalanta)
Luis Muriel (Atalanta)
Jhon Cordoba (Hertha Berlin)
Alfredo Morelos (Glasgow Rangers)
Cucho Fernandez (Getafe)
Luis Suarez (Granada)
Falcao (Galatasaray)
Bacca (Villarreal)


12. Germany:

Timo Werner (Chelsea)
Kevin Volland (Monaco)
Mergim Berisha (RB Salzburg)
Davie Selke (Werder Bremen)
Daniel Ginczek (Wolfsburg)
Yousouffa Moukoko (Dortmund)


13. Norway:

Haaland (Dortmund)
Sorloth (RB Leipzig)
Frederik Gulbrandsen (Basaksehir)
Ohi Omoijuanfo (Molde FK)
Jorgen Larsen (FC Groningen)
Torgeir Borven (Ankaragucu)


14. Senegal:

Habib Diallo (Strasbourg)
Boulaye Dia (Reims)
Mbaye Niang (Rennes)
Ibrahima Niane (Metz)
Abdallah Sima (Slavia Prague)
Youssouf Badji (Club Brugge)
Mbaye Diagne (West Brom)
Moussa Konate (Dijon)
Famara Diedhiou (Bristol City)
Cherif Ndiaye (Goztepe)

15. Serbia:

Mitrovic (Fulham)
Vlahovic (Fiorentina)
Luka Jovic (Frankfurt).


16. USA:

Josh Sargent (Wolfsburg)
Timothy Weah (Lille)
Sebastian Soto (Norwich)
Matthew Hoppe (Schalke 04)




Some others:

- Mexico: Raul Jimenez (Wolves)

- Algeria: Boundejah (Qatar based), Slimani (Lyon), Delort (Montpellier), Belfodil (Hoffenheim)

- Denmark: Poulsen (RB Leipzig), Braithwaite (Barca), Dolberg (Nice), Zohore (West Brom), Jonas Wind (FC Copenhagen).

- Sweden: Alexander Isak (Sociedad), Larsen (Spartak Moscow), *Zlatan (AC Milan)








In conclusion, Nigeria definitely makes the Top 10 for strikers-depth. We even have far more depth in quality and quantity than Germany of all nations!

AndSunGorilla:


I really feel for him, I hope the ban is reversed. I mean a goalie doesn't exert as much energy as outfield players on a normal day so why would he need performance enhancers in my opinion. The 1 year too much now, na cocaine he take? Btw, is he actually Africa's #1 or Mendy? And I no understand why Cameroon decided not to forgive Onana for turning down afcon at some point and made his cousin Fabrice Ondoa the #1 for their national team.

TheSuperNerd:
Meanwhile... From Morocco

OFFICIAL AND CONFIRMED!

Munir El Haddadi has been made eligible by FIFA to represent the Moroccan national team, almost seven years after making his Spain debut. Set to make his first appearance as an Atlas Lion next month in the AFCON 2021 qualifiers.

Morocco have finally gotten their man.

Looks like they were able to bypass that little blip in the new rule that would have still stopped Munir from fulfilling his Moroccan International dream.

edi287:

Nacho is not an elite talent. Talented but certainly not as much as he was hyped up to be.
Don't know why this should still be an argument in 2021...

edi287:

Nacho is not an elite talent. Talented but certainly not as much as he was hyped up to be.
Don't know why this should still be an argument in 2021...