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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 8:28am On Feb 11, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Brazilians have never rated Copa. They often send undermanned teams for the competition. For e.g Pele played for Brazil for 14yrs and in that period he attended only 1 Copa and did not go for 4. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 8:47am On Feb 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Na you quote me when I give you one question now you go run away. According to squawka T.silva was found wanting which means he was no where to be found when the goal was scored and gave him a rating of 7 out of 10. But Kehrer was massively culpable for the goal which means he is the culprit or cause of the goal and gave him rating of 4. So on this basis we cannot say T.silva is the one that cause the goal a dent in his defensive duty that day but he is not the cause of that goals as you want us to believe. What about squawka rating J. Terry as the best defender in EPL history? Egbon not your rating but your reliable squawka rating. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:49am On Feb 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter: The same Copa America is now useless because Thiago Silva won it. Na masquerade dem suppose use chase you out of Texas. 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:53am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Trevor012: Easy. Ings Grealish Sancho Foden Mount Between Foden and Grealish, I don't need another AM (Madison) hence went for Mount who can also work CM. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 8:55am On Feb 11, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Yeah. But Copa is a continental tournament. Whether Brazil rate it or not doesnt make it less relevant. For example British teams dont rate Olympics. Its not an easy tournament to win. Just like saying AFCON is useless because Nigeria dont rate it. Especially as Abacha ordered super Eagles to boycott the 1996 tournament because of his rift with Mandela and also did not enter the 1998 tournament. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 8:59am On Feb 11, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Apples and oranges though. It is not that British teams don’t rate the Olympics but that they really can’t go for the Olympics. There is no British National Team. You have teams for England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland. Unfortunately England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland are not members of the I.O.C, U.K is. And i am just hearing for the first time that Nigerians don’t rate AFCON. When did this happen? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 9:05am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Ibime: You are correct I chose Maddison because of his form, but I think Mount will be better for versatility. If am Southgate. I will play 3-5-2. Pope; Stone, Maguire, AWB; TAA, Chilwell/Shaw, Rice, Henderson, Grealish, Rashford, Kane. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:09am On Feb 11, 2021 |
CapitalCee: The major reason Mount is getting mentioned is because this is a Shekpite thread. There is no position in which Mount is not 3rd or 4th choice. His versatility is not needed. A fit Maddison gets ahead of him at CAM, as will Grealish and Foden. At RW Sterling, Sancho, Foden, Rashford are ahead. At LW Sterling, Rashford, Grealish, Sancho are ahead. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 9:10am On Feb 11, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Nigeria do rate AFCON very highly. My point is that if a single nation decides to not care about a tournament doesn't make it less relevant. I am aware of the home nations' membership issue of IOC, but British people dont rate Olympics tournaments in general. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:11am On Feb 11, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Olympic football or Olympic sports? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 9:15am On Feb 11, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Honestly I personally dont rate Mount no biases. I just felt they will be overloaded at AM position. But it will be criminal to leave out Maddison, the guys form now is on Bruno/KDB level. Doc if you are Southgate who will you start in tge first match assuming everybody is fit 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 9:16am On Feb 11, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Football |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:27am On Feb 11, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Why would you rate or be interested in a tournament that your country never qualifies for? You have never been emotionally involved, your father never watched, your grandfather never watched? It all stems from lack of participation due to the Home Nations’ issue. I get your point about relevance and interest though, however the unstable history of the COPA shows it is not at the level of the Euros for instance. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:31am On Feb 11, 2021 |
The other three players are Kovacic, Jorginho and N’Golo Kante. That means it’s not easy for Billy to find his place, but he’s the no.4 right now in my head and to be the no.4 for two positions is a pretty good start for Billy.” - Thomas Tuchel 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:52am On Feb 11, 2021 |
CapitalCee: GK: Henderson or Pope. Pickford is too erratic and jumpy. RB: TAA. His creativity might be key especially for a team that is often one dimensional in attack. On a short leash though and to be replaced if a defensive liability. LB: Shaw or Chilwell to fight it out in camp. CBs: Maguire and Stones. Makes no difference, they are all pretty useless anyway. CDM: Rice OR Henderson RAM: Maddison LAM: Foden LW: Rashford RW: Sterling CF: Kane A 4-3-3 with 2 attacking midfielders will allow for more creativity and flexibility of play which is the major problem England suffers repeatedly in tournaments i.e one dimensional play. However i suspect Southgate will be cautious and rather use a double pivot of Rice and Henderson thereby stifling their creativity. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 10:26am On Feb 11, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Yeah I will start the same formation if I am playing 4-3-3 and with Foden and Maddison there is enough creativity. Although i think Southgate is not that adventurous and wont go gong ho, so might want to replicate his World Cup formation, 3-5-2 especially with the defensive liability of the likes of TAA. May be I see AWB or Walker joining Maguire and Stones at the CB to free TAA/Trippier/Shaw/Chilwell. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 10:33am On Feb 11, 2021 |
raumdeuter:The group stage, 2nd round and quarters were not crucial right? Manchester United are out of the UCL because people didn't do their job in the group stage. If we had progress, someone will come here are say the 2nd r8und is crucial...Who defines which match is crucial and using what metric? All football matches are important unless the trophy is already won... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawgg: 10:40am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Sincerely, wahala be like Dayo 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 10:43am On Feb 11, 2021 |
patrickmuf:What a terrible example. All big teams are expected to come out of the group stage. The knock stage is where the main competition starts. Your team dropping out of the group stage shows failure. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 10:49am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Capaldi:You're very funny...If someone doesn't score the goals or prevent the goals from going in, how do you make it out of the group stage? Please put your thinking cap on before you quote me... How do you praise a player for his performance in the semis and finals forgetting the competition started with the group stage then the 2nd round and then the quarters... It's like praising player A for his performance in the semi and finals of a competition and saying his team mate, player B was rubbish because he didn't supply the goods in the 'crucial' games (semi and final) even when he scored in the group stage games to help the team progress and not stopping, did same in the 2nd round and quarters...Are you just going to discard the performance of player B because according to your failed logic the group stage, 2nd round and quarters are not crucial? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 10:56am On Feb 11, 2021 |
patrickmuf:You are just beating around the bush with many words. The group stage is a formality for all top teams in major competition. Germany/Spain/Madrid/Barca getting knocked out in the group stage is a failure similarly no one will praised them for leaving the group stage. Performances in the knockout stages of any competition is the koko. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibunkun1(m): 10:58am On Feb 11, 2021 |
airmark: , this thtead na cruise 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:01am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Capaldi:So failure in the group stage is tied to the whole team but success in the semis and finals should be tied to a particular player...E be things... 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:05am On Feb 11, 2021 |
patrickmuf:I called out your example of using United failure to leave the group stage. I don't know where you are adding things from. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:07am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Somebody actually believes performances in the group stage and knock stage in a cup competition are equal. It can only be ment. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:16am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Capaldi:United is a practical example...If United had made it out of the group stage with Rashford scoring goals and then get past the 2nd round and quarters with Rashford again delivering the goods, will you now say Martial was the most important player for Man Utd if he scores in the semis and final? My point is that you can't undermine the performance of a player in the group stage, 2nd round and quarters because you think they're not crucial...If they're not crucial, will you make it to the next round in you fail in any of those stages? Abeg who fit help me explain to this bros? I am tired abeg. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:16am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Capaldi:Na you dey ment and you dey ment big time. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:20am On Feb 11, 2021 |
patrickmuf:You just keep typing long sentences up and down with little substance. Performance in the knockout stage will always outweighs that of the group stages. United crashing out of the group stage is like I said a failure and a poor example to use. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:21am On Feb 11, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Did I mention you? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:21am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Capaldi:k 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:24am On Feb 11, 2021 |
patrickmuf:K 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 11:39am On Feb 11, 2021 |
Wahala dey o. Patickmuf you dey vex these days o. |
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