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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:08am On Feb 13, 2021
n3xt:


Update:

His claim that there’s ethnic clash ongoing in Ojo area is true. Here the link to confirm this https://www.nairaland.com/6413005/hausa-yoruba-clash-ibaban-one

He has left the site now to attend to another client who's job requires urgent attention but the work is ongoing.
It is in the news, I saw it on Channels TV where one person died

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 9:15am On Feb 13, 2021
Enyinne:
I will share my opinion even if u dont agree . God knows i wont cross road with your type as impatient and name calling comes easy to as ABC . I hv run a logistics company and still manage a supply chain . I know the challenges . U cant label someone a fraudster without tangible proofs. 48hrs to rushed off to ur Name calling. If u don't trust the process , dont make a deal . Now you hv succeeded in Labeling him a Fraudster and having ur roofing sheet , what happens to the irreparable damage u have done against his Name ??

I completely understand your point of view..

Not to defend anyone here but do I fault a client whose millions is on the line, not hearing from a contractor for hrs?

How long is a piece of string?

The bottom line is please communicate with your clients, this is probably a logistics issue with the contractor having no intention to defraud the client but with the no communication, everything else happening around us, it might appear so

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:23am On Feb 13, 2021
n3xt:


Update:

The client has just confirmed to me that he’s on the site and the goods has been delivered and work ongoing.

the client should also drop an update na

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 9:29am On Feb 13, 2021
Enyinne:
I will share my opinion even if u dont agree . God knows i wont cross road with your type as impatient and name calling comes easy to as ABC . I hv run a logistics company and still manage a supply chain . I know the challenges . U cant label someone a fraudster without tangible proofs. 48hrs to rushed off to ur Name calling. If u don't trust the process , dont make a deal . Now you hv succeeded in Labeling him a Fraudster and having ur roofing sheet , what happens to the irreparable damage u have done against his Name ??

Madam, that's you opinion but you know a for a fact that the client didn't first break the deal.

Client said supplier promised to deliver in 24hrs, 48hrs later supplier has not even communicated the client with any update. We all understand encumbrances and that they always happen. Even if the supplier lost his phone, he should've known the urgency in which he needs to communicate since he is in a middle of a deal and the table is on him, his reputation is also at stake but the supplier clearly failed.

I have lost several business opportunities just because I refused to promise the client his expected timeline. Everytime I did that the client got himself into problems.

The supplier failed even if he later delivered

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:31am On Feb 13, 2021
This is what I detest on this thread.

Those who label others as fraudsters hardly come back to update the thread when things actually turn out to be false.

He suddenly disappeared after discovering what he said concerning the contractor is false.

It's well o.

Within 24hrs of transaction, someone is already a fraudster. Not like the site location is at the backyard of the contractor.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:36am On Feb 13, 2021
twinskenny:
the client should also drop an update na

This isn’t over yet until the client issue an IMMEDIATE RETRACTION of the libelous allegation and an express and unambiguous APOLOGY on this thread, nairaland and kobocity with the same or greater prominence, circulation and distribution.

The said malicious and libelous allegation was deliberately and repeatedly published and circulated by the client with the full knowledge and/or awareness of its consequences and implications on the feeling, integrity, character, office, business, status and reputation of @mountmoriah.

This unfounded and malicious allegation also violates sections 391 to 395 of the Penal Code Act as well as section 24 of the Cybercrimes Act.

We will protect the interest of both parties.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:58am On Feb 13, 2021
adanny01:


Madam, that's you opinion but you know a for a fact that the client didn't first break the deal.

Client said supplier promised to deliver in 24hrs, 48hrs later supplier has not even communicated the client with any update. We all understand encumbrances and that they always happen. Even if the supplier lost his phone, he should've known the urgency in which he needs to communicate since he is in a middle of a deal and the table is on him, his reputation is also at stake but the supplier clearly failed.

I have lost several business opportunities just because I refused to promise the client his expected timeline. Everytime I did that the client got himself into problems.

The supplier failed even if he later delivered

Where did you read that version that he hasn’t been in touch with the client after 48 hours?

Do you think he could have flew to Iwo road when we took over the matter last night?

I agree there was communication lapse which we are going to help our verified suppliers/contractors/owner builders work on but does that make him deserve the tag “Fraudster and Scammer.”

He wasn’t a scammer when he delivered woods to the site without payment but he was one because he couldn’t deliver within 48 hours.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 10:14am On Feb 13, 2021
Exactly. He has suddenly disappeared and no more in a haste to come and update the house on the delivery. I will maintain that 48hrs is too haste a decision to label someone a fraudster.
somehow:
This is what I detest on this thread.

Those who label others as fraudsters hardly come back to update the thread when things actually turn out to be false.

He suddenly disappeared after discovering what he said concerning the contractor is false.

It's well o.

Within 24hrs of transaction, someone is already a fraudster. Not like the site location is at the backyard of the contractor.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 10:27am On Feb 13, 2021
somehow:
This is what I detest on this thread.

Those who label others as fraudsters hardly come back to update the thread when things actually turn out to be false.

He suddenly disappeared after discovering what he said concerning the contractor is false.

It's well o.

Within 24hrs of transaction, someone is already a fraudster. Not like the site location is at the backyard of the contractor.

Very good point of view.

But a fraudster would need even less than 24hrs to do their damage. I heard a story of a contractor that was leaving the country to husssle, he was even at the airport when he accepted a deposit for a job he knew he will not complete.. things dey happen..

We haven't heard from the contractor to ascertain what happened, his own side of the story.

But if the client was on ground, spoke to the contractor about 10 am, and having knowledge of the fracas around the area, he should have been reasonable since he knew e dey hot for area.

But n3xt have been in communication with the contractor, that means he was somewhat reachable even with the fracas.. did he send a text to the client? Facebook etc.

I will await until both sides are debriefed.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cribking1(m): 10:30am On Feb 13, 2021
Good morning all,

I want to thank everyone who has helped in solving this issue. Special thanks to Kobocity for his swift response and professionalism . Mountmoriah has delivered the roofing materials and installers are currently installing them. I was very nervous because of my previous Fraud experience on this platform. Also, the gap of communication he created exacerbated the whole situation. Sure, there was sinister motive behind his silence but thank God I acted fast. My advice to anyone dealing with contractors on this platform or anywhere else is to be on your toes....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:35am On Feb 13, 2021
Cribking1:
Good morning all,

I want to thank everyone who has helped in solving this issue. Special thanks to Kobocity for his swift response and professionalism . Mountmoriah has delivered the roofing materials and installers are currently installing them. I was very nervous because of my previous Fraud experience on this platform. Also, the gap of communication he created exacerbated the whole situation. Sure, there was sinister motive behind his silence but thank God I acted fast. My advice to anyone dealing with contractors on this platform or anywhere else is to be on your toes....

You’re the best baba!

I go come greet you one day grin grin

Let’s not forget to clean up the thread. Thanks baba!


We will do more to protect the interest of every kobocitizens.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 10:40am On Feb 13, 2021
Cribking1:
Good morning all,

I want to thank everyone who has helped in solving this issue. Special thanks to Kobocity for his swift response and professionalism . Mountmoriah has delivered the roofing materials and installers are currently installing them. I was very nervous because of my previous Fraud experience on this platform. Also, the gap of communication he created exacerbated the whole situation. Sure, there was sinister motive behind his silence but thank God I acted fast. My advice to anyone dealing with contractors on this platform or anywhere else is to be on your toes....
Noted but pls try to put down that post
You can mail the Mod to Assist with that..
Becos internet Don't forget

Wish you best of luck

We No Go Jam Agbako
God No Go shame Us

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 10:41am On Feb 13, 2021
Cribking1:
Good morning all,

I want to thank everyone who has helped in solving this issue. Special thanks to Kobocity for his swift response and professionalism . Mountmoriah has delivered the roofing materials and installers are currently installing them. I was very nervous because of my previous Fraud experience on this platform. Also, the gap of communication he created exacerbated the whole situation. Sure, there was sinister motive behind his silence but thank God I acted fast. My advice to anyone dealing with contractors on this platform or anywhere else is to be on your toes....

Hang on a minute.. not so fast.

Did you know about the fracas in the area?

Did the contractor inform you on the difficulty getting to your site because of the fracas?

You said in a previous post that you had a communication with him by 10am?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:44am On Feb 13, 2021
Badgers14:


Hang on a minute.. not so fast.

Did you know about the fracas in the area?

Did the contractor inform you on the difficulty getting to your site because of the fracas?

You said in a previous post that you had a communication with him by 10am?

Baba, we’re done.

The contractor got to know about the fracas after the case was reported around 11pm so it couldn’t have been the cause of the delay.

Let’s move on sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 10:53am On Feb 13, 2021
n3xt:


Baba, we’re done.

The contractor got to know about the fracas after the case was reported around 11pm so it couldn’t have been the cause of the delay.

Let’s move on sir.

Ok, as long as everyone is happy at last. We move cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:53am On Feb 13, 2021
Badgers14:


Very good point of view.

But a fraudster would need even less than 24hrs to do their damage. I heard a story of a contractor that was leaving the country to husssle, he was even at the airport when he accepted a deposit for a job he knew he will not complete.. things dey happen..

We haven't heard from the contractor to ascertain what happened, his own side of the story.

But if the client was on ground, spoke to the contractor about 10 am, and having knowledge of the fracas around the area, he should have been reasonable since he knew e dey hot for area.

But n3xt have been in communication with the contractor, that means he was somewhat reachable even with the fracas.. did he send a text to the client? Facebook etc.

I will await until both sides are debriefed.
Don't be surprised to read that the contractor contacted the client but the client decided to leave out this fact.

Trust ehh
What a commodity!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 11:03am On Feb 13, 2021
somehow:
Don't be surprised to read that the contractor contacted the client but the client decided to leave out this fact.

It wouldn't shock me grin I tried to get to the bottom of it but n3xt say let's move on.

I move not because I don't have mb or my battery is low, this is weekend and I do have time for Yada Yada, back and forth posting grin but admire his tenacity and effort to fix this issue.
I would have preferred this all happened in kobocity not here in nairaland. He deserved the accolades.

The lawyer guy on nairaland might show up in 2030 threatening a lawsuit grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:03am On Feb 13, 2021
somehow:
Don't be surprised to read that the contractor contacted the client but the client decided to leave out this fact.

At the point where there’s breach of trust, I doubt the client will accept anything that come from the contractor as truth.

The client asked me to act on the issue and feedback.

Even at moment, the client is not ready to clear anything until the installation is done and he can confirm if the material supplied is the original one.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:23am On Feb 13, 2021
Badgers14:


I move not because I don't have mb or my battery is low, this is weekend and I do have time for Yada Yada, back and forth posting grin but admire his tenacity and effort to fix this issue.
I would have preferred this all happened in kobocity not here in nairaland. He deserved the accolades.


Moving forward, I got this from the kobocity team on suppliers verification. What do you think about this move?

Yay or Nay?

The team suggested that verified suppliers must include an upload of bank verified and stamped BVN (except if the larger community objects to this) in the document submitted to us for verification.

The team also suggested that for transparency, we should require anyone verified to create a thread on kobocity and gives updates on all transactions gotten through the platform, while not revealing private information of clients.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 12:20pm On Feb 13, 2021
n3xt:


Moving forward, I got this from the kobocity team on suppliers verification. What do you think about this move?

Yay or Nay?




I am on the fence on the BVN issue.

But on the other one, yes contractor should create a thread and update for transparency.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kiekie1(m): 12:31pm On Feb 13, 2021
WE BUY DEAD/SCRAP BATTERIES!!!

We also buy off scrap/dead deep cycle batteries from any state to Lagos(T&C applies) .

12v 200a ..... N16,000
12v 150a.......N12,000
12v 100a.......N8,000
2v 500a.......N5,500

If outside Lagos state , send the scrap batteries to your nearby Lagos park & get your payment alert immediately after confirmatory remarks from me with the transport company manager / secretary or driver .

Contact,
Smartcell global services
CALL:: 081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 12:51pm On Feb 13, 2021
Cribking1:
Good morning all,

I want to thank everyone who has helped in solving this issue. Special thanks to Kobocity for his swift response and professionalism . Mountmoriah has delivered the roofing materials and installers are currently installing them. I was very nervous because of my previous Fraud experience on this platform. Also, the gap of communication he created exacerbated the whole situation. Sure, there was sinister motive behind his silence but thank God I acted fast. My advice to anyone dealing with contractors on this platform or anywhere else is to be on your toes....

Thank God for safe delivery

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by zuraking(m): 12:56pm On Feb 13, 2021
kiekie1:
WE BUY DEAD/SCRAP BATTERIES!!!

We also buy off scrap/dead deep cycle batteries from any state to Lagos(T&C applies) .

12v 200a ..... N16,000
12v 150a.......N12,000
12v 100a.......N8,000
2v 500a.......N5,500

If outside Lagos state , send the scrap batteries to your nearby Lagos park & get your payment alert immediately after confirmatory remarks from me with the transport company manager / secretary or driver .

Contact,
Smartcell global services
CALL:: 081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620
your are beginning to spam this thread and you will be reported if you persist.

You can create thread and make your AD there and update it constantly. Stop spamming this thread please.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 1:00pm On Feb 13, 2021
kiekie1:


Hello, pls google goes a long way to self educate yourself most times so it won't look as if you're lagging or speaking off-point .
The said Netherlands inverter product is durable & actively sold by said company your mentioned as seen in snapshot below ! I never said this was outrightly the best forum for advert but those interested will definitely reach out privately as it doesn't affect your discussions in anyway to be candid .. We've prospects calling from same forum and making backdoor transacts ! If interested, apply same positive energy to reach me ... Cheer's

https://prag.global/product-category/inverters/cyber-power-inverter/

Pragmatic Technologies is not Netherlands but rather a wholly Nigerian company that makes its products in China. If I recall correctly, they started as buyright in 2012. Nothing to be ashamed of about China, afterall iphones are made in the same China.

That you saw the product on the site does not invalidate my assertion. The website might be out of date or it might be old stock or the usual. Reasons are that:

First, a lot of Nigerian websites are lousy at product updates. It is when you place an order, that you get the out of stock feedback.

Second, our merchants have a very bad habit of trying to pass off open box items as brand new. (It was the main reason I stopped using konga)

Third, sometimes, it may just be that the merchants still have very very old stock. Example, you can still find those old yellow firman generators for sale as new. I even bet I can get brand new iphone-6S on jumia and konga. Furthermore, am guessing you did not know that some companies like LG intentionally ship phased out stuff to Nigerian market.

Anyway, the issue is not worth chasing. I still have about 5 of those model that prag waybilled back to me after I refused their offer to trade in for the new range. I re-porposed transformer coil windings of some of them because truelly they were rugged.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by zuraking(m): 1:00pm On Feb 13, 2021
Cribking1:
Good morning all,

I want to thank everyone who has helped in solving this issue. Special thanks to Kobocity for his swift response and professionalism . Mountmoriah has delivered the roofing materials and installers are currently installing them. I was very nervous because of my previous Fraud experience on this platform. Also, the gap of communication he created exacerbated the whole situation. Sure, there was sinister motive behind his silence but thank God I acted fast. My advice to anyone dealing with contractors on this platform or anywhere else is to be on your toes....
online business is not for the WEAK and that's the new trend. So you better man off and face it or don't just do it to avoid being a cry cry baby like this case(take your money to store and buy it yourself)

His fault was communication and nothing more. Lot of people here move millions to anonymous people they have never met and they get it done and also handle delays and complaints maturely without stepping toes in Nigeria.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 1:10pm On Feb 13, 2021
n3xt:


Moving forward, I got this from the kobocity team on suppliers verification. What do you think about this move?

Yay or Nay?




Oga well done. I like the spirit in keeping the community "safe". Nice job. Contractors and clients must be protected.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 1:21pm On Feb 13, 2021
zuraking:
something like this without color hardener

Nabiz, please explain the idea behind this colour hardner mentioned by Zuraking. Does this job shown here has colour hardner?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:28pm On Feb 13, 2021
Focusmind:


Nabiz, please explain the idea behind this colour hardner mentioned by Zuraking. Does this job shown here has colour hardner?
I think it does
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kiekie1(m): 1:41pm On Feb 13, 2021
44chux:


Pragmatic Technologies is not Netherlands but rather a wholly Nigerian company that makes its products in China. If I recall correctly, they started as buyright in 2012. Nothing to be ashamed of about China, afterall iphones are made in the same China.

That you saw the product on the site does not invalidate my assertion. The website might be out of date or it might be old stock or the usual. Reasons are that:

First, a lot of Nigerian websites are lousy at product updates. It is when you place an order, that you get the out of stock feedback.

Second, our merchants have a very bad habit of trying to pass off open box items as brand new. (It was the main reason I stopped using konga)

Third, sometimes, it may just be that the merchants still have very very old stock. Example, you can still find those old yellow firman generators for sale as new. I even bet I can get brand new iphone-6S on jumia and konga. Furthermore, am guessing you did not know that some companies like LG intentionally ship phased out stuff to Nigerian market.

Anyway, the issue is not worth chasing. I still have about 5 of those model that prag waybilled back to me after I refused their offer to trade in for the new range. I re-porposed transformer coil windings of some of them because truelly they were rugged.

Ok let's quit chasing clouts over faily used product sales as we aint kids tho ! See nameplate below & also note, prag website isn't outdated .. Save yourself the energy by viewing popular product nameplate in snapshot below .. .
Cyberpower history differs from current prag products .. We also have popular Phocos inverters with German roots but produced in China. Nevertheless nobody condemned or ruled out China in product nameplate .. Nobody asked nor seeked for why you use konga nor prefer jumia bla bla bla tales as it's basically turning feminine of you tho ! This is a public fora, try apply deliberate effort in more research regarding a said product before bastardizing or applying vague/ xyz assumptions in your write-up...
Take a chill pill > Come share a bottle of wine with me to celebrate Valentine's weekend ! smiley

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kiekie1(m): 1:51pm On Feb 13, 2021
zuraking:
your are beginning to spam this thread and you will be reported if you persist.

You can create thread and make your AD there and update it constantly. Stop spamming this thread please.

How ? Kindly Define "Spam" ? You've no whatsoever right to type such here neither are you a mod in this thread from page one ! Topic states discuss anything "building" under property section which also entails electrification at a point ... My posts comes sparingly most times for those keenly interested !

Respect yourself to be accorded respect in return since you ain't a mod or are we newbies here . Cheers
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MIKEMIENTERPRIS: 2:04pm On Feb 13, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sgtponzihater1(m): 2:15pm On Feb 13, 2021
Enyinne:
I will share my opinion even if u dont agree . God knows i wont cross road with your type as impatient and name calling comes easy to as ABC . I hv run a logistics company and still manage a supply chain . I know the challenges . U cant label someone a fraudster without tangible proofs. 48hrs to rushed off to ur Name calling. If u don't trust the process , dont make a deal . Now you hv succeeded in Labeling him a Fraudster and having ur roofing sheet , what happens to the irreparable damage u have done against his Name ??

I totally agree with this. Nigerians are largely impatient people, and I wonder how we can change. I remember coming in for a job from Lagos to Delta driving on the high way. I informed them that I was on my way and should probably get there in the evening hopely as I left in the morning.

Got stopped by police severally. And on a particular occasion kept close to Benin for 2 hrs. I told them there were delays, and there was already mistrust. I couldn't keep picking calls on a dangerous high way with bad roads. I got to Warri at 8pm tired and worne out, and couldn't proceed to Ethiope East again. Sent a text that I would make it tomorrow as it was already dark. I got a nasty text thereafter, that I was not serious and all allegations.

Got there next day, while they tried to form smiling and make up for their impatience, their unsavoury words had already strained our relationship, and I never attempted to prolong my contract with them for a day more despite them asking.

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