Quran 4:82

Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.


Ok Allah, Please Tell Us How You Created Man?



“We Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,” (96:2).


“We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape, (15:26).


“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,” (3:59).


“But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?” (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Oh Allah these are many inconsistencies you have given us in the quran

If you created man from a Sperm Drop then whose sperm did you use for this?

If you created man from nothing what happened to the raw material like sperm and clay which you used?

If you created Jesus from mere dust and told him be and he was how come you say Allah is the best creator, when Jesus also created life from clay?


If you created man from congealed blood where did you get this blood from?


If you created man from clay (dust), this is realistic because there must have been raw material of clay abudant on the earth Yaweh created

Oh Allah, kufirs are laughing their socks off already

Please give a Muslim on nairaland the intellectual capacity to engage in this pondering questions

Laughing…

Perhaps now that school has resumed. Maybe after attending to 5 or 6 lectures.. Your common senses will be back.

All your answers are in those words you quoted

NeoWanZaeed:
Laughing…

Perhaps now that school has resumed. Maybe after attending to 5 or 6 lectures.. Your common senses will be back.

All your answers are in those words you quoted

look who we have, abdulzaWEED the kufir awarder


Instead of been a laughing jackass can you be brave enough to help Allah clarify his contradictions

Alhamdulillah for the beautiful light of Islam. We ask Allah never to let us die except in the deen of Haneef!

I don't see any contradiction on this thread and Alhamdulillah, even a sane person would understand. Adam was created from earth matter. His wife was created from him. And everyone else was created from Nutfah ( a mixture of male and female sexual fluids) except Jesus who had no father.

You can't just pick verses that suits a narrative and create doubt here. We understand the Qu'ran better.

Allah created Adam from clay, and he passed through different stages. He stayed like this, for as long as Allah willed; thereafter Allah breathed into him the soul which He created for him.

Allah says: And (remember) when your Rabb said to the angels: ‘I am going to create a man [Adam] from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. So, when I have fashioned him completely and breathed into him [Adam] the soul which I created for him, then fall (you) down prostrating yourselves unto him.’ So, the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together. Except Iblees [Satan] - he refused to be among those who prostrated. [15:28-31]

Mankind thereafter procreated from a weak water-like substance (sperm). Allah says: Who made everything He has created good, and He began the creation of man from clay. * Then He made his offspring from semen of worthless water [male and female sexual discharge]. * Then He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him the soul (created by Allah for him), and He gave you hearing [ears], sight [eyes] and hearts. Little is the thanks you give! [32:7-9]

He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness. [39:6]

Stages Humans Pass Through
1 The first stage "Nutfah": A drop of mixed fluid which results from the mixing of male and female fluids.

Allah says: And that He [Allah] creates the pairs, male and female. From Nutfah [drops of semen, male and female discharges] when it is emitted. [53:45-6] If Allah wills, the sperm would mix with the female's fluids and penetrate the ovary; the sperm and the female fluid upon mixing is called 'Nutfah', and is the first stage of human development. If it does not penetrate the ovary, the sperm would die. Allah says: Verily, We have created man from a nutfah drops of mixed semen [fluids of man and woman] in order to try him, so We made him to hear and to see. [76:2]

In this stage it starts taking some human attributes.

Allah says: Be cursed (the disbelieving) man! How ungrateful he is! From what thing did He create him? From Nutfah [male and female semen drops] He created him and then set him in due proportion. [80:17-9]

2) The ‘Alaqah stage. It is called an ‘alaqah (leach-like clot of coagulated blood) due to the fact that it attaches itself to the wall of the uterus and takes it nourishment from its blood. This is similar to a leach which also takes nourishment from other creatures to which it attaches itself to.

Allah says: Read! In the Name of your Rabb, Who has created (all that exists), * has created man from a clot [a piece of thick coagulated blood]. [96:1-2]

Allah also says: Was he not a Nutfah [mixed male and female discharge of semen] poured forth? * Then he became an ‘Alaqa [a clot]; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned (him) in due proportion. * And made him in two sexes, male and female. [75:36-8]

3) The Mudghah stage: It is called a mudghah (lump of flesh) due to the fact that in this stage it looks like a chewed piece of flesh.

Allah says: We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones. [23:14]

In this stage, the fetus starts to take the shape of a human until it reaches its true human form.

Allah says: Truly, nothing is hidden from Allah, in the earth or in the heavens. * He it is Who shapes you in the wombs as He pleases. [3:5-6]

In this stage, the spirit is also blown into the fetus.

Allah says: Then He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him the soul (created by Allah for that person) and He gave you hearing [ears] sight [eyes] and hearts. [32:9]

What is actually funny Mr Abdul up there, is that you are adding passages here and there to create a scientific digest for Allah (in your own elaboration)

But same Allah was a terrible scientist when he said the sun sets in Muddy waters.

Quran 18:86

Pickthall: Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.

Now back to the topic, i have no problem with the Evolutionary stages of man, it doesn't take a genius even at Mohamed time to have known that their fluid from the men (sperm) was meeting with the discharge from women to form babies.

However the issue is the FIRST MAN

Which is what you have failed to answer, when Allah was talking about creation of Man he was speaking about the first Man Adam.

If he was referring to his offspring as an evolutionary stage he would state it in reference to the evolutionary narrative like he did below

Then He made his offspring from semen of worthless water [male and female sexual discharge]. * Then He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him the soul (created by Allah for him), and He gave you hearing [ears], sight [eyes] and hearts. Little is the thanks you give! [32:7-9]

While you don't dismiss these as Allah statements your argument is that it is an evolutionary state which allah was referring to.

As you can see that argument is a contradiction because the evolutionary stages only apply to Adam's offspring not Adam himself.



Which goes back to the question



Where is God getting the sperm upon which he uses to create Adam (The First Man)?




“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Well Quran contradicts you, it says Adam was created from sperm too upon which his offspring inherited the sperm



“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

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Mikecold:
Well Quran contradicts you, it says Adam was created from nutfah too upon which he became distributor of sperm



“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Can you please kindly tell us how Jesus created man..from Adam to eve and to present day man with proof from your Bible..

haekymbahdx:
Can you please kindly tell us how Jesus created man..from Adam to eve and to present day man with proof from your Bible..

You have not answered this topic, your brother is disgracing himself.

Can you help him first because we have looked at the context and content and they don't agree.

I won't be the one to cover Muslims shame by diverting from the topic

So only you said Adam was created from earth without nutfah (sperm)

And only you said Adam was created from stages with sperm as one of them (why don't you tell us where the sperm came from, forget the egg that contradict your fallacy)

AntiChristian:
He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness. [39:6]

Stages Humans Pass Through
1 The first stage "Nutfah": A drop of mixed fluid which results from the mixing of male and female fluids.

Liar. Nutfah (نُطْفة ) means semen and not a mixture of male and female fluids. Stop lying for Allah.
Also, the male sperm fertilizes the female egg which is called buyayda (بُوَيْضة ) in Arabic, so Allah and the authors of the Quran goofed big-time

Allah says: And that He [Allah] creates the pairs, male and female. From Nutfah [drops of semen, male and female discharges] when it is emitted. [53:45-6] If Allah wills, the sperm would mix with the female's fluids and penetrate the ovary; the sperm and the female fluid upon mixing is called 'Nutfah', and is the first stage of human development. If it does not penetrate the ovary, the sperm would die. Allah says: Verily, We have created man from a nutfah drops of mixed semen [fluids of man and woman] in order to try him, so We made him to hear and to see. [76:2]

Liar. Nutfah (نُطْفة ) means semen and not a mixture of male and female fluids. Stop lying for Allah.
Also, the male sperm fertilizes the female egg which is called buyayda (بُوَيْضة ) in Arabic, so Allah and the authors of the Quran goofed big-time

Allah says: Read! In the Name of your Rabb, Who has created (all that exists), * has created man from a clot [a piece of thick coagulated blood]. [96:1-2]

Allah is wrong here, neither sperm or egg is a coagulated blood

Allah also says: Was he not a Nutfah [mixed male and female discharge of semen] poured forth? * Then he became an ‘Alaqa [a clot]; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned (him) in due proportion. * And made him in two sexes, male and female. [75:36-8]

Allah is also wrong where, science has told us that the gender of a child is determined during the time of fertilization of the egg by either x or y sperm.

So Allah doesn't ascribe sexes to babies after they have become flesh. Allah is a liar, science has proven Allah wrong

advocatejare:


Liar. Nutfah (نُطْفة ) means semen and not a mixture of male and female fluids. Stop lying for Allah.
Also, the male sperm fertilizes the female egg which is called buyayda (بُوَيْضة ) in Arabic, so Allah and the authors of the Quran goofed big-time


Liar. Nutfah (نُطْفة ) means semen and not a mixture of male and female fluids. Stop lying for Allah.
Also, the male sperm fertilizes the female egg which is called buyayda (بُوَيْضة ) in Arabic, so Allah and the authors of the Quran goofed big-time




Allah is wrong here, neither sperm or egg is a coagulated blood



Allah is also wrong where, science has told us that the gender of a child is determined during the time of fertilization of the egg by either x or y sperm.

So Allah doesn't ascribe sexes to babies after they have become flesh. Allah is a liar, science has proven Allah wrong

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advocatejare:


Liar. Nutfah (نُطْفة ) means semen and not a mixture of male and female fluids. Stop lying for Allah.
Also, the male sperm fertilizes the female egg which is called buyayda (بُوَيْضة ) in Arabic, so Allah and the authors of the Quran goofed big-time

Allah will never goof! Only humans and Science will keep goofing. And they will keep reviewing their hypothesis and modify previous theories!

In Qur'an 23:14 Allah says what means:

12. And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).
13. Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge) (and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).
14. Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators.

1. Nutfah is defined here as the product that is lodged in a safe place (womb of the woman). This is the zygote formed from the mixture of male and female sex cell.

Allah is wrong here, neither sperm or egg is a coagulated blood

The word used here is "Alaqah" Which may mean 1. Leach-like substance 2. Blood clots. Hence some translators use either of these or both.

Both meanings of ‘Alaqah (clot) are correct. According to Al-Mu'jam Al-Waseet:
Al-‘Alaq (clots): black worms that absorb blood in stagnant water; if an animal drinks them, they stick inside its mouth. The singular form ‘Alaqah (clot)... and (another meaning is) the thick or coagulated blood. Allaah says (what means): {He Created man from a clinging substance [a clot –a piece of thick coagulated blood]} [Quran 96:3]

In the First World Conference on Scientific Miracles in the Quran and Sunnah, in a Research entitled “Embryology in the Light of the Quran and Sunnah”, the following was mentioned: "The word ‘Alaqah (clot) is derived from the verb (‘Alaqa) which means sticking and clinging to something. The ‘Alaqah is a worm in water; it sucks blood and lives in ponds; it feeds on the blood of animals that it clings to; the plural is ‘Alaq..... The Alaq (clot) is blood in general which is very red, or thick or coagulated. Most interpreters of the Quran referred to this. In addition, the clot refers to moist blood, and this process takes more than a week until the primitive sperm sticks to the placenta by a conductive stem which subsequently becomes the umbilical cord. During the process of fertilization, the sperm loses its shape to prepare itself to take a new form which is the ‘Alaqah (clot), which begins by the fetus clinging to the placenta. The Quran described this clinging with the word ‘Alaqah. This is consistent with the meaning (clinging to something) which is one of the meanings of the word “clot”.
On the other hand, if we take the literal meaning of ‘Alaqah (clinging worm), we find that the fetus loses its round shape and elongates until it takes the form of the worm, then it starts feeding on the blood of the mother, in the same way that the clinging worm (leech) does, as it feeds on the blood of other organisms. The fetus is totally surrounded by a mucus fluid, just as the leech is surrounded by water. The Quranic word ‘Alaqah shows this meaning clearly according to the appearance and features of the embryo at this stage. According to the meaning "coagulated or thick blood" for the word ‘Alaqah, we find that the external appearance of the fetus and its membranes resemble thick coagulated blood because the initial heart, placenta bag and the cardiovascular veins appear at this stage. The blood is trapped in the blood vessels even if the blood is liquid [not coagulated]; the blood does not begin its circulation until the end of the third week. In this way, the fetus takes the appearance of thick or coagulated blood while it is not coagulated blood, and the aforementioned features fall under the two mentioned meanings of ‘Alaqah: “coagulated blood” or “non-coagulated blood”." [End quote]

Allah is also wrong where, science has told us that the gender of a child is determined during the time of fertilization of the egg by either x or y sperm.

So Allah doesn't ascribe sexes to babies after they have become flesh. Allah is a liar, science has proven Allah wrong

It's makes sense to ask for the interpretation or clarification of what you don't understand. Your brain is limited and what you are yet to understand far exceeds what you know. And once again you are the one misinterpreting the stated verse! Allah

Does the zygote have human features? It is at the last stage that the sex organs start developing!

...then (Allah) shaped and fashioned (him) in due proportion. * And made him in two sexes, male and female. [75:36-8]
And this is after the first two processes.

Bring what is similar to these or better from your Bible.

Mikecold:
So only you said Adam was created from earth without nutfah (sperm)

And only you said Adam was created from stages with sperm as one of them (why don't you tell us where the sperm came from, forget the egg that contradict your fallacy)

Sorry I forgot to spoon-feed you like a kid.

Adam (the first man) was made from earth, the earth passing through different stages.

Other Men were made from Nutfah (Seminal fluids), the Nuffah too passing through stages!

I never said Adam was made from sperm. This is from your negative pre-conceived thought!

Mikecold:
Well Quran contradicts you, it says Adam was created from sperm too upon which his offspring inherited the sperm



“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Adam was created from earth!

Qur'an 23:12-13
And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).

Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge) (and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).

Mikecold:
Oh Allah these are many inconsistencies you have given us in the quran

If you created man from a Sperm Drop then whose sperm did you use for this?

If you created man from nothing what happened to the raw material like sperm and clay which you used?

If you created Jesus from mere dust and told him be and he was how come you say Allah is the best creator, when Jesus also created life from clay?


If you created man from congealed blood where did you get this blood from?


If you created man from clay (dust), this is realistic because there must have been raw material of clay abudant on the earth Yaweh created

Even an intelligent SS3 Science Student will be able to reconcile this. But a Christian with the Holy Spirit never understands anything!

AntiChristian:


Sorry I forgot to spoon-feed you like a kid.

Adam (the first man) was made from earth, the earth passing through different stages.

Other Men were made from Nutfah (Seminal fluids), the Nuffah too passing through stages!

I never said Adam was made from sperm. This is from your negative pre-conceived thought!

Can you say who Allah is referring to here?

And don't tell me it's Adam off spring because when Allah wants to address Adam offspring he says it explicitly like below

He made his offspring from semen of worthless water [male and female sexual discharge]. * Then He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him the soul (created by Allah for him), and He gave you hearing [ears], sight [eyes] and hearts. Little is the thanks you give! [32:7-9]

When he says man he refers to first man

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

mind you i don't quote directly because I don't want this to be too bulky unnecessary to read

AntiChristian:


Allah will never goof! Only humans and Science will keep goofing. And they will keep reviewing their hypothesis and modify previous theories!

Allah knows nothing, everything Allah says makes no sense

1. Nutfah is defined here as the product that is lodged in a safe place (womb of the woman). This is the zygote formed from the mixture of male and female sex cell.

Nutfah means semen. Allah didn't even know that female egg exists. Allah never mentioned female eggs.

Allah told us rubbish, that semen turns into a baby when deposited in the womb

In the First World Conference on Scientific Miracles in the Quran and Sunnah, in a Research entitled “Embryology in the Light of the Quran and Sunnah”, the following was mentioned: "The word ‘Alaqah (clot) is derived from the verb (‘Alaqa) which means sticking and clinging to something. The ‘Alaqah is a worm in water; it sucks blood and lives in ponds; it feeds on the blood of animals that it clings to; the plural is ‘Alaq..... The Alaq (clot) is blood in general which is very red, or thick or coagulated. Most interpreters of the Quran referred to this. In addition, the clot refers to moist blood, and this process takes more than a week until the primitive sperm sticks to the placenta by a conductive stem which subsequently becomes the umbilical cord. During the process of fertilization, the sperm loses its shape to prepare itself to take a new form which is the ‘Alaqah (clot), which begins by the fetus clinging to the placenta. The Quran described this clinging with the word ‘Alaqah. This is consistent with the meaning (clinging to something) which is one of the meanings of the word “clot”.

The sperm doesn't become clot.

Allah goof again.

It's makes sense to ask for the interpretation or clarification of what you don't understand. Your brain is limited and what you are yet to understand far exceeds what you know. And once again you are the one misinterpreting the stated verse! Allah

Allah says Qur'an is clear enough, Allah never mentioned the female egg. Allah's biology is that semen transform into babies

Does the zygote have human features? It is at the last stage that the sex organs start developing!

The sex of a child is determined during fertilization but the ignorant Allah does not know

Also more, Antichristian come and see how your Allah and Qur'an goofed and plagiarized

"In Sura 86:6,7 we read:

He is created from a gushing fluid that issued from between the loins and ribs

In this verse, semen is apparently coming out of the area around the kidneys and back, which is a real problem for we now know that the testicles are the site of sperm production. Muslims maintain that this verse is indicating the embryological development of the testicles in the renal area before their subsequent descent into the scrotum. However, the verse states that it is the fluid rather than its organ of production that comes from this area. A delve into Greek literature reveals some interesting clues as to the origin of this idea.


The Greek physician Hippocrates taught in the fifth century BC that semen comes from all the fluid in the body, diffusing from the brain into the spinal marrow, before passing through the kidneys and testicles into the penis. This teaching was well-known in Muhammad's day, and may well explain why the Qur'an contains such an erroneous statement.

Sura 23:13-14 states that God places us 'as a drop (of seed) (nutfah) in a safe lodging; then fashioned from the drop a clot (alaqa), then fashioned from the clot a little lump (mugdah), then fashioned from the little clot bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it as another creature'. 75:38 also says man becomes an alaqa and 96:2 says we came from alaq. We have to ask what the precise meaning of these words is in order to know whether or not the verses contain important scientific statements as Moore and others have claimed.

The use of nutfah elsewhere (e.g. 16:4, 18:37, 23:13, 35:11, 53:46, 75:37, 76:2, 80:19) makes it clear that it refers to semen.

It is harder to understand what alaqa means, and many different suggestions have been made: clot, small lump of blood, leech-like clot, and 'leech, suspended thing or blood clot' (Moore, op cit). The most widely accepted translation of alaqa is 'clot', but this is impossible, since there is no stage at which the embryo consists of a clot.


Moore claims that it means 'leech', and goes on to argue that a 24-day old embryo resembles a leech in its appearance. In a hadith (or Muslim tradition), however, Muhammad claimed that the alaqa referred to the embryo between days 40 and 80.

The third stage, mugdah means a morsel of flesh, and according to Muhammad refers to the embryo between days 80 and 120, when the embryo is actually much bigger than a bite-sized peice of flesh!

In fact the account of the different stages in embryology as described by the Qur'an is virtually identical to that taught by Galen, writing in Turkey around 150 A.D, who taught that the embryo developed in four stages.


The first is an unformed white conceptus like semen, the second a bloody vascularised foetus, the third when other features are mapped out but not fully formed, and the fourth when all the organs are well formed and joints freely moveable. Either the author of the Qur'an knew this when writing the Qur'an, or else he was describing the clot which appears when a woman is having a miscarriage. Since we know that Muhammad had at least nine wives this is entirely possible, but it does mean that the alaqa is not the stage of embryological development that some would have us believe.

Much of the embryology in the Qur'an and Hadith can be traced directly back to the ancient Greeks.

For example there is a hadith in which Muhammad says 'If a male's fluid prevails upon the female's substance, the child will be a male by Allah's decree, and when the substance of the female prevails upon the substance contributed by the male, a female child is formed.'Muslims claim that this refers to X and Y chromosomes which determine the sex of an infant. A far more likely suggestion is that this is simply a reflection of the incorrect belief of Hippocrates that both men and women produce both male and female sperm, and the resulting sex of the child is determined by which sex's sperm overwhelms the other in strength or quantity.

It is one thing for the ancient Greeks to be teaching all this, but how do we know that the material was familiar to the Arabs of Muhammad's day? Ali at-Tabari's 'Paradise of Wisdom',[6] written in about 850 AD, says that he was following the rules set down by Hippocrates and Aristotle when he wrote his treatise. The intelligentsia of Muhammad's time were very familiar both with Greek and Indian medicine. Indeed, a major work on the history of embryology which is cited in the references in The Developing Human devotes over 60 pages to ancient Greek embryology and less than one page to Arabic embryology, concluding that the Qur'an is merely 'a seventh-century echo of Aristotle'. It is hardly surprising that the Islamic version of Prof Moore's book is not listed on the British Library catalogue and cannot be found in medical school libraries either in Britain or the US.


In conclusion then, there is not a single statement contained in the Qur'an relating to modern embryology that is not either scientifically incorrect or which was well known through direct observation by the ancient Greek physicians many centuries before the Qur'an was written. Far from proving the alleged divine credentials of the Qur'an, its embryological statements actually provide evidence for its human origins.


https://www.cmf.org.uk/resources/publications/content/?context=article&id=585

Mikecold:
Can you say who Allah is referring to here?

And don't tell me it's Adam off spring because when Allah wants to address Adam offspring he says it explicitly like below

He made his offspring from semen of worthless water [male and female sexual discharge]. * Then He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him the soul (created by Allah for him), and He gave you hearing [ears], sight [eyes] and hearts. Little is the thanks you give! [32:7-9]

When he says man he refers to first man

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

mind you i don't quote directly because I don't want this to be too bulky unnecessary to read

Why should I keep repeating myself? Man could either mean Adam or his offspring depending or other meaning depending on the context!

advocatejare:
Also more, Antichristian come and see how your Allah and Qur'an goofed and plagiarized

"In Sura 86:6,7 we read:

He is created from a gushing fluid that issued from between the loins and ribs

In this verse, semen is apparently coming out of the area around the kidneys and back, which is a real problem for we now know that the testicles are the site of sperm production. Muslims maintain that this verse is indicating the embryological development of the testicles in the renal area before their subsequent descent into the scrotum. However, the verse states that it is the fluid rather than its organ of production that comes from this area. A delve into Greek literature reveals some interesting clues as to the origin of this idea.


The Greek physician Hippocrates taught in the fifth century BC that semen comes from all the fluid in the body, diffusing from the brain into the spinal marrow, before passing through the kidneys and testicles into the penis. This teaching was well-known in Muhammad's day, and may well explain why the Qur'an contains such an erroneous statement.





In fact the account of the different stages in embryology as described by the Qur'an is virtually identical to that taught by Galen, writing in Turkey around 150 A.D, who taught that the embryo developed in four stages.


The first is an unformed white conceptus like semen, the second a bloody vascularised foetus, the third when other features are mapped out but not fully formed, and the fourth when all the organs are well formed and joints freely moveable. Either the author of the Qur'an knew this when writing the Qur'an, or else he was describing the clot which appears when a woman is having a miscarriage. Since we know that Muhammad had at least nine wives this is entirely possible, but it does mean that the alaqa is not the stage of embryological development that some would have us believe.

Much of the embryology in the Qur'an and Hadith can be traced directly back to the ancient Greeks.



It is one thing for the ancient Greeks to be teaching all this, but how do we know that the material was familiar to the Arabs of Muhammad's day? Ali at-Tabari's 'Paradise of Wisdom',[6] written in about 850 AD, says that he was following the rules set down by Hippocrates and Aristotle when he wrote his treatise. The intelligentsia of Muhammad's time were very familiar both with Greek and Indian medicine. Indeed, a major work on the history of embryology which is cited in the references in The Developing Human devotes over 60 pages to ancient Greek embryology and less than one page to Arabic embryology, concluding that the Qur'an is merely 'a seventh-century echo of Aristotle'. It is hardly surprising that the Islamic version of Prof Moore's book is not listed on the British Library catalogue and cannot be found in medical school libraries either in Britain or the US.


In conclusion then, there is not a single statement contained in the Qur'an relating to modern embryology that is not either scientifically incorrect or which was well known through direct observation by the ancient Greek physicians many centuries before the Qur'an was written. Far from proving the alleged divine credentials of the Qur'an, its embryological statements actually provide evidence for its human origins.


https://www.cmf.org.uk/resources/publications/content/?context=article&id=585

Before you said Muhammad copied the Bible. Later, you claimed he copied pagan worship. Now your claim is that he copied the Greek! Continue Goofing and ranting! I dey busy!

AntiChristian:


Why should I keep repeating myself? Man could either mean Adam or his offspring depending or other meaning depending on the context!

Yes man is Adam here, remember Adam disputed allah too, that's why he was kicked off the garden in the first place

Allah created Adam from sperm

AntiChristian:


Before you said Muhammad copied the Bible. Later, you claimed he copied pagan worship. Now your claim is that he copied the Greek! Continue Goofing and ranting! I dey busy!

Muhammad copied everyone, you didn't remember to add Zoroastrians, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Poet, Greek mythology, Jewish mythology, retained the pagan practices of the Meccans

advocatejare:

Muhammad copied everyone, you didn't remember to add Zoroastrians, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Poet, Greek mythology, Jewish mythology, retained the pagan practices of the Meccans

Yes, like he was Superman! An unlettered man could not have copied all those you claim in 23 yrs!

May the liars perish o jare!

Mikecold:
Yes man is Adam here, remember Adam disputed allah too, that's why he was kicked off the garden in the first place

Allah created Adam from sperm

Tired of foolishness bra!

AntiChristian:


Yes, like he was Superman! An unlettered man could not have copied all those you claim in 23 yrs!

May the liars perish o jare!

He had scribes who were copying from him

He had informants like Jabr and the rest.

The Quran wasn't compiled until about 20 Years after Mmuhammad had died. So that makes a total of 43 years which was enough to plagiarise from any book, culture and the likes

AntiChristian:


Tired of foolishness bra!

Abdul your Quran

AntiChristian:


Yes, like he was Superman! An unlettered man could not have copied all those you claim in 23 yrs!

May the liars perish o jare!

Muhammed was a lettered man stop lying. I thought we have treated this topic here.

Please advocatejare remind me and antichristian also that Muhammed could read and write.