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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:31pm On Feb 14, 2021
n3xt:


I thought longspan are used by those who are not rich like us grin


You this man ehn? grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:32pm On Feb 14, 2021
n3xt:
Flat Roof + Skylight over Atrium in an upcoming proposed development.

The contemporary flat roofs look very simple but costs more to build than traditional roof designs when done right.

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Pic 1 - Proposed Development
Pic 2 - Roof Plan (Mechanical Drawing)
Pic 3 - Atrium Skylight
Pic 4 - The Atrium (make una help me beg my client who wan use atrium plant vegetable grin. Indoor Vertical Garden comes to mind though).

I wouldn’t mind tutoring under you for this roof design. My next build has something similar and I still can’t figure it out.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:35pm On Feb 14, 2021
adesegun121:

0.35mm that mean the installers did very good work
Although i don't supply such guage due to the thickness
Too light for me but lot of clients request for it
I just look away if you can't purchase 0.45mm is better you make use of slate i don't want wahala or maintenence

This is a prime example of what I’ve been saying to artisans on here for ages.

Yah all shouldn’t take all jobs that you come across. Weigh the job based on your company profile.

Well done.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 7:42pm On Feb 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


This is a prime example of what I’ve been saying to artisans on here for ages.

Yah all shouldn’t take all jobs that you come across. Weigh the job based on your company profile.

Well done.

Thanks so much oga egunmogaji
God no go shame Us
Some clients will not said they request for such guage when the problem come up..
Reason why i don't even bother to sell or supply such guage becos my integrity is paramount to me ooo

We no go jam Agbako oo

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:48pm On Feb 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


You this man ehn? grin

Baba, we no say you no get money na grin grin
For here e be like say wahala dey for person wey no dey follow trend.

For me, I kukuma stay for my level by chosing functionality over form.
I decided to stay with zero-maintenance longspan roofing sheet jeje as seen on the most beautiful australian modern bungalows.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:56pm On Feb 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


I wouldn’t mind tutoring under you for this roof design. My next build has something similar and I still can’t figure it out.

grin grin

That project is in my prayer request. I’m tired of sharing 1847 builds grin grin

I’d be happy to show all the details including the structural and mechanical design details. The toughest part of the roof design is selection of materials. Glass won’t work but polycarbonate sheets.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:59pm On Feb 14, 2021
KolaShangOne:


Only God dey save us o.. Imagine driving into a town and you don't know there's crisis.

Easy meat.

I don't even go past south-west, south-east and south-south states these days..

You should see me today.

I drove from Ibadan to Ijebu Ode for my monthly association meeting.

At New Garage I asked the agberos at New Garage how far with peace in Ijebu? Did same at Mamu and Oru.

Pessin wey no get mama no dey get wound for back grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:00pm On Feb 14, 2021
n3xt:


grin grin

That project is in my prayer request. I’m tired of sharing 1847 builds grin grin

I’d be happy to show all the details including the structural and mechanical design details. The toughest part of the roof design is selection of materials. Glass won’t work but polycarbonate sheets.


I want to see an actual build to see how the water is collected. I’ve studied the theory.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:01pm On Feb 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


You should see me today.

I drove from Ibadan to Ijebu Ode for my monthly association meeting.

At New Garage I asked the agberos at New Garage how far with peace in Ijebu? Did same at Mamu and Oru.

Pessin wey no get mama no dey get wound for back grin


grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 8:50pm On Feb 14, 2021
Focusmind:


Nabiz, please explain the idea behind this colour hardner mentioned by Zuraking. Does this job shown here has colour hardner?
There are two types of colour in Nigeria for stamped concrete floor.(Increte)

(1)locally mixed colour: this is the use of ordinary interlocking pigment mixed with either ordinary brown cement or white cemen to achieve color hardner. Some people will also mix it with sand or marble dust. The reason they add cement or white cement to the pigment is to harden the surface of the job. This method is an imitation to an original imported colour hardner. If you a novice some people will even package them in a paint bucket with sticker to look like original.

(2)Original imported colour: this particular type of colour is originally produced and tested for for stamped concrete purposes. You don't need to mix it with anything. It comes with many colours options.

Advantage of original colour. Unlike local pigment, original colour hardner can cure and harden itself when come in contact with water but ordinary pigment does not hardner itself, but use water from cement to harden itself, which may cause pilling off. With local pigment, it may be difficult to get a uniform colour. If you don't use local pigment it will have a hair line surface crack especially if the polish on time. Original colour hardner is not just a colorant it also cures the surface of the job.

For more information about local and original, you can call me for more explanation because there many this I don't know how to explain.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 8:51pm On Feb 14, 2021
zuraking:
this particular picture is with color hardener. It looks beautiful with the full package wink
There are two types of colour in Nigeria for stamped concrete floor.(Increte)

(1)locally mixed colour: this is the use of ordinary interlocking pigment mixed with either ordinary brown cement or white cemen to achieve color hardner. Some people will also mix it with sand or marble dust. The reason they add cement or white cement to the pigment is to harden the surface of the job. This method is an imitation to an original imported colour hardner. If you a novice some people will even package them in a paint bucket with sticker to look like original.

(2)Original imported colour: this particular type of colour is originally produced and tested for for stamped concrete purposes. You don't need to mix it with anything. It comes with many colours options.

Advantage of original colour. Unlike local pigment, original colour hardner can cure and harden itself when come in contact with water but ordinary pigment does not hardner itself, but use water from cement to harden itself, which may cause pilling off. With local pigment, it may be difficult to get a uniform colour. If you don't use local pigment it will have a hair line surface crack especially if the polish on time. Original colour hardner is not just a colorant it also cures the surface of the job.

For more information about local and original, you can call me for more explanation because there many this I don't know how to explain.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 8:52pm On Feb 14, 2021
Focusmind:


Nabiz, please explain the idea behind this colour hardner mentioned by Zuraking. Does this job shown here has colour hardner?
There are two types of colour in Nigeria for stamped concrete floor.(Increte)

(1)locally mixed colour: this is the use of ordinary interlocking pigment mixed with either ordinary brown cement or white cemen to achieve color hardner. Some people will also mix it with sand or marble dust. The reason they add cement or white cement to the pigment is to harden the surface of the job. This method is an imitation to an original imported colour hardner. If you a novice some people will even package them in a paint bucket with sticker to look like original.

(2)Original imported colour: this particular type of colour is originally produced and tested for for stamped concrete purposes. You don't need to mix it with anything. It comes with many colours options.

Advantage of original colour. Unlike local pigment, original colour hardner can cure and harden itself when come in contact with water but ordinary pigment does not hardner itself, but use water from cement to harden itself, which may cause pilling off. With local pigment, it may be difficult to get a uniform colour. If you don't use local pigment it will have a hair line surface crack especially if the polish on time. Original colour hardner is not just a colorant it also cures the surface of the job.

For more information about local and original, you can call me for more explanation because there many this I don't know how to explain.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:03pm On Feb 14, 2021
adesegun121:


Thanks so much oga egunmogaji
God no go shame Us
Some clients will not said they request for such guage when the problem come up..
Reason why i don't even bother to sell or supply such guage becos my integrity is paramount to me ooo

We no go jam Agbako oo

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:32pm On Feb 14, 2021
n3xt:


Update:

Job completed. Roof installers have left the site. Awaiting final picture updates.

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Conflict is pretty much inevitable when we work with others.

When two people involved in a business transaction oversteps the mark of healthy difference of opinion, resolving conflict requires respect and patience - a clear sign of maturity.

As we grow, we must learn to control our emotions, perceptions, and actions whenever conflict arise. We must learn to deal with facts and avoid talking outside context as it allows conflict to build and fester, without being dealt with directly.

Lastly, it takes emotional maturity to prioritize the health of the relationship over the ego-feeding need to be right. cool

Many thanks to all the valuable contributors on this matter. Your difference makes a difference.

Together we can make Nigeria great again without unnecessary dramas, ban threat, assault... grin!

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Smart homeowners and suppliers who do not want headache use kobocity.com
In our constantly evolving world of work, everything is all about taking responsibility.



Update: Final pictures from @Cribking1 project site. Job done.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 9:37pm On Feb 14, 2021
n3xt:



I can understand oga money doesn't want to sell certain products...but one should maybe educate themselves more about that product and why they exist...0,35 ,0,40 etc...my small kobo kobo house i did two years ago I used 0,40 I bought from Pgn which is a subsidiary of TOWER ..during my IT days we did recommend 0,35, 0,40 and 0,45 roofing sheets for bungalows or duplex up to 25-30 feet...taking considerations with weather and locations..mostly in the east there are not too much adverse weather.you have to advice clients accordingly and guide their decisions properly...

Offcourse with your money you can buy 0,70mm if you want...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:44pm On Feb 14, 2021
dongc:


I can understand oga money doesn't want to sell certain products...but one should maybe educate themselves more about that product and why they exist...0,35 ,0,40 etc...my small kobo kobo house i did two years ago I used 0,40 I bought from Pgn which is a subsidiary of TOWER ..during my IT days we did recommend 0,35, 0,40 and 0,45 roofing sheets for bungalows or duplex up to 25-30 feet...taking considerations with weather and locations..mostly in the east there are not too much adverse weather.you have to advice clients accordingly and guide their decisions properly...

Offcourse with your money you can buy 0,70mm of you want...

You’re very correct!

Most people always start with the bolded above (buying the best money can buy). I always encourage homeowners to go with good enough whilst putting more resource on the roof carcassing and insulation where necessary. Those part of roof installation suffers the most.

Most people focus more on the covering than the carcass.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:47pm On Feb 14, 2021
RockOfAgesAlumi:


With installation
4 x 5=48k
4 x 4=40k
2 x 2=18k
2 1/2 x 7=40k
Thick imported materials
Casement window embedded burglary and net reflective blue glass
Thanks
where U at?anywhere near PH?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 9:59pm On Feb 14, 2021
dongc:


I can understand oga money doesn't want to sell certain products...but one should maybe educate themselves more about that product and why they exist...0,35 ,0,40 etc...my small kobo kobo house i did two years ago I used 0,40 I bought from Pgn which is a subsidiary of TOWER ..during my IT days we did recommend 0,35, 0,40 and 0,45 roofing sheets for bungalows or duplex up to 25-30 feet...taking considerations with weather and locations..mostly in the east there are not too much adverse weather.you have to advice clients accordingly and guide their decisions properly...

Offcourse with your money you can buy 0,70mm of you want...
Yes Have said it all the guage is too light but some roofing company sell it ooo for me na no go area..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 10:18pm On Feb 14, 2021
adesegun121:

Yes Have said it all the guage is too light but some roofing company sell it ooo for me na no go area..

More learning oga money...the biggest problem is those companies selling it to you...are the guages complete?? Is 0,35 # 0,35 or less or ...too light for you ok...reasons to acquire from known brands with top notch products and quality �

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 10:33pm On Feb 14, 2021
dongc:


More learning oga money...the biggest problem is those companies selling it to you...are the guages complete?? Is 0,35 # 0,35 or less or ...too light for you ok...reasons to acquire from known brands with top notch products and quality �
Yes oo complete ooo for now if SON notice 0.35mm in your Aluminium factory
They will make sure they lock it up ooo becos that guage is too light
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:40pm On Feb 14, 2021
adesegun121:

Yes oo complete ooo for now if SON notice 0.35mm in you factory
They will make sure they lock it up ooo becos that guage is too light

SON and COREN be like twins.

The disparity in thickness and quality of steel/iron rods in the market today is a reflection of how these bodies work.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Omonjoe(m): 10:42pm On Feb 14, 2021
Hello everyone, could someone help me vet this quote for casement window with burglary .
Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by soonest(f): 1:12am On Feb 15, 2021
redgem:
Is there anyone here who supplies filling sand and cement in Benin?

Contact propertyvendor
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 3:26am On Feb 15, 2021
n3xt:


Update: Final pictures from @Cribking1 project site. Job done.

No be pillars be these wey we dey see. Reason why it's good to see the complete pics before we conclude.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:24am On Feb 15, 2021
Omonjoe:
Hello everyone, could someone help me vet this quote for casement window with burglary .
Thanks
people still dey do quotation like this?


Him no fit type it with #50 at a cyber cafe. How can a vendor state terms and conditions with such
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:01am On Feb 15, 2021
folmus:


No be pillars be these wey we dey see. Reason why it's good to see the complete pics before we conclude.

Those pillars look like an after thought.
But building a bungalow of that size on a good soil does not necessarily require pillars.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:47am On Feb 15, 2021
n3xt:


Update: Final pictures from @Cribking1 project site. Job done.

Update:

When asked if he has confirmed the job has been completed, the client (Cribking1) said and I quote “I'm yet to confirm it.”
In his own word, he also said that @mountmoriah said “He was telling me the installers needed to stay for 2 additional nights that I should send 8K for hotel lodge.”

I tried to confirm this from mountmoriah and he told me that was a message sent before they started the installation. I guess the client must have read it at a later time.

I sent the pictures of the building and showing the job done to the client and he said “He never sent me all these.”
I replied The building is yours. You could have just check in to see the job since you’re there in Ibadan.

He promised to visit the site today and we patiently await his feedback.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by keemzy1(m): 9:17am On Feb 15, 2021
Nawa oo, so much i would have loved to say, but...

@N3xt and other peace makers, una well done.

n3xt:


Update:

When asked if he has confirmed the job has been completed, the client (Cribking1) said and I quote “I'm yet to confirm it.”
In his own word, he also said that @mountmoriah said “He was telling me the installers needed to stay for 2 additional nights that I should send 8K for hotel lodge.”

I tried to confirm this from mountmoriah and he told me that was a message sent before they started the installation. I guess the client must have read it at a later time.

I sent the pictures of the building and showing the job done to the client and he said “He never sent me all these.”
I replied The building is yours. You could have just check in to see the job since you’re there in Ibadan.

He promised to visit the site today and we patiently await his feedback.



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:56am On Feb 15, 2021
n3xt:


Update:

When asked if he has confirmed the job has been completed, the client (Cribking1) said and I quote “I'm yet to confirm it.”
In his own word, he also said that @mountmoriah said “He was telling me the installers needed to stay for 2 additional nights that I should send 8K for hotel lodge.”

I tried to confirm this from mountmoriah and he told me that was a message sent before they started the installation. I guess the client must have read it at a later time.

I sent the pictures of the building and showing the job done to the client and he said “He never sent me all these.”
I replied The building is yours. You could have just check in to see the job since you’re there in Ibadan.

He promised to visit the site today and we patiently await his feedback.


Update:

Why has mountmoriah not shown up here to tell us his own side of the story blah blah?

Attached is the screenshot of his nairaland profile. He was banned by a moderator for derailing a thread. undecided

Imagine I didn’t step in to update this platform on the progress made so far...

Values are promoted by what we do, not what we talk about.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 10:19am On Feb 15, 2021
coldcandy:


How can people put expensive roof on top of a building without reinforced columns....

That's a typical DIY budget bungalow.

It's not recommended, but it stands ( correlating with similar structures of over 20 years old)

DIY because the planning and supervision is usually done by either owner or his relatives and or any artisan/ recommended bricklayer and the building plan ( if it exits) is usually not stamped by a structural engineer.

The overriding criterion is cost. The sandcrete blocks are load bearing. As long as the soil/foundation can bear the load, there will not be a problem. If there is any differential settlement, cracks will surely develop on the walls. It is usually hoped that if the cracks show up, the lintel "chain" should mitigate it from widening. They shaa added columns at some corners where the land was "somehow"

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:22am On Feb 15, 2021
n3xt:


Update:

When asked if he has confirmed the job has been completed, the client (Cribking1) said and I quote “I'm yet to confirm it.”
In his own word, he also said that @mountmoriah said “He was telling me the installers needed to stay for 2 additional nights that I should send 8K for hotel lodge.”

I tried to confirm this from mountmoriah and he told me that was a message sent before they started the installation. I guess the client must have read it at a later time.

I sent the pictures of the building and showing the job done to the client and he said “He never sent me all these.”
I replied The building is yours. You could have just check in to see the job since you’re there in Ibadan.

He promised to visit the site today and we patiently await his feedback.






This is one the reasons I said some clients like to play god. It's quite easy to shout someone is fraudulent but now that it's all sorted out he is telling the one assisting in sorting out the issue that he never sent you......



So why in the first instance did you come here to cry fraud.....

All this DC and Marvel studios people inside NL.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 10:36am On Feb 15, 2021
n3xt:


Update:

When asked if he has confirmed the job has been completed, the client (Cribking1) said and I quote “I'm yet to confirm it.”
In his own word, he also said that @mountmoriah said “He was telling me the installers needed to stay for 2 additional nights that I should send 8K for hotel lodge.”

I tried to confirm this from mountmoriah and he told me that was a message sent before they started the installation. I guess the client must have read it at a later time.

I sent the pictures of the building and showing the job done to the client and he said “He never sent me all these.”
I replied The building is yours. You could have just check in to see the job since you’re there in Ibadan.

He promised to visit the site today and we patiently await his feedback.



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