nitrogen:


This is not what I am saying. I dont care about assists and goals from Pogba, I care about effective play. If your team is 'effective', then you wont concede lots of goals and you will score lots of goals without the CM providing assists or scoring goals.

What does effective play mean?

nitrogen:


Well, I am not condemning Bruno, so calm down!

I don't care if he posts 25 goals and 30 assists per season, if the team is going to be effective, then we need to avoid playing Fred and McTom, they are only good for counterattacks. It does not make sense, especially when the two of them are not good going forward (re: passing ability), we need a proper CM to play with Bruno, and based on what we have, Pogba and maybe VDB can fill the slot.

The jabs wasn't aimed at you boss, I agree with everything you said, I don't rate Mcfred although I won't deny Mctominay incredible form it's not just good enough, Fred apart from energy is all the bad words you can think of. Pogba is good enough to play CM role effectively but he needs a good DM and not worry too much about defensive responsibility.

Expert17:


Those teams don't have stupid Martial playing as top 9.

No matter how effective Bruno is, he can't outscore Van Nistelrooy, Harry Kane, Lukaku, Henry, Cole etc.

The question is how many chances have our forwards missed in total compared to other top teams?

nitrogen:


Well, I think that Eph12 is a Fred guy, he knows that if Pogba is available, Fred gets benched, reason for his reaction. Fred is almost useless in a creative midfield as he does not know how to pass and/or shoot. He is only good for defensive styles and at passing sideways/backward.

In all, I blame Amaka. He continues to use McFred because he is clueless!

There's nothing more false than this. It looks like something one would bring from the pit of hell. Fred has same key pass per game as Pogba. Same with through ball. From which person's ass did you bring this lie from?

That's the same way people said Maguire only passes backwards or sideways.

Fred will still play with Pogba in the team. We have seen it many times. When I talk about Pogba, it's not because of Fred. Pogba is not a threat to Fred's position on the team. If you don't know this, you haven't been watching our matches

eph12:

This season KDB has played CM in 9 matches and has 9 assists. Pogba has played CM in all his matches and has 2 assists

KDB CM this season? Really? He's only played the CM role 3 times this season (in the league) in 18 games, and he provided just one assist from that position this season.

Tell me more!

nitrogen:


KDB CM this season? Really? He's only played the CM role 3 times this season (in the league) in 18 games, and he provided just one assist from that position this season.

Tell me more!

This is my source. What's yours?

eph12:

There's nothing more false than this. It looks like something one would bring from the pit of hell. Fred has same key pass per game as Pogba. Same with through ball. From which person's ass did you bring this lie from?

That's the same way people said Maguire only passes backwards or sideways.

Fred will still play with Pogba in the team. We have seen it many times. When I talk about Pogba, it's not because of Fred. Pogba is not a threat to Fred's position on the team. If you don't know this, you haven't been watching our matches

You are right, Pogba has better defensive stats (e.g. tackle success is 62% vs Fred's 56%), more long through balls, while Fred has higher passing accuracy from short passes because he plays it really safe.

Don't even do any comparison abeg! I don't berate players, but Fred is not helping the team at all.

Skimpledawgg:
....and there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth


Cry scummies, cry!

You shall regret this post insha allah

eph12:

This is my source. What's yours?

Lol.

Eph, do you even watch City's games? You want to tell me that KDB plays CM most times, really? Haha

nitrogen:


You are right, Pogba has better defensive stats (e.g. tackle success is 62% vs Fred's 56%), more long through balls, while Fred has higher passing accuracy from short passes because he plays it really safe.

Don't even do any comparison abeg! I don't berate players, but Fred is not helping the team at all.

You spoke about backward and side way passes, that's why I brought those stats. How do you measure these forward passes? Where is your proof? What concerns backward and side way passes with tackles?

nitrogen:


Lol.

Is there a reason you're picking only stats from the EPL? Do you know that Pogba has 15 apps in the CM and no single assists in the EPL?

nitrogen:
Eph, do you even watch City's games? You want to tell me that KDB plays CM most times, really? Haha

What does Gundogan play for City?

eph12:

Is there a reason you're picking only stats from the EPL? Do you know that Pogba has 15 apps in the CM and no single assists in the EPL?

Lol, we have been focusing on the EPL since na, do you want me to bring his UCL stats? KDB is majorly an AM for City. Just accept it and move on!

Again, I already told you that a CM should not be giving you goals and assists. AM can, that's fine! In fact, Pogba has 3 or so mfc nnEPL goals as a CM, but KDB as a CM has scored zero goals, how about that?

eph12:

What does Gundogan play for City?

You know this abeg....I already told you that Pep uses 2 AMs.

eph12:

What does Gundogan play for City?

Gundogan plays CM with license to go forward when City are attacking...

macjireh:

abeg we don't need him in d EPL....we love ole like dat

Abii...OLE is definitely the enemy of your enemy..
I concur

patrickmuf:
Gundogan plays CM with license to go forward when City are attacking...

Because nitrogen sees Gundogan scoring, he thinks he's an AM. Very soon we may begin to hear that he's the striker

eph12:

You spoke about backward and side way passes, that's why I brought those stats. How do you measure these forward passes? Where is your proof? What concerns backward and side way passes with tackles?

Lol, wanted to tell you that even though Fred is preferred for his defensive abilities, Pogba is still his master in that department. Fred that players will be dribbling anyhow.

Fred will have more passes than Pogba because he does short and sideway passes. His accuracy (re: long passes) is lower.

patrickmuf:
Gundogan plays CM with license to go forward when City are attacking...

Nah, I disagree. He plays as a AM for City.

nitrogen:


You know this abeg....I already told you that Pep uses 2 AMs.

Gundogan plays CM abeg na haba

Ole’s nepotism will be his downfall. He didn’t learn his lesson with Lingard.

Obviously Bruno has been the one carrying the team. But you’ve been restricting him from getting into positions you’ve reserved for Martial. Spaces that Martial is too lazy to attack.

No wonder Bruno’s goals have dried up of late. Yet he still finds ways to influence game.

Continue o. FoooLLL

This is how debate should be. You should be able to learn one or two things. You self go dey follow am bumper to bumper. No be when one person go just jump dey curse and abuse him generations past on top wetin no go fetch am anything.

BikeMan:
This is where you illiteracy jumps out. That was a comparison, that was not a statement to equate both terms. Unlike you, I think and I know clean sheets is not equal to number of goals conceded. Chelsea conceded only 15 goals back, does it mean that Cech had only 15 clean sheets back then?

You were comparing the number of goals two defenders in separate leagues have conceded and I told you that you’re simply talking about clean sheets too.

~4 team has at least 9 clean sheets already this season, you and Jodera should help me check if any of them has conceded more goals than Liverpool.

AGAIN, THE MORE YOU CONCEDE THE LESS CLEAN SHEETS YOU HAVE. This is pretty basic!

Ok
Next time I will communicate in okada language, because it seems like is what you understand

eph12:

Because nitrogen sees Gundogan scoring, he thinks he's an AM. Very soon we may begin to hear that he's the striker

Wait, even if I want to agree with you that Gundogan is a CM, who plays AM for City? Dont tell me it's KDB, because you just told us that KDB plays CM for City.

nitrogen:


Lol, we have been focusing on the EPL since na, do you want me to bring his UCL stats? KDB is majorly an AM for City. Just accept it and move on!

Again, I already told you that a CM should not be giving you goals and assists. AM can, that's fine! In fact, Pogba has 3 or so mfc nnEPL goals as a CM, but KDB as a CM has scored zero goals, how about that?

I'm not sure I mentioned just EPL but anyways let's move on since Gundogan has suddenly become AM to you

nitrogen:


Wait, even if I want to agree with you that Gundogan is a CM, who plays AM for City? Dont tell me it's KDB, because you just told us that KDB plays CM for City.

Silva, Gundogan and Rodri on the field. Who's your AM?

eph12:

Silva, Gundogan and Rodri on the field. Who's your AM?

2 AMs.....Rodri is the DM.

eph12:

Is there a reason you're picking only stats from the EPL? Do you know that Pogba has 15 apps in the CM and no single assists in the EPL?

In the UCL, KDB played AM in both games he played for City. FA cup, AM, only Carling cup where he played as a CM twice.

nitrogen:


2 AMs.....Rodri is the DM.

You honestly think Pep will just expose his midfield like that? When has he played 1 DM and 2 AM before? Even when David Silva and Fernadinho was there, Pep didn't play 1 DM and no CM

But City football flow can make one believe there is no keeper sef, just 7 attackers

nitrogen:


In the UCL, KDB played AM in both games he played for City. FA cup, AM, only Carling cup where he played as a CM twice.

Pogba still has no single assist in 15 apps in the league. So much for forward passes