n3xt:


Oh! There’s a tool on https://www.kobocity.com/p/7-calculators to help you with the calculations.

You’ll need about:

- 1500 blocks (assuming the columns/pillars will be reinforced concrete and not block)
- 100 bags of cement (max for both raft and the fence including the column casting)
- 30 tons of granite is a lot though but I don’t know how granite is sold at your end.
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If it’s an inverted t-beam, you’ll spend more.

Thank you so much sir I really appreciate

Focusmind:


Ok, I will be expecting your response as the site is beside Cooperative Villas. The guy that did his in January last year said that he paid 250k to the same contractor to get to the required depth of clean water and the water is good.

from Jan last year till now in nigeria everythuv went up more than 50%. go and check.

michlins:
please sir it's almost an hour that you raised this issue. Kindly state how I offended you and your friend.


This name is too important to me to be associated with controversy

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A few weeks ago when Spyder880 needed some input in a design he is building, I mentioned two gentlemen here he could reach out to for modification. It was an honest assessment of the work they showed here in my opinion.
A project came up and I recommended your name in similar fashion. It seems that you did a good job in your assignment.
Then I got this call yesterday. You gave a quotation for another job(burglar proof). There was a delay and you reminded him that there will be variation in prices due to inflation. He asked you to fix the prices to reflect the changes for immediate mobilization. Along the line you requested and got the number of the man doing the Alumaco fix. You wanted the Alumaco man to alter his measurements and make the windows a little bit smaller so that both of you can make more profit. The Alumaco man vehemently told you off that he doesn't conduct his business that way.
Now...why would you go behind your client to try to alter measurements in a bid to cheat him? He didn't say that you scammed him but your integrity is called to question. I had to wade in to talk to the Alumaco guy and he corroborated the story. I wish I can post the voice recording here.
Meanwhile, I take full responsibility for this as I was the one that talked gleefully about your work as if I know you. But I learned my lesson. Integrity! Integrity!! Integrity!!!
/

saydfact:
Person no fit comot for here for days and not come back to meet one accusation or the other....

meanwhile;
Hi, LAWYER

what's the outcome of the 24 hours notice you once gave... any update

AFTERNOON ALL - HOPE WE ALL DOING GREAT

that one na chest beating mod that can't regulate this section....
no be today we know am

InvertedHammer:

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A few weeks ago when Spyder880 needed some input in a design he is building, I mentioned two gentlemen here he could reach out to for modification. It was an honest assessment of the work they showed here in my opinion.
A project came up and I recommended your name in similar fashion. It seems that you did a good job in your assignment.
Then I got this call yesterday. You gave a quotation for another job(burglar proof). There was a delay and you reminded him that there will be variation in price due to inflation. He asked you to fix the prices to reflect the changes for immediate mobilization. Along the line you requested and got the number of the man doing the Alumaco fix. You wanted the Alumaco man to alter his measurements and make the windows a little bit smaller so that both of you can make more profit. The Alumaco man vehemently told you off that he doesn't conduct his business that way.
Now...why would you go behind your client to try to alter measurements in a bid to cheat him? He didn't say that you scammed him but your integrity is called to question. I had to wade in to talk to the Alumaco guy and he corroborated the story.
I take full responsibility for this as I was the one that talked gleefully about your work as if I know you. But I learned my lesson. Integrity! Integrity!! Integrity!!!
/

I'm sorry I don't understand. Are they both sharing the Alumaco job? By Alumaco, do you mean casement windows kind of job? Is michlins into Alumaco now? I'm trying to understand the motive for connivance.

bixton:



Please can you tell us the outcome of the court case?

The Nigerian Judiciary system is wack. Have you heard of DPA. DPA is at the point of handling a case for some persons who were wrongly accused and imprisoned for about 15 years now because the accuser is a big boy. Men who are currently in their mid 40's are now looking like men who have neared 70 years.

So tell us your exact gross with the man you are accusing and stop beating around the bush.
Reading American history via Google you may see some lies in between the lines.

as a big boy, I can write any petition against my bricklayer that refused to get the job done after sending him 200k. I can petition him for making me lose building of 20m due to erosion cos he couldn't complete the fence in time. Na Nigeria we dey.

Brabus can be cunning, dishonest or cutting corners but if he Is really a THIEF, I believe one of his victims go don make him rot for jail if found GUILTY. That moniker just reincarnate just to bring old boring gist again after making this thread a war Zone in 2015/2016 and na still this brabus issues.

Guys, its becoming boring and tiring. His name is on Google then u guys should leave it there.

InvertedHammer:

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A few weeks ago when Spyder880 needed some input in a design he is building, I mentioned two gentlemen here he could reach out to for modification. It was an honest assessment of the work they showed here in my opinion.
A project came up and I recommended your name in similar fashion. It seems that you did a good job in your assignment.
Then I got this call yesterday. You gave a quotation for another job(burglar proof). There was a delay and you reminded him that there will be variation in prices due to inflation. He asked you to fix the prices to reflect the changes for immediate mobilization. Along the line you requested and got the number of the man doing the Alumaco fix. You wanted the Alumaco man to alter his measurements and make the windows a little bit smaller so that both of you can make more profit. The Alumaco man vehemently told you off that he doesn't conduct his business that way.
Now...why would you go behind your client to try to alter measurements in a bid to cheat him? He didn't say that you scammed him but your integrity is called to question. I had to wade in to talk to the Alumaco guy and he corroborated the story. I wish I can post the voice recording here.
Meanwhile, I take full responsibility for this as I was the one that talked gleefully about your work as if I know you. But I learned my lesson. Integrity! Integrity!! Integrity!!!
/

Thank for putting the above information out here
I had other dude to help me get Alumaco man to fix my roof
The Alumaco said 60k I blew a gasket -60k for what mother fucker?
Nigerian are pure evil including me

Darn! to before warned is to be harmed Abi? Nigerians will always be Nigerians....
Shine ya face..... nevertheless there are still good vendors on here.

diordaves:




I'm sorry I don't understand.--- Are they both sharing the Alumaco job? By Alumaco, do you mean casement windows kind of job? Is michlins into Alumaco now? I'm trying to understand the motive for connivance.

YOUR COMMENT WAS PURE INSULT TO ALL OF US

"I'm sorry I don't understand."-------Really the window size will be smaller-
Windows protector will be smaller--- smaller window more profit

Are we really dumb here that you don't get it

People need to stop trying to protect other smart ass people here

Call us mumu

GoodFaith:


Thank for putting the above information out here
I had other dude to help me get Alumaco man to fix my roof
The Alumaco said 60k I blew a gasket -60k for what mother fucker?
Nigerian are pure evil including me

Sometime ago you came up here to say some persons are one sided and we should be fair.

Have it ever occured to you that you always find ways to use bad language here. It's very easy for you to call someone thief or evil!!!!!

Please how do people who work for you cope with your use of english at them?

GoodFaith:


YOUR COMMENT WAS PURE INSULT TO ALL OF US

"I'm sorry I don't understand."-------Really the window size will be smaller-
Windows protector will be smaller--- smaller window more profit

Are we really dumb here that you don't get it

People need to stop trying to protect other smart ass people here

Call us mumu

Let's hear @Michilins out.

sgtponzihater1:


Thanks I'll message you shortly. I guess it's more of the wood work for the roof that went off. Do you coy have recommended carpenters to sort that or we should sort that first?

Yes

bixton:



Sometime ago you came up here to say some persons are one sided and we should be fair.

Have it ever occured to you that you always find ways to use bad language here. It's very easy for you to call someone thief or evil!!!!!

Please how do people who work for you cope with your use of english at them?

"bad language here" Yes--i used bad language when is called for

You one sided again

I thank him for putting the information out here
I made analysis why any people will ask for something to be reduce

I did not pass a judgement

If you said I passed judgment shown me

What I see is a group of people (contractors coming to defend each other ) sad

I have sent two people to him for work

dude just sold me electrical stuff few days ago from Nairaland -- he said the transaction was stress free
DFameguy have sold me stuff check with him

A guy sold me door for over 600k here
he was playing game for just only 5k or less-- i didn't come here to tell all of us
I just cut him off

GoodFaith:


YOUR COMMENT WAS PURE INSULT TO ALL OF US

"I'm sorry I don't understand."-------Really the window size will be smaller-
Windows protector will be smaller--- smaller window more profit

Are we really dumb here that you don't get it

People need to stop trying to protect other smart ass people here

Call us mumu

Calm down.

The window size has already been built by the bricklayer. You can't reduce this unless you want to start laying blocks as well to reduce the window size. If you reduce your burglary measurements with the intention of defrauding (how?), the final burglary will not fit.

Let's wait for the parties for update.

diordaves:


Calm down.

The window size has already been built by the bricklayer. You can't reduce this unless you want to start laying blocks as well to reduce the window size. If you reduce your burglary measurements with the intention of defrauding (how?), the final burglary will not fit.

Let's wait for the parties for update.

Baba I wanted to say this... wondering how they want to do the reduction without adding block

twinskenny:


Baba I wanted to say this... wondering how they want to do the reduction without adding block

I am not judging but when stuff get to site you will get new story
It has happen to me

diordaves:


Calm down.

The window size has already been built by the bricklayer. You can't reduce this unless you want to start laying blocks as well to reduce the window size. If you reduce your burglary measurements with the intention of defrauding (how?), the final burglary will not fit.

Let's wait for the parties for update.

This had nothing to do with the foregoing though but it's possible to reduce window sizes while construction is still ongoing.

I once did a project and myself and the client couldnt reach conclusion on some changes made along the line in the project. For example, a room was converted into a kitchen. My windows were 1.6m high, so I told him we have to reduce some windows to reflect the new modifications. You cant use 1.6m window in the kitchen. We couldnt agree on toilet window height and sizes so I left the whole space wide.

Unfortunately, the project went on a very long break. The client went ahead to commission one of old paddy to do the window burglary and he did exactly the measurements he got on the project without contacting me. When I supplied the aluminum windows which were made on site, they were done to engineers specification.
This caused a big rift between the aluminum window guy and the welder who claimed the aluminum guy wanted to defraud the client and I asked him "Can a toilet window be this big?"

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In like manner, I once did a project for a client here who wanted 'large windows.' When we got the bill for the windows, N11,000,000:00 for windows alone as at 2015, he requested that we reduce and even block off some of the windows.

diordaves:


Calm down.

The window size has already been built by the bricklayer. You can't reduce this unless you want to start laying blocks as well to reduce the window size. If you reduce your burglary measurements with the intention of defrauding (how?), the final burglary will not fit.

Let's wait for the parties for update.

Respect sir! I salute your objectivity sir.
We wait for the update. This thread is full of very intelligent people.
Hopefully it's a mis communication issue.

n3xt:


This had nothing to do with the foregoing though but it's possible to reduce window sizes while construction is still ongoing.

I once did a project and myself and the client couldnt reach conclusion on some changes made along the line in the project. For example, a room was converted into a kitchen. My windows were 1.6m high, so I told him we have to reduce some windows to reflect the new modifications. You cant use 1.6m window in the kitchen. We couldnt agree on toilet window height and sizes so I left the whole space wide.

Unfortunately, the project went on a very long break. The client went ahead to commission one of old paddy to do the window burglary and he did exactly the measurements he got on the project without contacting me. When I supplied the aluminum windows which were made on site, they were done to engineers specification.
This caused a big rift between the aluminum window guy and the welder who claimed the aluminum guy wanted to defraud the client and I asked him "Can a toilet window be this big?"

______

In like manner, I once did a project for a client here who wanted 'large windows.' When we got the bill for the windows, N11,000,000:00 for windows alone as at 2015, he requested that we reduce and even block off some of the windows.

Thanks for your view

diordaves:


Calm down.

The window size has already been built by the bricklayer. You can't reduce this unless you want to start laying blocks as well to reduce the window size. If you reduce your burglary measurements with the intention of defrauding (how?), the final burglary will not fit.

Let's wait for the parties for update.

Thank you for showing maturity, yes window size can be reduced and shock with blocks. When finished no one can tell, let hear the other side of the story. I understand the frustration from the other gentleman, especially when one expect trust when you recommend someone to people that have faith your words.

n3xt:


I think we are both saying the same thing.

88 x 7 x 2 = 1092 (less blocks for pillars)

44 x 7 x 2 = 480 (less block for pillar and gate opening)

Total = 1500+

Your own formula is just the baba Ijebu way of estimating quantities
Block must not break

I’m not sure if he/she’s using granite for the columns. I’m not the owner of the project.

We of Ijebu origins takes offense to your unprovoked assault on our character. We’re giving you 48 hours notice to tender a complete apology on this forum and same on all national daily publications for three consecutive months.

Failure to abide with this will result in us taking legal steps.



Na joke o

twinskenny:


Baba I wanted to say this... wondering how they want to do the reduction without adding block

in my case the window opening was 3x3, we agreed that they would do 4x4 windows (break a little wall). The window guy tried to deliver 3x3 even though I paid for 4x4. He would have installed it no problem.

EgunMogaji2:
in my case the window opening was 3x3, we agreed that they would do 4x4 windows (break a little wall). The window guy tried to deliver 3x3 even though I paid for 4x4. He would have installed it no problem.

had the same problem five year ago-- unacceptable

EgunMogaji2:


We of Ijebu origins takes offense to your unprovoked assault on our character. We’re giving you 48 hours notice to tender a complete apology on this forum and same on all national daily publications for three consecutive months.

Failure to abide with this will result in us taking legal steps.



Na joke o

#IjebuLivesMatter

InvertedHammer:

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A few weeks ago when Spyder880 needed some input in a design he is building, I mentioned two gentlemen here he could reach out to for modification. It was an honest assessment of the work they showed here in my opinion.
A project came up and I recommended your name in similar fashion. It seems that you did a good job in your assignment.
Then I got this call yesterday. You gave a quotation for another job(burglar proof). There was a delay and you reminded him that there will be variation in prices due to inflation. He asked you to fix the prices to reflect the changes for immediate mobilization. Along the line you requested and got the number of the man doing the Alumaco fix. You wanted the Alumaco man to alter his measurements and make the windows a little bit smaller so that both of you can make more profit. The Alumaco man vehemently told you off that he doesn't conduct his business that way.
Now...why would you go behind your client to try to alter measurements in a bid to cheat him? He didn't say that you scammed him but your integrity is called to question. I had to wade in to talk to the Alumaco guy and he corroborated the story. I wish I can post the voice recording here.
Meanwhile, I take full responsibility for this as I was the one that talked gleefully about your work as if I know you. But I learned my lesson. Integrity! Integrity!! Integrity!!!
/

wow. Seriously is this what you were told. Here's my chat with him attached.

I was the one who asked for the number of the alumaco guy because I needed to get his own measurements to work with bearing in mind that his own measurements was what will be used as final measurements. I told him that as a welder, I can measure a job only for the alumaco guy to adjust it to suit him. Any builder here who has worked with both a welder and alumaco guy will know what am saying that during plastering and hanging, the size of window is adjusted. My measurement was before plastering.
Please even if I have plans to adjust his measurements to make more profits, will I discuss it with the house owner like I did?

Attached are my chats with the person

My explanation with the house owner is this.

When a window is 4 by 4, as a welder I will not do that exact measurements because of dressing and stuff. The alumaco person will not supply 4 by 4 and as such, I need to modify my measurements to align with that of the alumaco person or else my job won't fit

That’s why you should deal on kobocity.

I can tell who is lying on this matter and prove it beyond reasonable doubt - only on kobocity.

I’ve handled a similar case before and I can tell you the rivalry between aluminum guy and welders on this burglary matter no be here.



But the question I will ask is “How much saving will a welder make if he reduced the burglary size from 4x4 to 3x3?

Walahi, he won’t make 2k

But a window man will make more than that on profile, glass, rubber, etc

In peace I rest.

Like I said earlier, should I get a measurement of a job that says 4 by 4, the alumaco guy will be working with something closer to 44 by 44.

So I personally asked him the contact of the alumaco guy to know exactly what measurements he's working with to avoid me supplying something higher than the measurements. Whoever that makes alumaco windows here knows exactly what am talking about and it's a problem we face as a welder.

This same person I did a standing tank for without compromising on standard, how will I start on windows where everyone will see the size and I will want to cheat?

The alumaco guy in question, I will say is just mischievous and probably wanted to get the whole jobs. I called him today and he told me he didn't speak to the house owner except explain to him how I needed his help. And to think he swore with the name of God about speaking I'll about me I wish I recorded the calls.

n3xt:


This had nothing to do with the foregoing though but it's possible to reduce window sizes while construction is still ongoing.

I once did a project and myself and the client couldnt reach conclusion on some changes made along the line in the project. For example, a room was converted into a kitchen. My windows were 1.6m high, so I told him we have to reduce some windows to reflect the new modifications. You cant use 1.6m window in the kitchen. We couldnt agree on toilet window height and sizes so I left the whole space wide.

Unfortunately, the project went on a very long break. The client went ahead to commission one of old paddy to do the window burglary and he did exactly the measurements he got on the project without contacting me. When I supplied the aluminum windows which were made on site, they were done to engineers specification.
This caused a big rift between the aluminum window guy and the welder who claimed the aluminum guy wanted to defraud the client and I asked him "Can a toilet window be this big?"

______

In like manner, I once did a project for a client here who wanted 'large windows.' When we got the bill for the windows, N11,000,000:00 for windows alone as at 2015, he requested that we reduce and even block off some of the windows.

I can only imagine the biggyness of the window.

Side 2

Since the advent of these integrated burglaries, aluminum guys do make more monies and they do all they can to oust a welder from site.

Talking from experience.

bixton:




I can only imagine the biggyness of the window.

For big man house we always use BIG things. Hence the big figures coming from a big upscale window company.

Don’t be surprised I’ve received a quote of N8m for glass. It’s a detached duplex with 5 rooms pere.