Martinez39s:
As I said, I will go back to earlier posts to understand mrcoldsweat better.

No it's not. I gave a summary and interpretation of mrcoldsweat's argument. I didn't say I agreed with it, I didn't say I disagreed with it. My purpose for writing that summary is to for people to understand mrcoldsweat better since his choice of words lacks great precision to many. It's up to anyone to decide if they agree or not.

I gave no advice, neither did I make any suggestions. My entire post is simply a summary and interpretation of what mrcoldsweat is trying to pass across. I am not pushing anyone to accept it. Again, read mrcoldsweat's post and then read my summary to ichidodo, word for word.

Saviolamemphix:
@Mrcoldsweat
U are an intelligent fellow no doubt and i kinda agree with some of ur points though, but instead of coming here to preach equality on a redpill thread y not open another thread for ur equality gibberish..
Truth b told most of ur posts here are misleading.

Peace

Martinez39s:
I am not saying I disagree with mrcoldsweat, and I am not saying I agree with him.

I have read mrcoldsweat's post, the one above yours. What he is trying to say, I think, is that the society's status quo has changed, it's here to stay and it's not going back anytime soon to the traditional way of things no matter how men desire traditional life. On a societal level, things have changed. Therefore, according to mrcoldsweat, men must learn to adapt and flow with the tide and not remain rooted in CERTAIN archaic stereotypes and beliefs about masculinity that are limiting men and serving them no purpose in the modern world. Mrcoldsweat isn't saying in his last post that you should lose your balls as a man and become feminized, all he meant by modifying masculinity is that we put aside our egos and certain useless, archaic, and unproductive stereotypes and beliefs about masculinity and do what we can to make headway in life even if it comes down to doing certain jobs that were traditionally considered feminine like nursing, working in a hair saloon, babysitting in a daycare etc.

He is not saying men must do these jobs, all he is saying is if a man can make profit from these jobs and if he wants to do it, he shouldn't be seen as less a man and his ego shouldn't stop him since we don't consider a woman who becomes an engineer or doctor (former masculine professions) less feminine by society's standards. If women are now given rights and opportunities as men, and they are free to pursue any job or career, it shouldn't be different with men. Hence the ego and mindset that would make a man rather go hungry instead working in a daycare because he think it makes him less masculine should be abolished.

At any rate, mrcoldsweat's argument is reducible to the adage "as hunters learnt to shoot without missing, birds learnt to fly without perching." He is telling us to adapt or lose out. I think that's what he meant by modify masculinity or lose out.

I will still read his earlier posts to undeserved his arguments betters.

GLYCOLYSISS:


Mr Martinez, I think I misjudged his stance on that submission he made about gender equality .
I had to go through his comments again, and I got to admit, he made some nice submission, even though some are questionable.
On the stoicism aspect, we was not even encouraging men to be stoic and all that, he was rather, in the contrary, asking men to drop the "be a man " tag .
At least, that's what I could infer from that comment.
Maybe one have to go through his comments again, he got that undertone to some of his submissions,which I could reason with .
My observation though, others could see things differently,like have contrary view, and that's OK .

TheUndercover:

I'm kinda disappointed you have this mindset. It's fine. Everyone has his life to live.

ichidodo:
Brotherly, You and I know if those jobs were hotcake, men would flood in their thousands, forget archaic stereotypes..But the question is how is all that related to the philosophy of redpill? Because from where I am standing I understand redpill as something that helps us men inspite of ourselves archaic stereotypes or not without any discrimination whatsoever whether alpha,beta or sigma..Everybody will be taken care of...We don't need to tweak anything from our masculine psyche for social trends that easily come and go because soldier come, soldier go barrack remain. As long as we have the redpill , we're all good..Bro, that Mrcoldsweat's posts are neither here nor there...Even Mr Undercover hasn't deciphered his posts enough.

Saviolamemphix:
Lolz giving gift to females ain't bad but just make sure u are not being used or manipulated bro.

sajmark:

we should really learn to control our emotions while reading/replying comments, the bro you quoted told you the bitter truth but you are subtly attacking him.
the lady in question isn't sexually attracted to you, simple... forget whatever she told you, she is ready to be a LovePeddler for the right guy.

ichidodo:
Brotherly, You and I know if those jobs were hotcake, men would flood in their thousands, forget archaic stereotypes..But the question is how is all that related to the philosophy of redpill? Because from where I am standing I understand redpill as something that helps us men inspite of ourselves archaic stereotypes or not without any discrimination whatsoever whether alpha,beta or sigma..Everybody will be taken care of...We don't need to tweak anything from our masculine psyche for social trends that easily come and go because soldier come, soldier go barrack remain. As long as we have the redpill , we're all good..Bro, that Mrcoldsweat's posts are neither here nor there...Even Mr Undercover hasn't deciphered his posts enough...Ma guy dey do masters on top Coldsweat posts..

MrLucifer:
One thing life and the redpill has thought me is that LOGIC will always out perform EMOTIONS in the long run.

Most people don't understand why some guys were vehemently against Mrcoldsweat.
His submission comes from a nihilistic perspective, this is even more dangerous than Modern Feminism.

Nihilists don't believe in correcting a faulty system, to a nihilist, the best way to correct a fault is to let the system degenerate into total chaos and anarchy, from which only the strong will survive..

If Men start behaving like modern women, then the fabric of society will collapse, the strong will prey on the weak, the smart on the stupid, till we find our way to the brink of extinction as a species, then whoever is left will be very wise with experience, thus becoming better.

Those who survive this process will eventually do better than their predecessors, the end game is similar to that of the red pill, which is to make the system better than what we have now.
But the sacrifice is too great, why go to all that extent, when there is a better way, I.e Redpill

I believe in this too, but I won't lie to myself and say it is the best way, or say it is part of the redpill.

Now to my opening paragraph, Logic will always be more reliable when compared with Emotions.

Ask yourself, the decision to "modify masculinity" is it coming from a place of Logic or from a place of Emotion?

Are you deciding to modify your masculinity because it is the right thing to do or because todays women are doing it.
So when tomorrow's women decide gender equality is no longer in vogue and decide to pick up another struggle like "too many Male births" and decide to abort male babies, what do we do then?

Do we modify male babies? Start giving excuses like "there is actually no need for more male babies since one man can impregnate the whole world "

When a foreign intruder invades your lands and is about to plunder your women, children and possessions, do you think mother nature cares about your level of masculinity?
She expects you to pick up your battle axe and face whoever is threatening the propagation of your gene, no negotiation.
Should you fail, it simply means the intruder possesses some traits which make him more likely to survive in the cruel world, so he should have the right to spread his gene, not you who doesn't know how to defend what's his in such a cruel world.

The world is cruel, you don't modify masculinity.

Humans have been here for thousands of years, one thing that has always been constant is masculinity and femininity, they go hand in hand, like Ying and Yang.

From one end of the world to the other, masculine men made that first step by leaving the Cave and exploring the world we know today.
They created the modern Man and world we know today, it is as a result of the sacrifice of masculine men that we have relative peace today, maybe it's because of this relative peace someone can even suggest we modify masculinity.

Is is not the modification of femininity( and masculinity) that is causing most of the societal problems we know today.
Women are tired of being women, and men don't know how to be men.

Would we even have this thread if the original Suffragettes/feminists of the 20th century had not thought to modify femininity?

Now you are suggesting the little masculinity we have left should be modified? Why?
Because women modified femininity?

That simply means, just like women, you are making crucial decisions, decisions that determine the survival of your species based on Emotions and how it makes you feel, instead of being rational and logical.

That is why any rational man should be as angry as Dapcity when he comes in contact with nihilistic ideology, because it is more dangerous than Simpish behaviour or feminist ideology.

I am a Nihilist, I'll like to watch everything burn to the ground, only those who are strong enough deserve to survive, but I won't mix it with Redpill.

Redpill is for the self development of a man which will in turn have a positive effect on his women, children and his surroundings.
It flows downward, not upward or sideways.

TheUndercover:
My suggestion is MrColdsweat should open another thread for this in order to avoid long arguments and getting the thread derailed. Maybe then we can argue and sort things out.

TheUndercover:
My suggestion is MrColdsweat should open another thread for this in order to avoid long arguments and getting the thread derailed. Maybe then we can argue and sort things out.

TheUndercover:
My suggestion is MrColdsweat should open another thread for this in order to avoid long arguments and getting the thread derailed. Maybe then we can argue and sort things out.

MrLucifer:
One thing life and the redpill has thought me is that LOGIC will always out perform EMOTIONS in the long run.

Most people don't understand why some guys were vehemently against Mrcoldsweat.
His submission comes from a nihilistic perspective, this is even more dangerous than Modern Feminism.

Nihilists don't believe in correcting a faulty system, to a nihilist, the best way to correct a fault is to let the system degenerate into total chaos and anarchy, from which only the strong will survive..

If Men start behaving like modern women, then the fabric of society will collapse, the strong will prey on the weak, the smart on the stupid, till we find our way to the brink of extinction as a species, then whoever is left will be very wise with experience, thus becoming better.

Those who survive this process will eventually do better than their predecessors, the end game is similar to that of the red pill, which is to make the system better than what we have now.
But the sacrifice is too great, why go to all that extent, when there is a better way, I.e Redpill

I believe in this too, but I won't lie to myself and say it is the best way, or say it is part of the redpill.

Now to my opening paragraph, Logic will always be more reliable when compared with Emotions.

Ask yourself, the decision to "modify masculinity" is it coming from a place of Logic or from a place of Emotion?

Are you deciding to modify your masculinity because it is the right thing to do or because todays women are doing it.
So when tomorrow's women decide gender equality is no longer in vogue and decide to pick up another struggle like "too many Male births" and decide to abort male babies, what do we do then?

Do we modify male babies? Start giving excuses like "there is actually no need for more male babies since one man can impregnate the whole world "

When a foreign intruder invades your lands and is about to plunder your women, children and possessions, do you think mother nature cares about your level of masculinity?
She expects you to pick up your battle axe and face whoever is threatening the propagation of your gene, no negotiation.
Should you fail, it simply means the intruder possesses some traits which make him more likely to survive in the cruel world, so he should have the right to spread his gene, not you who doesn't know how to defend what's his in such a cruel world.

The world is cruel, you don't modify masculinity.

Humans have been here for thousands of years, one thing that has always been constant is masculinity and femininity, they go hand in hand, like Ying and Yang.

From one end of the world to the other, masculine men made that first step by leaving the Cave and exploring the world we know today.
They created the modern Man and world we know today, it is as a result of the sacrifice of masculine men that we have relative peace today, maybe it's because of this relative peace someone can even suggest we modify masculinity.

Is is not the modification of femininity( and masculinity) that is causing most of the societal problems we know today.
Women are tired of being women, and men don't know how to be men.

Would we even have this thread if the original Suffragettes/feminists of the 20th century had not thought to modify femininity?

Now you are suggesting the little masculinity we have left should be modified? Why?
Because women modified femininity?

That simply means, just like women, you are making crucial decisions, decisions that determine the survival of your species based on Emotions and how it makes you feel, instead of being rational and logical.

That is why any rational man should be as angry as Dapcity when he comes in contact with nihilistic ideology, because it is more dangerous than Simpish behaviour or feminist ideology.

I am a Nihilist, I'll like to watch everything burn to the ground, only those who are strong enough deserve to survive, but I won't mix it with Redpill.

Redpill is for the self development of a man which will in turn have a positive effect on his women, children and his surroundings.
It flows downward, not upward or sideways.

MrColdsweat:


I'm sorry man, I won't do that. I won't leave this thread because some are uncomfortable with my truths. I'll be here because there are some people here who see the problems I highlight in my message. Also, there is no thread with a congregation of men on nairaland like this thread, making the thread the best place to pass my message.

The acclaimed Hypergamous nature of women is a major part of the redpill gospel. My message does not only correlate with it, I proffered a solution to hypergamy.

Men are the enablers of hypergamy because the uncontrollable sexual urge of men is the fuel that drives hypergamy. If men controlled their sexual urges, hypergamy will die slowly. This might look unrealistic, but it is feasible. Collectively instilling self-control as a value in the coming generation will fix this problem, same way instilling respect as a value has made the Japanese and the yorubas respectful people.


There are many problems with the male gender. The stoic nature of masculinity is the number one killer of men. Men are expected to be stoic and bottle their feelings. Because of this, many men are not expressive. They go through life with depression and constant pressure. Many men would rather keep being depressed and die as men, than express their pains and seek therapy to battle their depression. This is bad.


It is better for us, men, to talk about our mental health, than to spend hours talking and strategizing on how to bed women.

After talking about bedding women, has the lifespan and mental health of men improved?


I am here to encourage men to break gender norms so that we can live longer and be happier. Afterall, this is the ultimate goal of the redpill movement: putting happiness first.

We should be deliberating on concepts like freedom, mental health and happiness.


It is better to go through life being happy, than living your life to maintain an oppressive system.


I will not leave this thread.

I declare war on your black pill dangerous ideologies on these redpill community , you won't mislead and destroy my brother's with your fallacious thoughts

MrColdsweat:
Spill your truths. Tell them to increase their sexual market value and give them tips on bedding and commanding respect from men. I won't tell you to stop.

Nobody should stop me from telling men about their miserable, slavish lives.

Dapcity247:
I'm no longer going to drag the argument on these thread any longer , if MrColdsweat wants to explain his view points, he can create a separate thread outside these forum and mention me there , we will engage hopefully in healthy dialogue, I'm also ready to expansiate my own view points

Dapcity247:



I'm sorry Redpillers for failing to keep my promise, but MrColdsweat still insist on spreading mischief and dangerous lies reframed as his own truth

Skepticus,TheUndercover,sozinn,Martinez39s, CaveAdullam,GLYCOLYSISS ,ichidodo,and every other redpill brother here I need your input I don't want to derail these trend but can tolerate misguiding thoughts disguised as truths

temi4fash:

Baba,
I no understand you oo..
Can you break it down a little

Hustle2flex:
Yesterday night I was discussing with three women about gifts to buy for someone for Val.At a point,one of them mentioned phone.i told her straight up that I can't in this life buy any woman phone because one,she won't understand the effort you went through to get the money to buy the phone (that's why all these girls requesting for iPhones don't know how much it costs nor how painful it is to work for months for a price of one phone).
secondly which is most important,that if you get the phone for her,you have lost her to another guy cos she would use the phone to cheat on you.

The eldest of the women replied that what I have said is true.i said in my mind,this sermon has ended.

Riener:
Bad Guy! Bad Guy! Bad Guy!

Good Guy! Good Guy! Good Guy!

" I want to be a Bad Guy"

"I don't want to play the Good Guy to people"

What is" Good"?

What is"Bad"?

In the Old days It was good to Keep Slaves.

What has Changed Now?

Our Beliefs Changed.

So Good or Bad are subjective to how Man wants it.

Don't think you should act as a "Bad Guy", that's You Guilt-tripping yourself over nothing.

Don't let others decide for You what is Good or Bad.

Don't Believe in Labels.

Be a Good Guy.

A Good Guy that believes in his own self interests.

Discard that "Bad" label .

Dapcity247:
QuadrilAyinde, advice MrColdsweat to be reasonable and do the right thing so as not to derail the thread

ichidodo:
Seriously, that guy needs help... Professional help....Blowing the better part of his productive life in Simphood has done his head in especially after haven undergone three devastating heartbreaks...I just dey pity the guy.