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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 9:07pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
Hmm...
Sure it's same clips we watched? grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:14pm On Feb 27, 2021
BARAJ92:
Team strategy and style of play is also a key factor, you don't expect a quality AM in an above average team who is the focal point of the team not to have high chance created than another one in a team that depends solely on team play without any focal point.

In reality, their is always a reason to discard any statistics being use to compare players. Many teams will prefer an attacking player that both score goals and assists.

Bruno is not the focal point of our attack he is just too good that you think so, he was also creating huge number of chances in Portugal NT. For Bruno to be dusting KDB in goal and assist metrics despite playing for a more inferior team should tell you something. There is absolutely no Midfielder's metric KDB is better than Bruno.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 9:18pm On Feb 27, 2021
[quote author=Trevor012 post=99469908][/quote] Hmmm...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:22pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
Hmm...
Sure it's same clips we watched? grin grin

Are you knew to this thread? You're wasting your time with a troll whose identity is dodgy. I advice you ignore him

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:25pm On Feb 27, 2021
BARAJ92:
Really, so sterling, Aguero and Jesus don't miss chance. Clap for your self

Jesus and Aguero barely plays this season. KDB is playing more closer to the opposition box, infact against Chelsea he played as a false 9. Yet he was able to muster just 1 goal from open play all season, thats criminal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 9:25pm On Feb 27, 2021
Now take a look at the difference. Man City fans actually and rightly called out kdb performance today as bad despite getting an assist because he was sloppy with his passes. Bruno performs like this basically every match day then scores a penalty and get an assist from a side way pass and his fans here will be jumping up and down to it despite playing nonsense for the entire match and when you point it out to them they will start calling you hater cheesy cheesy.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:27pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
True, most of his passes are either intercepted or under/over hit today. Today he was unusually poor for his standard. AMs has one of the highest intercepted passes, so anytime I see someone slate Bruno for his passes, I'm surprised. Tho some might be reckless or intercepted, but the reward(s) are normally high

That guy that brought that Bruno's highlights for keypasses finish work. Nobody who will watch that is not supposed to slate Bruno for "blocking" attackers goals
you are correct
The only person not agreeing to this is the mud man
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 9:27pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
Hmmm...
Hmmmm what? Are those united fans Trevor too?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:28pm On Feb 27, 2021
ChristineC:
assists in itself isn't an absolute statistic like goals scored or interceptions made.
chances created should be a better measure for attacking midfielders.
two attacking midfielders with comparable quality will more likely have varying assist output if one is behind Nistelrooy and the other is behind Eder.

God bless you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:29pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
true for what you said

But you watched the compilation twitter clip of Bruno sent here right?
Isn't that what you wanted from Bruno? Is that the kind of passes the ozils and fabregas' are giving too.

In fact, the clip of Bruno and kdb are almost the same in terms of quality chances for teammates, so if you can laud kdb, I expect you to laud Bruno too.

Or is it a case of "a person is regarded everywhere else, except his own house" for you?[b] grin

Dont be deceived the person you are quoting is a chelsea fan that has questionable gender orientation. He/She is merely a troll, dont take it seriously.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 10:38pm On Feb 27, 2021
CapitalCee:


So in other words he has KDB has 19 goal contribution this season with 1 open play goal all season. While Bruno 35 goals contribution. KDB assist most are even a testament of the system he plays in and how good his team mates are.

Stop behaving as if Bruno started dropping his astronomical numbers just this season. Right from his time at sporting his G/A numbers is what KDB wil ever dream of. He immediately came into the league and hit the ground running, no player has contributed more than him in terms of goals contributions since he came.

Since he came to United he has been better than your KDB in terms of Chances Created and Goals/Assists so what do you want him to do? If KDB has Rashford, Martial and James as his forward men his Assist number will clearly diminish, For the past 3 seasons or so that Bruno burst into the scene he has produced better performances than KDB despite playing in more inferior teams.

Let me ask you this question, WHAT METRIC AS A MIDFIELDER IS KDB better than Bruno?

Yes KDB has 19 goal contributions in 26 appearances and Bruno has 35 in 38 appearances. What you wrote before implied that KDB had 14 while Bruno had 34, so I corrected you. I don't do whataboutisms with regards to who plays with better players because we already have a consensus on the better manager. Meanwhile, KDB had 19 assists in one season playing for Wolfsburg so he has done it with "inferior" players as well. City create and miss more chances than United and yes, given the number of appearances made, KDB has created more chances/big chances than Bruno. Bruno is better at scoring goals and he can make very good assists as well playing as an AM and fewer times a right midfielder. However, KDB plays more as a CM and fewer times an AM. He can make plays from deep, left, right, control the pace of a game and has far better vision than any other player not named Messi.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 10:52pm On Feb 27, 2021
ChristineC:
assists in itself isn't an absolute statistic like goals scored or interceptions made.
chances created should be a better measure for attacking midfielders.
two attacking midfielders with comparable quality will more likely have varying assist output if one is behind Nistelrooy and the other is behind Eder.

You are right. Rashford is a significantly better finisher than Gabriel Jesus and Sterling combined.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 10:58pm On Feb 27, 2021
BARAJ92:
Team strategy and style of play is also a key factor, you don't expect a quality AM in an above average team who is the focal point of the team not to have high chance created than another one in a team that depends solely on team play without any focal point.

In reality, their is always a reason to discard any statistics being use to compare players. Many teams will prefer an attacking player that both score goals and assists.

Versatility and intelligence are factors. TAA has more assists than Cancelo in general but Cancelo just does more of everything, better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 12:33am On Feb 28, 2021
Bruno will hibernate again tomorrow, world class midfielders don’t do that. They make their names in big games.

But watch this fraud score a penalty against West Brom and “best midfielder in the world” chants will start again. How can you watch real midfielders that have made this game and call Bruno the best midfielder in the world?

It’s a scummy thing! cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 1:13am On Feb 28, 2021
BikeMan:
Bruno will hibernate again tomorrow, world class midfielders don’t do that. They make their names in big games.

But watch this fraud score a penalty against West Brom and “best midfielder in the world” chants will start again. How can you watch real midfielders that have made this game and call Bruno the best midfielder in the world?

It’s a scummy thing! cheesy

grin

Bikeman indeed.... LMFAO. Hope Night Shift didn't deprive you of Tuchel's Presser? Your new Savior wanted him so badly at PSG, still won't hesitate to have him at Chelsea, yet a Bikeman is trevorising us with Gibberish.

Hope Bike no fall your Head in the Mud?..... LMFAO!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:41am On Feb 28, 2021
Trevor012:

Hmmmm what? Are those united fans Trevor too?
Lol.... I didn't say that grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:42am On Feb 28, 2021
CapitalCee:
you are correct
The only person not agreeing to this is the mud man
cool cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:43am On Feb 28, 2021
KingAlabi my guy!!!
What do you have to say today..

Will there be gnashing of teeth by 7:30pm till dawn? grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:30am On Feb 28, 2021
Jodera:
KingAlabi my guy!!!
What do you have to say today..

Will there be gnashing of teeth by 7:30pm till dawn? grin grin grin

Ogbeni you are facing Leicester first. You should be preparing your own teeth for gnashing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:10am On Feb 28, 2021
SyIvalord:
So after all the hype about Lingard since he went to Westham, I decided to watch him play against city today and I saw the same player we have always known at Manchester United. All running, no sense. Lingard would carry the ball from westham’s half to the city half and proceed to overhit a simple pass. Just goes to show that when you score a goal, people tend to forget all your rubbish play.
If not for Diop, the match should have ended 2 vs 2 with Lingard providing both assist...I am not sure you watched the whole game...

Lingard is trash IMHO but he has been their best player since he joined them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:15am On Feb 28, 2021
CapitalCee:


So in other words he has KDB has 19 goal contribution this season with 1 open play goal all season. While Bruno 35 goals contribution. KDB assist most are even a testament of the system he plays in and how good his team mates are.

Stop behaving as if Bruno started dropping his astronomical numbers just this season. Right from his time at sporting his G/A numbers is what KDB wil ever dream of. He immediately came into the league and hit the ground running, no player has contributed more than him in terms of goals contributions since he came.

Since he came to United he has been better than your KDB in terms of Chances Created and Goals/Assists so what do you want him to do? If KDB has Rashford, Martial and James as his forward men his Assist number will clearly diminish, For the past 3 seasons or so that Bruno burst into the scene he has produced better performances than KDB despite playing in more inferior teams.

Let me ask you this question, WHAT METRIC AS A MIDFIELDER IS KDB better than Bruno?
KDB is better than Bruno...Die this matter.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:20am On Feb 28, 2021
Android17:


Yes KDB has 19 goal contributions in 26 appearances and Bruno has 35 in 38 appearances. What you wrote before implied that KDB had 14 while Bruno had 34, so I corrected you. I don't do whataboutisms with regards to who plays with better players because we already have a consensus on the better manager. Meanwhile, KDB had 19 assists in one season playing for Wolfsburg so he has done it with "inferior" players as well. City create and miss more chances than United and yes, given the number of appearances made, KDB has created more chances/big chances than Bruno. Bruno is better at scoring goals and he can make very good assists as well playing as an AM and fewer times a right midfielder. However, KDB plays more as a CM and fewer times an AM. He can make plays from deep, left, right, control the pace of a game and has far better vision than any other player not named Messi.
Spot one...Any other player not named Messi...

KDB is the midfield version of Messi, he does what you expect of him...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:26am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
KDB is better than Bruno...Die this matter.

By the end of this season Bruno would have won
every personal awards and records KDB has in EPL. (Goals in a season, assists, EPL best etc)

KDB is 4/5 years older, and their style of play is different,
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:38am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
KDB is better than Bruno...Die this matter.

Big fat lie oga Patrick. On what metric particularly? How is KDB better? You guys just make blanket statement without backing it up with any illustrations or stats. Just joining the regurgitations from rival haters and trolls because it looks fanciful.

On what bases, facts, metric, stats or evidence is KDB better than Bruno?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:41am On Feb 28, 2021
Expert17:


By the end of this season Bruno would have won
every personal awards and records KDB has in EPL. (Goals in a season, assists, EPL best etc)

KDB is 4/5 years older, and their style of play is different,


Expert no mind them, they just jump on a fanciful bandwagon of most trolls to make statements without backing it up. Tell us how is KDB better than Bruno, they wont back it up with any valid point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:41am On Feb 28, 2021
CapitalCee:


Big fat lie oga Patrick. On what metric particularly? How is KDB better? You guys just make blanket statement without backing it up with any illustrations or stats. Just joining the regurgitations from rival haters and trolls because it looks fanciful.

On what bases, facts, metric, stats or evidence is KDB better than Bruno?
Stats can be deceiving and you know it but if you want to base your argument on stats, then feel free...We will all be here when the table turns someday...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:43am On Feb 28, 2021
CapitalCee:


Big fat lie oga Patrick. On what metric particularly? How is KDB better? You guys just make blanket statement without backing it up with any illustrations or stats. Just joining the regurgitations from rival haters and trolls because it looks fanciful.

On what bases, facts, metric, stats or evidence is KDB better than Bruno?

How far? Do you still think Gio Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:43am On Feb 28, 2021
Just because Bruno is our player, I wouldn't want to drag this talk further...If we depend on stats alone, Iniesta wouldn't be so highly rated, Zidane too...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:45am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:


How far? Do you still think Gio Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho?
Afrodoc, what's your take on this matter? Bruno vs KDB...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:47am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:


Ogbeni you are facing Leicester first. You should be preparing your own teeth for gnashing.
Oga mi, for league diz season, we no deh shame again grin. We no send dat one.

Win, lose draw... We meuvve grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:52am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
KDB is better than Bruno...Die this matter.
Lol... This wan fit bring another
agenda argument entirely.
But without been sentimental, kdb is better than Bruno, but seeing some people for here who ready to bring out talks to prove otherwise, and I never get time for back and forth, na why I let am slide

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:53am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:


How far? Do you still think Gio Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho?
. grin grin grin

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