CapitalCee:


You are an i.diot, 2014 world cup, they crashed out in quarter finals, Has he won anything of note for Belgium? The answer is no

CapitalCee:


Kdb was Belgium best player during the 2014 World cup. He was unplayable. . KDB was killing it with Bremen and Wolsburg single handedly.

Mr Reyna is better than Sancho

afrodoc2:


This debate will never be solved. In my opinion it is Pele. Messi's failures with the national team not just in terms of trophies but game play means he can't be top dog for me. There was a noticeable drop off between Messi's individual performances for club and country even at his peak. It is sad but true.

P.S I noticed you listed Iniesta but didn't mention CR7. Wattagwan?

I have not forgiven Ronaldo for leaving us for Madrid...At that time, we were doing better than Madrid so I was painful to see him leave...

Also, I have a thing for players who are good in tight spaces...Ronaldo sacrificed his footballing skills for goals...Ronaldo at Sporting and Man Utd was awesome for me...It's the reason I love Messi and Lima Ronaldo, goals plus beautiful football...

Trevor012:




Mr Reyna is better than Sancho

You have a lot of time in your hands to go through someone post history just to find some dirts...

Jodera:
Lol...
Name me 5 Argentine legends aside maradona

Don't switch the discussion. Messi is an Argentine legend for delivering what exactly for Argentina?

CapitalCee:


Lol. Bruno wont score or assist in Pep system? What is your evidence? Gundogan has been scoring for fun recently and bruno will not score ? Nna nawa for una oooo, why do you guys just want to downgrade Bruno at any given opportunity while hyping others even when numbers are danming.

I said he won't score or assist as much...You're deliberately misquoting me...

Jodera:
Lol... This wan fit bring another
agenda argument entirely.
But without been sentimental, kdb is better than Bruno, but seeing some people for here who ready to bring out talks to prove otherwise, and I never get time for back and forth, na why I let am slide

I am not just basing it on stats. Tell me any season where KDB pulled up a majestic performance in the UCL to at least lead City to final or win it. Even in the EPL he has not been the best player in any title winning team. In the national team, apart from in 2014 WC where they where knocked out in the quarters he has consistently gone missing every other tournament with WALEs knocking them out in 2016. This is despite playing in the best teams both at club and NT for tge best part of his career. Nobody is able to dispute these important facts and evidences, but you want to elevate him to a statue he is not up to

patrickmuf:
I said he won't score or assist as much...You're deliberately misquoting me...

On what evidence nwanne. Bruno has been dropping these numbers right from his Sporting days. If Gundogan and Sterling can score why won't Bruno? Somebody that was garnering G/As in droves pkaying with Rashford, Martial , Mctominay and Fred and James will suddenly stop scoring when he plays with Mahrez, Aguero, Sterling, Silva, Gundogan and Foden? Lol. Bruno is not the person that asked KDB to register just 1 open play goal all season

Melvyn11:

Don't switch the discussion. Messi is an Argentine legend for delivering what exactly for Argentina?

You can't be your country's highest goal scorer and multiple balon dor winner without being a legend.

Tell me any player that has such achievements and he isn't tagged a country's legend and I'll rest my case with you.

CapitalCee:


I wasn't calling on Woodward to buy Reyna for 120m Euros.

Neither was i but the cost is even inconsequential. You are missing the point.

What are the signs that Reyna has shown you to confirm that he is HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than Sancho?

CapitalCee:


On what evidence nwanne. Bruno has been dropping these numbers right from his Sporting days. If Gundogan and Sterling can score why won't Bruno? Somebody that was garnering G/As in droves pkaying with Rashford, Martial , Mctominay and Fred and James will suddenly stop scoring when he plays with Mahrez, Aguero, Sterling, Silva, Gundogan and Foden? Lol. Bruno is not the person that asked KDB to register just 1 open play goal all season

We have scored more than City, are our strikers better?

Trevor012:

Capitalcee is a clown. Reyna is better than Sancho . His takes are always stupid.

Jodera:
You can't be your country's highest goal scorer and multiple balon dor winner without being a legend.

Tell me any player that has such achievements and he isn't tagged a country's legend and I'll rest my case with you.

Did he win the Balon dor for Argentines or what am I missing? We are talking about Messi performance for Argentina. What has he delivered for his country Argentina to make him a legend?

afrodoc2:


Neither was i but the cost is even inconsequential. You are missing the point.

What are the signs that Reyna has shown you to confirm that he is HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than Sancho?

By scoring important goals ans assists and causing more troubles for low block oppositions, Unlike Sanchovwho needs acres of soace to operate., same with Werner at Leipzig. Moreover Reyna is just 18 you don't expect him to carry Dortmund.

Melvyn11:

Did he win the Balon dor for Argentines or what am I missing? We are talking about Messi performance for Argentina. What has he delivered for his country Argentina to make him a legend?

the world best and balon Dor covers both club and country or am I missing something here?

CapitalCee:


I am not just basing it on stats. Tell me any season where KDB pulled up a majestic performance in the UCL to at least lead City to final or win it. Even in the EPL he has not been the best player in any title winning team. In the national team, apart from in 2014 WC where they where knocked out in the quarters he has consistently gone missing every other tournament with WALEs knocking them out in 2016. This is despite playing in the best teams both at club and NT for tge best part of his career. Nobody is able to dispute these important facts and evidences, but you want to elevate him to a statue he is not up to

Replace KDB with Bruno...You seem to be judging KDB with higher standard than Bruno.

CapitalCee:


I am not just basing it on stats. Tell me any season where KDB pulled up a majestic performance in the UCL to at least lead City to final or win it. Even in the EPL he has not been the best player in any title winning team. In the national team, apart from in 2014 WC where they where knocked out in the quarters he has consistently gone missing every other tournament with WALEs knocking them out in 2016. This is despite playing in the best teams both at club and NT for tge best part of his career. Nobody is able to dispute these important facts and evidences, but you want to elevate him to a statue he is not up to

Hmmm...
Hopefully, I'll come back to this later.

Not much time on my hands

patrickmuf:
We have scored more than City, are our strikers better?

We have scored more than City because we have the best creator-in-chief in the league, who has scored 22 goals and 13 assists in all competitions, he is overall clearly the best midfielder in league but you guys are doing everything in your power to denigrate him.

The simple reason City are above United is.

City= Pep, Stones, Dias.
United = Ole, Magwaya, Lindelof.

For Bruno to lead this team to score more goals despite deficiencies in his ream is testament of who is better

Expert17:


Will KDB have this same Bruno's effect we are enjoying??

What happen to Bruno stats at Portugal? He started featuring at the Uefa Nations League, and he made the Team of the tournament.

Drop his stat na...

Jodera:
the world best and balon Dor covers both club and country or am I missing something here?

Elaborate how winning the Balon dor for performances with Barca make Messi an Argentine legend despite failing to deliver any single trophy for Argentina?

CapitalCee:


We have scored more than City because we have the best creator-in-chief in the league, who has scored 22 goals and 13 assists in all competitions, he is overall clearly the best midfielder in league but you guys are doing everything in your power to denigrate him.

The simple reason City are above United is.

City= Pep, Stones, Dias.
United = Ole, Magwaya, Lindelof.

For Bruno to lead this team to score more goals despite deficiencies in his ream is testament of who is better

Statistically, we have a better attack and City so if I go by your logic, there's a better chance our strikers are likely to finish off chances compared to City...Let's deal on stats and stats only...

Melvyn11:

Elaborate how winning the Balon dor for performances with Barca make Messi an Argentine legend despite failing to deliver any single trophy for Argentina?

He's the highest goal scorer for Argentina.
Tell me any player that's highest goal scorer for his country and winning world best (at least once) isn't considered a legend?

I deh wait

CapitalCee:


By scoring important goals ans assists and causing more troubles for low block oppositions, Unlike Sanchovwho needs acres of soace to operate., same with Werner at Leipzig. Moreover Reyna is just 18 you don't expect him to carry Dortmund.

How do we quantify "trouble causing for low blocks"? Is it from his 3 goals and 4 assists in the league all season that you concluded he is better?

Mata does not need space to operate, Rashford and Mbappe prefer to have space. Does not mean Mata is better than them. What you just described is a difference in styles not a difference in quality.
I have seen enough goals and assists from Sancho to know that he is not the Dan James you are making him out to be.

It is one thing to say he is not worth 120m (which i agree with by the way). It is another thing to try to buttress your argument by mentioning an untested teenager like Reyna who has been decent but not exactly set the world alight.

patrickmuf:
Replace KDB with Bruno...You seem to be judging KDB with higher standard than Bruno.

What higher standard? I though KDB is the Messi of Midfields and he is the best thing in midfield after sliced bread. If Bruno plays for city, he would win those EPL titles KDB won, Bruno has Won an international trophy with Portugal playing key roles, abd since he joined united he has produced better performances overall than anybody anywhere in the EPL. Bruno is 25, KDB is 29.

Now swap him with midfielders of his age. Kroos, Modric, Muller, even Pogba,.

Kroos has shown his quality on numerous occasions getting involved in key games eg vs Brazil in 2014 WC, winning league titles and UCL with crisp performances. I watched Madrid last league match and Kroos was running the show with Modric, Modric lead an unfancied Croatia to WC final, wining key huge games on his own. These are Midfielders who has time and time again has shown themselves to be dependable on numerous key occasions. Just mention 1 moment KDB has led his team deep into any competition of note. He has never been the best player in the league any title winning team, so why are you hyping him to high heavens?

I dont want to talk of Muller, or older heads like iniesta, Schweisteiger etc. If you want to hype KDB give me his credentials, he is 29 for Gods sake

Jodera:
He's the highest goal scorer for Argentina.
Tell me any player that's highest goal scorer for his country and winning world best (at least once) isn't considered a legend?

I deh wait

Aguero has more international goals than Maradonna. One is an Argentine greatest legend while the other is an Argentine flop so your highest goal scorer yarns won't fly here. What has Messi delivered for Argentina to be considered an Argentine legend

Melvyn11:

Aguero has more international goals than Maradonna. One is an Argentine greatest legend while the other is an Argentine flop so your highest goal scorer yarns won't fly here. What has Messi delivered for Argentina to be considered an Argentine legend

Some people just love Messi too much.

The Argentines don't consider him their legend.


Time and time again, he has broken their heart when it matters most.

Sadly, this is the truth.

afrodoc2:


How do we quantify "trouble causing for low blocks"? Is it from his 3 goals and 4 assists in the league all season that you concluded he is better?

Mata does not need space to operate, Rashford and Mbappe prefer to have space. Does not mean Mata is better than them. What you just described is a difference in styles not a difference in quality.
I have seen enough goals and assists from Sancho to know that he is not the Dan James you are making him out to be.

It is one thing to say he is not worth 120m (which i agree with by the way). It is another thing to try to buttress your argument by mentioning an untested teenager like Reyna who has been decent but not exactly set the world alight.

James is no where near the quality of Sancho, they are class apart, despite their game looking similar. However, i was looking at ut from the angle of a player that will benefit us.
In another note, Mbappe and Rashford likes space, but they can destroy low block teams in the tightest of spaces. The last goal Rashford scored is a typical example, Mbappe's first goal versus Barca and his goal versus Argentina were few goals i can remember from the top of my head where he utilised tight low block spaces to break teams. Sancho doesn't score those to be frank.

CapitalCee:


What higher standard? I though KDB is the Messi of Midfields and he is the best thing in midfield after sliced bread. If Bruno plays for city, he would win those EPL titles KDB won, Bruno has Won an international trophy with Portugal playing key roles, abd since he joined united he has produced better performances overall than anybody anywhere in the EPL. Bruno is 25, KDB is 29.

Now swap him with midfielders of his age. Kroos, Modric, Muller, even Pogba,.

Kroos has shown his quality on numerous occasions getting involved in key games eg vs Brazil in 2014 WC, winning league titles and UCL with crisp performances. I watched Madrid last league match and Kroos was running the show with Modric, Modric lead an unfancied Croatia to WC final, wining key huge games on his own.
These are Midfielders who has time and time again has shown themselves to be dependable on numerous key occasions. Just mention 1 moment KDB has led his team deep into any competition of note. He has never been the best player in the league any title winning team, so why are you hyping him to high heavens?

I dont want to talk of Muller, or older heads like iniesta, Schweisteiger etc. If you want to hype KDB give me his credentials, he is 29 for Gods sake

I repeat this guy is a cerififed clown
Seun ban this guy na

CapitalCee:


Kroos is a player I like very well, I followed him right from when he represented Germany in U 17 World Cup, but yes he was lucky to be among that all conquering team. I have not seen, may be their might be, I don't know, a match which Kroos dictated generally on his own and won it single handedly like the Zidanes, Roy Keanes, Xavis, Nedveds, Pirlos, Vieras and some others I may not remember. I am not downplaying his abilities mind you, but he can't measure up to the above mentioned midfielders in their prime. At least I have instances where they have on their own dragged their teams over the line at top level, but can't remember any for Kroos(although he might have, but I have not seen or remembered)

patrickmuf:
Statistically, we have a better attack and City so if I go by your logic, there's a better chance our strikers are likely to finish off chances compared to City...Let's deal on stats and stats only...

No it means we create more chances and quality ones for that matter, despite how Wasteful our strikers are. This is hugely due to Bruno. This is clear cut Bruno is creating more chances, and he even scores himself, KDB meanwhile has 1 open play goal all season, thats criminal

Trevor012:

I repeat this guy is a cerififed clown
Seun ban this guy na

This guy is a dunce. Kroos is not in the class of Zidane, Roy Keane, Xavi, etc. So what is new there? I said i can't remember but i have remembered now. You must be a low mentality person i swear

Griffon described capitalcee perfectly

Griffon:


You argue with so much hate and with no facts.

You are like the pharisees who would kiss the devil just to make Jesus look silly. Same group of ediots who let a criminal free just to see Jesus get crucified.

If Pogba finds himself in Madrid, he can never replicate Kroos' output. His showboating won't allow him.

Nobody has given me the credentials of the "Messi of Midfields" oooo. I am waiting

patrickmuf:
You are only saying this because away from scoring and assisting, Pep's system demands more from KDB...If KDB and Bruno swapped teams, I am certain Bruno won't score or assist more...

For emphasis, check Bruno stats when he plays for Portugal...

What's that more that Pep system demands from KDB?